Fw: Stafford Barlow (? ancestor of Almy family of Rhode Island)
Leo van de Pas
Brandon. A great find!!
Bob Graham, Governor of Florida 1979-1987 is also a descendant.
Having added a few Presidents, here is a list of Presidents now known to
have a Plantagenet ancestry. If I left anyone out, please let me know.
1.George Washington
3.Thomas Jefferson
4.James Madison
6.John Quincy Adams
9.William Henry Harrison
12.Zachary Taylor
18.Ulysses S. Grant
22-24 Stephen Grover Cleveland
23.Benjamin Harrison
26. Theodore Roosevelt
27.William Howard Taft
29.Warren Harding
30.Calvin Coolidge
32.Franklin Delano Roosevelt
37.Richard Nixon
38.Gerald Ford
39.Jimmy Carter
41.George Herbert Walker Bush
43.George Walker Bush
That is 19 out of 43, fascinating.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: <lma...@att.net>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
To: <gen-me...@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: Stafford Barlow (? ancestor of Almy family of Rhode Island)
> On Nov 5, 8:28 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=xAwV58-wewEC&dq=%22stafford+barlow&q...
>
>
> And heres one line of royal descent.
> Most of the details can be found at:
> http://books.google.com/books?id=p_yzpuWi4sgC&pg=PP1&dq=humphrey+stafford+elizabeth+burdett&sig=tB_a2LEAC_0p6AiCKo4xmPhGFsQ#PRA1-PA383,M1
>
>
> Henry II = Ida
> |
> William Longespee = Ela of Salisbury
> |
> Ida Longespee = William Beauchamp
> |
> Beatrice Beauchamp = Thomas Fitz Otes
> |
> Maud Fitz Thomas = John Botetourt
> |
> Ada Botetourt = John de St Philibert
> |
> Maud St Philibert = Warin Trussell
> |
> Maud Trussell = John Hastang
> |
> Maud Hastang = Ralph Stafford
> |
> Humphrey Stafford = Elizabeth Burdett
> |
> Humphrey Stafford = Eleanor Aylesford
> |
> Humphrey Stafford = Catherine Fray
> |
> Humphrey Stafford = Margaret Fogge
> |
> Humphrey Stafford = Margaret Tame
> |
> Eleanor Stafford = Thomas Barlow
> |
> Stafford Barlow
> |
> Audrey Barlow, wife of William Almey of Rhode Island
>
> Gary Roberts' book, Ancestors of American Presidents,
> shows the emigrant couple as being ancestral to presidents
> Warren Harding, Richard Nixon & Jimmy Carter.
> I believe the latter two had no previously noted royal descent.
> Ive already passed on a message about this to Gary.
>
> Leslie
>
>
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Rutherford Birchard Hayes is a William the lion descendant by
way of Roos, Sherburne, Rishton, Worthington and the immigrant Peter Worden.
Sincerely,
James W
Cummings
Dixmont, Maine USA
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Leo van de Pas
a long way removed from him.
Leo van de Pas
Leo van de Pas
From: "Douglas Richardson" <royala...@msn.com>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval,soc.history.medieval
To: <gen-me...@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Stafford Barlow (? ancestor of Almy family of Rhode Island)
> Dear John and Leslie ~
> Nice work guys. You impress me as always.
> Audrey Barlow possesses a valid descent through her 2nd great-
> grandmother, Margaret Fogge, from Sir Geoffrey de Say (died 1230), the
> Magna Carta baron, and his wife, Hawise, daughter of Richard de Clare,
> Knt. (died 1217), Earl of Hertford, also a Magna Carta baron. Audrey
> Barlow also has a third Magna Carta descent through her 4th great-
> grandmother, Eleanor Aylesbury, from Sir William de Huntingfield, Knt.
> (died 1221), the Magna Carta baron.
>
> Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
======= For me it is so disappointing to see this one-eyed obsession with
Plantagenet and Magna Carta ancestry. This Audrey Barlow has so many more
more interesting and/or important ancestors, such as:
William de Ferrieres, 3rd Earl of Derby, crusader in the 3rd crusade
Robert Corbet who accompanied Richard I to the siege of Acre
Roger FitzCorbet who was mentioned in the Doomesday Book
Godfried I 'with the Beard' Duke of Lorraine
Robert de Caen, 1st Earl of Gloucester
William the Conqueror
Malcolm III, king of Scots
St.Margaret of Wessex
Gruffydd ap Llywelyn, King of Deheubarth
Robert II, King of France
Edmund II Ironside, King of England
Lady Godiva
Hugues Capet, King of France
Aedthelred II the Unready, King of England
Jaroslav I Grand Duke of Kiev
Berengar II, King of Italy
Olof III Skotkonung, King of Sweden, 1st Christian king of Sweden
Heinrich I 'the Fowler' Emperor
Charles 'the Bald', Emperor
Alfred the Great, King of England
Charlemagne
and many more.
With best wishes
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
>
> On Nov 5, 12:52 pm, lmah...@att.net wrote:
> < On Nov 5, 8:28 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <
> < >http://books.google.com/books?id=xAwV58-wewEC&dq=%22stafford
> +barlow&q...
> <
> < And heres one line of royal descent.
> < Most of the details can be found at:http://books.google.com/books?
> id=p_yzpuWi4sgC&pg=PP1&dq=humphrey+staf...
> <
> < Henry II = Ida de Tony
> < |
> < William Longespee = Ela of Salisbury
> < |
> < Ida Longespee = William de Beauchamp
> < |
> < Beatrice de Beauchamp = Thomas Fitz Otes
> < |
> < Maud Fitz Thomas = John Botetourt
> < |
> < Ada Botetourt = John de St Philibert
> < |
> < Maud St Philibert = Warin Trussell
> < |
> < Maud Trussell = John Hastang
> < |
> < Maud Hastang = Ralph Stafford
> < |
> < Humphrey Stafford = Elizabeth Burdett
> < |
> < Humphrey Stafford = Eleanor Aylesford
> < |
> < Humphrey Stafford = Katherine Fray
> < |
> < Humphrey Stafford = Margaret Fogge
> < |
> < Humphrey Stafford = Margaret Tame
> < |
> < Eleanor Stafford = Thomas Barlow
> < |
> < Stafford Barlow
>> |
>> Audrey Barlow, wife of William Almey of Rhode Island
> <
> < Gary Roberts' book, Ancestors of American Presidents,
> < shows the emigrant couple as being ancestral to presidents
> < Warren Harding, Richard Nixon & Jimmy Carter.
> < I believe the latter two had no previously noted royal descent.
> < Ive already passed on a message about this to Gary.
> <
> < Leslie
>
>
>
mhol...@mac.com
Gary Boyd Roberts' "not proven yet" I would say your list could
include:
15. James Buchanan (unproved)
33. Herbert Hoover (proved)
And it should not include:
18. U.S. Grant
And it is predicated on the Almy descent for Nixon, Carter, and
Harding.
Gordon Banks
cousin of mine, and we are also Almy descendants.
I would also like to thank John and Leslie, as this is only the 2nd
Plantagenet connection for me, although Mitt has others through other
lines we don't share.
> With best wishes
> Leo van de Pas
> Canberra, Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lma...@att.net>
> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
> To: <gen-me...@rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Stafford Barlow (? ancestor of Almy family of Rhode Island)
>
>
> > On Nov 5, 8:28 am, John Brandon <starbuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> http://books.google.com/books?id=xAwV58-wewEC&dq=%22stafford+barlow&q...
> >
> >
> > And heres one line of royal descent.
> > Most of the details can be found at:
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=p_yzpuWi4sgC&pg=PP1&dq=humphrey+stafford+elizabeth+burdett&sig=tB_a2LEAC_0p6AiCKo4xmPhGFsQ#PRA1-PA383,M1
> >
> >
> > Henry II = Ida
> > |
> > William Longespee = Ela of Salisbury
> > |
> > Ida Longespee = William Beauchamp
> > |
> > Beatrice Beauchamp = Thomas Fitz Otes
> > |
> > Maud Fitz Thomas = John Botetourt
> > |
> > Ada Botetourt = John de St Philibert
> > |
> > Maud St Philibert = Warin Trussell
> > |
> > Maud Trussell = John Hastang
> > |
> > Maud Hastang = Ralph Stafford
> > |
> > Humphrey Stafford = Elizabeth Burdett
> > |
> > Humphrey Stafford = Eleanor Aylesford
> > |
> > Humphrey Stafford = Catherine Fray
Doug McDonald
>
> ======= For me it is so disappointing to see this one-eyed obsession
> with Plantagenet and Magna Carta ancestry. This Audrey Barlow has so
> many more more interesting and/or important ancestors, such as:
>
But Leo .... those vast numebers of interesting ancestors are
mostly also ancestors of Edward III (and/or Robert III) so if
somebody gets connected to one of those two kings, they automatically
get a huge list of interesting ancestors. The "automatic" is
what is so important about say Edward III.
Doug McDonald