Margaret de Beauchamp, wife of Sir Hubert de Hussey [Hose, Husee], of Figheldean, Wiltshire
Douglas Richardson
The early Hussey family seated at Figheldean, Stapleford, and
Tidcombe, Wiltshire were of knightly rank. The last male member of
this family was Sir Hubert de Hussey, died 1275, who was survived by a
wife, Margaret, and three daughters and coheiresses, namely Margaret
(wife of Henry Esturmy), Maud (wife of John le Dun), and Isabel (wife
of John de Thorney). As far as I can tell, the parentage of Sir
Hubert Hussey's wife, Margaret, has never been ascertained. Recently,
however, I located two documents which prove Margaret was a daughter
of William de Beauchamp, of Elmley and Salwarpe, Worcestershire,
hereditary Sheriff of Worcestershire, died 1269. As such, she was a
hitherto unknown sister of William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick,
died 1298.
Transcripts of the two documents below were published in Clanchy,
Civil Pleas of the Wiltshire Eyre 1249 (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 26)
(1971): 82, 109–110. These documents establish that there was a
contract for marriage in 1249 between Hubert, son and heir apparent of
Henry de Hussey (or Hose, Hoese), and Margery, daughter of William de
Beauchamp, of Elmley, Worcestershire.
pg. 82:
Richard de Derneford, Alexander Cheverel, Nicholas of Haverisham, and
Adam de Greinvill, 4 knights, summoned to elected on oath 12 of the
lawful [men] from the neighbourhood of Tytecumbe [Tidcombe,
Wiltshire], to make a recognition of the grand assize between William
de Bello Campo of Elmeleye, plaintiff, and Henry Hose, tenant, for the
manor of Titecumbe [i.e., Tidcombe, Wiltshire] with appurtenances,
excepting 4 virgates of land in the same vill, whereof Henry, who is
the tenant, put himself on the king's grand assize and claimed that
there be a recognition whether he has the greater right of holding
that manor, excepting the 4 virgates of land, from the aforesaid
William, or whether William should hold it in demesne, come and have
elected these, namely Thomas of Thurney, Richard Pipard, William of
Calne, Thomas le Tabler, Jordan la Warre, Adam de la Mare, John of
Chereburgh', Henry of Hertham, Henry of Wadon', Henry Crok, John de
Columbar', Reynold of Lokinton', John de la Stane, Richard de Anesy,
Samson of la Boxe, Nicholas of Haversham, Richard of Derneford. Later
they [the parties] are agreed. Henry gives 1 mark for license to
agree by surety of William. Let them have a chirograph."
pg. 109–110:
"It is agreed between William de Bello Campo, plaintiff, and Henry
Huse, tenant, concerning the manor of Titescumbe [i.e, Tidcombe,
Wiltshire] as follows: William has remitted and quitclaimed on behalf
of himself and his heirs every right and claim which he had or could
have in that manor. And for that, Henry has given William the
marriage of Hubert his first-born son to be married to Margery,
William's daughter. Henry readily grants that, when Hubert his son
shall have contracted the marriage with the said Margery, he can dower
her with the manor of Tateswyk [i.e, Tatwick in Swainswick,
Somerset]. If it happens that Hubert, when he reaches the age at
which he can legitimately make a contract, does not wish to consent to
the marriage contracted between himself and the aforesaid Margery,
Henry Hoese has granted to Margery on behalf of himself and his heirs
the whole of the aforesaid manor of Tateswyk to hold throughout her
life from Henry and his heirs, in such a way that the manor of
Tateswyk after Margery's decease shall revert completely and fully
without any contradiction to Henry and his heirs, as is more fully
contained in the chirograph made between them."
While William de Beauchamp's daughter is named Margery in the second
document, this given name was fully interchangeable with the given
name, Margaret, in this time period. Sir Hubert de Hussey's surviving
wife was named Margaret, as indicated by Roberts, Calendarium
Genealogicum 1 (1865): 352, and Cal. Patent Rolls, 1272–1281 (1901):
107.
Research on my part indicates that Sir Henry de Hussey and his wife,
Margaret (or Margery) de Beauchamp, are ancestral of Sir William
Esturmy (or Sturmy), Knt. (died 1427), the distinguished Speaker of
the House of Commons. Sir William Esturmy's daughter, Maud, in turn
is ancestral of the Seymour family of Wolfhall (in Savernake),
Wiltshire, which family are forebearers of Queen Jane Seymour, wife of
King Henry VIII of England.
For further details of the descent of the manor of Tidcombe, Wiltshire
named in the above documents, see VCH Wiltshire, 16 (1999): 215-222,
which material is available at the following weblink:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23050&strquery=Tidcombe
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Douglas Richardson
In my post earlier this week, I referred to Margaret de Beauchamp's
husband as Sir Hubert de Hussey. The surname Hussey does not take a
"de" with it. So the correct name of Margaret's husband would be Sir
Hubert Hussey (or Huse/Husee/Hose/Hoese).
Since my original post, I've located a record in the A2A Catalogue
which proves that Margaret de Beauchamp, wife of Sir Hubert Hussey,
was indeed the mother of his children. This record reads as follows:
Source: Wiltshire & Swindon Archives: The Marquis of Ailesbury,
1300/11 (available at www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp).
i. [1375] Writ of Edward III to Sheriff of Wiltshire that John
Kyngestone chivaler, and Henry Estlyngton should restore to Henry
Esturmy and John Corney, moiety of manor of Tidcombe which William de
Beauchamp of Elmele gave to Henry Huse, Hubert his son, Margaret
Hubert's wife and heirs. Henry is entitled as son of Margaret
daughter of Hubert and Margaret, John as son of Isabella daughter of
Hubert and Margaret. END OF QUOTE.
The above record, taken together with the two other records I posted
earlier, confirms that Margaret de Beauchamp, wife of Sir Hubert
Hussey, left surviving issue.
For interest's sake, below is a descent for Queen Jane Seymour from
William de Beauchamp (died 1269), of Elmley, Worcestershire going
through William's new daughter, Margaret (de Beauchamp) Hussey.
1. WILLIAM DE BEAUCHAMP, of Elmley, Worcestershire, died shortly
before 25 April 1269, married c.1236 40 ISABEL MAUDUIT.
2. MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE BEAUCHAMP, living in 1284, married by
contract dated 1249 HUBERT HUSSEY (or HUSE, HUSEE, HOESE), Knt., of
Figheldean and Stapleford, Wiltshire, died shortly before 7 March
1275.
3. MARGARET HUSSEY, born about 1266, died about 1320, married 1277
HENRY ESTURMY, of Wolfhall (in Savernake) and Burbage, Wiltshire,
hereditary Warden of Savernake Forest, Wiltshire, and, in right of his
wife, of Figheldean, Stapleford, and Tidcombe, Wiltshire, died shortly
before 9 Jan. 1310 (date of inventory of goods).
4. HENRY ESTURMY, of Figheldean, Burbage, Cowesfield (in Whiteparish),
and Stapleford, Wiltshire, Rushock, Worcestershire, etc., hereditary
Warden of Savernake Forest, 1305–38, son and heir, died 1338. He
married MAUD _____, living 1316.
5. GEOFFREY ESTURMY, of Figheldean, Wiltshire, 3rd son. He married an
unknown wife, _____.
6. WILLIAM ESTURMY (or STURMY), Knt., of Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn),
Burbage, Cowesfield (in Whiteparish), etc., hereditary Warden of
Savernake Forest, Wiltshire, Knight of the Shire for Hampshire, 1384,
1390, Knight of the Shire for Wiltshire, 1390, 1393, 1400, 1401, 1413,
1414, 1417, 1422, Knight of the Shire for Devon, 1391, 1404, Knight of
the Household, 1392, Ambassador to Avignon and Rome, 1397, member of
the King’s Council, 1401–2, Steward of the Household of Princess
Blanche, 1401–2, Amabassador to the Emperor, 1401–2, Speaker of the
House of Commons, 1404, Ambassador to Flanders, 1404, Ambassador to
Prussia and Hanseatic towns, 1405–7, Chief Steward of the estates of
Queen Joan, 1409–1427, Ambassador to Holland, 1418, Sheriff of
Wiltshire, 1418–19, son and heir, born about 1356, died 1427. He
married 1382 JOAN STOCKHEYE (or STOKEY), died 1429, widow of John de
Beaumont, Knt., of Saunton (in Braunton) and Shirwell, Devon, and
daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Stockheye, Esq.
7. MAUD ESTURMY, died before 1427, married ROGER SEYMOUR, Esq., of
Hatch Beauchamp, Beauchamp Mallet, and Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset,
born 1370, died 1420.
8. JOHN SEYMOUR, Knt., of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, Wolfhall (in
Great Bedwyn), Burbage, Huish, Stapleford, Stinchcombe, and Wootton
Rivers, Wiltshire, and Brobury, Herefordshire, Burgess (M.P.) for
Ludgershall, 1424, hereditary Warden of Savernake Forest, Wiltshire,
Sheriff of Hampshire, 1430–1, 1436–7, 1453–4, Sheriff of Wiltshire,
1431–2, 1450–1, Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1433–4, Knight of the
Shire for Wiltshire, 1435, 1439–40, 1445–6, Constable of Farnham
Castle, 1448–55, Sheriff of Herefordshire, 1457–8, son and heir, born
about 1395–1403, died 1464. He married 1424 ISABEL WILLIAMS, daughter
and heiress of Mark Williams, burgess and merchant, Mayor and Sheriff
of Bristol.
9. JOHN SEYMOUR, Esq., of Stapleford, Wiltshire, Sheriff of Wiltshire,
1450–1, 1457–8, Burgess (M.P.) for Hindon, 1450–1, ?1455–6, Knight of
the Shire for Wiltshire, 1453–4, 1459, son and heir apparent,
presumably died in 1463. He married before 1447 ELIZABETH COKER, died
1472, daughter and heiress of Robert Coker, Esq., of Lawrence St.
Lydiard, Somerset.
10. JOHN SEYMOUR, Esq., of Wolf Hall (in Great Bedwyn), Huish,
Stapleford, Stitchcombe, and Wootton Rivers, Wiltshire, Shepton
Beauchamp, Somerset, etc., hereditary Warden of Savernake Forest,
Wiltshire, born about 1450 (aged 14 in 1464, 26 in 1476), died 26 Oct.
1491. He married ELIZABETH DARRELL (or DARELL), daughter of George
Darrell, Knt., of Littlecote (in Ramsbury), Wiltshire.
11. JOHN SEYMOUR, Knt., of Wolf Hall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire,
Sheriff of Wiltshire, 1507–8, 1518–9, 1524–6, Constable of Bristol
Castle [with his son, Edward], 1517, son and heir, born 1476, died
1536. He married MARGERY WENTWORTH, died 1550, daughter of Henry
Wentworth, K.B., of Nettlestead, Suffolk.
12. JANE SEYMOUR, Queen of England, married HENRY VIII OF ENGLAND,
King of England.
Douglas Richardson
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New
World immigrants that descend from the newly discovered line from
Margaret (de Beauchamp) Hussey, ancestress of Queen Jane Seymour:
Thomas Booth, Anna Cordray, Humphrey Davie, Corderoy, Francis,
Martha, & William Iremonger, William Rodney, Samuel & William Torrey.
Is your ancestor on this list? If so, I'd enjoy hearing from you here
on the newsgroup.
corbyguy
quarterings display of the Dukes of Buckingham and Chandos which can be seen
here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Stowe_Armorial.jpg
Quarter Surname Description
214 Esturmy Argent, three demi Lions, rampant Gules
215 Hussey Barry of six Ermine and Gules
216 ?????
217 Stokey Argent, a chevron between three Cornish Choughs proper
218 ?????
219 Williams Per bend, Argent and Gules, three Roses in bend
countercharged
Quarters 216 may have come through from a heiress marrying a Hussey and 218
may have come through from a heiress marrying a Stokey. Can anyone confirm
this with names if possible?
Regards
Jamie
Douglas Richardson
Quartering 216 might be Stapleford and Quartering 218 might be
Cawthorne.
That's just a guess, though.
Can you provide a description of these two coats of arms?
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
On Aug 12, 8:22 am, "corbyguy" <corby...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> The names of Esturmy and Stokey is of interest as they feature in the 719
> quarterings display of the Dukes of Buckingham and Chandos which can be seen
> herehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Stowe_Armorial.jpg
corbyguy
I have had a look in Burkes General Armory for the descriptions for
Stapleford and Cawthorne but they do not match the descriptions on the
display of quarterings and from what I could work out from the display is
the following:
Quarter 216 looks like Azure a lion rampant (?). The front half of the lion
is Or with the back and tail Gules?
Quarter 218 looks like Sable a chevron (ermine?) between 2 chevron(els)
Argent?
Quarter 216 may have come through the Hussey male line by marriage of a
heiress or it may have come through from either Maud the wife of Henry
Esturmy or Maud de Bendeng the daughter of Adam de Bendeng (information from
Ancestry.com) the wife of Geoffrey Esturmy. Whatever I find on Ancestry.com
I always check and if needs be double check the information given as I have
come across many errors in the information that people give on there. As of
yet I have yet to find a description of arms for Bendeng so am unable to
confirm or not if quarter 216 could be for Bendeng.
On Ancestry.com I have seen information that lists the wife of William
Esturmy as Joan Storey but the arms for quarter 218 does not match the arms
for Storey but they are a match for the arms for Stokey.
Quarter 218 definitely comes through the Stokey male line by marriage of a
heiress as the following quarter 219 comes next on the marriage of John
Seymour to Isabel Williams the daughter and heiress of Mark Williams.
Regards
Jamie
corbyguy
Further to my message below quarter 216 could well be that for Bendeng. Have
seen the following:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56751 where there is a
paragraph as follows:
Before 1166 Elvetham had apparently passed from the Ports to Stephen de
Bendeng, who in that year was returned as holding one quarter of a knight's
fee of the Abbot of Chertsey; this same property was held by Adam de Bendeng
in 1212, and there is very little doubt that the same estate is referred to
in the Testa de Nevill, which states that Adam de Bendeng held 1 hide of
land in Elvetham. (fn. 10) Adam, who died in 1229, had a son Walter, who
died in 1232, leaving a son William, who was under age; he and his father's
land were entrusted to the custody of Walter de Faukenberge, and when
William died two years later the manor passed to his aunt, Maud wife of
Geoffrey Sturmy. (fn. 11) Geoffrey Sturmy died in 1246, leaving a son Henry,
who entered into possession of his mother's inheritance when he came of age
in 1254, (fn. 12) and in 1280 was called upon to prove his right to the
assize of bread and ale in Elvetham. (fn. 13) The manor remained in the
family without a break, descending from father to son for a hundred years or
more, the younger generation being invariably named after the elder. (fn.
14)
From: 'Parishes: Elvetham', A History of the County of Hampshire: Volume 4
(1911), pp. 74-76. URL:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=56751 Date accessed: 13
August 2011.
There is no Bendeng arms given in Burkes General Armory and so far I have
yet to find a description for the Bendeng arms so am not able confirm if
quarter 216 is indeed Bendeng.
Regards
Jamie
countryf...@gmail.com
BY THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND..Page 139, it is written.......no daughter of any Earl of Warwick is mentioned as having married a Hussey.
(We have enough problems finding our family lines without someone in 1889, writ ting wrong infomation.
My line:
Husee : Hoese, or Hussey. Sir Richard Hoare, in his History of Wilts, gives the following pedigree of this family, taken from an ancient MS. said to have been found among the "muniments of Glastonbury Abbey."
Two brothers married sisters?
....Henry beget Ralph Huse
16 RALPH HUSE, of Sutton Abbas, Dorset, living in 1289, married Evelyn De Warwick, 1247-1287, daughter of WILLIAM BEAUCHAMP, EARL of WARWICK, of Elmley Castle, Kemerton, Steward of the Household of King Edward I. and Isabel Mauduit, sister and heiress of William Mauduit, 8th Earl of Warwick and his wife ISABELLA, sister and co-heir of WILLIAM MAUDUIT, EARL of WARWICK, and had issue
Son: WILLIAM HUSSEY B: 1300 married Margaret De Verdun, and so on.....
Isabel Mauduit's father was WILLIAM MAUDUIT, EARL of WARWICK. WILLIAM BEAUCHAMP was given the title through his wife. The Beauchamps held the title until 3 January 1448, when Anne de Beauchamp, 15th Countess of Warwick, as the only child of Henry de Beauchamp. Richard Neville,the Kingmaker, married Lady Anne de Beauchamp (b. September 1426), who succeeded as the 16th Countess of Warwick in her own right, after the death of her niece, Anne de Beauchamp, 15th Countess of Warwick. So the comment written in 1889, by THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND, is not true. You have very well proven that is false. Ralph, Hubert's brother matches everyone that I have researched. Thanks for your infomation. It cleared up a brickwall that I thought I had.
taf
> In the ''Battle Abbey Roll'' WITH SOME ACCOUNT OF THE NORMAN LINEAGES.
> BY THE DUCHESS OF CLEVELAND..Page 139, it is written.......no daughter
> of any Earl of Warwick is mentioned as having married a Hussey.
>
> (We have enough problems finding our family lines without someone in
> 1889, writ ting wrong infomation.
> My line:
> Husee : Hoese, or Hussey. Sir Richard Hoare, in his History of Wilts,
> gives the following pedigree of this family, taken from an ancient MS.
> said to have been found among the "muniments of Glastonbury Abbey."
> Two brothers married sisters?
> ....Henry beget Ralph Huse
> 16 RALPH HUSE, of Sutton Abbas, Dorset, living in 1289, married Evelyn
> De Warwick, 1247-1287, daughter of WILLIAM BEAUCHAMP, EARL of WARWICK,
taf