re. The wife of John, first Lord Harington of Aldingham

[Jeffery A. Duvall]

Can anyone shed some light on the question of who Sir John Harington (ca.
1281-1347), first Lord Harington of Aldingham, married? The CP (vol. 6, p.
315) states that his wife was Joan and that she was probably a Dacre
. James Croston's "County families of Lancashire and Cheshire* (page 248)
states that he left two sons (Robert, his heir, and Sir John Harington of
Farleton) by his wife Juliana, daughter of (Sir?) Richard Berlingham. Has
anyone else looked into this matter? Is this still a mystery or has some
one found the answer?

Any and all help will be much appreciated.

Jeff Duvall
Indy
jef...@iquest.net

[Brenda...@xtra.co.nz]

On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 05:41:02 +0000 (UTC), jef...@iquest.net ("Jeffery
A. Duvall") wrote:

Hi Jeff;

Have this from Visitation of Yorkshire

Family Group Sheet

Husband: John, Sir. de Harrington
Born: c 1265 from Harrington, Cumberland
Died: 2 Jul 1347 in
Father: Robert, Sir. de Haverington
Mother: Agnes le Cansfield

Wife: Joan Dacre

Father: William Dacre
Mother: Joan, daughter of Benedict Garnet

M Child 1: John, Sir. Harrington
Born: from Farleton, Westmorland
Died: 1359 in

Family Group Sheet

Husband: John, Sir. Harrington
Born: from Farleton, Westmorland
Died: 1359 in
Father: John, Sir. de Harrington
Mother: Joan Dacre

Wife: Katherine Banastre
Born: from Bolton-le-, Moors, Lancs
Baptized:
Father: Adan, Sir Banastre
Mother: Margaret de Holland

M Child 1: Nicholas, Sir. Harington
Born: 1346 from Farleton, Westmorland
Died: c1391/2 in Marlston, Lancaster

Family Group Sheet

Husband: Nicholas, Sir. Harington
Born: 1346 from Farleton, Westmorland
Died: c1391/2 in Marlston, Lancaster
Father: John, Sir. Harrington
Mother: Katherine Banastre

Wife: Isabel English
Born: from Cumberland
Father: William, Sir. English
Mother: Margaret le Brun

F Child 1: Isabel Harington
Born: in
Died: in
M Child 2: William Harrington
Born: from Hornby
Died: 1450 in

Researching: Lowther of Lowther,Westmoreland:Clifford Yks:Brennan,Ballyhack,Wexford:Fitzgibbon,of French Park Rosscommon:Prendergast Waterford:Rowsell & Gregory, Yeovill Som:Wilson,Stockholm:Peters,Hamburg

[Cristopher Nash]

<Brenda...@xtra.co.nz> wrote on 2 Feb 2003 -

Gary Boyd Roberts gives the parents of (----) Harington who m.
Nicholas Eltonhead as Nicholas Harington of Huyton and (Margaret
Lathom), son of Sir Nicholas Harington and Isabel English [GBR,
_500_, 348-49]. Steve Norris in his study of the Eltonheads,
discussed here in the past, calls the former of these Nicholas
Harington "of the Harringtons of Hutton Hey, Lancashire". I'd be
grateful for any further details concerning this sequence which --
without documentation - appears fairly tenuous.

Thanks.

Cris
--

[Brenda...@xtra.co.nz]

Thank you for you reply Jeff

CLARAIFCATION

There is a footnote on page 104 of the 1563-64 Yorkshire Visitations
CD

DUDLEY

Edmund Dudley (son of John, Lord Dudley) married 2nd Maud dau of Lord
Clifford*

Footnote * Daughter of Thomas Lord Clifford by Joan Dacre and widow of
Sir John Harrington of Hornby

Hope this helps

[Penelope Edwards]

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[Penelope Edwards]

Comment from a....@btopenworld.com

As I have been researching this field for many years, I would just like to
comment on my findings and if anyones concur with mine. There is the
problem of finding the mother of Robert and Sir John of Farleton - is it
Juliana Berlingham or Joan Dacre?
Is the Joan Dacre mentioned, daughter of William Dacre and Joan (dau. of
Benedict Garnet [Gernet?]) or the daughter of Thomas, Lord Dacre of Gilsland
and Phillippa Neville, whose second marriage was to Thomas, Lord Clifford,
8th Baron producing a daughter (1 of 5) who first married Thomas Harrington,
then secondly Edmund/Edward Dudley (Father - John Lord Dudley).

Yes, this has intrigued me for many years - and how does one untangle such a
mess?

If the Joan Dacre mentioned is the daughter of Thomas, Lord Dacre of
Gilsland and Phillippa Neville, then we have descent from Edward I.

I would like your comments on the above as soon as possible.

Kind regards,

Penelope

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[Penelope Edwards]

Penelope Edwards <a....@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:...

[Jeffery A. Duvall]

While I think It's still unclear which woman (Joan Dacre or Juliana
Berlingham) was the wife of Sir John Harington (ca. 1281-1347), first Lord
Harington of Aldingham, I think the dates speak for themselves vis-a-vis
whether or not the Joan Dacre in question could be the daughter of Thomas,
Lord Dacre of Gilsland and Philippa Neville, and mother-in-law of Sir John
Harington of Hornby (d. 1460). After all, Sir John Harington of Hornby (d.
1460), was the great-grandson of Sir Nicholas Harington (d. 1403) of
Farleton, and therefore the great-great-great-grandson of the first Lord
Harington of Aldingham (d. 1347).

Jeff Duvall
Indy
jef...@iquest.net

At 11:10 PM 2/5/03 +0000, Penelope Edwards wrote:
>Comment from a....@btopenworld.com
>
>As I have been researching this field for many years, I would just like to
>comment on my findings and if anyones concur with mine. There is the
>problem of finding the mother of Robert and Sir John of Farleton - is it
>Juliana Berlingham or Joan Dacre?
>Is the Joan Dacre mentioned, daughter of William Dacre and Joan (dau. of
>Benedict Garnet [Gernet?]) or the daughter of Thomas, Lord Dacre of Gilsland
>and Phillippa Neville, whose second marriage was to Thomas, Lord Clifford,
>8th Baron producing a daughter (1 of 5) who first married Thomas Harrington,
>then secondly Edmund/Edward Dudley (Father - John Lord Dudley).
>
>Yes, this has intrigued me for many years - and how does one untangle such a
>mess?
>
>If the Joan Dacre mentioned is the daughter of Thomas, Lord Dacre of
>Gilsland and Phillippa Neville, then we have descent from Edward I.
>
>I would like your comments on the above as soon as possible.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Penelope
><Brenda...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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