CP Addition: Margaret, wife of (1) Sir John Deiville and (2) Adam de Everingham
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
The account in Complete Peerage for Sir John Deiville [or d'Eiville] of
Egmanton, co. Notts. and Adlingfleet, co. Yorks. (d. 1325/26) says only the
following concerning his second wife (notes from CP included in cite):
' He m., 2ndly, Margaret. (c) He d. (1325-6) 19 Edw. II.(d)
His widow m., before Michaelmas 1326,(e) as 2nd wife, Sir Adam
de Everingham, of Laxton, Notts. [Lord Everingham], who d.
shortly before 8 May 1341.(f) '
Notes: ' (c) By a fine, levied in the quinzaine of St. John the
Baptist 17 Edw. II, John Deyville conveyed the manor
of Egmanton - except a mill, &c. - to himself,
Margaret his wife, and Joan their da., and the heirs
of the same Margaret. (Feet of Fines, case 184, file
24, no. 225).
(d) Petition, in Parl. Rolls, vol. ii, p. 389.
(e) De Banco, Mich., 20 Edw. II, m. 403
(f) Ch. Inq. p.m. (on Adam de Everyngham of Laxton),
Edw. III, file 65, no. 8. See EVERINGHAM. ' [1]
There is nothing added under the account of the Lords Everingham as to
the origins of Margaret [2]. However, evidence has been found in documents
transcribed on the PRO website which, together with information provided in
CP and other sources, has made it possible to propose a solution to this
problem.
1. Based solely on the information provided in CP, we know that
Joan Deiville, only known child of Sir John Deiville and Margaret,
was born before 9 July 1324: the fine noted in CP IV:133, note (c)
involving Egmanton, co. Notts. (which included Joan in the
conveyance) was levied in the quinzaine of St. John the Baptist
17 Edw. II - that is, between 24 June 1324 and 9 July 1324.
We can surmise reasonably that, given a near-normal pregnancy
and observance of the social niceties prior to the wedding, Sir
John and Margaret were married no later than say October 1323,
and likely somewhat before.
2. As previously posted to SGM, documents from the East Riding of
Yorkshire Archives and Records Service indicate that Sir John
Deiville had an interest in certain lands in Cundall, co. Yorks.:
In particular, of the three extracts given below, the first has
Sir John convey his lands in Cundall to Alexander de Ledes and
his wife Elizabeth on 14 October 1321; following which, the same
Alexander de Ledes and his wife demised the same lands [with
virtually the exact same witnesses as the earlier gift] some
5 months later, on 12 March 1321/22, to John Deiville "for his
wife" [3]. This pair of transactions is what we would
expect to see in the conveyance of lands for the dower of a
new wife. This could not have been his first wife Agnes: their
son Robert Deiville was born some time before 1310 [4].
Based upon the foregoing, we can place the marriage of Sir John Deiville
and his second wife Margaret as occurring probably after 14 October 1321, and
no later than 12 March 1321/22. This would extend the 'range' of a probable
birth date for Joan Deiville, to (A) no earlier than say July 1322, and (B)
most likely between December 1322 and July 1324.
3. As important, if not more so, as establishing the chronology set
forth above, the terms of the conveyance of the land of Cundall
in March 1321/22 by Alexander de Ledes and his wife Elizabeth to
John Deiville and his wife Margaret placed the Deivilles in the
position of tenants, with Margaret retaining dower in the property:
A. The demise to Sir John and his wife was of "all their town
of Cundale near Thorneton super Swale RENDERING 1d YEARLY"
{see text below, note [3. C.]}.
B. Following the death of Sir John Deiville, and Margaret's
remarriage to Sir Adam de Everingham [before 29 September
1326 - see CP IV:133, note (e)], we find that Sir Adam and
Margaret retained the remainder of the third part of
Cundall, as evidenced in a concord (sometime between 1326
and 1341) between Alexander de Ledes [son of the elder
Alexander] and his wife Margaret, as plaintiffs, and a
deforciant [5].
It is evident from the gift and subsequent demise of the land of Cundall,
back to Sir John Deiville ' for his wife ', and the holding of a third part
of Cundall by Margaret (and her new husband Adam de Everingham) of the
younger Alexander de Ledes in dower, that there is a familial connection
between Margaret and Alexander de Ledes. In an earlier post on the subject
[6], the uncertainty as to the chronology, especially as relates to the de
Ledes family, led me to surmise a possible Darell connection for Margaret.
However, after reviewing the account of Sir Alexander de Ledes in "Knights
of Edward I" [7], it is now apparent that the wife of (1) Sir John Deiville
and (2) Sir Adam de Everingham was Margaret de Ledes, daughter of Sir
Alexander de Ledes, probably by his wife Elizabeth (reportedly Elizabeth
Darell, daughter of Marmaduke Darell of Sessay and sister of Sir William
Darell of Sessay [8]).
In addition to the foregoing evidence and supportive chronology, there
is additional onomastic evidence. Sir Adam de Everingham evidently had
several sons by his 2nd wife Margaret de Ledes, as indicated by several fines
involving lands in Fairburn and Sherburn, co. Yorks. (possibly of the
maritagium of Margaret, although it appears that the Birkin inheritance of
the Everingham family also included lands in both Fairburn and Sherburn).
Among the names given for those sons, we find (1) Robert, evidently named
for Sir Adam's father Robert de Everingham, and (2) Alexander de Everingham,
evidently named for his maternal grandfather Sir Alexander de Ledes [9].
Robert de Leeds Marmaduke Darell of Sessay
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Sir Alexander de Ledes = Elizabeth [Darell ?]
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fl. ca. 1250/60 - 1325/30 I
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Alexander = Margaret 1) John = Margaret = 2) Adam de = Clarice
de Ledes I d'Eyvill I [de Ledes] I Everingham I [La WARRE]
fl. ca. I d. 1325/26 I b.ca. 1295- I fl. 1279- I d. aft
1290/95 I I 1305 I 1341 I 1321
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Joan d'Eyvill = Sir Adam de Everingham
fl. ca. 1323-1378 I fl. ca. 1307 - 1387/88
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* The additional ancestry provided by this identification affects a wide
ranging number of descendants, including several list members (between Great
Britain and New Zealand a pretty wide geographic range), many 17th century
colonial emigrants, not to mention the late Queen Mother, the late Princess
of Wales, and not least of all Alfred, Lord Tennyson.
I will post additional PRO documentation concerning Sir Alexander de
Ledes and his family shortly. Anyone having additional relevant
documentation, comment or criticism is certainly encouraged to chime in.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES
[1] CP IV:133 and notes (c)-(f), sub _Deiville_ .
[2] CP V:188, sub _Everingham_ .
[3] PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]:
A. Reference: DDCC/130/5
Letter of Attorney
Creation dates: 28 Sep 1321
John son of Sir John de Eynill of Egmanton to William le Warener of Cundale,
property: to deliver seisin to Alexander of Ledes and wife Elizabeth of a
place of land and wood called Lytelapelgath and of 2 ac. adjacent land to
the N. in Cundale, with power to enclose Given at Thorneton super Swale.
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B. Reference: DDCC/130/6
Gift
Creation dates: 14 Oct 1321
John son of Sir John de Eynill lord of Egmanton to Alexander de Ledes and wife
Elizabeth, property: all his town of Cundale near Thornton super Swale and
all appurtenances in demesne as far as the boundary between Cundale and
Thornton called Heggebeck Witn. Sir John Marmion, Sir John de Walkyngham, Sir
Robert Coyners, Sir Robert de Plompton, Sir Richard de Bernyngham, Sir Robert
de Waddeslay, Sir William Darell, William de Eskelby, William de Cundale,
Warner, John de Wynnemer, John de Mauneby, Robert le Fissher. Given at
Cundale, Seal, armorial on a fess between 4 fleurs-de-lys, 2 fleurs-de-lys.
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C. Reference: DDCC/130/7
Demise
Creation dates: 12 Mar. 1321/2
Alexander de Ledes and wife Elizabeth to Sir John de Eynill, lord of Egmanton,
for his wife, property: all their town of Cundale near Thorneton super Swale
Rendering 1d yearly. Given at Cundale Witn. Sir John Marmyun, Sir John de
Walkyngham, Sir Robert Coyners, Sir Robert de Plumton, Sir Richard de
Bernyngham, Sir Robert de Waddeslay, William de Eskelby, William de Cundale
Warener, John de Wymmer, John de Manneby, Robert le Fissher. Seal, armorial,
on a fess between four fleurs-de-lys, two fleurs-de-lys.
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[4] Robert Deiville had respite of knighthood from 23 September 1324
until Christmas 1325 - he likely was born before 1308, assuming he
must have been 16 years of age or more if he was given respite at
that date. Further, his marriage to Margaret de Holebeche is noted
as occurring before May 1321. [CP IV:133 and notes (g)-(i)]
[5] PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]:
D. Reference: DDCC/130/3
Final Concord
Creation dates: Easter (1311?) [sic] **Erroneous Date**
Alexander de Ledes and wife Margaret (by their attorney Peter de Richemond)
plaintiffs, and Boniface de Ledes deforceant, property: manors of Thorneton
super Swale, Cundale, Kyrkeby super Moram, Ledes and Gypton, with 5
messuages, 6 bovates and 7 ac. land and 60 ac. wood in Mideby and Letteby A.
and M. to have manors of Ledes, Gipton and Kyrkeby, and two parts of the
manors of Thornton and Cundale and their appurtenances (except 6 messuages,
7 tofts, 23 bovates and 32 land and 29 ac. meadow in the manors of Kyrkeby
and the two parts of the manors of Thornton and Cundale); and they shall
also have the remainders of the third part of the manors of Thornton and
Cundale, and of specified property in those manors and in Kyrkeby on deaths
of tenants (Adam de Everingham and wife Margaret, Robert de Stokesle and
wife Adeline, Thomas de Fencotes, Thomas de Vallibus chaplain, Nicholas de
Hewyk, Geoffrey de Lutterworth and wife Beatrix, William de Popelton, Robert
de Ellerton, John son of Alan de Brafeford, William de Herneby and wife
Mariot).
** The date assigned in the transcript, noted as being uncertain, is
clearly in error (Sir Adam de Everingham and Margaret not having
married earlier than 1326). See the following letter of attorney
(E) involving the younger Alexander de Ledes, dated in 1342:
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E. Reference: RCHY 3/2/17
Creation dates: 1342/3 8 Feb
Language: Latin
(1) William Darel of ?Seisray [?Sessay], knight
(2) Master ---- of Toppecliff, chaplain
(3) Alexander de ?Lede and Margaret his wife
Letter of attorney from (1) to (2) to deliver seisin to (3) of lands in the
town and territory of Cundale [Cundall] which (3) gave to (1). Given at
Seisray on Saturday after the Purification of the B.V.M.
Seal missing; fragile
[6] John P. Ravilious, <Re: Possible Identification of Margaret, wife of
John D'Eiville ( & c.)>, SGM, 18 August 2004.
[7] From "Knights of Edward I" II:26 [Vol. 81 of the HSP series]:
" LEDES, Sr Alexander de, Kt. Coroner in Yorks. 14 SEp. 1288 (C.R.).
Sr Alex. de L., Kt., witnesses charter of Isabella C'ss of Aumale
and Devon, 1 Dec. 1291 (P.R.). Sum'd to serve agst. Scots 1 Mar
1296 (P.W.). Protection, staying in Scotland for K. 5 Oct. 1296,
and again, going to Court of Rome for K. with Henry, E. of Lincoln,
16 Oct. 1300, and in 1303 and 1305 (P.R.). Order to elect Coroner
for Yorks. vice him, who is Sheriff of Dumbarton, and cannot attend
to the office, 26 June 1297 (C.R.). Pardon of homicide for his
services in Scotland 15 June 1302. Accused with his bro. John of
assault and robbery at Boulton, Yorks., 6 Oct. 1310, and with his
bro. Roger at Kyrkeby on the moor, Yorks., 20 June 1311 (P.R.).
A lord of Kirkby, Langthorn, and Bolton, Yorks., 5 Mar. 1316 (P.W.).
He seeks to replevy his lands at Bolton by Wath, taken for default,
21 Sep. 1321 (C.R.). Lic. to alienate lands at Allerton Gledhow,
Yorks., to Kirkstall Abbey, 12 Aug. 1325 (P.R.). "
[8] The IGI record of Elizabeth Darell, wife of Alexander de 'Ledis',
indicates that she was born ca. 1298, and was the daughter of Sir
William Darell and Joan de Holtby. This placement is clearly in
error due to faulty chronology, with Elizabeth being paired with
the younger Alexander de Ledes, her (presumably non-Oedipal) son.
[9] CP V:188, notes.
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
Following are the extracts from the PRO having to do with Sir Alexander
de Ledes, his brother Roger, his son Alexander, and others surnamed de Ledes
who remain to be placed.
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
John
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PRO, Lancashire Record Office: Hornby Catholic Mission Papers (St Mary's
Church)Yorkshire: Cundall
Yorkshire: Gipton
Administrative History
These four items relate to Kirkstall Abbey
Reference: RCHY 3/2/19
Creation dates: n.d. [c.1250]
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
(1) Thomas son of Adam de Loftehusis [Lofthouse, co. Yorks.]
(2) Alexander son of Robert de Ledos [Leeds]
Gift of ź toft and croft and źa. land in the territory of Gipton which (1) has
by inheritance from his wife Alice. Warranty clause.
Witnesses: William Scot of Neuton, William de Alverton, William de Grimeston,
John de Gipton, Baldwin de Kaldecotes [Coldcotes], Adam the clerk of Gipton,
William Belle, Ranulph de Neuton, Robert the chaplain and Nicholas the clerk
Rent: 1˝d. per annum to the abbot of Kyrkestal, and źd. per annum to Richard
de Gipton
Seal missing; tag; part of text cut out
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PRO, Lancashire Record Office: Hornby Catholic Mission Papers (St Mary's
Church)Yorkshire: Cundall
Reference: RCHY 3/2/20
Creation dates: n.d. [c.1250]
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
(1) Amabel de Wodehusum [Woodhouse] daughter of Henry de ?Mechelay
(2) Alexander son of Robert de Ledes
Gift of ź toft and croft and źa. land in the territory of Gipton which (1) has
by inheritance from his father ?. Warranty clause.
Witnesses: William Scot of Neuton, William de Alverton, William de Grimeston,
John de Gipton, Baldwin de Kaldecotes [Coldcotes], Adam the clerk of Gipton,
William Belle, Ranulph de Neuton, Robert the chaplain and Nicholas the clerk
except Robert the chaplain
Rent: 1˝d. per annum to the abbot of Kyrkestal, and źd. per annum to Richard
de Gipton
Seal
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PRO, Lancashire Record Office: Hornby Catholic Mission Papers (St Mary's
Church)Yorkshire: Cundall
Reference: RCHY 3/2/21
Creation dates: n.d. [c.1250]
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
(1) Master Simon of Prestun, co. Yorks. and Methelay [Methley]
(2) Alexander son of Robert de Leds
Gift of ź toft and croft and źa. land in the territory of Gipton (the land
lying next to 'Scle') which (1) bought from Robert de ?Wambebel [?Wombwell],
the husband of Elizabeth, daughter of Henry the clerk of Metelay. Warranty
clause. Witnesses: William Scot of Neuton, William de Halverton, John son of
William de Parlington, William son of Alan de Grimestun, John de Grimestun,
John de Gipton, Constantine ?son of Robert, and Robert de ?Alterripa
Rent: as in RCHY 3/2/19
Seal
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PRO, Lancashire Record Office: Hornby Catholic Mission Papers (St Mary's
Church)Yorkshire: Cundall
Reference: RCHY 3/2/22
Creation dates: n.d. [c.1250]
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
(1) Peter Coleman of Mechel' [?Methley]
(2) Alexander son of Robert de Ledis
Gift of ź toft and croft and źa. land in the territory of Gipton which (1) has
by inheritance from his wife Cecilia. Warranty clause.
Witnesses: as in RCHY 3/2/19, except Robert the chaplain and Nicholas the
clerk, but including William the clerk
Rent: as in RCHY 3/2/19
Seal missing; tag
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Bradford: Spencer-Stanhope Manuscripts
[SpSt/1 - SpSt/4]
Reference: SpSt/4/11/66/11
Feoffment
Creation dates: c.1230-1260
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
Between Brother Maurice, Abbot of Kirkstall and the Convent, of the one part,
and William son of William Fabri of Horsford, of the other part; of ˝ an acre
of land for his homage and service in Horisford, that is, the ˝ acre called
Lecrochedecroft, with toft and croft lying between the toft once of William
Faber on the west, and the toft once of Warin on the east, at a rent of ˝ a
dicker of horse shoes
Witnesses: Hugh de Horisford, Richard the clerk of Led, Alexander de Led,
Thomas Hed, William Scotus de Neuton, Willian de Alreton, Henry Scottus de
Pudethesaie, Richard de Haia, Henry de Stulb, and others
Seal: green wax, vesica shaped, on tag; a standing figure holding in his left
hand a book
Legend: ----M. ABBATIS DE ----. Damaged
Endorsed: Lecrokedecroft
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Bradford: Spencer-Stanhope Manuscripts
[SpSt/1 - SpSt/4]
Reference: SpSt/4/11/66/12
Copy of 13th Century Feoffment
Creation dates: 17th Cent
Scope and Content
Between Nigel de Horsford, of the one part, and the Monks of Kirkstall, of the
other part; of a barn in Horsford which Robert son of Stamolt holds, to hold
in pure alms
Witnesses: Hugh de Lelei, Roger Scot, Hugh son of Jordan de Denby, Michael of
Leydon, Henry of Waldes, Adam of Cukeridge, and many more
on reverse - A general Release from John Kent of Pannal, husbandman, and Anne
his wife, in consideration of Ł10, to Henry Martin, Thomas Mashe, of all due
from George Fosstr of Cookeridge, to be paid by Anne his wife
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Bradford: Spencer-Stanhope Manuscripts
[SpSt/1 - SpSt/4]
Reference: SpSt/4/11/66/23
Feoffment
Creation dates: 13th Century
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
Between Robert son of William Brito de Pouill, of the one part, and the Monks
of Kirkstall, of the other part; of ˝ an acre of land in Horseford called the
Croketcroft, with toft and croft lying between the toft once of William Faber
to the west, and the toft once of Warin to the east
Witnesses: Sir Nicholas Ward, William his nephew, William Scoticus of
Calverley, Alexander de Ledes, Richard the clerk of Ledes, Richard de la
Haye, Thomas Hedon, William Scoticus of Neuton, William de Alreton, Hugh de
Horseford, and many others
Seal: green wax, vesica shaped, on tag; a fleur-de-lys
Legend: SIGILL ROBERTI DE POVEL
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Bradford: Spencer-Stanhope Manuscripts
[SpSt/1 - SpSt/4]
Reference: SpSt/4/11/66/27b
Grant in Frankalmoign
Creation dates: 13th Century
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
Between Robert son of William de Breton of Pouill, of the one part, and the
Monks of Kirkstall, of the other part; of ˝ an acre of land in Horsfort
called Croketcroft, with toft and croft lying between a toft of Thomas Faber,
and a toft of Warin.
Witnesses: Sir Nicholas Ward, William Ward, Alexander de Ledis, Richard de
Ledis, William Scoto, William de Alton. Robert de Wudehuses, and others.
Seal: green wax, vesica shaped, on tag; a fleur-de-lys.
Legend: +S ---- ROB----- POV---.
Endorsed: Croketcroftes.
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PRO, Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office: Peake MSS
Reference: DE220/12
Creation dates: N.D. (13th cent.)
Physical characteristics: Seal on tag, oval, natural wax, device,
"NICHOLA- ---DEOLER"
Scope and Content
Grant: Nich., son of Adam son of Thos. de Gypton, to Thos. his son: for his
service and a sum of money, all the land which grantor had in Gypton by
inheritance after the death of Matilda his sister, to wit, 2 acres of land
with toft, building and garden which he held by gift of the Hospital of St.
John of Neuland, one bovate of land which he held of Roger Pogge & Margaret
his wife, ˝ bovate of land which he held of Alex. de Ledys, and a fourth part
of a bovate of land lying in divers coulters there: to hold for ever, paying
annually to the brothers of the Hospital of St. John of Neuland 8 pence at
Easter and Michaelmas by.equal portions, to the heirs of Roger Pogge and
Margaret his wife 4 pence at Pentecost and Martinmas by equal portions, and
to Alex de Ledys 4 pence at the same terms, for all secular services:
warranty and sealing clauses: witn: Sir Alex de Ledys, knt.; Thos. de
Caldecotes; Wm. de Allirton; Thos. son of Wm. de Gypton; Robt. son of Robt.
of the same; Alex. de Caldecotes.
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PRO, Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office: Peake MSS
Reference: DE220/27
Creation dates: N.D. (13th cent.)
Physical characteristics: Tag for seal, fragment of white wax
Scope and Content
Grant: John de Gypthona to Richd. de Stokethon in Cliveland, residing in
Allirthona: one acre of land in GYPTHONA, lying between the land of Alex. de
Ledes on both sides & abuts, one end on Allirthon and the other on the way to
Hallestedes: to hold freely for ever with free ingress and egress and with
all liberties and easements appertaining to the land, paying annual rent of
one rose at feast of SS. Peter and Paul for all service: warranty and sealing
clauses: witn: Alex. de Ledes; Wm. Scott; Wm. de Allirton Wm. de Cimiter; Wm.
de Grimston; Thos. de Caldekotes.
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PRO, Warwickshire County Record Office: Waller of Woodcote
Reference: CR 26/1/12/L/27
Indented deed of settlement made between Humphrey de Bassingburn
[?Bassingbourn, Cambs.] and Mary his wife, and John of Thorneton [Thornton]
and Mathilda his wife concerning property in the manors of Ellerton and
Thorneton Steward.; Witnesses: Geoffrey de Hewik' [?Copt or Bridge Hewick in
West Riding nr. Ripon] Thomas de Burton [Burton], Alexander de Ledes [Leeds],
knights, William de Stodlay [Studley Roger or Royal nr. Ripon], Simon de
Munketon [Bishop Monkton nr. Ripon], Roger de Thorneton [Thornton], Thomas
de Thorneton, Henry de Bassingburne, clerk, Henry de Midelton [Middleton],
Henry de Ripon, William de Burgus [?Brough], Michael de Laton, Adam de
Richmond, clerk.
Creation dates: Dated at York, Wednesday next after the Translation of St.
Thomas the Martyr, 7 Edward I [12 July, 1279]
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Leeds: Weston Hall Records
Reference: WYL639/158
Gift
Creation dates: n.d. (c.1290)
Scope and Content
By Elyas called Freeman to Master Adam le Fraunceys of a ploughland at
Neutonwath in the fields of Ryppeley next to the land of the church of the
same on the north (aquilonem) containing 2˝ acres with meadow adjoyning, to
hold of the chief lord paying 2d at Christmas and 4 pipes of wine at St. John
Baptist.
Witnesses: Sir Peter Bekard, Sir Thomas de Burton, knights; William de
Ryppeley, John de Brereton, Nicholas de Vall', Robert de Steynley, Thomas
Turpyn, Robert del Led'.
Seal on tag, white wax, no impression.
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Leeds: Weston Hall Records
Reference: WYL639/159
Lease indented
Creation dates: 4 Jun 1304
Scope and Content
By Ralph de Stopham to Sir John de Merkyngfeld, rector of Estkrike, of 2
bovates in Ryppelay and a rent of 10s p.a. from 2 tofts, 2 crofts and 2
bovates there occupied by Ivo Swayn and Alice his wife as life tenants of
Stopham, for 20 years at 40s p.a.
Witnesses: William de Ryppelay, Robert de Staynlay, John de Brereton, Robert
Dns Leeds, Roger de Clitcherom (Clotherholme).
At York, Thursday after the feast of Petronilla the Virgin, 32 Edward I.
Seal in brown wax, small, round, on parchment tag: a human head, legend
illegible.
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PRO, West Yorkshire Archive Service, Leeds: Temple Newsam Collection
[WYL100/HO - WYL100/DZ], WYL100/LS/26-43: Miscellaneous Leeds Deeds ,
Reference: WYL100/LS/26
Copy of a Grant
Creation dates: [25 Mar 1311]
John Abbot of Kirkstall and the Convent to John de Calverley
Consideration: Homage and services, and 2s. -d. payable half-yearly at the
feasts of Pentecost and St.Martin in Winter.
Parcels:
that the said John and his heirs and their tenants at Calverley and the rector
of the church there should have common of pasture for all beasts (except
goats) during the whole year on the common pasture at Bramley lying on the
west of the town, and which extends from the stream called Baggelay Becke
towards Calverlay, which stream is divided between Calverlay and Bramley as
far as the new foss at Bramley, and one branch abuts upon the east of the
pasture called Gibberode enge and the other upon assarted land called
Nicolrode; and if his cattle stray on to pasture of the abbey adjoining,
they shall not be impounded but driven back unless they do damage to corn,
when he shall make amends.
The abbot also grants to John that he may make 2 ponds for 2 mills and move
the same and renew them upon the old and right bank of Baggelay Beck
wheresoever he will provided the building does no damage to the abbot's
property.
Covenant to pay the rent of 2s. -d. p.a. and in default the abbot to have
right of distraint.
Saving to the abbot all homage and services due from John de Rothelay for
common of pasture and all service due from 1 carucate of land in Farsley.
Witnesses: Sir Simon Ward, Henry de Rothelay, William de Beston knt., Richard
de Tange, Roger de Ledes, William Pacefyn, Michael de Raudon.
Given at Kirkestall in the Feat of the Annunciation of B.V.M. 1311.
Memorandum: This is a true copy of an old Copy writt in paper and said to be
a coppie word for word of the grant of Common in Colehill....
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PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]
Reference: DDCC/130/4
Gift
Creation dates: 1 Feb 1316/7
Scope and Content
John de Eynill, lord of Thornton super Swale to Thomas son of Ralph de Cundale
and his wife Emma for their lives, property: messuage with a croft, 2
bovates, 1˝ ac. 1r. land in Cundale which the said Thomas sometime held of
him in bondage Rendering 19s. 1d. yearly for all services except suit of
court of the mill at Thornton. Witn. William the forester ("Forestar"), John
Winmer ad Houel, Richard the cook ("Coco"), of Thornton, Robert the fisher
("Piscator") of the same. Given at Thornton.
=================================================================
PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]
Reference: DDCC/130/5
Letter of Attorney
Creation dates: 28 Sep 1321
Scope and Content
John son of Sir John de Eynill of Egmanton to William le Warener of Cundale,
property: to deliver seisin to Alexander of Ledes and wife Elizabeth of a
place of land and wood called Lytelapelgath and of 2 ac. adjacent land to the
N. in Cundale, with power to enclose Given at Thorneton super Swale.
=================================================================
PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]
Reference: DDCC/130/6
Gift
Creation dates: 14 Oct 1321
Scope and Content
John son of Sir John de Eynill lord of Egmanton to Alexander de Ledes and
wife Elizabeth, property: all his town of Cundale near Thornton super Swale
and all appurtenances in demesne as far as the boundary between Cundale and
Thornton called Heggebeck Witn. Sir John Marmion, Sir John de Walkyngham, Sir
Robert Coyners, Sir Robert de Plompton, Sir Richard de Bernyngham, Sir Robert
de Waddeslay, Sir William Darell, William de Eskelby, William de Cundale,
Warner, John de Wynnemer, John de Mauneby, Robert le Fissher. Given at
Cundale, Seal, armorial on a fess between 4 fleurs-de-lys, 2 fleurs-de-lys.
=================================================================
PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]
Reference: DDCC/130/7
Demise
Creation dates: 12 Mar. 1321/2
Scope and Content
Alexander de Ledes and wife Elizabeth to Sir John de Eynill, lord of Egmanton,
for his wife, property: all their town of Cundale near Thorneton super Swale
Rendering 1d yearly. Given at Cundale Witn. Sir John Marmyun, Sir John de
Walkyngham, Sir Robert Coyners, Sir Robert de Plumton, Sir Richard de
Bernyngham, Sir Robert de Waddeslay, William de Eskelby, William de Cundale
Warener, John de Wymmer, John de Manneby, Robert le Fissher. Seal, armorial,
on a fess between four fleurs-de-lys, two fleurs-de-lys.
=================================================================
** NOTE DATE ERROR - evidently ca. 1325 or later (Adam de Everingham shown
m. to Margaret, widow of John d'Eyvill)
PRO, East Riding of Yorkshire Archives and Records Service:
Chichester-Constable Family [DDCC/111 - DDCC/135]
Reference: DDCC/130/3
Final Concord
Creation dates: Easter (1311?)
Scope and Content
Alexander de Ledes and wife Margaret (by their attorney Peter de Richemond)
plaintiffs, and Boniface de Ledes deforceant, property: manors of Thorneton
super Swale, Cundale, Kyrkeby super Moram, Ledes and Gypton, with 5
messuages, 6 bovates and 7 ac. land and 60 ac. wood in Mideby and Letteby
A. and M. to have manors of Ledes, Gipton and Kyrkeby, and two parts of the
manors of Thornton and Cundale and their appurtenances (except 6 messuages,
7 tofts, 23 bovates and 32 land and 29 ac. meadow in the manors of Kyrkeby
and the two parts of the manors of Thornton and Cundale); and they shall
also have the remainders of the third part of the manors of Thornton and
Cundale, and of specified property in those manors and in Kyrkeby on deaths
of tenants (Adam de Everingham and wife Margaret, Robert de Stokesle and
wife Adeline, Thomas de Fencotes, Thomas de Vallibus chaplain, Nicholas de
Hewyk, Geoffrey de Lutterworth and wife Beatrix, William de Popelton, Robert
de Ellerton, John son of Alan de Brafeford, William de Herneby and wife
Mariot).
=================================================================
PRO, Lancashire Record Office: Hornby Catholic Mission Papers (St Mary's
Church)Yorkshire: Cundall
Reference: RCHY 3/2/17
Creation dates: 1342/3 8 Feb
Language: Latin
Scope and Content
(1) William Darel of ?Seisray [?Sessay], knight
(2) Master ---- of Toppecliff, chaplain
(3) Alexander de ?Lede and Margaret his wife
Letter of attorney from (1) to (2) to deliver seisin to (3) of lands in the
town and territory of Cundale [Cundall] which (3) gave to (1). Given at
Seisray on Saturday after the Purification of the B.V.M.
Seal missing; fragile
=================================================================
PRO, Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office: Peake MSS
Reference: DE220/34
Creation dates: N.D. (14th cent)
Scope and Content
Grant: Gillian daughter of Roger Pogge of Giptona to Alex. son of Alex. de
Ledes: all grantor's land, meadow pasture and right in the moor of Gyptona
as lies from Mikkilsik to the east, and four selions of land lying in
Wellecroftes, one end abutting on the way leading from Gyptona to Neutona
and the other on Sibyllerode, and one selion lying near Sibyllerode in
length between Sibyllerode and the land of said Alex: to hold for ever,
free of all services and secular demands, paying annually to grantor one
halfpenny at Easter: warranty and sealing clauses: witn: Wm. son of Wm.
de Ledes; Wm. Pictavus; Wm. de Allirtona; Wm. de Grimestona; Thos. de
Kaldecotes; Thos. son of John de Gyptona; Walt. son of Ranulf de Neutona;
Richd. de Killingbek.
=========================
re: a probable descendant:
PRO, Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office: Peake MSS
Reference: DE220/43
Creation dates: 13 Ric. II, St. Martin in winter
Physical characteristics: Seal on tag, red wax, armorial
Language: French
Scope and Content
Grant; chirograph: Sir Alex. de Nevill, knt., to Sir Roger de Ledes, knt.: all
the houses and barns within the manor of GYPTON, with free entry and egress
for a term of 3 years, paying Ł23:6s:7d., viz., 10 marks at feast of St.
Andrew, 10 marks at feast of St. Peter as vincula following, and Ł10 at
Christmas following: if said Sir Roger be disturbed by Sir Alex. in
occupation of the said premises, then Sir Roger to be discharged of the said
payment and Sir Alex. to be bound to him to pay Ł46 when required: sealing
clause: written at Shirburn.
Chris Phillips
Rosie Bevan's two contributions to soc.genealogy.medieval, which John kindly
copied to me.
Rosie's observation that there are two different Thorntons involved
certainly clears up one puzzle.
I wonder if the VCH accounts of Cundall and Thornton Bridge would shed any
light on things. Volume 1 for the North Riding has an article on Cundall
with Leckby, and volume 2 one on Brafferton (the parish containing Thornton
Bridge).
On the face of it, it does look as though the 1321/2 transaction may have
been effectively a sale to de Ledes, preserving Margaret's dower rights.
On the possible significance of Adam de Everingham having had a son named
Alexander, one thing that's not clear is whether Alexander was his son by
Margaret, or by his first wife Clarice. It does seem possible that all the
sons named in CP v 187 note g could have been sons of Clarice, as the
marriage lasted at least 13 years.
Chris Phillips
________________________________________________________________________
Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:24:18 +1200
Dear John
Your persistence and energy in pursuing the Everingham line are nothing
short of admirable. You have unearthed some interesting evidence, but the
interpretation of the fines is perhaps not quite in line of what they
represent, as they actually indicate that Margaret was a Ledes widow, not a
daughter.
From the fine you give as [5] it is clear that Adam de Everingham and
Margaret were holding a third of Thornton and Cundall as Margaret's dower
(Alexander and Margaret de Ledes had the other two thirds), and on her
death it would revert back to the Ledes family.
Stronger evidence for this is the text of a similar 1334 (or perhaps the
same) fine reproduced in W. Pailey Baildon, 'Feet of Fines for the County
of York from 1327-1347'. Wakefield: The Yorks. Archaeological Society, 1910.
p.60.
"Westminster. Quindene of Easter, 4 Edw III, 1330
Octave of the Purification, 8 Edw III, 1334
Alexander de Ledes and Margaret his wife, by Peter de Rychemond their
attorney, quer., and Boneface de Ledes, def., of the manors of Thorneton on
Swale, Cundale, Kyrkeby on the Moor, Ledes and Gypton, and of 5 messuages, 6
bovates and 7 acres of land and 60 acres of wood, in Myldeby and Lecceby: To
hold to Alexander and Margaret and the heirs of their bodies, subject to the
life interest which Margaret wife of Adam de Everyngham has by way of dower
in one third of the manors of Thorneton and Cundale..."
This shows that Margaret was a Ledes widow, not a daughter, and all the
transactions over Cundall and Thornton by John Deiville and Adam Everingham
and the Ledes family reflect this.
Which brings us to the question of the identity of Margaret's husband. The
biography of Alexander de Ledes from Knights of Edward I may have conflated
a father and son as it was Alexander, son of Alexander de Ledes who made the
gift to Kirkstall in 1325 ("Item de Alexandro de Ledes filio domini
Alexandri de Ledes militis unam bovatem terrae cum pertinenciis in Gledhow
Allerton cum quadam arca bosci qui vocatur Sampsongreve" - Monasticon
Anglicanum, vol. V, p.546). There is no IPM for the elder Alexander de Ledes
which makes dating his death difficult, but 'Alexander, son of Alexander de
Ledes' was active in 1307 when he bought land by fine [M.Roper, 'Feet of
Fines for the County of York from 1300-1314'. Wakefield: The Yorks.
Archaeological Society, 1965. p.63].
More particularly John d'Eiville had possession of Margaret's dower in
Cundall and Thornton in 1316 which obviously puts her husband's death before
then [Feudal Aids, vol.VI, p.187]. Whether she was a younger wife of the
father, or of an elder brother who died young, there is not enough
information to tell. Given that Margaret had children by Adam de Everingham
in the 1330s, it is unlikely that she was mother of the younger Alexander
who was acting in an adult capacity in 1307.
I'm afraid this still leaves us with a mystery over the identity of
Margaret.
Cheers
Rosie
________________________________________________________________________
9/26/2004 7:58:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Dear John
Thank you for your reply. I agree the matter deserves further research and
have spent a bit more time today doing just that.
It transpires that we are dealing with two Thorntons. One is
Thornton-on-the-hill (or 'super montem' and 'super le hil', as appear in the
Mowbray IPMs concerning the Deyville holdings), now known as Thornton Hill
which is in the parish of Coxwold, four miles north of Easingwold, a short
distance from their holding in Kilburn. It was this estate and two mills in
Baxby, a mile north of Thornton Hill, which John de Ellerker bought from
John Deyville in 1322.
"Westminster. Quindene of Easter, 15 Edw II, 1322
John de Ellerker, senior, quer., John de Eyvill of Egmanton, def., of the
manor of Thornton on the Hill and two mills in Baxby: and after the death of
John de Eyvill--- [the rest left blank]
Octave of Michaelmas, 5 Edw III, 1331
John de Ellerker, quer., Robert, son and heir of John de Eyville, def. of
the same property: To hold to Ellerker and his heirs, subject to the life
estate which Isabel widow of John de Vescy has by demise from John de
Eyvill. Ellerker gave £100. Isabel was present and consenting, and did
fealty."
[W. Pailey Baildon, 'Feet of Fines for the County of York from 1327-1347'.
Wakefield: The Yorks. Archaeological Society, 1910. p.37]
The other Thornton was Thornton-super-Swale, now known as Thornton Bridge, a
mile south-east of Cundall and 10 miles west of Thornton-on-the-hill, and a
completely different estate. It is not surprising, therefore, that each
Thornton was described specifically in each fine, and solves that little
puzzle about the Ellerker sale.
Another thing we needed to establish was the prior ownership of Cundall and
Thornton Bridge for which, to 1316, no evidence in CP or elsewhere to date
has been available. As it happens John de Deyville appears in 1284/85
holding a major part of both, according to Feudal Aids, vol VI, p. 104,
which gives the names of three landholders. At a fifth level of tenancy John
held 6 carucates (John Deyville-James de Norff-Geoffrey de Neville-Ranulf de
Sleys-Roger de Mowbray-the king), the prior of Newburgh held one carucate,
and Nicholas de la Rivere held another carucate. ["THORNETON CUNDALE. - In
eadem villa sunt viij. car. terre, unde xij. car. faciunt f.m. ; de quibus
Johannes de Eyville tenet vj. car. de Jacobo de Norff, et idem Jacobus de
Galfrido de Neville, et idem Galfridus de Ranulfo de Sleys, et idem Ranulfus
de Rogerus de Moubray, et idem Rogerus de rege; et reddit per annum ad finem
predictum iij.s : et prior de Novo Burgo tenet j. car., nomine dotis
ecclesiae sue, sed non dicitur de quo; Nicholas de la Ryver tenet j. car. de
Rogero Moubray, et idem Rogerus de rege; et reddit per annum ad finem
predictum xij.d."].
I think this does establish that John Deyville sold his holding in Cundall
and Thornton Bridge to Alexander de Ledes, but does not necessarily
establish a family connection with Margaret. There is no reason to believe
that John and Margaret's marriage would have taken place following the
Cundall fine unless it represented her marriage portion and I find it
difficult to believe that it is anything else but an exchange of life
interest by John for 1d rent a year in return for eventual possession and an
arrangement for dower, especially as no financial transaction is recorded
(though this may have been left out of the A2A abstract). Following on from
this I'm doubtful about the usefulness of using it as a parameter for the
birth of Joan Deyville. It would be helpful to find the full text of the
fine as it would be more specific with the details.
Hopefully this has helped provide further Ledes.
Cheers
Rosie
The...@aol.com
Dear Rosie, and Chris (et al.),
Your professional persistence and Fine work is much appreciated! Am
planning to spend a bit more time on the subject before the other demands
of the week intrude....
I hope to get to a copy of VCH (directly or otherwise) to see what the
North Riding volumes might provide re: Thornton Bridge and Cundall - and I
see Chris has already noted that possible avenue. Chris, your putting the
VCH contents on medievalgenealogy.org.uk is a major assist.
~ I see that Cundall with Leckby is covered in Vol. I, under
Hallikeld wapentake. Interestingly, while Brafferton appears
under Bulmer wapentake, in Vol. II on the medievalgenealogy.org
site, GENUKI queries reflect Brafferton as being also in
Hallikeld. I wonder if that's an error, or perhaps an older
status that may have been adjusted in a jurisdictional change
after 1890......? Obviously accessing the 2 volumes for North
Riding will solve that riddle.
Again, thanks for all ye do. If anyone of the list might access the
VCH volumes in question before the coming weekend, any information that
would be pertinent to this subject would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
John
____________________________________________
Chris Phillips
> I hope to get to a copy of VCH (directly or otherwise) to see what
the
> North Riding volumes might provide re: Thornton Bridge and Cundall - and
I
> see Chris has already noted that possible avenue. Chris, your putting
the
> VCH contents on medievalgenealogy.org.uk is a major assist.
>
> ~ I see that Cundall with Leckby is covered in Vol. I, under
> Hallikeld wapentake. Interestingly, while Brafferton appears
> under Bulmer wapentake, in Vol. II on the medievalgenealogy.org
> site, GENUKI queries reflect Brafferton as being also in
> Hallikeld. I wonder if that's an error, or perhaps an older
> status that may have been adjusted in a jurisdictional change
> after 1890......? Obviously accessing the 2 volumes for North
> Riding will solve that riddle.
That puzzled me too, although excerpts from directories on the GENUKI site
described Thornton Bridge as being in Hallikeld and Brafferton as being in
both Hallikeld and Bulmer. So if the parish is split between two wapentakes,
I suppose Thornton Bridge must be in the Hallikeld part.
Chris Phillips
Rosie Bevan
The following are VCH entries for Thornton Bridge and Thornton on the Hill.
Unfortunately VCH North Riding of Yorks, vol.1, at my library has been
withdrawn owing to its crumbling condition, so someone else will have to
produce the Cundall entry.
THORNTON BRIDGE
"At the time of the Domesday Survey 6 carucates of land at Thornton Bridge
(Torenton, xi cent. Thorneton-super-Swale, xiii cent; Thorntonbryg, Thornton
Briggs, xvi cent.) were held of the king by Gospatric [VCH Yorks. ii, 284].
By 1284-5 the overlordship had passed to the Mowbray family [Kirkby's
Inquest (Surt. Soc.), 185]. It followed the descent of their manor of Thirsk
(q.v.).
The Mowbray fee in 1284-5 had several mesne lords. The first mesne lordship
was held in 1193 by Ranulph de Sules [Pipe. R 5 Ric I, m.5], who forfeited
it for his refusal to pay a forest fine to the king [Yorks. Inq (Yorks.
Arch. Soc.), i, 267].It was granted to Hugh de Neville, who gave it in
marriage with his daughter to a certain - de Norfolk [Ibid]. This fee in
Brafferton was said in 1284-5 to be held of Ranulph de sleys (Sules?) by
Geoffrey de Neville, of whom it was held by James de Norfolk (Norff') son of
Gilbert de Ilketeshal of Norfolk [Kirkby's Inq, (Surtees Soc.), 185; Cal.
Close, 1279-88, p.376]. At about this time James de Norfolk released to the
tenant in demesne his 9 librates of rent for a yearly payment of 2s. or one
sore sparrowhawk [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.),212] In 1285 he released to
him this rent also, so that the mesne lordship disappeared [Cal. Close,
1279-88, p.376].
The tenancy in demesne belonged from the 12th century to the family of
Deyvill. In 1193 John Deyvill gave the king 40s. that Ranulph de Sules might
be summoned to show why he deforced him of his land at Thornton Bridge
[Pipe.r. 5 Ric I, m.5]. John evidently took the side of the barons in 1215
[Rot. Lit. Claus. (Rec. Com.), i,249b], and was succeeded by his son Robert
[Feet of F. Yorks. 19 Hen III, no.51], who in 1235 quitclaimed to the Abbot
of Byland the fishery in the Swale granted by his father [Ibid]. Another
John Deyville, son of Robert, was party to in 1280 to an agreement with the
Prior of Newburgh by which the prior had the right of distraint on the land
of the Deyvills in Cundall and Leckby if they failed to pay rent for
tenements in Gargrave [Ibid 8 Edw I, no. 118; Baildon, Mon. Notes (Yorks.
Arch. Soc.), 28]. In return the prior promised to hold a service yearly at
Newburgh for the souls of John, Maud his wife, and their heirs and
ancestors. In 1284-5 John Deyvill son of John was holding was holding 6
carucates in Cundall and Thornton Bridge [Baildon op.cit 146; Kirkby's
Inquest (Surt. Soc.), 184.]. The younger John seems to have had two
daughters, Elizabeth married to Alexander de Ledes and margaret, whose
husband is not known [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.), 202]. In 1323 he
granted the manors of Cundall and Thornton Bridge to Alexander de Leeds and
Elizabeth, and gave notice to his tenants that their services were due to
Alexander [Hist. MSSS. Com. Rep. v, App. i, 332]. Twelve years later both
manors were in the possession of Boniface de Leeds, probably son of
Alexander. He granted to Alexander his son and Margaret his wife two parts
of the manors of Thornton and Cundall, and the reversion of the third part,
which was held at the time by Adam de Everingham and his wife as her dower
[Feet of F. Yorks. 8 Edw III, no.2].
Alexander and Margaret de Leeds had a daughter and heiress Elizabeth
[Wrottesley, Ped. from the Plea R. 104], who married as her first husband
Ralph de Nevill, a younger son of Ralph Lord Nevill of Raby. He succeeded to
the manors held by Alexander de Leeds and became the founder of the family
known as the Nevills of Thornton Bridge."
Source: VCH Yorkshire North Riding, v.2 p.101
"THORNTON-ON-THE-HILL (Thorrenton near Ulveston, xiii cent.) came with the
rest of this district into the hands of Roger Mowbray, and was held of him
and of his descendants as of their manor of Thirsk. [Chan. Inqp.m. 1 Edw III
(Ist nos., no. 87; (ser.2), xxxviii, 40].
The tenants of the manor from the 12th century onwards were the family of
Dayvill or Davidvilla [Ibid 5 Edw III (2nd nos.), no. 96]. In 1275 John
Dayvill was holding the manor, and was heavily in debt to the Jews [Yorks.
Inq (Yorks. Arch. Soc.) i, 160]. The most valuable part of his property in
Thornton-on-the-Hill was his mill [Ibid. Henry II granted one oak yearly
from the forest of galtres for the repair of this mill (Chan. Inq. p.m. 5
Edw III, 2nd nos, no.96; Cal. Close, 1330-3, p.507], which was worth £8
13s.4d. The demesne land was worth £1 17s. and the demesne messuages 10s.
One of his creditors must have been the Peter Byset (or 'le Taburner) who in
1276 agreed that John might re-enter upon his manor here on payment of 578
marks [Cal. Close R., 1272-9, pp. 402, 428]. Before 1307 the manor had been
leased to Isabel de Vesci for her life [Cal.Pat. 1307-13, p. 35; Kirkby's
Inq. (Surt. Soc.), 323]. She was still holding it in 1322, when he conveyed
it to John Ellerker, senior [Feet of F. Yorks. 5 Edw III, no. 11]. In 1328
John de Ellerker seems to have distrained on Isabel to get possession of the
manor [De Banco R. Mich. 2 Edw III, m.163]. She died soon afterwards,
however, [Cal. Close, 1330-3, p.507] and in 1331 Robert Dayvill, son of John
quitclaimed his right also to John of Ellerker [Feet of F. Yorks. 5 Edw III,
no. 11]."
Source: VCH Yorkshire North Riding, v.2 p. 20
As an added bonus the following is a 1275 Yorkshire inquisition into the
extent and the income of John Deiville lands in order to pay his debts owed
to the Jews, from William Brown, 'Yorkshire Inquisitions of the Reigns of
Henry III and Edward I'. Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1910. p.159-160.
"JOHN DE EYVILLE. * A Jewry debtor.
Writ dated at Westminster, 27 May, 3rd year (1275), ordering the Justices
assigned for the custody of the Jews, that after searching their rolls and
chirographers's chests of Jewry, in the presence of Paytefain, son of
Benedict the Jew, if he wish to be present, they should cause cause to be
shown (purari) all the debts in which John de Eyville is bound to the said
Jew; also in the presence of Master Elias and Salomon son of Salomon, Jews
of London, all debts in which the same John is bound to Elyas Blunt, late a
Jew of London, which, after his death, came (it is said) to us and the said
and the said Master Elyas and Salomon, namely as well net as of penalties
(tam de claro quam de penis), and usury appertaining to those debts, and
that they should send the return made under seal, and return the writ.
Another writ dated at Westminster, 15 June, 3rd year (1275).
Extent of the lands and tenements of John de Eyville in the County of York,
made on Wednesday before the feast of S.Wilfrid, 3 Edw. (9 Oct 1275), before
Alexander de Kirketon, sheriff of the county, by William de Buscy, Marmaduke
Darel, knights, John de Neuby, Nicholas de Cneton, Gilbert de Iselbec,
Ranulf de Dalton, William son of the Clerk (fil' clerici), Hugh Ke, Michael
de Boske (?), Robert Wygot, Adam de Hoton, and John Oliver.
TORENTON ON SWALE Annual value
Demesne messuage 2s. 0d.
Demesne land, 104 acres (at 6d.) £2 12s. 0d
Meadow, 30 1/2 acres (at 2s.6d.) £3 16s. 3d.
Mill and fishery £6 13s. 4d.
Services of freemen £1 4s 4d.
Bondmen and cottars £9 19s 0 1/2d.
Underwood half a mark 6s 8d
----------------
£24 13s. 7 1/2d
THORENTON ON THE HILL
Demesne messuage 10s. 0d.
Demesne land, 74 acres (at 6d.) £1 17s. 0d
Meadow, 3 acres (at 3s.) 9s. 0d.
Service of freemen 12s. 0d.
Mill, 13 marcs £8 13s. 4d.
Bondmen and cottars £5 0s. 0d.
----------------
£17 1s. 4d.
KILBURNE
Demesne messuage 6s. 0d.
Demesne land, 57 acres (at 4d.) 19s. 0d.
Meadow, 14 acres (at 2s.) £1 8s. 0d.
Service of freemen 12s.0d.
Bondmen and cottars £4 12s. 0d.
Parks and vivaries 6s. 8d.
-------------
£7 5s 8d.
ATHELINGFLET
Demesne messuage 6s. 8d.
Demesne land, four carucates £15 0s. 0d.
Services of freemen 15s.0d.
Bondmen and cottars £10 0s. 0d.
Meadow, 16 acres (at 2s. 6d.) £2 0s. 0d.
--------------
£28 1s. 8d.
Total £77 2s. 3 1/2d.
[*] No doubt the same person as the John de Eyville who was one of the last
amongst the adherents of Simon de Montfort to yield to the royal authority.
After the disastrous battle of Evesham, he set up a fortified camp at Ely,
and issuing forth thence, plundered Lincoln and Norwich, carrying off the
jews and rich citizens for the sake of their ransoms. He was driven out of
the isle of Ely in July 1267 bt Prince Edward, and managed to escape and
join the earl of Gloucester, who was holding London against the King. he
shared in the general pacification of the kingdom, which was shortly
afterwards brought about by the enactment of the Provisions of westminster.
Some of the above-named debts very possibly arose from expenses and fines
imposed in relation to the rebellion."
Cheers
Rosie
David Hepworth
Following on from the various discussions about the Leeds, Thweng,
Daiville, Everingham families - I've started to map out the early
Leeds family with references - please bear with me - it's a slow
haul!!
Below is material to date - however this morning I visited Bradford
Archives to plough through Paley Baildon's unpublished notes and MS -
and have information that once transcribed may helop - much sits on
Dodsworth's unpublished materials as well as his own research, but
please bear in mind it is dated 1887!!
Assulf (Essolf)
II
Peter=Emma Lascelles
II
Thomas de Ledes=
II
William de Ledes=Amabel Adam de Ledes Robert de Ledes Gilbert de
Ledes
THOMAS DE LEDES
EYC, i, 169-170, no 201 (1175-85)
Confirmation by William Ward to house of Sinningthwaite of his
father's gift of land in Essholt. Witnesses: Ada filio Petri, Thoma
fratre ejus, Ada filio Normanni, Willelmo sacrista, Ada filio Orm,
Gilberto capellano, Ricardo capellano de Otteley, Alexandro de
Mortona.
EYC, iii, 191-2, no 1499 (1154-8)
Notification of Henry de Lascy for the soul of Robert his father and
Matilda his mother…60s worth of rent, custody of St Nicholas' hospital
etc. Witnesses Adam filio Petri et Thoma fratre suo, Willelmo de
Reinevilla et Adam filio suo, Roberto Pictavensi que dedit prefate
ecclesie unam bovatam terre in Altoftis cum pertinentiis et
aisiamentis ipsius ville, Roberto de Stapilton, Henrico Walensi, Petro
de Tou[les]tona
EYC, iii, 196, no 1505 (1160-70)
Notification by Henry de Lascy to Roger, archbishop of York, of his
gift to the monks of Pontefract of church of Kippax which Robert his
father had given on the day of the foundation. Witnesses: Ottone de
Tilli, Jordano Folioth, Ada filio Petri et Thoma fratre suo, Ada de
Reinevilla, Reinero clerico, Willelmo de Bulli, Roberto Avenel,
Ascetillo de Hardewic, Jordano de Aula, Alano Hasard et aliis.
EYC, iii, 197, no 1507 (1158-77)
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy to monks of Rievaulx of gift of Adam
son of Peter, namely Oggethwaite with the iron ore and dead wood for
smelting it near Stainborough. Witnesses Rannulfus presbiter filius
Huberti, Ricardus [Bar]bot, Helias filius Essolfi, Robertus filius
Hugonis, Willelmus elemosinarius, Robertus dispensator, Thomas filius
Petri, et Rogerus frater ejus.
EYC, iii, 200-1, no 1510, (1177-85)
Confirmation by Robert de Lascy to monks of Kirkstall of gifts of
Henry de Lascy his father, William de Reinevill, William de
Heddingley, Sampson de Alreton, Roger de Wrangebroc, Henry le Walleys
and William de Summervill. Witnesses: Galfrido Hageth, Adam de
Reinevill, Willielmo de Bulli, Burnello, Thoma filio Petri, Vione de
Longvill[ers].
EYC, iii, 214, no 1527 (1159-70)
Grant by Jordan Foliot I to monks of Pontefract of West mill of Norton
for which they shall render yearly ½ mark to the chapel of Norton.
Witnesses Willelmo Foliot, Ottone de Tilli, Osberto archidiacono tunc
dapifero Hugonis de Tilli, Willelmo de Bulli, Bertramo filio Willelmi
Fristuna, Adam de Prestuna, Thoma filio Petri, Roberto Barbo, Willelmo
de Leileya, Thoma filio Thome, Hugone de Strettuna, Henrico de Dai et
Radulfo fratre suo, Rogero Pictavensi, Adam Pictavensi, Rogero de
Suinlingtona, Roberto camerario, Roberto dispensatore, Ricardo Barbo,
Aschetillo de Lunda, Jordano de Ledestuna et fratribus, Thoma de Monte
et Michaele filio ejus, Roberto skirmisore, Fulcone Franceis, Jordano
de Rouescestre, Waltero Flandrensi, Henrico medico.
EYC, iii 216, no 1529 (1159-70)
Confirmation by Jordan Foliot II to canons of Nostell of mill at
Norton which Jordan his father had given. Witnesses Henrico de Laceio
de cujus feodo est, Osberto archidiacono, Otho de Tilli, Willelmo de
Builli, et Roberto fratre ejus, Toma filio Petri et Radulfo Filigura
EYC, iii, 216-7, no 1530 (1160-70)
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy with the consent of Robert his son, to
monks of Pontefract of west mill in Norton. Witnesses: Willelmo de
Bulli et Thoma filio Petri, Willelmo de Munbegone, Burnello dapifero
comitis de Warenne, Rogero Gros pesbitero, Hugone diacono et Henrico
de Munjai.
EYC, iii 234-5, no 1555 (1175-83)
Confirmation by Adam son of Warner (de Sutton) to monks of Pontefract
of gift made to them by William son of Roger of 3 acres in Sutton etc.
Witnesses: magister Ailbinus, Adam filius Petri, Thomas frater suus,
Robertus de Stapiltona, Petrus de Toulistona, Willelmus filius
Walding, Henricus et Otto et Robertus filii sui, Willelmus de
Michlefeld, Geraldus de Lutertona, Thomas dapifer, Willelmus frater
suus, Herebertus filius Willelmi, Henricus filius Petri, Nigellus de
Witewode…
EYC, iii, 283-4, no 1621 (1180-91)
Grant by Peter de Autrey to Philip his brother of land which Philip
holds in Hunslet. Witnesses: Paulino presbitero de Ledes, Roberto de
Gant, Anotnio de Altaripa, Willelmo filio Gamelli, Thoma filio Petri,
Radulpho de Best[on], Roberto filio ejus, Reinero filio Ade, Radulpho
filio Walteri, Philippo filio Antonii de Altaripa, Hugone de
Staint[on].
In notes "The canons released a rent of 20s and arrears of $5, which
rent the grantor's father and ancestors used to render to them from
half a carucate in Beeston and from the mill of Hunslet. John de
Beston and Alexander de Ledes were witnesses. (Dodsworth MS, viii, f.
278d). This confirms that Alexander is of Thomas' line.
EYC, iii, 287-8, no 1626 (1175-77)
Grant by Henry de Vernoil I to house of Temple of Jerusalem of 34
acres of land etc in Egborough. Witnesses: Bartranno priore de
Pontefracto et toto conventu, Jordano Foliot, Ada filio Petri, Toma
fratre ejus, Ottone de Tilli, Henrico de Waleis, Malgero de Stivetun,
Willelmo de Beleue, Sansone filio Hervi, Henrico filio Jordani Foliot,
Jordano de Ledestun',Alexandro et Johanne et Rogero de Ruhale, qui hec
concesserunt et confirmavertunt.
EYC, iii, 288, no 1627, 1175-77
Grant by Roger de Rohale to Temple of Salomon of land in Egborough and
Shirwood (Yorkshire) and Hirst. Witnesses: Ada filio Petri, Thoma
fratre suo, Alexandro de Rohale, Henrico de Vernoil, Helia de Hirst,
Johanne et Guill[elmo] hominibus meis, Guillelmo de Essex, Alano de
Reines.
EYC, iii, 289, no 1629, 1177
Confirmation by Henry de Lascy to brethren of Temple of Salomon of
land which brother Robert de Pirou acquired of the grantor's fee in
Egborough of the tenure of Henry de Vernoil, Alexander de Rohel etc.
Witnesses: Roberto de Laci filio suo et herede, Ada de Reinervil
seneschallo, Willelmo de Builli, Thoma filio Petri, Thoma de
Reinervil'.
EYC, iii, 306, no 1650 (1150-70)
Quitclaim and surrender by rod by William de Somervill I to Henry de
Lascy of land in Kiddal. Witnesses: Rogero presbitero, Willelmo
Vavasur, Willelmo de Bulli, Thoma filio Petri, Henrico Hatecrist,
Waltero Flamango, Willelmo Capun, Rogero clerico, Serlone clerico,
Alano Bucel, Willelmo Wahard, Willelmo fratre Ansgotis, Benedicto
filio Forni, Symone filio Puppe, Waltero de Tulusa.
EYC, iii, 325, no 1673 (1154-77)
Notification of Ralph son of Urselin to Roger archbishop of York of
his confirmation to Nostell of all they hld of Henry de Lascy in
Crofton. Witnesses: Willelmus presbiter, Lambertus medicus,
Stephanus filius Radulfi, Nicholaus filius Huberti ,Ansketillus de
Malnvers, Thomas filius Petri, Simon scutarius.
EYC, iii, 337-8, no 1692 (1170-85)
Grant by Thomas son of Peter (de Leeds) to monks of Fountains of wood
in Kirkheaton and ore etc… Witnesses: Paulinus de Ledes et Petrus
frater ejus, Philippus de Alta Ripa, Umfridus de Laceles, Huteredus de
Mirefeld, Gualterus de Busc, Jordanus de Hetun, Radulfus filius
Audelini, Guillelmus filius Gamelli, Robertus de Wirkel[eia] et
Ricardus frater ejus, Umfridus de Hetun et Hugo frater ejus, Umfridus
sescaldus.
From notes "Kirkheaton, including Upper Heaton was held by 2 brothers
TRE and by Gamel of Ilbert de Lacy at the Survey as 3 carucates of
land. Afterwards the entire township was held of the Lacies by Adam
son of Swane and his heirs general, the Nevills. About 1180 the
tenants of the manor were: (1) Adam son of Peter son of Assolf and
Thomas son of Peter, known as "of Leeds", his brother; (2) Jordan son
of Richard de Heaton; (3) Hugh and Uctred, the sons of Ravenkill de
Mirefeld; and were, I believe, the parents of William Withaud. There
remained 4 bovates which would represent the glebe of the church of
Kirkheaton which remained in the gift of William de Nevill, in right
of his wife Amabel, daughter and coheir of Adam son of Swane, and the
heirs general of William and Amabel until about 1282.
The gift of Thomas son of Peter was confirmed by Adam his brother,
whose death is known to have occurred early in 1185. This
circumstance establishes the downward limit of date in respect of this
charter and indicates the approximate date of several others in which
this gift is mentioned. The charter Heton n. 24 (Fountains Cartulary)
suggests that Thomas son of Peter was then dead and William his son in
possession of a fourth part of Kirkheaton. The date is 1192-1200.
EYC, iii, 339, no 1693 (1175-85)
Confirmation by Adam son of Peter to Fountains of the alms which
Thomas (de Ledes) his brother gave in Kirkheaton. Witnesses:
Radulfus de Insula, Philippus de Alta Ripa, Malgerus de Stivit[ona] et
Hugo filius ejus, Samson de Alret[on], Jordanus filius Alexandri de
Alret[on], Petrus de Alta Ripa, Petrus de Toulestuna.
EYC, iii, 339-40, no 1694 (1180-95)
Confirmation by William son of Thomas (de Ledes) to Fountains of land
which Thomas son of Peter, his father, gave them of his fee in
Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Thoma filio Petri meo padre, Roberto fratre
meo, Roberto pincerna de Ledes, Umfrido clerico de Hetun ….
EYC, iii, 340, no 1695 (1192-1200)
Grant by William son of Thomas de Ledes to Fountains of wood in
Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Turgisio abate de Kirkstal, Radulfo tunc
priore, Jordano de Hetun, Willelmo Withaut, Petro de Wirkelai, Adam de
Wirkelai, Radulfo de Birstal, Thoma persona de Hertesheved, Hugone de
Melwde.
From Notes: "The grantor released to John de Birkin, his lord, for 5
marks his whole fee in Kirkheaton. This he did:
Coram tota curia domini Rogeri de Lasci, constabularii Cestrie, apud
Pontemfractum, die Sabbati proxima post festum Sancti Benedicti
abbatis, anno regni regis Johannis xo [28 March 1209]. Hiis testibus:
Roberto Walensi tunc senescaldo, Henrico de Puteaco, Johanne de
Daivilll, Ada de Reinevill, Willelmo de Stapelton, Jordano de Sancta
Maria, Hugone de Touleston, Hugone de Stapelton, Rogero de Birkine,
Thoma de Thorenton, magistro Reimund, Hugone filio Walteri (Fountains
Cartulary, Heton no 16)
Immediately after this John de Birkin granted to Fountains the whole
fourth part of the town of Heton and whatever they had had by the gift
of Thomas son of Peter and William his son. Witnesses: Robert Waleys
then sheriff of York (1204-1209), Gerard "sanctuaries de Eboraco" and
others. (Fountains Cartulary, Heton no 17) "
EYC, iii, 341, no 1696 (1190-1210)
Feoffment by William son of Thomas de Ledes to Gilbert his brother of
a bovate in Kirkheaton to hold by doing forinsec service of that land
where 24 carucates make a knight's fee. Witnesses: Umfrido de
Laceles, Rogero de Birkin, Jordano de Hetun, Germino de Thornhyl, Ada
persona de Hetona, Ada et Roberto fratribus meis, Alano de Witelai, et
aliis.
From Notes afterwards the grantee gave this bovate to Fountains by
deed attested by John de Byrkin, Peter and Roger his brothers, Jordan
de Heton, Humphrey de Lacels and others (Fountains Cartulary, Heton,
no 19). William the son of Thomas de Ledes also gave a tillage called
Suthrode, namely the ridding which lay between the road leading from
Heton to Whitley ("Huitelei") and the brook of Lepton (Fountains,
Heton, no 22).
EYC, iii, 341-2, no 1697 (1170-85)
Grant by Walter de Busc and Edith his wife to Fountains of dead wood
etc. Walter affirms the gift by the hand of Walter le Fleming and
Edith by the hand of Diana wife of the said Walter. Witnesses:
Guillelmus presbiter de Heton, Gualterus le Flamang, Guillelmus de
Ledes, Galfridus et Johannes filii Diane, Thomas filius Petri,
Uctredus de Mirefeld, Ricardus Claviger, Rogerus de Suieheuet, Thomas
Flamang.
EYC, iii, 344-5, no 1701 (1195-1211)
Grant by Edith Whithaud, daughter of Ralph de Blythe, and William her
son to Fountains of 24 acres of land etc…which Thomas son of Peter (de
Ledes) gave…. Witnesses: Jeremias persona de Thornhill, Radulfus
clericus de Byrstall, Robertus de Lyverseg, Hugo de Suinlington, Serlo
de Hwitteleia, Umfridus de Laceles, Jordanus Tagun, Robertus de Ledes,
Adam Clynt, Adam de Crosland, Umfridus de Heton, Suanus et Serlo de
Hetun, Guillemus de Secroft, Jordanus carpentarius, Rogerus, Serlo, et
Radulfus filii ejus, Jordanus de Hetun.
EYC, iii, 346, 1703 (1180-90)
Grant by Uctred son of Ravenkill de Mirefeld to Fountains of 12
acres….which the monks had of the gift of Thomas son of Peter (son of
Assulf) in the wood of Kirkheaton…. Witnesses Paulinus de Ledes,
Petrus presbiter de Ledes, Thomas filius Petri, Gualterus le Flamang,
Gualterus de Busc, Serlo clericus de Mirefeld, Adam de Crosland,
Umferai clericus de Hetun et Hugo frater ejus, Ricardus de Wirkeleia.
EYC, iii, 347, no 1705 (1195-1215)
Grant by Jordan son of Richard de Heton to Fountains of land lying
between the ladn late of Thomas son of Peter and Laising's ridding.
Witnesses: Unfredo de Lacel[es], Jordano Tagun, Ada persona de Hetun,
Galfrido capellano de Hetun, Unfred clerico, Willelmo Wythaud.
EYC, iii, 347-8, no 1706 (1195-1211)
Grant by Jordan son of Richard de Heton, William son of Thomas de
Ledes, Adam de Mirefeld and William Withaud to Fountains of moiety of
water of Colne which belongs to Kirkheaton. Witnesses: Umfridus de
Laceles, Ricardus filius ejus, Jordanus de Rither, Robertus filius
Thore de Liverseg, Henricus filius ejus, Umfridus clericus de Heton.
EYC, iii, 355, no 1718 (1175-83)
Grant by Osbert de Bayeux to Pontefract of land in Middle Haddlesey
with native dwelling there… Witnesses: Adam de Reinevilla dapifero,
Adam filio Petri, Thoma fratre suo, Roberto filio predicti Ade,
Maugero de Stivetona et Hugone filio suo et aliis.
David Hepworth
WPB/10/37
Here are the notes from Baildon's files – I have not had chance to
check them and the Fountains and Kirkstall charters appeared in print
after Baildon's death. I will try and do the work over the coming
week – though any other input would be welcome. Please excuse the
rough nature of the notes – but this is how they appear.
West Yorkshire Archive Service Bradford (WYASB)
WPB/10/37
Genealogy of Leeds Family
1. Assolf d. 1165
1.1 Peter (de Flockton) married Emma Lascelles d. 1165
1.1.1 Adam de Birkin d. 1207
1.1.2 Thomas de Leeds married Constance de Caux elder daughter and
coheiress of Robert de Caux. Held lands in Leeds by gift of his
brother Adam/ Grant of dead wood and minerals and 12 acres of land
and wood thereon in Heton to Fountains after 1154. Confirmed by
brother Adam (Burton Monasticon Eboracense – Mon Ebor)
1.1.2.1 William de Leeds married Amabel. She was relict and
quitclaimed her dower to Fountains. Appears as "William son of Thomas
son of Peter" in grant of land in Heton to Fountains. "Son of Thomas"
in grant of lands in Heton to his lord John de Birkin in 10 John – c.
1209 (Dodsworth MS Harleian 797). Confirmed charters of Richard
Pilkington, living 13 John – 1212 – Charter to Kirkstall Abbey or
Fountains (Mon Ebor)
1.1.2.1.1 Adam de Leeds "Adam de Leedes in Seacroft" deed at end of
Henry III's reign (Whitaker, Loidis and Elmete)
1.1.2.1.1.1 "William son of Adam de Leedes" witness with Alexander de
Leeds on a charter at the end of Henry III (Loidis & Elmete). Witness
to Kirkstall charters c. 1240 – 1250. "William de Northall de Leeds"
1270; William ad Northall de Leeds (Thoresby Soc, vol iv, 51, 55, 58)
1.1.2.1.1.2 Thomas de Secroft son of Adam de Leeds, Kirkstall charter
at end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete) also witness to Kirkstall
charter November 11, 1248 (Thoresby Soc iv, 52)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1 William de Leeds (Foster's Pedigree) which is omitted in
some MS
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Roger de Leeds or "de Northall". Married Margaret
? daughter to Hornby and widow of Sir Robert Wiswich and Sir Gilbert
Keighley (knights) – Wilson MS. Relict 1340 (Harl 796). Was wife of
Roger Leeds Knight with lands in Saxtron and Waxton Woodhouse for her
term of life 30-32 Edward III – 1357-59, after to Robert and Olive
Hornby of the Dominican Convent in York subsequent to 1347 (Coll. Top.
Gen., vol iv, 77) NB Margaret Hornby who married Sir Gilbert Keighley
as her 2nd husband living as his wife 1407-8 and later.
In Kirkby's Inquest he held one Knight's Fee in Headingley and Altofts
in conjunction with the Abbot of Kirkstall and John Scott of Calverley
as "ke Leedes", also 1/8 Fee in Leeds of Robert de Everingham as "de
Northall", also 1/8 Fee in East Ardsley of the same as "de Ledes"
(Dodsworth MS Harleian 797). Witnessed charters of Richard Pilkington
as Roger de Northall 15 Edward I – 1287, ½ Knight's Fee in Heton,
Frisinghall, Armley and Sheepscar of Robert de Everingham – Aid 30
Edward I – 1302, for ½ Knight's Fee in Leeds 5/-, for 1 carucate in
Wirkelay 2/2d, 31 Edward I 1303 juryman for the wapentake of skyrack,
held 1/8 fee in Leeds, 1 carucate in Wortley and 2 carucates in Heton,
Nomina Villorum 1316 land in Saxton (Harleian 796), fines 1-6 Edward
III 1327-1337 Roger Ledes and Margaret uxor lands in Saxton and Saxton
Woodhouse, Monasticon Anglicanum Kirkstall witness to charter of John
de Calverley 17 Edward II – 1324, Loidis and Elmete witness to deed of
William Legh of Rothwell 1330-32 Thoresby Soc, vol iv, 81-82, witness
to Kirkstall charter 1325.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert (?Roger) son and heir of Sir Roger de Leeds
(Harleian 801) grant to brother Richard in 1340. Married Joan who was
a relict in 1347 when she quitclaimed rights to lands in Heton to
Fountains (Mon. Ebor)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2 Richard de Leeds living 1340 (Thores Soc iv 125 ref
brawl in Kirkgate)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.3 Thomas de Leeds living 1340 (as above)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.4 Robert, ? cleric living 1340 (as above)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Roger de Leeds held land in Armley late of him by
Adam de Foxton 3 Edward III – 1364 (Harl 797). Juror in Inquisition
at York 35 Edward III 1367 (Harl 802). Married Margery who had 1/3 of
More Grange in 1364 (Harl 797)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert (Foster's Visitation)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Roger de Leeds apparently a minor in 1364
(Harl 797). Paid relief for the manor of Gomershall (Feodary
Pontefract 48 Edward III – 1375)(Harl 797). Noncupative will 1398,
had rents in Burley, Castleworth and Morley; will proved 27 February
1398 (Harl 802). Query the Sir Roger buried in Leeds church (Foster's
Pedigree and will of descendant – Lady Hussye, 1594). Held land in
Cusworth (Hunter South Yorkshire. Married Lady Jane who was relict
and executrix in 1398 (Harl 802). Query that she was daughter and
heiress of Robert de Tilli (Dodsworth MS Ad Ms 24468)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William de Leeds (Harl 802) "son and heir of
Roger de Leeds, Knight". Grant of manor of Northall, Okewell and
Castleworth by William de Leeds of Ripon 2 Henry IV – 1401. Also
grant of manor of Northall with rents in Leeds and Burley by William
Thornhill pastor of the churcxh of Thornhill 8 Henry IV – 1407. Held
lands in Headingley and Burley (Pleas 1407). Held the manor of
Hornthall 3 Henry VI – 1424-5 (Thoresby Soc, ix, 19). Held 1 Knight's
Fee in Birstall, Gomersall, Popelay, Heckmondwike and Birkinshaw; ½
Fee in Leeds, Holbeck and Armgley and ½ carucate in Woodhouse 3 Henry
VI – 1424-5 (Wilson's MS). Apparently dead 1432-3osp.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Emma de Ledes – heiress of her brother
(Visitation). Married Sir Geoffrey Pigot of Clotheram.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Elizabeth – mentioned in Sir Roger's will
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Catherine – mentioned in Sir Roger's will.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Sir Randolph Pigot in possession of Northall
11 Henry VI – 1422-3 (Thoresby Soc, ix, 14)
David Hepworth
There is an additional section covering Alexander and this should be
read with the following two posts.
1. "Sir Alexander de Ledes Knight, a contemporary of William de Leeds
and the first Sir Roger, but no relationship discovered.
He was a witness to a Kirkstall charter with William son of Adam de
Ledes at the end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete). At Kirkby's
Inquest, he held 1 carucate in Gipton, 3 carucates in Kirkby on the
Moor. Paid 16/- for relief of 1/3 Fee in Gipton 26 Edward I (1298)
(Wilson's MS). Placita de Quo Warranto Edward I after 4th year – 1276
– Alexander de Ledes a juror. Aid 1302 paid 2/6d for 1 carucate in
Gipton. Knight's Fees, 31 Edward I – 1303 – 1 carucate in Gipton.
Grant of free warren in Kirkby on the Moor 32 Edward I – 1304 – and in
Gipton 33 Edward I – 1305 (Harleian 802). Nomina Villarium 1316 held
3 carucates in Kirkby on the Hill (? Or his son). Coroner for
Yorkshire 21 Edward I – 1293 (BL. Add MS 24836)
He married Margaret – a niece to Thomas fil. Reginald de Doncaster or
Malet. Charter early Edward I assigning his interest in Bolton on
Dearn to Alexander de Ledes and Margaret uxor (Hunter South Yorkshire)
1.1 Alexander "son of Sir Alexander de Leedes". Query grant of one
oxgang etc in Allerton and Gledhow to Kirkstall (Mon Ebor). Grant to
John de Eyville 15 Edward II (1322) (Foster's and also Hunter South
Yorkshire). Nomina Villarum joint lord of Bolton on Dearn with
Stephen de Bellew.
He married Elizabeth daughter of Sir William Darrel of Sessay,
Knight, living 1358 (see Foster's Darrel)
1.2 Ellen de Ledes (Harleian 802) married William Paytefin.
1.3 Richard – charter end of Henry III (Loidis and Elmete)
1.4 Robert – as above
1.1.1 Elizabeth – daughter and heiress 33 Edward III – 1360 (Wilson's
MS and Foster's Pedigree)
1.2.1 Alexander Paytefin of Headdingley 9 Edward III 1336 (Harleian
802)
In 1404 there is a fine between Alexander de Ledes and Clemencia uxor
with reference to Saxton. ? son of Thomas de Ledes and Agnes.
WYAS Bradford – WPB/15/101
Taken from Ducatus Leodiensis (Thoresby), p. 106 the original MS in
the possession of Sir Philip Constable of Werringham.
Thomas habuit terras de Leedes ex dono fratris et vacavit se de
Leedes. Married Custanea daughter of Robert de Caux.
II
Adam de Leedes=
II
William de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Roger de Leedes=
II
Sir Roger de Leedes Knight+
II
William de Leedes married Joan, both living 6 Henry V osp.
Also
Emma who married Geoffrey Pigott. They had Ranulf Pigott 15 Henry VI,
who had Goeffrey Pigott 15 Henry VI, who had Ranulf and Thomas Pigott,
who had 3 daughters and co-heiresses.
David Hepworth
interesting elements
WYAS Bradford WPB/15/67
Pedigree of Deyville family based on Dodsworth MS3 fols 27b-28.
Corrected by Baildon June 1887.
Please note that the bracketed letters and numbers (eg SSS.32) relate
to the original indexing system that Dodsworth used – these represent
evidences collected and filed at this point. These MS are in the
Bodleian Library Oxford.
1 Robert Dayvill antiquers (SSS.32). Married ?
1.1 John Dayvill senior son and heir
1.1.1 Robert Dayvill son of John called the elder
1.1.2 Robert Dayville son and heir of John called the younger
1.1.2.1 John Deyvil son and heir of Robert 44 Henry III (SSS.32)
1.1.2.1.1 Dom Johannes Dayvill Lord of Egmanton (G.55) married
Margareta who also married Sir Adam de Everingham
1.1.2.1.1.1 Sir John Deyvill
1.1.2.1.1.2 William Dayville
1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Elizabeth, daughter and coheir married Alexander de
Leeds nup. 19 Edward I (G.55). She also married John Chaumont
Chevalier 32 Edward III (G.31)
1.1.2.1.1.1.2 Margareta, daughter and coheir married NN de Afford
(?Rufford)
1.1.2.1.1.1.3 Elinord married Ricardus de Eskelby
1.1.2.1.1.1.4 Agnes married John de Scharow
1.1.2.1.1.2.1 Robertus Dayvill Chevalier
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Elizabeth daughter and heiress 45 Edward III (Fine 32
Edward III with Alexandre Nevill Chevalier querentem et Radulphum de
Nevill and Elizabetham exorfem deforciants de Man. De Thornton, Gipton
and Kirkby super Moram terre in Mildby…rectis heredibus Elizabetha
(G.31)). She married (a) Ralph fil. Ralph de Nevill of Raby avenculus
of Ralph 1st Earl of Westmorland p. 154). She also married (b) Henry
Gramary as 2nd husband. She also married (c) John Dayvill, husband of
Elizabeth daughter and heiress of Alexander de Ledes (G.55).
Covenants dated 9 Edward III (G.546). John Dayvill was also married
to Margareta – "Margareta uxor John Dayvill de Egmonton 17 Edward II
(EE.III)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1 Alexander de Nevill Chevalier 42 Edward III
(G.55) married Margaret
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1John D=Margareta).1 Johanna daughter and heiress 17
Edward II and 24 Edward III (EE.112) married Adam de Everingham of
Laxton Chevalier. Alienated the manor of Egmanton to William de la
Pole Seneschal with warranty against Jane his wife and his heirs by
fine 24 Edward III (E.112)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1 Alexander de Nevill Chevalier married Katherine
who was relict 16 Richard II.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1 Alexander de Nevill 2 Henry IV married
Katherine daughter of Ralph d'Eure Chevalier 2 Henry IV
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.1 Ralph 17 Henry VI
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2 William Nevill of Thornton Knight 28 Henry
VI married Alicia
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.3 Alinora married Richard Delawar
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.4 Katherine married William Fairfax of Walton
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1 William Nevell 17 Edward IV married
Johanna fil. Christopher Boynton and Jane ux. Vid 1 Richard III (G.56)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.4.1 Thomas Fairfax 35 Henry VI (G.83)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1 William Nevell nat. ante 6 Edward IV
married Alicia
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.2 Ralph (N.17)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.3 Galfridus (N.17)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1 William Nevill miles
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Ralph Nevell of Thornton Briggs
married Anne, daughter of Sir Christopher Wardle of Guiseley Givendale
who was dead 13 Henry VIII (I.6) [Sir Christopher had an elder
daughter Joan who was coheir 2 Henry VII (G.56) et 13 Henry VIII
(I.6). She married Edwardus Musgrave and they had William Musgrave,
who had Sir Richard Musgrave Knight who was dead 11 September 1555
from IPM. He had Thomas Musgrave]
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Katherine coheiress dead 22 13
Henry VIII (I.6) married Walter Strickland (G.55)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Johanna dead 21 13 Henry VIII
(I.6) who married John Constable of Burton Constable.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3 Clara, co heiress, dead 14 13
Henry VIII (I.6) who married Thomas Smith alias Nevell of Holt.
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Walter Strickland
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1 NN son and heir (G.56)
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.2 Mary daughter and heir married
Francis Hornby and then NN Smith a lawyer (I.6).
1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1(a).1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.2.1 Thomas Smyth married Anna
David Hepworth
Here are some miscellaneous notes without any references that Baildon
had found for the Leeds family.
M.N. [no clue as to this reference –still working on it], vol. 3
PAGE DATE NAME
37 1374 John f. Richard
38 Agnes his wife
John his son
Roger
38 1357 Eleanor widow of Richard
Roger
39 John fil Richard
Agnes and John
53 1391 Roger
72 1251 Adam f. Stephen
John fil. Alexander
Richard
73 William f. William
85 1267 Simon
89 William f. William
94 1278 Adam
Robert f. Adam
John f. Alexander
95 1278 Walter f. Agnes
Roger f. Adam
James
Hugh
Franco f. William
William
96 Simon
101 Alexander f. Alexander
102 1201 Robert
107 1275 William
108 William
109 1314 Nigel
112 1332 Alexander
113 Henry
1335 Roger
117 1354 John f. Richard
120 1382 Richard
124 1415 Richard
1414 Robert
127 1260 William f. Thomas
Richard and Joan uxor
128 William f. William
Gilbert
128 c1430 William f. Robert of Sledmere
1437 Alexander de Saxton
130 1440 John de Doncaster
132 1397 Sir Roger
134 1405 William f. of Sir Roger
136 1406 Alexander
William de la Northall de Leeds
David Hepworth
Deyville Genealogy
Taken from Oscar de Ville "Deyville (or de Daiville) Origins of an
English Regional Family", Medieval Prosopography, vol 18, pp. 1-24,
1997.
I have stepped the family tree because I can't find a way of getting
Google Groups to accept JPG images. I have also ordered Dr De Ville's
PhD thesis on the Daiville family and as soon as it arrives and I've
digested it, I'll post additional details. He was tackling the family
from social and political interaction – not necessarily genealogically
driven – however it was PhD for UCL, so the standards must be
exemplary.
1. Walter I, c. 1050, adherent of count of Eu, NE Normandy; 1056,
benefactor, foundation charter of abbey St-Michel du Treport as
"Walter Barbatus de Daiville," or "Davidvilla", of Deville, held
land at Monchy, nr. Eu.
1.1 Walter II, 1060, witness with Walter I to charter of count of Eu;
reputedly at Hastings.
1.2 John, (unproven line), 1068, reputedly with count of Eu vs. Danes
on the Humber, & granted Adlingfleet, Lincs.
1.1.1 Richard, 1109-14 granted lands Nr Melton Mowbray by Nigel
d'Albini. 1130, held 1 KF at Weston-on-Trent, Notts; witness for
Mowbrays, Yorks.
1.1.1.1 Robert I, by 1129, granted 1 KF at Egmanton, Notts., by Nigel
d'Albini
1.1.1.1.1 Robert II, m. (1) NN de Stuteville; (2) Juliana de Montfort,
fl. 1203; c. 1150-86, constable of Mowbray honour; held 5KF of
Mowbray at Adlingfleet, Kilbrun, Egmanton, etc; witness to over 50
Mowbray charters and to Eu charters in Normandy; benefactor, Byland
Abbey, etc.
1.1.1.1.2 Roger, 1145, witness as Mowbray "seneschal", foundation
charter of Newburgh priory; 1 KF at South Cave, Yorks.
1.1.1.1.3 William
1.1.1.1.1.1 John I, married Maud de Percy, daughter of Agnes de Percy
and & Jocelin de Louvain; 1186-90, inherited 5 Mowbray KF; 1203,
grant to St-Michel du Treport, 1215, in rebellion vs King John;
1226, itinerant justice in north; benefactor, Newstead priory,
Notts,; fl. 1228.
1.1.1.1.1.2 Nicholas I, held Caunton, Notts; 1195, rebel with Count
John; 1212, called to arms.
1.1.1.1.2.1 William, held South Cave; married Matilda de Mowbray;
lands near Ripon, Yorks; benefactor, Fountains Abbey
1.1.1.1.3.1 Walter III held Walton, Warwickshire; steward of earl of
Chester; witnessed 30 earl of Chester charters; 1226, justice
itinerant, Warks and Leics; land also in Lincolnshire.
1.1.1.1.3.2 Robert, 1241, justice in Warks; witness to earl of Chester
charters.
1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert III married Denise Fitzwilliam of Sprotboro';
held 5 KF of Mowbray etc; tenant of Vescy iun No. Anston, Yorks;
1214, served in Poitou; 1243 called to serve in Gascony; benefactor
Byaldn, Rievaulx etc; 1251 in debt to Jews.
1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Henry, held Gargrave, Yorks; 1258, served vs Scots;
benefactor Newburgh Priory; baronial rebel; 1264 killed at
Northampton
1.1.1.1.1.1.3 William, 1258, served vs Scots; 1264, prinsoner at
Northampton.
1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Jocelin, held Deighton, Yorks; 1266-67 rebel.
1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Nicholas II, held Caunton, Notts; 1241, deputy sheriff
Notts; 1264 custos pacis Notts; benefactor Rufford Abbey.
1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Peter held South Cave; c. 1220 bailiff of Ripon.
1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Walter IV held Walton, Warks; 1253 Justice Warks. and
Leics.
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John II married (1) Maud de Audley, (2) Alice; held 5
KF of Mowbray etc; 1253 excommunicated; 1258 served vs Scots; 1257,
1260, 1263 Keeper of Forests N of Trent; 1260 called to London
Assembly; 1264 created baron; 1264 custos pacis for Yorks and keeper
of York and Scarborough castles; 1266-67 Disinherited rebel at Ely;
1270's and 80's served vs Welsh; 1285 member of king's household; d.
c. 1291-5.
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert, 1266-67 rebel with John at Ely
1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Adam, 1264 rebel held Bilburg, Yorks and Thorpe,
Notts; squire to John at Ely.
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Roger held S. Cave; c 1220 bailiff of Ripon
1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Roger in heavy debt; surrendered Walton, Warks by 1270
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John III married (1) Agnes, (2) Margaret; 1295
under age; called "John D of Adlingfleet"; held Egmanton etc; 1299 at
Falkirk; served vs Scots; d 1325/6.
1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1 Jocelin (? Time between generations) married Sarah;
held Deighton; 1300 valettus to archbishop of York; rebel with earl
of Lancaster; executed 1322.
1.1.1.1.1.1.4.2 Robert
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 William (unproven line)
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Robert IV married Margaret de Holbeach.
1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.1 Jocelin
1.1.1.1.1.1.4.1.2 William
1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Thomas (unproven line) married Isabella; 1315
bailiff of Ripon; 1322 custos Yorkshire; 1323 granted Bilton, Yorks.
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 John IV, d. 1349/50 sp
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Robert, clerk; d. 1369
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Agnes [de Bilton]
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.4 Joan [de Croft]
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.5 Katherine [de Egmanton of Fockerby]
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.6 Elizabeth [de Kidall]
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Dear Rosie, David, et al.,
Mirabile dictu, the account in VCH for Leckby provides an interesting
and (I think) accurate, if not extremely detailed account of that holding of
the 'Deyvill' family, which should be read vis-a-vis the account for
Thornton Bridge (Vol. II) which Rosie posted previously.
The Victoria History of the County of York,
North Riding, I:364-5
" LECKBY (Letteby, xiv cent.; Lexby, xvii cent.) was associated
closely with Cundall in the Domesday Survey [V.C.H. Yorks. ii, 230],
and had the same overlords throughout its history. It was also held
by the Deyvills from the 13th century [Feet of F. Yorks. 8 Edw. I,
no. 118; Kirkby's Inq. (Surt. Soc.), 339]. In 1320 John Deyvill
granted to his daughter Margaret the vill of Leckby, with remainder
to Alexander de Leeds, Elizabeth his wife [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch.
Soc.), 201] and Alexander's heirs. He granted the park belonging
to the manor to Alexander and Elizabeth, who two years later
refeoffed him of it [Hist. MSS. Com. Rep. v, App. i, 332]. This
park is not mentioned again.
Margaret Deyvill had three daughtes - Edelina, Eleanor and
Agnes. Their respective husbands were Thomas del Schires, Richard
de Exelby and John de Sharow [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.), 202].
In 1354 Thomas de Schires and Edelina confirmed their lands and
tenements in Leckby to Ralph de Nevill [Ibid.; Feet of F. Yorks.
29 Edw. III, no. 9. He had married Elizabeth daughter and heir
of Alexander de Leeds (Wrottesley, Ped. from the Plea R. 104).
See Thornton Bridge, V.C.H. Yorks. N. R. ii.]. The other
co-heirs disputed the possession of this third part with
Alexander de Nevill son of Ralph in 1392 [Yorks.D. (Yorks. Arch.
Soc., 202], and he was ordered to restore it. The 'vill and
lordship' of Leckby was settled on John Sharow and his heirs
in 1416-17 [Ibid. 203], but issue in this family must
ultimately have failed, for in 1424 Alexander Nevill was in
possession [Ibid.]. "
The foregoing account fits chronologically with the essence of the
information David provided from WYAS Bradford WPB/15/67 [which account by
Dodsworth and Baildon requires some additional editing]. Interestingly,
the pedigree which evolves from merging these two accounts contrasts with
that portrayed in VCH II:101 [Thornton Bridge], in that the number of
generations to Elizabeth de Ledes, wife of Ralph de Neville of Thornton
Bridge is noticeably compressed in comparison.
Robert Deyvill = Denise FitzWilliam
d. aft 1242 I
___________I
I
Sir John Deyvill = 1) Maud [de Mowbray ?] 2) Alice
d. bef 1286 I m. bef 8 May 1275
______________I
I
Sir John Deyvill = 1) Agnes = 2) Margaret (she m. 2nd
b. aft 21 July 1274 I I Adam de Everingham 'Sr')
d. 1325/26 I I had dower in 1334 [1]
I I_______________
_______________________I____________ I
I I I <EGMANTON>
I I I I
Sir Robert Elizabeth Margaret Joan
m. bef May = Alexander = NN de Afford = bef May 1332
1321 to de Ledes (or Rufford ?) Sir Adam de
Margaret (son of Sir [Dodsworth; Everingham 'jr'
Holbeach Alexander) WYAS Bradford] d. 1387/88
[d. bef 28 I I I
Apr 1338] <CUNDALL> I V
<THORNTON BRIDGE> <LECKBY>
________________I _______________I_________________
I I I I
Elizabeth Edelina Eleanor Agnes
= Ralph de = Thomas del = Richard de = John de
Nevill Schires Exelby Sharow
fl. 1354 I
I I
I I
Alexander de Nevill John Sharow
of Thornton Bridge of Leckby, co. Yorks.
* restored Leckby to co-heirs * d. bef 1425
(Schires, Sharow), 1392 (probably dsp)
* acquired Leckby 1424 or before
The acquisition of Leckby by Alexander de Nevill in or before 1424 was
by some device other than legitimate inheritance, as Robert Deiville
(brother of the sisters Margaret and Elizabeth) had extant descendants at
that date (Egmanton of Fockerby, and Kidale of South Ferriby, co. Lincs.).
If it was believed during judgment that the heirs of Robert de Deiville
had died out, it is certainly possibly that Leckby was awarded to
Alexander Nevill of Thornton Bridge ca. 1424 in error.
I show herein that Alexander de Ledes, husband of Elizabeth Deiville,
is the son of Sir Alexander de Ledes (presumably by his wife ' Margaret
– a niece to Thomas fil. Reginald de Doncaster or Malet ', as per Baildon,
WYAS Bradford WPB/10/37). The foregoing does not address the placement of
Alexander de Ledes and his wife Margaret, parties to the fines of 1330 and
1334 concerning Cundall, Thornton Bridge & c. [Westminster. Quindene of
Easter, 4 Edw III, 1330; and Octave of the Purification, 8 Edw III, 1334].
I suggest one of the following two probabilities:
1. Margaret (fl. 1330/1334) was a 2nd wife of Alexander de Ledes,
after the death of Elizabeth Deiville; or
2. Alexander de Ledes (husband of Margaret) was a son of Alexander
and Elizabeth (Deiville) de Ledes, who fl. 1330-1334, but d.s.p.,
leaving his sister Elizabeth (de Ledes) de Nevill as the heiress
of Thornton Bridge.
Cheers,
John
John Ravilious
Hello All,
In writing in the previous post concerning the inheritance of
Leckby by Alexander Neville of Thornton Bridge (1424 or before), I
intimated that there may have been some irregularity in the process.
The text from VCH I cited before actually provides the answer:
" In 1320 John Deyvill granted to his daughter Margaret the vill
of Leckby, with remainder to Alexander de Leeds, Elizabeth his
wife [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch. Soc.), 201] and Alexander's heirs. "
The heir of Alexander de Ledes and Margaret Deiville (i.e.,
Alexander Neville) acquired Leckby properly, based on the provision
cited in the VCH account.
Cheers,
John
The...@aol.com wrote in message news:<60.451ecbd...@aol.com>...
> Thursday, 30 September, 2004
>
>
> Dear Rosie, David, et al.,
>
> Mirabile dictu, the account in VCH for Leckby provides an interesting
> and (I think) accurate, if not extremely detailed account of that holding of
> the 'Deyvill' family, which should be read vis-a-vis the account for
> Thornton Bridge (Vol. II) which Rosie posted previously.
>
>
> The Victoria History of the County of York,
> North Riding, I:364-5
>
> " LECKBY (Letteby, xiv cent.; Lexby, xvii cent.) was associated
> closely with Cundall in the Domesday Survey [V.C.H. Yorks. ii, 230],
> and had the same overlords throughout its history. It was also held
> by the Deyvills from the 13th century [Feet of F. Yorks. 8 Edw. I,
> no. 118; Kirkby's Inq. (Surt. Soc.), 339]. In 1320 John Deyvill
> granted to his daughter Margaret the vill of Leckby, with remainder
> to Alexander de Leeds, Elizabeth his wife [Yorks. D. (Yorks. Arch.
> Soc.), 201] and Alexander's heirs. He granted the park belonging
> to the manor to Alexander and Elizabeth, who two years later
> refeoffed him of it [Hist. MSS. Com. Rep. v, App. i, 332]. This
> park is not mentioned again.
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Dear Rosie, David, et al.,
I obtained temporary custody of William Brown's work (YAS) on Yorkshire
Deeds, one of the sources for the VCH articles on Leckby and Cundall. The
text on pp. 201-202 cited by VCH is more or less as given there, and while
specifying that Margaret was a daughter of John de Deiville, the same was
not spelled out re: Elizabeth, wife of Alexander de Ledes.
That information was provided in the same volume on p. 213, under
"Thornton Bridge", in the following two documents:
' 585. Octave of the Purification, 14 Edward II. (Feb. 9, 1320-1).
Deed of gift from John, son of Sir John de Eyvill of Egmanton,
to Alexander de Ledes and Elizabeth, daughter of the said
John, of all his goods and chattels in his manor and vill of
Thornton on Swale. (Sizergh Castle.) '
' 586. Monday after the Purification, 14 Edward II. (Feb. 9, 1320-1).
Letter of attorney from John de Eyvill, lord of Egmanton, to
Thomas le Vendour and William le Parker, to deliver seisin to
Alexander de Ledes and Elizabeth, John's daughter, of his
manor and vill of Thornton on Swale. Thornton on Swale.
(Sizergh Castle). ' [1]
This validates the identification given in the prior post as to both
Margaret (de Daiville) _____ and Elizabeth (de Daiville) de Ledes being
daughter of Sir John de Daiville, or Deiville (d. 1325/6). This does not
resolve whether or not there was another Alexander de Ledes (husband of
Margaret) who was a son Elizabeth, or if her husband Alexander had a
2nd wife Margaret (see below).
Other helpful material is to be found in the same section, including
the following grant:
' 584. Monday before St. Nicholas the bishop, 12 Edward II., (Dec. 4,
1318). Grant for life by John de Eyvill, lord of Thornton on
Swale, to Edelina de Ufford, of six acres of meadow in his
meadows of Thornton on Swale, to be taken in the better part,
paying yearly a root of ginger (una racina gingiber') on
Christmas day.
Witnesses, John Winmer, William the Forester, John Magnby,
Thomas son of Giles, Robert the Fisherman. Thornton.
(Sizergh Castle). ' [2]
David Hepworth had posted information previously from WYAS Bradford,
giving the husband of Margaret de Daiville as "NN de Afford (or Rufford?)"
as shown in my chart previously. Margaret had a daughter Edelina, a rather
uncommon name/spelling, the wife of Thomas del Schirres, who would have
been incorrectly shown in my chart originally as either "Edelina de
Afford" or "Edelina de Rufford". It is evident her name was actually
Edelina de Ufford: either she was a very young beneficiary of the 1318
grant cited above, or the Edelina de Ufford of that grant may have been
the mother of Margaret de Daiville's husband, and future grandmother of
the Edelina de Ufford (also granddaughter of John de Daiville). The
possibility of a de Ufford or d'Ufford link here is intriguing (whether
of the Suffolk family of note, or otherwise).
As to the identification of Margaret, the wife of Sir Alexander de Ledes
(2nd wife), the following is given by Brown under "Bolton-on-Dearne":
' 524. Grant by Thomas de Donecastre to Sir Alexander de Ledes
and lady Margaret his wife, the grantor's niece (nepti),
and their heirs, of the homage of John, son of William de
Doncastre, the grantor's brother, for a tenement in the town
of Bolthone with a mediety of the church of the same vill,
as was testified by Thomas's charter to William.
Witnesses, Master William Bellew (de Bella aqua), Thomas
de Scaucebi, Robert de Lumbi, William Malet, Hugh Bayard
of Billingle, Robert Tuye. (Sizergh Castle.) ' [3]
The exact relationship is not spelled out, although it does not sound as
if Margaret was a daughter of William, the brother of Thomas de Doncaster.
This may however assist in identifying her parentage, and whether or not
she had descendants of her own.
Cheers,
John
NOTES
[1] William Brown, F.S.A., ed., Yorkshire Deeds (The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society Record Series, Vol. XXXIX, 1900), p. 213.
[2] Ibid.
[3] Ibid., p. 194.
The...@aol.com wrote in message news:<60.451ecbd...@aol.com>...
> Thursday, 30 September, 2004
>
>
> Dear Rosie, David, et al.,
>
> Mirabile dictu, the account in VCH for Leckby provides an interesting
> and (I think) accurate, if not extremely detailed account of that holding of
> the 'Deyvill' family, which should be read vis-a-vis the account for
> Thornton Bridge (Vol. II) which Rosie posted previously.
>
>
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