Plumptons and Scropes
CHOMPHOSY
people's opinions of its veracity.
My great-grandmother Bertha Motley was the daughter of Milton Tilden Motley and
Elizabeth Catherine Wommack. Milton Tilden was the son of Samuel Clayton Motley
and Susan Moxley. Samuel Clayton was the son of David James Motley and
Elizabeth Pendleton. My knowledge of the Motley line ends a few Josephs earlier
with a Joseph who may have come to America as an indentured servant, but
Elizabeth was the daughter of Phillip Pendleton and Martha Aubrey. Phillip was
the son of James Pendleton and Elizabeth Clayton. James was the son of Henry
Pendleton and Mary Bishop Taylor. The Pendletons I have going back to Thomas
Pendleton, b. 1380.
Mary Bishop Taylor was the daughter of Col. James Taylor and Mary Bishop
Gregory. James Taylor's g-g-grandparents, with a James and a couple of Thomas's
between, were Dr, Rowland Taylor (of Foxe's Book of Martyr's fame) and Margaret
Tyndale.
Mary Bishop Gregory was the daughter of John Gregory and Elizabeth Bishop. John
was the son of Roger Gregory and Margaret Thornton. Roger was the son of Bishop
John Gregory.
Margaret was the daughter of Christopher THornton and Mary Lake. Christopher
was the son of Stephen Thronton and Cecily Metcalfe. Stephen was the son of
Thomas Thornton and Elizabeth Metcalfe. Thomas was the son of Robert Thornton
and Jane Layton. Robert was the son of William Thornton and Agnes Aldbrorough.
William was the son of Robert Thornton and Isabel Mekylfeld. There were a
couple more Robert Thorntons, both Lord Newton. They were preceded by Thomas
Thornton and a couple of Lord William Thorntons.
Agnes Aldborough was the daughter of Richard Aldborough and Agnes Plumpton.
Agnes was the daughter of William Plumpton and Elizabeth Stapleton. William was
the son of Robert Plumpton and Agnes Foljambe. Robert was the son of Sir
William Plumpton and Alice Gisburn. William was the son of Robert Plumpton and
Isabella Scrope. At this point, my information seems to match messages from
this group on the Scropes and Plumptons.
Robert Plumpton was the son of William de Plumpton and Christiana Mowbray. I do
not have parents listed for Christiana, but William was the son of Robert
Plumpton and Lucy de Ros. The Plumptons go on back through Robert, Nigel, and
another set of Robert and Nigel to Peter de Plumpton, son of Eldredus de
Plumpton.
Isabella Scrope was the g-granddaughter of and Lucy de Ros was the daughter of
Willaim de Ros and Eustache Fitzhugh. William was the son of William Ros and
Lucia FitzPiers. William was the son of Robert de Ros and Isabel of Scotland.
Robert was the son of Everard de Ros and Roysia Trussebur.
Isabel was the daughter of William I of Scotland and Isabel Avenal. William I's
family background is well-enough documented.
This is terribly long, for which I apologize. I'll greatly appreciate any
confirmation, or the opposite. Thanks!
David Mowbray
<chom...@aol.com> writes
<snip>
>Robert Plumpton was the son of William de Plumpton and Christiana Mowbray. I do
>not have parents listed for Christiana, but William was the son of Robert
>Plumpton and Lucy de Ros. The Plumptons go on back through Robert, Nigel, and
>another set of Robert and Nigel to Peter de Plumpton, son of Eldredus de
>Plumpton.
If I may but in on this thread, I too would be interested to discover
who were the parents (and any earlier ancestors) of this Christiana
Mowbray.
(And not just because my mother was Charlotte Christiana Mowbray after
her marriage !)
David
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Douglas Richardson
Christian de Mowbray (the woman about whom you enquired) was
married three times, first to ______(possibly Felton), by which
marriage she subsequently claimed dower in the manor of
Thriston, Northumberland; second, to Richard de Emeldon (died
1333), wealthy merchant, Mayor of Newcastle-upon-Tyne,
Northumberland; and third, William Plumpton, Knt., of Plumpton,
co. York. She had one daughter by her Emeldon marriage and two
children by her Plumpton marriage.
The 1480 Visition of the North (published as Volume 144 of the
Surtees Society) refers to her as "filia Mowbray." The Plumpton
Correspondence states she is called "de Mowbray" to a Harleian
Manusscript 1487. Her place in the Mowbray family is
established by a 1334 item in the Close Rolls, following the
death of her second husband, Richard de Emeldon, in which it is
recorded that she appointed her brother, John de Mowbray, to set
out her dower in the Emeldon estates. The only John de Mowbray
in the Patent and Close Rolls of this period appears to be her
brother, John de Mowbray, 3rd Lord Mowbray.
Beyond that, I can add that Christian's grandson, Sir William
Plumpton, "a brave and daring knight," was executed in 1405 for
participation in a plot involving "some of the family" of
Christian's nephew, Thomas Mowbray. So, clearly the two
families were closely associated with each other.
Best always, Douglas Richardson
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In article <8drb5c$13c$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, rta...@my-deja.com
wrote:
>In article <157873d1...@usw-ex0102-084.remarq.com>,
> Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com.invalid>
wrote:
>> Hi David:
>>
>> Christian de Mowbray (the woman about whom you enquired)
>
><snip>
>
>The only John de Mowbray
>> in the Patent and Close Rolls of this period appears to be her
>> brother, John de Mowbray, 3rd Lord Mowbray.
>
>
>Hmmmmh, let's see. So....Christian's parents were:
>
>John de Mowbray, b. 4 Sep 1286, d. 23 Mar 1321/1322
> + Alice de Braiose, d. Bef 20 Jul 1331?
>
>
>Thanks, Roger Tansey
>
>
>
>Researching: Abell, Adams, Andrews (Andros), Bradford,
Cummings, Diehl,
>Franklin, Hanbury, Hovey, Hughes, Ivorye, Jewett, Jolliffe,
Keith,
>Lane, Metcalfe, von Marxheim, Mowrey, Norris, Perry, Pierce,
Prangley,
>Rider, Shirley, Stead, Stevens, Tansey, Wood
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