Early Frevilles of Tamworth & Cambridgeshire: a re-evaluation
mj...@btinternet.com
certain progenitor was Baldwin Freville (died circa 1257). He is said
to have had two wives, and from the two marriages the two branches of
the family are said to descend.
Dugdale (in his Peerage, vol 2, sub Freville) tells us that:
"Baldwin de Freville having obtained [a] the wardship of Lucia,
daughter and heir of Richard de Scalers, for which he paid 200 marks,
soon afterwards made her his wife [b] and paid in 30 Henry III [c1245]
upon the collection of the aid for marrying the King's daughter [c]
fifteen pounds for those 16 knights' fees which were of her
inheritance. This this Baldwin Richard his son and heir succeeded"
[a] Claus. 15 Henry III m 13 (sic) - i.e. 1230-1231
[b] Pipe Rolls, 16 Henry III, Cambs & Hunts
[c] Pipe Rolls, 42 Henry III, Cambs & Hunts
Dugdale tells us that Richard the son and heir ff 42 Henry III - i.e.
1257-1258 - when he was on service in Wales [Pipe Rolls 42 Henry III,
Cambs & Hunts], which suggests that he was then at least a teenager.
I understand that Sanders, and the Genealogist article from 1984 about
the Frevilles, assigns Lucy de Scalers as Baldwin's second wife, and
Maud, daughter of Sir Hugh Giffard and Sibyl nee de Cormeilles, as his
second. However, as Maud is also said to have survived Baldwin,
remarried to William de Ebroicis and died in 1289, she clearly cannot
be the first wife, and thus if anything must be the second.
An interesting item is that found in the Patent Rolls for 10 July 1253:
"Confirmation of a sale by Baldwin de Freville to Sibyl Giffard of the
marriage of his son and heir"
This suggests that Maud Gifford's Freville marriage was after 10 July
1253, probably to the son and heir of Baldwin Freville then living.
That Baldwin died circa 1257 is apparent from the entry in the Patent
Rolls for 8 February 1257:
"Grant to Eleanor, Queen of England, of the wardship of the lands of
Baldwin de Freville, tenant in chief, with the marriage of the heirs
and of the sometime wife of the said Baldwin with her forfeiture should
she marry without the Queen's licence."
This infers that Baldwin's heir was not yet 21, and that he left a
widow.
Richard, apparently Baldwin's eldest son and heir, and the son of Lucia
de Scalers, succeeded to the Cambridgeshire estates, centred around
Little Shelford, which had previously belonged to the de Scalers
family. He died in 1299 and his descendants remained at Little
Shelford for a further three centuries. It is apparent that he left a
widow Mabel, who was still living in 1325 [Cal Pat Rolls, 4.1.1324/5].
Baldwin is assigned two younger sons: a younger Baldwin, who died in
1289 without issue, and Alexander, who was his brother's heir in 1289
and who died in 1328; his descendants held Tamworth Castle, which
Alexander had been granted in 1291.
Clearly, if Maud Gifford married secondly William de Ebroicis (who was
killed at Evesham in 1265) she cannot have married either Richard (died
1299) or Baldwin (died 1289).
Where does she fit into the Freville family?
Of whom were the younger Baldwin and Alexander the sons?
Douglas Richardson
Although the secondary sources have muddled the early history of the
Freville family, the line of descent is actually quite clear if one
studies the descent of lands.
The head of this family, Baldwin de Freville (died 1257) married (1st)
Lucy de Scalers, by whom he had one son, Richard (died 1299), of Caxton
and Shelford, Cambridgeshire, Munden-Freville, Hertfordshire.
Following Lucy's death, he married (2nd) Maud Giffard, daughter of Hugh
Giffard, of Boyton, Wiltshire, by Sibyl, daughter and co-heiress of
Walter de Cormeilles, of Weston-under-Edge, Taddington, etc., co.
Gloucester. Baldwin (died 1257) had two sons by his 2nd marriage to
Maud Giffard, namely Sir Baldwin (who died without issue in 1289), and
Sir Alexander (died 1328), of Tamworth. Maud Giffard married (2nd)
William Devereux, Knt., of Holme Lacy, Herefordshire, who was slain at
the Battle of Evesham 4 August 1265. They had further issue. In 1286
Godfrey Giffard, Bishop of Worcester, granted Maud Devereux and Sibyl,
her daughter, an acre of land in the field of Wyston, which after their
deaths should go to the prioress and nuns of Wyston. Maud died 20
August 1297.
That Sir Alexander de Freville was the son of Maud Giffard is proven by
two records. First, I find that Alexander had a grant of land in
Marden, Herefordshire from his uncle, Godfrey Giffard, Bishop of
Winchester. Second, Sir Alexander was heir through his mother to a
one-sixth share of the barony of Tarrington, Herefordshire, which lands
were Giffard estates.
I find that Sir Alexander de Freville (died 1328) and his wife, Joan
Cromwell, had issue one son, Sir Baldwin de Freville (died 1343), of
Tamworth, and two daughters, Margaret (wife of Sir Henry de Wilington)
and Elizabeth (wife of Eustace de Whitney).
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www. royalancestry. net
mj...@btinternet.com
Douglas Richardson schrieb:
Dear Douglas
Many thanks for your informative response. The only element of this
that doesn't immediately make sense is the Patent Rolls entry for 1253,
viz "confirmation of a sale by Baldwin de Freville to Sibyl Giffard of
the marriage of his son and heir".
Assuming this Baldwin, living in 1253, to be Baldwin (died 1257)
husband of Lucy de Scalers, the son and heir must be Richard de
Freville (died 1299). Rather than viewing it as a reference to Maud
Giffard's marriage, perhaps we should read it to mean that Baldwin was
already married to Maud Giffard, and sold the marriage of his underage
heir to the latter's step-grandmother - a most curious transaction.
And thus perhaps Richard's otherwise unidentified wife Mabel was a
connection of the Giffard family.
Regards, Michael
WJho...@aol.com
mj...@btinternet.com writes:
<< Rather than viewing it as a reference to Maud
Giffard's marriage, perhaps we should read it to mean that Baldwin was
already married to Maud Giffard, and sold the marriage of his underage
heir to the latter's step-grandmother >>
Why could not "Sibyl Gifford" be Maud's mother Sibyl (Cormeilles) Gifford ?
mj...@btinternet.com
WJho...@aol.com schrieb:
She would be; in my post, "the latter" refers to "(the) underage son
and heir" not to Maud Giffard.
MA-R
Matthew B. Berry
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> I find that Sir Alexander de Freville (died 1328) and his wife, Joan
> Cromwell, had issue one son, Sir Baldwin de Freville (died 1343), of
> Tamworth, and two daughters, Margaret (wife of Sir Henry de Wilington)
> and Elizabeth (wife of Eustace de Whitney).
Mr. Richardson, can you provide a source citation for the marriage of
Margaret de Freville and Henry de Wilington? Any help would be appreciated.
- Matt Berry
Douglas Richardson
Complete Peerage, 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 649, footnote d (sub Wilington)
mentions Sir Henry de Wilington (died 1322) in passing. No mention is
made there of his marriage to Margaret de Freville. So Henry and
Margaret's marriage would be a new addition to Complete Peerage.
Some years ago, Charles Fitch-Northen kindly sent me an account of the
Wilington family, in which he included a copy of an abstract of the
marriage settlement of Henry de Wilington and his wife, Margaret de
Freville. As I recall, Margaret's father, Sir Alexander de Freville,
was specifically named in the document. Unfortunately, my
correspondence with Mr. Fitch-Northen is presently buried someplace in
my basement. Even so, I'm not sure that he wrote his source for the
document on the copy he sent me. However, I believe I have since seen
the marriage contract in old issues of Misc. Gen. et Heraldica,
although I warn you that I could well be mistaken as to the source.
Whatever the situation, I think you can find the marriage at least
mentioned in Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerage in the account of the
Wilington family. I believe the marriage is also mentioned in Wallop,
p. 843, where Margaret's surname is incorrectly spelled Trevill.
Further details on the Wilington family can be found in VCH Gloucester
7 (1981): 29; 11 (1976): 285-286.
I find that Ronny Bodine mentioned Henry de Willington's marriage to
Margaret de Freville in a post here on the newsgroup back in 1996. For
interest's sake, I've copied Ronny's original post below. I suggest
you contact Ronny privately by e-mail and ask him his source for the
marriage.
Beyond that, you can also find many references to this couple in
Ancestry World Tree at the following weblink below:
In the meantime, good luck in your sleuthing.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www. royalancestry. net
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COPY OF RONNY BODINE'S EARLIER POST
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From: rbodine...@aol.com
Subject: Re: RICHARD CHAMPERNOUN (1344-1419), OF MODBURY, DEVON
Date: 1996/12/05
newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Based upon our earlier exchange wherein it is established
that Margaret, wife of Robert Hill was the daughter of Richard
Champernowne III, apparently by his 2nd wife, Katherine
Daubeney, I took a look at her ancestry and came across
something interesting---she too is descended from the
Champernownes. I cracked the books and assembled the
following:
The Inq. of Walter de Treverbyn and Andrew de Solenny
(CIPM, 4: no. 82), dated to 1302, refers to the manor of
Faweton, co. Cornwall and its division among the heirs
of Andrew de Solenny. The heirs included his aunt,
Emma de Sulenny. The IPM reads "From Emma the
younger sister issued one Oliver de Campo Arnulphi her
son and heir, from him one Joan his daughter and heir,
from her Ralph her son and heir, and from him one John
de Welynton, who now holds his pourparty and is off full
age and married.
Turning to Lord Hylton's History of the Parish of
Kilmersdon, Emma de Sulenny is better identified as
Emma de Soligny and her husband Jordan de Campo
Arnulphi, parents of Oliver de Campo Arnulphi.
Complete Peerage, 12(2): 645 says Ralph de Wilington
(died 1255/1260) married before 17 July 1238, Joan,
daughter and heiress of William or Oliver de Champernon,
by Eve, daughter of Rainald de Whitchurch, of Shrivenham,
Berkshire. Joan was living 1284/6. The editors of CP
acknowledge the above IPM, they also refer to "ancient
pedigrees" where the name is given as William, citing
Pole's Despription of Devon, p. 422, and Vivian, of course.
In a footnote, the editors add that Joan cannot have been the
daughter of Oliver, who died before 1242, for the lands in
Devon then held by Oliver's heirs, Birch Barton, Southcott and
Ilfracombe, were held in 1303 by his grandson, William de
Champernon and not by the Wilingtons.
In looking at Vivian's pedigree it appears he (or actually the
authors of Harleian MS 5185) misassigned Eva (heiress of
Isolda de Cardinham) to the wrong Oliver. That the wife of
Oliver de Champernowne (died before 1242), grandfather of
Sir William (died 1304), is not known, and Eva should
actually be the wife of Oliver de Campo Arnulphi, son of
Jordan de Campo Arnulphi and his wife Emma de Soligny.
I must admit I am momentarily confused at the note in
Vivian that Eva was an heiress of Isolda, daughter of
Andrew de Cardinham. English Baronies (p. 110) does
state that Andrew de Cardinham died 1252/4 and was
the father of Isolda (living 1301), wife first of Thomas de
Tracy, then of William de Ferrers, of Beer Ferrers, Devon.
Andrew de Cardinham was married to Isolda de Soligny,
sister of Emma, wife of Jordan de Campo Arnulphi, based
on Lord Hylton's History.
If this is the case, then the line should run as follows:
01. Jordan de Campo Arnulphi = Emma de Soligny
02. Oliver de Campo Arnulphi = [Eva, heiress of Cardinham]
03. Joan de Campo Arnulphi = Ralph de Wilington
living 1284/6 died 1255/1260
04. Ralph de Wilington = Juliane [de Lomene ?]
died 1294 died 1299/1323
05. Henry de Wilington = Margaret de Frevill
exec. after Boroughbridge,
1322
06. Henry de Wilington = Isabel de Walesbreu
d. 1349
07. Alianore de Wilington = Sir Giles Daubeney
d. 1400 d. 1396
08. Katherine Daubeney = Richard de Champernoun
1344-1419
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History of the Deanery of Trigg Minor in the County of Cornwall_ by Sir John
Maclean (London: Nichols & Son, 1873-79 (Three volumes) I: 384. Haven't
checked this in years, but believe it is there.
HS
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