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Beatrice, wife of Andre of Vienne

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Jim Stevens

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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I have a Beatrice , wife of Andre, Count of Albon & Vienne (1184-1287).
Could someone with access to ES please see if it has a pedigree for her. I
would like to go back 4 generations if possible.

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William Addams Reitwiesner

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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Jim Stevens <jste...@IQUEST.NET> wrote:

>I have a Beatrice , wife of Andre, Count of Albon & Vienne (1184-1287).
>Could someone with access to ES please see if it has a pedigree for her. I
>would like to go back 4 generations if possible.

His dates are actually a more reasonable (1184-1237). See the
Schwennicke edition of ES, Band II, Tafel 20.

He married three times, first to Beatrice de Sabran, then to
Semnoresse de Poitou (yes, that's spelled right), then third to
Beatrice de Montferrat. He had children by his first and third wives,
in other words, both of the Beatrices. Which one were you interested
in?


William Addams Reitwiesner
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Jim Stevens

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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William Addams Reitwiesner <wr...@127.0.0.1> replied:

I would like to know the pedigee back (not forward) for BEATRICE OF MONTFERRAT.

Thanx!

William Addams Reitwiesner

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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Jim Stevens <jste...@IQUEST.NET> wrote:

>I would like to know the pedigee back (not forward) for BEATRICE OF MONTFERRAT.

1. Beatrice of Montferrat (-1274) m1. Andre de Bourgogne alias Guigues
VI Dauphin de Viennois, C d'Albon (1184-1237)

2. William VI Margrave of Montferrat (-1225) m2. 1202
3. Berta di Clavesana

4. Boniface I Margrave of Montferrat (-1207) m1.
5. Elena di Busca
6. Boniface Margrave of Clavesana

8. William V Margrave of Montferrat (-1191) m. 1133
9. Judith of Austria (-1178)

16. Rainer III Margrave of Montferrat (-1137)
17. Gisela of Burgundy (-1133)
18. Leopold III Margrave of Austria (-1136) m. 1106
19. Agnes, Imperial Princess (1074-1143)


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Richard Borthwick

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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I think 5 should be Elena del Bosco probable daughter of 10., Anselm
Margrave of Bosco. ES (II:200) is a bit muddled on this or else a a typo.
The Vasto (Busca) and the Bosco are two different branches of the same family.

12. Anselm Margrave of Ceva
24. Bonifacio del Vasto Margrave of Savona (-1125/30)

caro...@aol.com

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Apr 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/16/97
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Can you also give us the ancestry of Andre of Vienne?

Thanks.

Carolyn Clark Campbell

CarolynCC

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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