Origins of Philippe d'Entremont - November 14, 1601
Chris Thomas
I'm new to the list and, of course, have a question. Gen-Royal had no
response so I'm hoping that some of you may know this family. From what
I've seen (yes, I've been lurking) there seems to be a great deal of
knowledge bouncing around this list. Hopefully some will bounce my way.
Anyway, here's my problem:
Baron Philippe Muis d'Entremont was my 10th great grandfather. He arrived
in Canada around 1651. There seems to be a great deal of controversy
concerning his parentage. Some state that he was adopted by Jacqueline
d'Entremont, Nicolas Mius (his supposed father) having died at the side of
her husband Gaspard de Coligny during the Massacre of St Barthelemy.
Another possibility stems from my interpretation of an entry in a book
called Actes du Colloque l'Amiral de Coligny et son Temps, published in
Paris in 1974 by the Societe de l'Histoire u Protestantisme Francais, page
770. Which states:
"Beatrice de Coligny d'Entremont (b. Dec 1572, after her father's death at
the hands of the Guises) married Claude-Antoine de Meuillon de Montauban.
This reference records 6 (six) children: Francois-Virgine, b. aft 1600, d,.
aft 1650 and married to Madeleine du Tillet; an unnamed son who became the
Abbe de Chesery; another unnamed son who became baron de Nattage; yet
another unnamed son who became sieur de St-Mauris; and two
daughters--Beatrice and Marguerite." I have listed them in the same order
as Actes listed them. There is no indication there of another child named
Philippe which would seem to rule out Philippe as a natural member of the
family however the fact that the elusive Francois Virgine is listed as the
husband of Madeleine Elie du Tillet (Philippe's recorded spouse) makes me
wonder if they're one in the same. In fact, I'm currently working under
that assumption, (and yes I know the danger of assuming) as you can see
below:
Descendants of Gaspard de Coligny
1 [1] ADMIRAL OF FRANCE, GASPARD II DE COLIGNY b: February 16, 1519 in
Chatillon-sur-Loing, France d: August 24, 1572 in Paris, France
. +Jacqueline DE MONTBEL b: 1545 in Isere, France m: March 24, 1571 in
LaRochelle, France d: 1572 in Isere, France Father: Sebastien De Montbel,
Count d'Entremont Mother: Beatrix Escalona
2 Beatrice DE COLIGNY b: 1572 in Savoy, France d: Unknown in Savoy,
France
.. +Claude Antoine Mius DE MEULLON b: 1570 in Normandy, France m: June 17,
1600 in Savoy, France d: Unknown in Savoy, France Father: Nicolas Muis
Mother: Jeanne de Meullon
3 Philippe Mius D'ENTREMONT b: November 14, 1601 in Cherbourg, Normandy
FR d: 1700 in Pobomcoup, Acadia
.. +Madeleine HELIE DU TILLET b: 1626 in Cherbourg, Normandy, France m:
1640 in Calvados France (possibly as late as 1649) d: 1679 in Pobomcoup,
Acadia Father: Jacques Helie Du Tillet Mother: Francoise Faucon
*2nd Wife of [1] Gaspard de Coligny:
. +Charlotte DE LAVAL b: Unknown m: Unknown d: March 03, 1568 Father:
Mother:
The death date of Francois Virgine cooresponds with the date in which
Francois supposedly got on the wrong side of Cardinal Richelieu and had his
chateaus and properties either burned or forfeited. It also cooresponds
with Philippe d'Entremont's sudden appearance in Canada.
Does anyone know anything more about this family? Can any of you solve my
mystery? I have more sources if needed but I've already rattled on long
enough.
Christine (ct9...@gte.net)
Muskegon, Michigan
Denis Beauregard
dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>I'm new to the list and, of course, have a question. Gen-Royal had no
>response so I'm hoping that some of you may know this family. From what
>I've seen (yes, I've been lurking) there seems to be a great deal of
>knowledge bouncing around this list. Hopefully some will bounce my way.
>Anyway, here's my problem:
>Baron Philippe Muis d'Entremont was my 10th great grandfather. He arrived
>in Canada around 1651. There seems to be a great deal of controversy
Should be "Acadia" around 1651.
>concerning his parentage. Some state that he was adopted by Jacqueline
>d'Entremont, Nicolas Mius (his supposed father) having died at the side of
>her husband Gaspard de Coligny during the Massacre of St Barthelemy.
I think this hypothesis is from someone who find both names in
a family.
>Another possibility stems from my interpretation of an entry in a book
>called Actes du Colloque l'Amiral de Coligny et son Temps, published in
>Paris in 1974 by the Societe de l'Histoire u Protestantisme Francais, page
>770. Which states:
>"Beatrice de Coligny d'Entremont (b. Dec 1572, after her father's death at
>the hands of the Guises) married Claude-Antoine de Meuillon de Montauban.
>This reference records 6 (six) children: Francois-Virgine, b. aft 1600, d,.
>aft 1650 and married to Madeleine du Tillet; an unnamed son who became the
>Abbe de Chesery; another unnamed son who became baron de Nattage; yet
>another unnamed son who became sieur de St-Mauris; and two
>daughters--Beatrice and Marguerite." I have listed them in the same order
>as Actes listed them. There is no indication there of another child named
>Philippe which would seem to rule out Philippe as a natural member of the
>family however the fact that the elusive Francois Virgine is listed as the
>husband of Madeleine Elie du Tillet (Philippe's recorded spouse) makes me
Do you have a source for "du Tillet" ?
> 3 Philippe Mius D'ENTREMONT b: November 14, 1601 in Cherbourg, Normandy
>FR d: 1700 in Pobomcoup, Acadia
>.. +Madeleine HELIE DU TILLET b: 1626 in Cherbourg, Normandy, France m:
>1640 in Calvados France (possibly as late as 1649) d: 1679 in Pobomcoup,
>Acadia Father: Jacques Helie Du Tillet Mother: Francoise Faucon
Ditto, source for the parents of Madeleine Helie ?
I think all we have for sure is in some document, Philippe is said to
be from Normandy. We have the full name of his wife in census,
but nothing more. So, we have this (maybe more children married):
MIUS, sieur d'ENTREMONT, Philippe, born 1609 [R1671], [R1686],
protonotaire du roi in 1686
ELIE, Madeleine, born 1626 [R1671], prob. d bef 1686
1. Marguerite, born 1650 [R1686], m Pierre MELANSON [R1671-M]
2. Jacques, born 1654 [R1671: not named] or 1659 [R1686], m Anne de LA
TOUR [R1671+R1686]
3. Abraham, born 1658 [R1671] or 1662 [R1686], m Marguerite de LA TOUR
[R1671+R1686]
4. Philippe, born 1660 [R1671] or 1662 [R1686]
5. Madeleine, born 1669 [R1671] or 1670 [R1686]
R1671 = census of 1671
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Joyeux temps des fêtes !
0 Denis Beauregard
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