Clement Villiers of Hothorpe born 1495

[Will Johnson]

There is an Escheat (5H8 n 42) for Edward Villiers of Hothorpe who d 26 Jun 1513. I have not seen the original but is has been described as stating that Clement, his heir was "aged 17 1/2"

https://books.google.com/books?id=f-A_AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA830
"aged 17 1/12" at his father's death

While looking for details on the life of Clement, I could find almost nothing, so I went looking for his other family and discovered him by accident under Vyllers

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4456870
Clement Vyllers, Gent 1539

From this document we can see that he was apparently sharing (?) responsibility for the court baron with firstly Sir Thomas Pulteney.

We identify this man as that one of Misterton Leics, m Anne Shirley and had at least two sons and three daughters : Agnes, Elizabeth, Francis (male), Richard and Rose

We can see, if this is him, that he must have died exactly in 1539/40 as his son Francis esq then takes over the court baron jointly.

Leo has this man apparently dead in 1507 which must be I suggest, his *father*. Otherwise the possibility that this Sir Thomas, was a son of another Sir Thomas of Misterton. I haven't explored all of these possibilities.

This also gives us the information that Francis Pulteney was yet living in 1542 but we know he was probate in 1544

[John Higgins]

Francis Pulteney died 1 Edward VI.

Sir Thomas Pulteney (d. 1507) in Genealogics was the father of the Sir Thomas Pulteney who married Anne Shirley.

Both the senior Sir Thomas Pulteney (but not his son) and Clement Villiers are ancestral to Princes William and Harry.

[BTW - and totally OT - Time magazine, in its current issue, lists among the "100 Most Influential People" (wait for it) Prince Harry and Meghan. Further comment would be inappropriate here.]

[Will Johnson]

And also ancestral to Sarah Ferguson Duchess of York
William Ponsonby, 2nd Earl of /Bessborough/ 1758-1793
appears in her chart at 506

while his younger brother John is eight generations behind Princess Diana

It helps for Harry and Meghan to be considered influential that he is sexier than his brother.

[Thomas Dudley-Bonnett]

Hello, I know this is an old post, but do we know the children of Clement or his sisters?
I'm trying to find the parentage of 'Margaret Villiers of Hothorpe, in the parish of Thedingworth as she is listed in the family pedigree of Cotton of Laughton and Dadlington as compiled by Nicholls for his History of Leicestershire'. She marries Edward Cotton, Lord of the Manor of Laughton, Leicestershire. Edward dies 1617 Laughton, and his children are listed being born in the period of the 1560s, so a birthdate of c1530s I would perhaps guess at for Margaret but I cant find anything of her parentage. It seems she would perhaps be to young to be a sister of Clement, given he was 17 and a half in 1513.
Do we know the other Villiers who were at Hothorpe? In the 1530s?

[Andrew Z]

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 3:54:56 PM UTC-4, Thomas Dudley-Bonnett wrote:

> Do we know the other Villiers who were at Hothorpe? In the 1530s?

Hi Thomas,

Here are some sources relating to the Villiers of Hothorpe that I've come across previously:

The Visitation of the County of Leicester in the Year 1619 https://books.google.ca/books?id=Lr4KAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA31#v=onepage&q&f=false

Lincolnshire Pedigrees, Volume 52 by Arthur Roland Maddison,1904 https://books.google.ca/books?id=IPcMAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1029-IA2#v=onepage&q&f=false

The history and antiquities of the county of Leicester : Vol. 2, Part 2 by John Nichols, 1798, pg. 830 http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p15407coll6/id/5332

The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicestershire by John Nichols, London, 1795–1815. Volume III, page 198 http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p15407coll6/id/6492

The History of Market Harborough by John Harwood Hill, 1875, pg. 284 https://books.google.ca/books?id=7PxGAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA284#v=onepage&q&f=false

History, topography, and directory of Northamptonshire, by Francis Whellan ,1874, pg. 310 https://www.google.ca/books/edition/History_topography_and_directory_of_Nort/NRAHAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA310&printsec=frontcover

All the best,

Andrew

[Thomas Dudley-Bonnett]

Thank you for your reply.
I had seen those links before but all are unfortunately silent of any mention of a Margaret Villiers nor do they list any other Villiers at Hothorpe than Clement in the time frame.