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Brett Payne

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Sep 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/21/98
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My wife is descended from the BIGOD family of Framlingham, Norfolk and
Settrington, Yorkshire, and subsequently the BYGOTTs of Barton-on-Humber,
Lincolnshire (Yeoman Farmers), as shown below. If anyone has any interest
in this surname, or has perhaps come across any relevant information, I'd
be grateful to hear from you.
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Regards and best wishes,

Brett Payne
ge...@harare.iafrica.com
Linden Grange Farm, P.O. Box 6474, Harare, Zimbabwe

1 Toustein (Le Goz) Vicomte 989/1000 - Aft 1041 m: Judith of Montanolier
2 Robert BIGOD 1015 - 1071
3 Robert/Roger BIGOD 1036 - ?? m: Daughter DE SAINT SAVEUR
4 Roger BIGOD 1045/57 - 1107
5 Hugh BIGOD 1st Earl of Norfolk 1102 - 1177/78 m: Julia/Juliana/Juliane
DE VERE
6 Roger BIGOD 2nd Earl of Norfolk 1148 - Bef 1221 m: Isabel/Isabella/Ida
DE WARENNE
7 Hugh BIGOD 3rd Earl of Norfolk c. 1186 - 1224/25 m: Maud/Matilda
MARSHALL
8 Hugh BIGOD Chief Justiciar of England 1215/23 - 1266 m: Joan DE
STUTEVILLE
9 John BIGOD 1240/66 - 1305/06 m: Isabel
10 Roger BIGOD c. 1300 - 1362 m: Joan
11 John BIGOD 1334 - 1389 m: Alice DE CROPHULL
12 John BIGOD 1376 - 1450 m: Constance MAULEY
13 Ralph BIGOD 1410/34 - 1461 m: Anne DE GREYSTOKE
14 Peter BIGOT c. 1458 - ???
15 Ralph BIGOT
16 Peter BIGOT 1529 - 1596
17 Robert BYGOTT m: Helen/Hellen TYRWHITT
18 Robert BYGOTT m2: Rebecca BURGAN
19 George BYGOTT Bef 1674 - 1732 m: Susannah SMITH
20 James BYGOTT Bef 1708/09 - ??? m: Elizabeth
21 James BYGOTT Bef 1750 - 1810 m: Mary SUTTON
22 Elizabeth (Eliza) BYGOTT 1800 - 1870 m: 1821 William PORTER


C.V. Compton Shaw

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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I am descended from Roger Bigod and Hugh Bigod, his son. They were both
Suretys for the Magna Charta. Their descendants and my ancestors follow:
The daughter of Hugh Bigod, Isabel Bigod who married John FitzGeoffrey;
Their daughter, Maud FitzJohn-William de Beauchamp; their daughter
Isabel Beauchamp-Patrick Chaworth; their daughter Maud Chaworth-Henry
Plantagenet, Earl of Lancaster.Henry Plantagent was, also, known as
Edmund Crouchback and was the younger son of Henry III and brother of
King Edward I. The House of Lancaster acquired the British throne when
it overthrew Richard III claiming that Edmund Crouchback, my ancestor,
had actually been the elder son of Henry III, a clear fiction. However,
getting rid of Richard III is a credit to my ancestors as his rule was
tyrannous and oppresive.
Mr. C.V. Compton Shaw, Member Somerset Chapter Magna Charta Barons

C.V. Compton Shaw

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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My Ancestors included Roger and Hugh Bigod also. They were both Suretys
for the Magna Charta.
Hugh Bigod
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Isabel Bigod (daughter of Hugh)- John FitzGeoffrey
Maud FitzJohn-William de Beauchamp
Isabel Beauchamp-Patrick Chaworth
Maud Chaworth- Henry Plantagent, Earl of Lancaster (Edmund Crouchback)
The above were my ancestors.
"Lancaster, House of, English royal dynasty that included three
monarchs,----. The name originated in 1267, when Henry III conferred the
title of Earl of Lancaster on his second son, Edmund Crouchback."
"Henry VII of England, often called Henry Tudor,king of England, and
first ruler of the house of Tudor, who reign initiated a period of
national unity following the strife of the 15th century. Henry, the son
of Edmund Tudor, earl of Richmond (1430?-56), and Margaret Beaufort,
countess of Richmond and Derby ( a direct descendant of John of Gaunt,
duke of Lancaster) was born on January 28, 1457, in Pembroke Castle,
Pembrokeshire. After the Yorkist king Edward IV seized the throne from
the Lancasterian Henry VI in 1471, Henry Tudor, a Lancasterian, took
refuge in Bretagne. He became head of the house of Lancaster on the
death of Henry VI in the same year.---- In 1485, at Bosworth Field in
England, he met and defeated Richard (III), who was killed during the
battle. Henry Tudor was subsequently crowned Henry VII in London."
Source:"Henry VII of England" and " Lancaster, House of" Microsoft
Encarta 98 Encyclopedia 1993-1997.
I am very proud of the fact that my ancestors started the Lancasterian
line of British Kings and Family that defeated the infamous Richard III
at the Battle of Bosworth Field.

James P. Robinson III

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Oct 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/2/98
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At 09:33 PM 9/28/98 -0500, C.V. Compton Shaw wrote:
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. However,
>getting rid of Richard III is a credit to my ancestors as his rule was
>tyrannous and oppresive.

Maybe so, maybe not. This is a point of real contention, as most of the
popular view of RIII is based upon the Shakespeare play. To quote somebody
or other, "History is written by the victors." (I think that was Benjamin
Franklin.) In any event, history is seldom so cut and dried. There is
even a learned society whose goal is the historical rehabilitation of RIII.

>Mr. C.V. Compton Shaw, Member Somerset Chapter Magna Charta Barons
>

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James P. Robinson III

jpro...@ix.netcom.com
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C.V. Compton Shaw

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Nov 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/1/98
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Given Richard III's birthdate and his natal horoscope, the popular
highly unfavorable description of him as a tyrannt and criminal is most
credible, if you believe in the tenets of astrology.
Richard III, Act I; Scene I ( by William Shakespeare):
Enter Richard, Duke of Gloucester (afterwards Richard III):
"Now is the winter of our discontent,
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour'd upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bount with victorious wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry mreetings,
Our dreadful marches to delightful measures.
Grim-visaged war hath smooth'd his wrinkled front;
And now, instead of mounting barbed steeds
To fight the souls of fearful adversaries,
He capers nimbly in a lady's chamber
To the lascivious pleasing of a lute.
But I, that am not shaped for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp'd, and want love's majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nympth;
I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deform'd, unfinish'd, sent before my time
Into this breathing world, scrace half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me as I halt by then;
Why, I, on this weak piping time of peace,
Have no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to spy my shadow in the sun,
And descant on mine own deformity:
And therefore, since I cannot prove to be a lover,
To entertain these well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain,
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams,
To set my brother Clarence and the king
In deadly hate one against the other:
And if King Edward be as true and just
As I am subtle, false and treacherous,
This day should Clarence closely be mew'd up,
About a prophecy, which says that G
Of Edwards Heirs the murdered shall be.
Dive, thoughts, down to my soul:
here Clarence comes."

I am descended from Henry Plantagenet, Earl of Lancaster, who
established the Lancasterian line of English Kings and whose descendants
eventually defeated Richard III at the battle of Bosworth Field. Richard
III was the last member of the York line to hold the English throne. The
Lancaster family won the War of the Roses between the Yorks and the
Lancasters at the Battle of Bosworth Field.

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