? Olaf of Skotkonung/NYE
C.A.Carpenter
I have a NYE line that leads (supposedly) back to the below, wonder if
anyone has seen any of this before...
Thank you,
Chuck
Descendants of Styribiorn Son of Olaf
1 Styribiorn Son of Olaf of Skotkonung b: Abt 1260 in Sweden d: in Sweden
+granddaughter of Harold BLAUTAND b: Abt 1260 in Sweden
2 Lave Nye b: Abt 1295 in Sweden d: in Sweden
Anders Berg
At 08.07 1996-11-26 -0500, you wrote:
>Descendants of Styribiorn Son of Olaf
>
>
>1 Styribiorn Son of Olaf of Skotkonung b: Abt 1260 in Sweden d: in Sweden
> +granddaughter of Harold BLAUTAND b: Abt 1260 in Sweden
>
>2 Lave Nye b: Abt 1295 in Sweden d: in Sweden
>
??? Where ever did you get this from? Everything is wrong!
Or is it a joke...?
Cheers,
Anders
C.A.Carpenter
>>2 Lave Nye b: Abt 1295 in Sweden d: in Sweden
>>
>
>??? Where ever did you get this from? Everything is wrong!
>Or is it a joke...?
No, not a joke.. or at least I'm not lauging yet.. I suppose it could happen:)
Chuck
The Nyes in Europe
Denmark
The name Nye as a family name made it's first appearance
about the middle of the thirteenth century in the Sjelland Section of
Denmark. At the time there were great internal
uprisings in Sweden and many of the Swedes fled to adjoining
countries to escape the dangers
which threatened them at home. These people settled in little
communities throughout Denmark and we find traces of their settlements in
such compound names as Ny-borg, Ny- stead, and other towns named after
their Swedish homes; in like manner to the naming of New Amsterdam the Dutch
settlers in America; the prefix Ny in the Danish language, meaning new or
new comer.
In the adoption of surnames which hitherto had been
practically unknown they employed much the same method. Great confusion
often resulted from the lack of a surname and so to distinguish a man he was
given a surname which suggested itself from some form of
characteristic of the man, as for instance a trade or occupation,
such as Baker, Carpenter, or Gardener, often his figure made the necessary
suggestion, as Broad, Short, or Tallman; or the
simple addition of son, as Johnson, Williamson, or Robinson.
And so one of these emigrants from Sweden was given by the
inhabitants of his new country the name Nye or New-comer.
For the ancestry of this man we must look to the traditional
history of Denmark. There are several stories of his origin but one will be
sufficient to give us a point from which we
may start. This tradition tells us that about the middle of the
thirteenth century a person came and settled in Fredericksborg Bailiwick and
Slangerup Parish in the Sjelland Section of
Denmark. There was a rumor that he was the descendant of Harold
Blautand who died in 985.
through his daughter, who married one of the most famous of the
Swedish heros, Styribiorn, son of Olaf, King of Sweden.
LAVE NYE was a son of this descendant of the royal house
of Sweden and is the first whose name appears on record. He became a man of
great prominence and in 1316 was
Bishop of Roskilde in the Sjelland Section. (Lexicon over
Adelige Familier in Denmark, Norge og Hertogdommene).
SVEN NYE is mentioned in 1346 as the heir of his father,
the Bishop Roskilde. (Dainske Arkive). In 1363 he had in Tudse Holbeck
Bailiwick, Sjelland Section a grant of land. ( Lands Kontorets Annaler ) He
probably died the same year, since his son,
MARTEN NYE was in that year declared heir of his father
in Tudse. ( Historia Sjellandia Volume I, page 68 ).
From the book " A Genealogy of the NYE family by George Hyatt and Frank E.
Best & David Fisher Nye, published 1097.
C.A.Carpenter
Thank you Anders,
The Nye family are direct ancestors of mine on my mothers side.
The Nye book was published in 1907, I thought perhaps in the 90 years since
it's publication someone might have come up with a little more information
or links...
As the book itself states it's more speculation than anything else, but you
never know and I thought it was worth at least a query!
Thanks again,
Chuck..
At 12:01 AM 11/27/96 +0100, you wrote:
>OK, not a joke but quite amusing!
>
>An interesting story! What we have is the family legend of
>the origin of the oldest known member of a Danish noble family called NYE.
>
Anders Berg
OK, not a joke but quite amusing!
An interesting story! What we have is the family legend of
the origin of the oldest known member of a Danish noble family called NYE.
The legend makes a 300+ year leap between Styrbjorn and Lave Nye. Wonder
what the intermediate generations are! To be honest, I don't think there is
a bit of truth in this story.
On top of it all, Styrbiorn's marriage with Harald's daughter is legend in
itself, and no real evidence for it exists. Olaf, the alleged father of
Styrbjorn, should not be confused with the later Swedish king Olaf
Skotkonung (d. 1022). Skotkonung is by the way a nickname, so drop the "of"
in front of it.
However, the historical background told in the legend was interesting. Is
there any evidence for a substantial emigration from Sweden to Denmark in
the 13th
century? I've never heard of it.
Cheers,
Anders
Cheers,
Anders