Clementia de Foix ' older generations
Leo Akershoek
> Ancestors of Catalina de Foix
> ...(snip)...
I am looking for the ancestors of:
Clementia de Foix
The only information I have on her is (almost nothing):
She was married to Adelbert of Longwy, who was born about 1003 and died in
1048. He was a son of Gerard de Loraine and of Gisela of Metz (if my
information is correct.)
Who can give my information on the ancestors of:
1. - Clementia de Foix and of her father-in-law:
2. - Gerald de Loraine
,
John Carmi Parsons
following:
Adalbert or Albert, duke of Upper Lorraine and lord of Longwy d. 1048, husband
of Clemence de Foix fl. 1035, was the son of Gerard count of Metz and his wife
Gisella. (Adalbert was thus a brother of Gerard, who succeeded him as duke of
Upper Lorraine 1048-70 and is the ancestor of all later dukes of Lorraine and
the present house of Habsburg-Lorraine).
Bur believes that Adalbert's parents, Count Gerard of Metz and Gisella, were
first cousins. Gerard was the son of a Count Adalbert d. bef. 1030 and
his wife Judith (no family), while Gisella was the daughter of this Count
Adalbert's brother Count Gerard of Metz fl. 1030 by his wife Eve, daughter
of Count Sigfroi of Luxembourg and Hedwig, who belonged to the family of
the counts of Ardennes.
Bur makes the brothers Adalbert d. bef. 1030 and Gerard fl. 1030 sons of a
count Richard or Richer of Metz fl. 968-86. Michel Parisse's _Noblesse et
Chevalerie de Lorraine_ (1982), however, notes another Count Gerard in this
region in the last part of the 10th century and suggests that either Richer or
Gerard could have been the father of Adalbert d. bef. 1030 and Gerard fl. 1030.
(Some authorities state that this Adalbert d. 1033 and Gerard sometime between
1021 and 1033, and add to their family a sister, Adelaide, wife of Count Henry
of the Speyergau d. 989 and by him mother of the Emperor Conrad II.)
Parisse, building on earlier work by Maurice Chaume and Leon Vanderkindere,
takes the line further back by making either Count Richer or Count Gerard
a son (or sons) of a Matfried/Matfroi, son of Count Adalbert (of Metz?) d.
944 by Liutgarde, daughter of Count Wigeric of the Bidgau. This Adalbert d.
944 is known as the brother of Bishop Bernouin/Barnouin of Verdun fl. 928-39.
Parisse and others agree in making Adalbert d. 944 and Bernouin sons of a
yet earlier Count Matfroi of Metz fl. 897, d. ca 930 (some say in 926) and
his wife Lantsind, a sister of Bishop Dadon of Verdun fl. 880-923. Matfroi
husband of Lantsind was brother of Abbot Richer of Prum, later bp of Liege
920-45, and of a Count Gerard d. 910, husband of Uda of Saxony the widow
of King Zwentibold of the Germans.
Parisse does not extent this line any further, but Chaume et al. make Matfroi
husband of Lantsind the son of a Count Matfroi fl. 867 (d. by 882?), who was
in turn son of a Count Matfroi of the Eiffelgau fl. 843-59 and perhaps as late
as 867. Said Count Matfroi of the Eiffelgau was the son Count Matfroi of
Orleans (d. 836) by NF, daughter of Count Leuthard of Paris, a son of the
well-known Count Begon-Conrad of Paris (d. 816) by a first wife named Guiburg
(NOT by Begon-Conrad's second wife Alpais, who was an OOW daughter probably of
Louis the Pious, though also perhaps of Charlemagne himself according to
some authorities.)
Either Chaume or Vanderkindere suggested that Matfroi d. 836 had a sister Ava,
wife of Count Hugh of Tours d. 834, and mother of Adelaide wife of Robert the
Strong d. 866. That same Matfroi's wife's sister, another daughter of Leuthard
of Paris, married Count Eudes of Orleans d. 834 and was presumably mother of
Ermentrude, wife of Charles the Bald. Like the pre-Capetians from the time of
Robert the Strong, then, the line of counts believed to be ancestors of the
dukes of Lorraine probably benefited from their female relatives' marriages.
Schwennicke, vol. 6 table 129, follows the above but gives descendants of
the Count Gerard d. 910 by Uda of Saxony.
I hope this is of some help.
John Parsons
ED MANN
>
> ED MANN was so kind as to give us five generations of:
>
> > Ancestors of Catalina de Foix
> > ...(snip)...
>
> I am looking for the ancestors of:
>
> Clementia de Foix
>
Here's another starter for you, with sources where available:
Direct Descendants of Henry II of England
1 [1] King Henry II of England aka: "Curtmantel" b: 25 Mar 1133 d: 8
Jul 1189 ref #: F222:17
*2nd Wife of [1] Henry II of England:
*3rd Wife of [1] Henry II of England:
+Éléanore d'Aquitaine b: 1123 d: 31 Mar 1204 ref #: Ä110-26
2 Alainor Plantagenet b: 13 Oct 1162 d: 25 Oct 1214 ref #: F222:17vi
+King Alfonso VIII de Castile b: 11 Nov 1155 d: 5 Oct 1214 ref #:
Ä113-27
3 Berenguela de Castile aka: Berengaria de Castile b: 1180 d: 8 Nov
1246 ref #: Ä113-28
+King Alfonso IX de León b: 1166 d: 24 Sep 1230 ref #: Ä114-27
4 King Fernando III de León-Castile aka: "Fernando the Saint" b: 1191
d: 30 May 1252 ref #: Ä110-29
+Joan de Dammartin aka: Joan de Dammartin b: Abt. 1214 d: 16 Mar
1278/79 ref #: Ä109-30
5 [52] Princess Alianore de Castile b: 1240 d: 28 Nov 1290 ref #:
Ä110-30
+[51] King Edward I of England aka: "Longshanks" b: 17 Jun 1239 d:
1307 ref #: BRF:81
6 [2] Alianor Plantagenet b: 17 Jun 1264 d: 12 Oct 1298 ref #:
F226:14v
*2nd Husband of [2] Alianor Plantagenet:
+Count Henri III de Bar d: 1302 ref #: (BRF:81)
7 [40] Eduard I de Bar d: 1337
+[39] Marie de Bourgogne
8 Henri IV de Bar d: 1344
+Jolantha de Flanders d: 13 Dec 1395
9 [30] Robert I de Bar b: Abt. 1340 d: 12 Apr 1411
+[29] Marie de France b: 18 Sep 1344 d: Oct 1404
10 [48] Yolande de Bar d: 13 Jul 1431
+[47] Juan I de Aragon y Valencia b: 27 Dec 1350 d: 19 May 1395
11 [26] Jolantha de Aragon b: 1384 d: 14 Dec 1443
+[25] Rey Ludivico II di Napoli b: 1377 d: 1417
12 [24] Marie de Anjou aka: Maria di Napoli b: 1404 d: 1463
+[23] King Charles VII de France aka: "Charles the Well-Served" b:
1403 d: 1461
13 [5] Madelaine de France b: 1 Dec 1443 d: Aft. 1485
+[4] Gaston de Foix aka: Gaston de Viana
14 Queen Catalina de Foix aka: Catalina de Navarre b: 1470 d: 1517
5 [9] Alfonso X de León-Castile b: 23 Nov 1221 d: 1284
+Maria Guillén de Guzman aka: Mayor Guillén de Guzman d: 1262
6 [17] Beatrix de Castile b: 1242 d: 27 Oct 1303
+[16] King Alfonso III de Portugal y Algarve d: 1279
7 King Dinis de Portugal aka: "Dinis the Farmer" b: 9 Oct 1261 d: 7
Jan 1324/25
+Princess Isabel de Aragon aka: "St. Elizabeth" b: 1271 d: 1336
8 [13] Constance de Portugal b: 1290 d: 1313
+[12] King Fernando IV de León-Castile b: 1285 d: 1312
9 [8] King Alfonso XI de León-Castile b: 1311 d: 26 Mar 1350
+Eleanora de Guzman b: 1310 d: 1351
10 [11] King Enrique II de León-Castile b: 1334 d: 29 May 1379
+[10] Juana Manuel de Castilla aka: Juana de Peñafiel b: 1339 d:
27 Mar 1381
11 [19] Leonor de Trastamara b: 1352 d: 1416
+[18] King Carlos II de Navarre b: 1361 d: 1425
12 [3] Queen Blanca de Navarre aka: Blanca II de Navarre d: 1441
*2nd Husband of [3] Blanca de Navarre:
+[6] King Juan II de Aragon aka: Juan of Trastamara b: 1397 d:
1479
13 Queen Leonor de Navarre aka: Queen of Navarre b: 1420 d: 1479
+Gaston IV de Foix de Bigorre
14 [4] Gaston de Foix aka: Gaston de Viana
+[5] Madelaine de France b: 1 Dec 1443 d: Aft. 1485
11 [7] King Juan I de Castile b: 24 Aug 1358 d: 9 Oct 1390
+[49] Princess Leonor de Aragon b: 20 Feb 1357/58 d: 13 Sep 1382
12 King Fernando I de Aragon aka: Fernando de Antequera b: 1380 d:
1416
+Leonor Urraca de Castilla de Albuquerque
13 [6] King Juan II de Aragon aka: Juan of Trastamara b: 1397 d: 1479
+[3] Queen Blanca de Navarre aka: Blanca II de Navarre d: 1441
*2nd Wife of [6] Juan II de Aragon:
*2nd Wife of [7] Juan I de Castile:
*2nd Wife of [8] Alfonso XI de León-Castile:
*3rd Wife of [8] Alfonso XI de León-Castile:
*2nd Wife of [9] Alfonso X de León-Castile:
+Violante de Aragon b: 1236 d: Abt. 1301
6 [36] Fernando de la Cerda b: 4 Jan 1255/56 d: 25 Jul 1275
+[35] Blanche de France b: 1253 d: 17 Jun 1320
7 Fernando II de la Cerda
+Juana Nuñez de Lara d: 1350
8 Blanka de la Cerda d: Abt. 1350
+Juan II Manuel de Castilla d: 1348
9 Juan III Manuel de Castilla
+Constanza de Aragon
10 [10] Juana Manuel de Castilla aka: Juana de Peñafiel b: 1339 d: 27
Mar 1381
+[11] King Enrique II de León-Castile b: 1334 d: 29 May 1379
6 [15] King Sancho IV de León-Castile b: 12 May 1258 d: 1295
+[14] Maria Alfonsa de Molina d: 17 Jul 1321
7 [12] King Fernando IV de León-Castile b: 1285 d: 1312
+[13] Constance de Portugal b: 1290 d: 1313
4 Alfonso de Castile b: Abt. 1203 d: 6 Jan 1271/72
+Mayor Alfonso de Meneses aka: Señora de Montealegre
5 [14] Maria Alfonsa de Molina d: 17 Jul 1321
+[15] King Sancho IV de León-Castile b: 12 May 1258 d: 1295
3 Urraca de Castile b: 1185 d: 3 Nov 1220
+King Alfonso II de Portugal d: 1223
4 [16] King Alfonso III de Portugal y Algarve d: 1279
+[17] Beatrix de Castile b: 1242 d: 27 Oct 1303
3 Blanca de Castile b: 4 Mar 1187/88 d: 27 Nov 1252 ref #: Ä113-28
+King Louis VIII de France aka: "Louis the Lion" b: 5 Sep 1187 d:
8 Nov 1226 ref #: Ä101-27
4 King Louis IX de France aka: "Saint Louis" b: 25 Apr 1215 d: 25 Aug
1270 ref #: S70-26
+Marguerite de Provence b: 1221 d: 21 Dec 1295 ref #: S93-25
5 [34] King Philippe III de France aka: "Philippe the Bold", King of
France b: 1 May 1245 d: 5 Oct 1285 ref #: Ä101-29
+Isabella de Aragon b: Abt. 1245 d: 28 Jan 1270/71 ref #: Ä105-30
6 [42] King Philippe IV de France aka: "Philippe the Fair" b: 1268 d:
29 Nov 1314 ref #: Ä101-30
+[41] Jeanne I de Navarre b: Jan 1271/72 d: 2 Apr 1305 ref #:
Ä45-31
7 [20] King Louis X de France aka: "Louis the Headstrong" b: 4 Oct
1289 d: 5 Jun 1316
+[37] Marguerite de Bourgogne b: 1290 d: 14 Aug 1315
8 [22] Queen Jeanne II de Navarre b: 28 Jan 1310/11 d: 6 Oct 1349
+[21] Count Philippe III de Evreux aka: King Philip III de Navarre
b: 1301 d: 1343
9 [28] King Carlos I de Navarre aka: "Carlos the Bad" b: Abt. 1332 d:
1387 ref #: BxP:163
+[27] Jeanne de France b: 1343 d: 1373
10 [18] King Carlos II de Navarre b: 1361 d: 1425
+[19] Leonor de Trastamara b: 1352 d: 1416
*2nd Wife of [20] Louis X de France:
6 [45] Comte Louis de Evreux d: 1319 ref #: (EC1:57)
+[44] Margarete d'Artois b: 1285 d: 24 Apr 1311 ref #: (EC1:57)
7 [21] Count Philippe III de Evreux aka: King Philip III de Navarre
b: 1301 d: 1343
+[22] Queen Jeanne II de Navarre b: 28 Jan 1310/11 d: 6 Oct 1349
6 [33] Count Charles de Valois aka: Comte de Alencon b: 12 Mar
1270/71 d: 16 Dec 1325 ref #: ESii:12
+[46] Marguerite d'Anjou de Siciles d: 1299 ref #: Ä103-32
7 [32] King Philippe VI de France b: 1293 d: 22 Aug 1350
+[38] Jeanne de Bourgogne b: 1293
8 [31] King Jean II de France b: 26 Apr 1319 d: 8 Apr 1364
+Jutta de Luxemburg aka: Jutta von Böhmen-Luxemburg b: 1315 d:
1349
9 King Charles V de France b: 1337 d: 1380
+Jeanne de Bourbon
10 King Charles VI de France aka: "Charles the Mad" b: 3 Dec 1368 d:
21 Oct 1422
+Isabel von Wittelsbach aka: Isabel von Bayern b: 1369 d: 24 Sep
1435
11 [23] King Charles VII de France aka: "Charles the Well-Served" b:
1403 d: 1461
+[24] Marie de Anjou aka: Maria di Napoli b: 1404 d: 1463
9 Rey Louis I de Anjou aka: Ludivico I di Napoli b: 23 Jul 1339 d: 22
Sep 1384
+Marie de Guise de Chatillon
10 [25] Rey Ludivico II di Napoli b: 1377 d: 1417
+[26] Jolantha de Aragon b: 1384 d: 14 Dec 1443
9 [27] Jeanne de France b: 1343 d: 1373
+[28] King Carlos I de Navarre aka: "Carlos the Bad" b: Abt. 1332
d: 1387 ref #: BxP:163
9 [29] Marie de France b: 18 Sep 1344 d: Oct 1404
+[30] Robert I de Bar b: Abt. 1340 d: 12 Apr 1411
*2nd Wife of [31] Jean II de France:
*2nd Wife of [32] Philippe VI de France:
*2nd Wife of [33] Charles de Valois:
*3rd Wife of [33] Charles de Valois:
*2nd Wife of [34] Philippe III de France:
5 [35] Blanche de France b: 1253 d: 17 Jun 1320
+[36] Fernando de la Cerda b: 4 Jan 1255/56 d: 25 Jul 1275
5 Agnes de France b: 1260 d: 19 Dec 1327
+Robert II de Bourgogne b: 1248
6 [37] Marguerite de Bourgogne b: 1290 d: 14 Aug 1315
+[20] King Louis X de France aka: "Louis the Headstrong" b: 4 Oct
1289 d: 5 Jun 1316
6 [38] Jeanne de Bourgogne b: 1293
+[32] King Philippe VI de France b: 1293 d: 22 Aug 1350
6 [39] Marie de Bourgogne
+[40] Eduard I de Bar d: 1337
4 Count Robert I de Artois b: Sep 1216 d: 9 Feb 1249/50 ref #:
Ä113-29
+Matilda de Brabant aka: Mahaut de Brabant b: Abt. 1224 d: 29 Sep
1288 ref #: Ä45-29
5 [43] Blanche de Artois b: Abt. 1248 d: 2 May 1302 ref #: Ä45-30
+King Henry I de Navarre b: Abt. 1244 d: 22 Jul 1274 ref #:
(Ä45-30)
6 [41] Jeanne I de Navarre b: Jan 1271/72 d: 2 Apr 1305 ref #:
Ä45-31
+[42] King Philippe IV de France aka: "Philippe the Fair" b: 1268
d: 29 Nov 1314 ref #: Ä101-30
*2nd Husband of [43] Blanche de Artois:
5 Robert II de Artois aka: Comte de Artois b: Abt. 1250 d: 11 Jul
1302
+Amicie de Courtenay
6 [54] Philippe d'Artois d: 11 Sep 1298
+[53] Blanche de Bretagne b: Abt. 1270 d: 19 Mar 1326/27
7 [44] Margarete d'Artois b: 1285 d: 24 Apr 1311 ref #: (EC1:57)
+[45] Comte Louis de Evreux d: 1319 ref #: (EC1:57)
4 King Charles I of Naples, Sicily & Jerusalem b: 1220 d: 7 Jan
1284/85 ref #: S88-26
+Beatrix de Provence aka: Beatrice de Savoy b: 1234 d: 23 Sep 1267
ref #: Ä104-28
5 King Charles II of Naples, Sicily & Jerusalem b: 1254 d: 5 Jun
1309 ref #: Ä104-29
+Maria of Hungary b: Abt. 1257 d: 25 Mar 1323 ref #: Ä103-31
6 [46] Marguerite d'Anjou de Siciles d: 1299 ref #: Ä103-32
+[33] Count Charles de Valois aka: Comte de Alencon b: 12 Mar
1270/71 d: 16 Dec 1325 ref #: ESii:12
6 Eleonore d'Anjou d: 1341
+King Federico II di Sicilia b: 1272 d: 1337
7 Pietro II di Sicilia b: 1304 d: 8 Aug 1342
+Elisabeth von Kärnten d: 1352
8 Leonora di Sicilia b: Abt. 1325 d: 20 Apr 1375
+Pedro IV de Aragon aka: "le Ceremonieux" b: 15 Sep 1319 d: 5 Jan
1386/87
9 [47] Juan I de Aragon y Valencia b: 27 Dec 1350 d: 19 May 1395
*2nd Wife of [47] Juan I de Aragon y Valencia:
+[48] Yolande de Bar d: 13 Jul 1431
9 [49] Princess Leonor de Aragon b: 20 Feb 1357/58 d: 13 Sep 1382
+[7] King Juan I de Castile b: 24 Aug 1358 d: 9 Oct 1390
2 [50] King John of England aka: "Lackland" b: 24 Dec 1167 d: 19 Oct
1216 ref #: F223:16
*2nd Wife of [50] John of England:
*3rd Wife of [50] John of England:
*4th Wife of [50] John of England:
*5th Wife of [50] John of England:
+Isabelle de Angoulême b: 1189 d: 31 May 1246 ref #: Ä117-27
3 King Henry III of England b: 1 Oct 1207 d: 12 Nov 1272 ref #:
F225:15
+Éléonore de Provence b: Abt. 1217 d: 25 Jun 1291 ref #: Ä111-30
4 [51] King Edward I of England aka: "Longshanks" b: 17 Jun 1239 d:
1307 ref #: BRF:81
+[52] Princess Alianore de Castile b: 1240 d: 28 Nov 1290 ref #:
Ä110-30
*2nd Wife of [51] Edward I of England:
4 Beatrice Plantagenet b: 25 Jun 1242 d: 24 Mar 1274/75 ref #:
F225:15vii
+Sir Jean II de Dreux aka: Earl of Richmond b: 4 Jan 1238/39 d: 18
Nov 1305 ref #: BxP:162
5 [53] Blanche de Bretagne b: Abt. 1270 d: 19 Mar 1326/27
+[54] Philippe d'Artois d: 11 Sep 1298
--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
Π= Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]
ED MANN
>
> Leo Akershoek wrote:
> >
> > ED MANN was so kind as to give us five generations of:
> >
> > > Ancestors of Catalina de Foix
> > > ...(snip)...
> >
> > I am looking for the ancestors of:
> >
> > Clementia de Foix
> >
>
> Here's another starter for you, with sources where available:
Unfortunately, I gave ancestors of Catalina, not CLementia. The dates
should be a dead giveaway, but you never know.