Issue of Thomas del Booth of Barton Lancs +1368
mj...@btinternet.com
of Barton-in-Eccles, Lancashire. In particular the sons and grandsons
of Thomas Booth (d 1368) have been covered, but I cannot find any
review summarising his full family, and therefore wondered whether the
following might be a useful start.
Thomas del Booth was the son and heir of Robert Booth, in turn the son
of John Booth and Loretta de Barton, the heiress of Barton, Lancs (VCH
Lancs, vol 4, sub Barton). He married Ellen Worsley, the daughter of
Robert Worsley of Booths (Vis Lancs 1664-5, sub Worsley). In or about
1368 he died as a result of an assault by Robert Worsley and others -
presumably this was his nephew, son of his wife's brother William (Vis
Lancs, ibid). He left a will, under which he set up various chantries
and requested to be buried in Eccles church.
The issue of Thomas Booth and Ellen Worsley were:
1. William Booth, eldest son and heir; died without issue [HoP
1386-1421, vol 2, sub John Booth].
2. John Booth, JP, MP, died 1422; married Joan Trafford; left six
legitimate sons and five daughter, plus an illegitimate sons. Of
these, the legitimate children included (a) Sir Thomas, son and heir;
(b) Sir Robert, married Douce Venables; (c) John; (d) Roger; (e)
William, died 1464, Archbishop of York; (f) Margery, married Sir John
Byron, MP; (g) Katherine, married 1stly Sir Thomas Radcliffe, MP, and
2ndly Nicholas Boteler, MP; the natural son was Laurence Booth,
Archbishop of York (d 1480). John Booth has a biography in HoP.
3. Henry Booth, MP, died 1446; MI at Barrow near Swarkestone,
Derbyshire; married and had a son, John, and a daughter, Alice, wife
of Nicholas Fitzherbert, MP. Henry Booth also has a biography in HoP.
4. Katherine Booth, married Gilbert de Culceth:
"February 14th 1365: Gilbert de Culceth, aged 19 and upwards, in the
church at Manchester, openly acknowledges his marriage to Katherine,
the daughter of Thomas de Bothe" [Lancs & Cheshire Historical &
Genealogical Notes, J. Rose, vol. 1, Leigh, 1879, p 66, #LXVII]
5. Ellen Booth, said to have married as his first wife, Sir John
Radcliffe (afterwards married to Margaret d'Anyers) [http://
www.tudorplace.com.ar/RADCLIFFE3.htm]; obviously this is not a
reliable source per se.
Corrections/additions welcome.
Regards, Michael
suthen
I think it is VCH Lancs IV:366 which gives additional children to this
family:
Additional Sons:
Thurstan, Robert and Roger
Additional Daughterts:
Alice, Anne (or Elizabeth) and Margaret
Hap
P. S. I believe Thomas' mother is Agnes de Notton, daughter of Gilbert
de Notton nd Cecily _____.
Ken Ozanne
Edward Baines, History of ...Lancaster, Vol III chart facing p113
has William (not shown as eldest son), John, with two marriages, the first
to Maud, d of Sir John Savage of Clifton and with Lawrence shown as
legitimate son, the second to Joan d of Sir Henry Trafford of Trafford, with
one more son than you mention. You mentioned five of your six, the others
were Richard (4th), of Strickland, and Ralph, seventh son.
Also marriages for Joan (2) = (a) Sir Thomas Shirburn and (b) Sir
Thomas Southworth; Alice (4) = Sir Robert Clifton and Lucy (5) = Sir Edward
Weever.
Thomas is shown there as son of John and Loretta. The intervening
generation (Robert) does not appear.
This is a large and detailed pedigree that you probably want to
consult. AFAIK it is not available online.
Robert Worsley is identified there as Robert de Workedly and I had
failed to make the connection. Thank you for that. It's obvious in
retrospect.
HoP presumably stands for History of Parliament, but could you give
some details please? Yours is not amongst the ones I have. Thomas and Ellen
are my 16G grandparents and I thought John and Loretta were my 17G
grandparents.
Best,
Ken
mj...@btinternet.com
> Michael,
>
> I think it is VCH Lancs IV:366 which gives additional children to this
> family:
Thanks for the heads-up, Hap.
> Additional Sons:
> Thurstan, Robert and Roger
I see n 38 refers to a 1355 confirmation of a ?1345 grant to Thomas de
Booth, Ellen his wife, and Thurstan and Robert his sons; n80 states
that Thomas del Booth acquired certain rights at Barton in 1348, and
that "Thurstan son of Thomas de Booth" made a claim in respect of them
in 1359. Roger son of Thomas del Booth ff 1362 is also mentioned in n
38.
> Additional Daughters:
> Alice, Anne (or Elizabeth) and Margaret
I haven't been able to locate the reference to the daughters, but
doubtless Baines will be a good place to look.
> P. S. I believe Thomas' mother is Agnes de Notton, daughter of Gilbert
> de Notton and Cecily _____.
VCH Lancs op. cit. (n 37) refers to Agnes widow of Robert del Booth
who was living in 1354. I seem to recall that Thomas mentions his
mother in his will of 1368, implying that she was still living. This
would mean she was Robert's widow. The identification of her with
this Agnes therefore seems likely.
However (n 38) a grant of 1345 to Thomas son of Robert del Booth also
mentioned "John his brother, son of Emma de Bury". The most plausible
explanation of this is that John was an illegitimate son of Robert del
Booth, for Thomas was certainly his father's heir, and his mother was
Robert's widow.
I think the reference to this Agnes being the daughter of Gilbert de
Notton might represent a conflation with an earlier generation: the
mother of Loretta, wife of John del Booth [grandparents of Thomas del
Booth] was Agnes the daughter of Gilbert de Notton, called de Barton,
and Cecily his wife (see n 31).
Thanks again for all your generous help.
Best wishes, Michael
mj...@btinternet.com
> Michael,
> Edward Baines, History of ...Lancaster, Vol III chart facing p113
> has William (not shown as eldest son), John, with two marriages, the first
> to Maud, d of Sir John Savage of Clifton and with Lawrence shown as
> legitimate son, the second to Joan d of Sir Henry Trafford of Trafford, with
> one more son than you mention. You mentioned five of your six, the others
> were Richard (4th), of Strickland, and Ralph, seventh son.
>
> Also marriages for Joan (2) = (a) Sir Thomas Shirburn and (b) Sir
> Thomas Southworth; Alice (4) = Sir Robert Clifton and Lucy (5) = Sir Edward
> Weever.
>
> Thomas is shown there as son of John and Loretta. The intervening
> generation (Robert) does not appear.
>
> This is a large and detailed pedigree that you probably want to
> consult. AFAIK it is not available online.
>
> Robert Worsley is identified there as Robert de Workedly and I had
> failed to make the connection. Thank you for that. It's obvious in
> retrospect.
>
> HoP presumably stands for History of Parliament, but could you give
> some details please? Yours is not amongst the ones I have. Thomas and Ellen
> are my 16G grandparents and I thought John and Loretta were my 17G
> grandparents.
>
> Best,
> Ken
Hi Ken
Delighted to have the opportunity to return some of the many favours
you have extended to me and others here, although I suspect I will
still remain in your debt.
The HoP references are from 'History of Parliament, 1386-1421' by
Roskell et al. Volume 2 contains good biographies of both John (d
1422) and Henry (d 1446). The former is at pages 291-293, and the
latter at pages 288-291. They are both by Carole Rawcliffe. I will
happily scan them and email them to you if they might be of interest
to you - please let me know.
VCH Lancs 4 as cited by Hap makes it clear that Thomas del Booth was
the son of Robert; Robert was the son of John and Loretta. This may
be seen here:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=41441
There are good details of the early history of the Worsley family,
correcting the slight errors in the 1664 Visitation, in the contiguous
entry for Worsley in the same volume.
HoP only records one marriage for John del Booth (d 1422) - to Joan,
daughter of Henry de Trafford. ODNB states that Laurence was John's
illegitimate son - ie not a son by a marriage to "Maud Savage"; it
cites the papal dispensation allowing him to take holy orders despite
being illegitimate (biography by A.J. Pollard). Additionally, he was
very much a younger brother to the legitimate children - certainly not
the eldest.
Archbishop William Booth's will may be found in Test. Ebor. vol II,
#CCIX, pp 264-267; there are some references to his family in the text
and the notes, but nothing that has not already been covered above.
Best wishes, Michael
mj...@btinternet.com
>
> I think it is VCH Lancs IV:366 which gives additional children to this
> family:
>
> Additional Sons:
> Thurstan, Robert and Roger
>
> Additional Daughterts:
> Alice, Anne (or Elizabeth) and Margaret
I am greatly indebted to Rosie Bevan, who has once again demonstrated
her collegiality and mastery of the subject by forwarding me a
veritable compendium of Booth material.
Amongst this is the transcript from Baines of Thomas Booth's will. In
it, he names his sons William, John and Henry; his brother John de
Bury ['Berri'], whom we can presumably now safely conclude was
illegitimate; "the wife of Gilbert de Culcheth", whom we know was his
daughter Katherine; "the wife of John le Massy", who may well have
been another daughter, and his wife Ellen.
He also names Alice, Margaret, Agnes, Roger, Richard and Thomas,
children of "Thomas del Booth" [it is unclear whether these are his
children, or the children of a namesake].
MA-R
Nancy L. Allen
Pilkington's History of the Pilkington Family of Lancashire and Its
Branches, from 1066 to 1600 (Liverpool: 1912), p. 52, has a pedigree of the
Assheton family showing that "Thomas Boothe, a son of Thomas del Boothe, of
Barton" married Katherine, daughter of "Sir John Assheton of
Ashton-under-Lyne" and his wife who was "a daughter of Sir Robert Standish
of Standish."
Does anyone know how this Thomas Boothe who married Katherine Assheton fits
into the Booth line?
Nancy