Sir Anthony Cope

[Hal Bradley]

Faris, David, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists
(Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999. [2nd
Edition], p. 155 lists Ursula Cope, wife of John D'Oyley, as the
daughter of Anthony Cope, Knt., Bart., of Hanwell. Does anyone know
Anthony's ancestry? Thank you.

Hal Bradley

[John Steele Gordon]

"Hal Bradley" <hwbr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Elizabeth Cope (see Faris, p. 80) had a brother named Anthony, who died
before Dec. 22, 1558. This Cope family was from Northamptonshire, not far
from Oxfordshire, where Hanwell is. But this would give Priscilla D'Oyley a
descent from Edward I through this Anthony Cope's mother, Bridget Raleigh,
so it should have been mentioned by Faris. Needless to say, I have no idea
if this was an oversight on the part of Faris or whether it is some other
Anthony Cope.

Also, since Priscilla D'Oyley was born about 1593, her grandfather would
have been born, say, 1533. Faris says he was a baronet, but he would have
been, say, 78 when the first baronetcies were handed out by James I in May,
1611. Not impossible by any means, but it makes me wonder if he was really a
baronet.

JSG

[Ed Mann]

John Steele Gordon wrote:
>
> "Hal Bradley" <hwbr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:3B4856C5...@earthlink.net...

> Elizabeth Cope (see Faris, p. 80) had a brother named Anthony, who died
> before Dec. 22, 1558. This Cope family was from Northamptonshire, not far
> from Oxfordshire, where Hanwell is. But this would give Priscilla D'Oyley a
> descent from Edward I through this Anthony Cope's mother, Bridget Raleigh,
> so it should have been mentioned by Faris. Needless to say, I have no idea
> if this was an oversight on the part of Faris or whether it is some other
> Anthony Cope.
>
> Also, since Priscilla D'Oyley was born about 1593, her grandfather would
> have been born, say, 1533. Faris says he was a baronet, but he would have
> been, say, 78 when the first baronetcies were handed out by James I in May,
> 1611. Not impossible by any means, but it makes me wonder if he was really a
> baronet.
>
> JSG

Here's an alternative view from Gary Boyd Roberts:

Direct Descendants of Henry Spencer

1 Henry Spencer d: Abt. 1477 ref #: AAP:239
+Isabella Lincoln ref #: AAP:239
2 Sir John Spencer ref #: AAP:239
+Anne Empson ref #: AAP:239
3 Jane Spencer ref #: AAP:239
+William Cope ref #: AAP:239
4 Anthony Cope ref #: AAP:239
+Jane Crews ref #: AAP:239
5 Edward Cope ref #: AAP:239
+Elizabeth Mohun ref #: AAP:239
6 Ursula Cope ref #: AAP:239

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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@earthlink.net

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
NK2 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_Two_, [page].
Π= Hardy, Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America, [pg].
PA = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, 2d ed. [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat lector.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat lector.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page] Caveat lector.

[Rosie Bevan]

Hi Hal

It was Ursula's brother, Sir Anthony Cope, who was made an baronet on 29th
June 1611.
Ursula's father was Edward Cope 1519-1557.
Ed Mann's descent is correct.

Cheers

Rosie

[K. Williams]

Hello,

Per the 1959 edition of Burke's (pp. 534-535) Sir Anthony Cope, 1st
Nt. was b. 1549 & bur. 7/23/1615 having been created a bt. 6/29/1611. He
m. (1) Frances, dau. of Rowland Lytton, of Knebworth (bur. 1/13/1600-1)
and (2) 4/7/1606 Anne, dau. of Sir William Paston of Paston (bur/
8/2/1637).

1. Ursula Cope. (not in Burke's but it does say Sir Anthony had "other
issue."

2. Sir Anthony Cope, 1st Bt. (see above).
3. Frances Lytton.

4. Edward Cope, of Hanwell. b. 1517. d. 6/20/1557.
5. Elizabeth Mohun.
6. Rowland Lytton, of Knebworth. d. 1582.
7. Margaret Tate.

8. Sir Anthony Cope, of Hanwell, Northants. d. 1/6/1550-1.
9. Jane, dau. of Matthew Crews, of Pynne, Devon.
10. Walter Mohun, of Wollaston, Northants.
11.
12. William de Lytton, of Knebworth.
13. Audrey, dau. of Sir Philip Booth, of Shrubland Hall, Suffolk.
14. John Tate, of Calais.
15.

Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams

[Rosie Bevan]

The Ursula Cope who married Sir John D'Oyly was born in 1554 and was
mentioned in the will of her godfather Sir John Wolsley who died in 1557 (as
was her grandfather Walter Mohun). She (and Sir Alexander) were also
mentioned in the will of their grandfather Walter Mohun d 1566. "And where
my late sonne in lawe Edward Coope Esquier deceased did by his last will and
testament devise to his iii daughters named Margaret Jane and Ursula his
stoke of govd make ---the Increase thearof for a tyme to be eqally divided
amongst them" As she and Sir John D'Oyly were married in 1573, she could not
possibly have been daughter of Sir Alexander Cope, Bart who was born in
1549.

Cheers

Rosie

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[Don McArthur]

According to Complete Baronetage No 7 was Anne, dau of George Carleton, of
Brightwell, Oxon

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