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C.P. Addition: Ela de Oddingseles, wife of Peter de Bermingham, Eustace le Poer/Power, Knt., and Philip Purcell

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Douglas Richardson

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Feb 12, 2021, 12:29:44 PM2/12/21
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 8 (1932): 170 (sub Louth) includes an account of John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth [died 1329].

Regarding his mother, C.P. identifies her as "Ela (living 7 Dec. 1308), sister and coh. of Edmund, and 2nd da. of William de Oddingsells, of Maxstoke, co. Warwick." END OF QUOTE

Ancestor 10 (1904): 32–51 includes a well researched article on the Clinton family of Warwickshire. This article includes information on Ela de Oddingseles, wife of Peter de Bermingham. It provides solid evidence that Ela de Oddingseles subsequently married (2nd) Eustace le Poer/Power, Knt., and (3rd) Philip Purcell. It further shows that on 6 May 1320 Ela and her third husband, Philip Purcell, released Ela's right in the manor of Solihill, Warwickshire to John, Bishop of Ely.

The Ancestor article may be viewed at the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=daFJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA45

Elsewhere I find further confirmation of Ela's 2nd marriage to her 2nd husband, Eustace le Poer/Power/Knt. Ela and Eustace are included as plaintiffs in a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Hilary term 1312 which involves the four Oddingseles co-heirs:

In Trinity term [31 May-21 June] 1312 Ida de Clinton, Eustache Power and Ela his wife, Alice de Caunton, and Margaret de Grey sued John de Blosmevill, of Kniton, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding 26 acres of land and 4 acres of meadower in Solihull, Warwickshire, which the said John claimed as his right.

Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/193, image352f (available at http://‌aalt.law.uh.edu/‌E2/‌CP40no193/‌aCP40no193fronts/‌IMG_0352.htm).

Ela and her 3rd husband, Philip Purcell, were evidently both living in 1322/3-1324/5. Journal of Galway Arch. & Hist. Society 10 (1917–18): 139–154 (re. Bermingham fam.) states that Finola, widow of Richard [de Bermingham], sued Philip Purcell and his wife [Ela de Oddingseles] and the Earl of Louth [Ela’s son] in respect of Finola’s dower in half of the manor of Donamon. The author cites as his sources: [Plea Rolls] 16 Ed. II, R. 141 m 5d., 17 Ed. II., 18 Ed. II, Vol. 54, p. 13.

Elsewhere C.P. 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry) states that Finola, widow of Richard de Bermingham, 2nd Lord Athenry, was assigned dower in 1322, simply citing Plea Roll.

It appears that Ela de Oddingseles' 2nd husband, Sir Eustace le Poer (or Power), served as a member of Parliament in 1295. Grace, Annales Hiberniæ (1842): 59 states that he died in 1311. I assume 1311/12 is here intended, as is seen above, Sir Eustace was still living in Hilary term [24 Jan.-12 Feb.] 1312, when he occurs as a plaintiff in a Common Pleas lawsuit. Sir Eustace certainly died before 30 May 1312, on which date the editor of Annales Hiberniæ indicates that Ela, widow of Sir Eustace, was assigned dower, she having made oath that she would not marry without the king's license. The editor cites the following sources for the assignment of her dower: Rot. Cl. 5 Ed. II. 49.

Below are further records which concern Ela de Oddingseles' 2nd husband, Sir Eustace le Poer (or Power).

Kimber, Peerage of Ireland 1 (1768): 140 [biog. of Sir Eustace le Poer: Sir Eustace le Poer, who sat in a parliament held in 1295, of which parliament Cox has given the list in pages 85 and 86; and in the year 1297, the 25th of Edward I. the king sent to John Wogan, lord justice, commanding him to give summons to the nobles of Ireland to prepare themselves with horse and armour, to serve in the war against the Scots, and withal, wrote to the said nobles, and among others, to this Sir Eustace. (Holl. 63. See the letter in Sir George Carew’s collection a M.S.S. in the Bodlean library, page 51. vol. 3. who quotes it thus, Clausæ de Anno 25. E. I. M. 14. in Scedule pendente). And there is also, in the same book and page, another letter from the same king o his nobles, and among others, to this Sir Eustace, (Clausæ de Anno 30. E. I. M. 16. in Scedule pendene.). Sir Eustace died in 1311; Cambden and Marl. sub hoc anno, leaving issue, Lord Arnold Le Poer ...”).

Grace, Annales Hiberniæ (1842): 59 (sub A.D. 1311: "Eustace Power dies."), 59, footnote u: “Eustatius Power. On the 30th of May 1312, Ela, widow of Eustace le Poer, having made oath that she would not marry without the king's license, was ordered a reasonable dower from her husband's lands. - Rot. Cl. 5 Ed. II. 49.”).

Wright, Narrative of the Procs. against Dame Alice Kyteler for Sorcery (Camden Soc. 24) (1843): 51 (“Benedict le Poer, lord of the same and of Gras Castle, in right of his wife Margaret, daughter and heir of William de Gras, of Gras Castle in Tipperary, by whom he had many sons: 1. _____ le Poer, who was father of Eustace le Poer, who was summoned to parliament in 1295, as lord le Poer, and married the daughter and coheir of Sir William de Odingsels, lord of Maxtock and Solehall Wolverley in Warwickshire, and relict of Peter de Birmingham, but had no issue; 2. Walter, heir to his brother; 3. Benedict, father of Stephen, who had a son, Stephen, sergeant of Overk, mentioned in p. 4.”

Brewer & Bullen, Cal. of Carew MSS: Book of Howth (1871): 367 (“Extent of rents and services of the free Barony of Ouerke made [20 June] 7 Ed. II. [1314]: “Land in Coulodimore, held by Nicholas Blundell; which lands were demised to Nicholas, former Bishop of Leghlin, who demised them to Eustace Le Poer, and now Arnald Le Poer holds them.").

Cal. Patent Rolls, 1301–1307 (1898): 257 (Date: 1304. “Grant to Eustace le Poer, in consideration of his service in Scotland and elsewhere, of 700 marks, at the Exchequer, Dublin which Hugh Purcel owes.”).

Jour. of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland 31 (1901): 368 ("In 1301 Eustace le Poer, the Munster baron, had a grant of free warren in his demesne lands of Kenmoy and Castleconor.”)

Jour. of the Co. Kildare Archaeological Society 5 (1908): 44 (“Their ancestor, Sir Eustace le Poer (from whom the surname FitzEustace, or son of Eustace, was derived), was Baron of Kells, in Ossory, and died in 1311; his eldest son, Sir Arnold, was lord of the manors of Oughterard and Castle Warden, in the County Kildare.”)

In summary, we see that Ela de Oddingseles had not one, but three marriages, and that she was living as late as 1322/3-1324/5.

Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist

Mark Jennings

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On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:29:44 PM UTC, Douglas Richardson wrote:
> Dear Newsgroup ~
>
> Complete Peerage 8 (1932): 170 (sub Louth) includes an account of John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth [died 1329].
>
> Regarding his mother, C.P. identifies her as "Ela (living 7 Dec. 1308), sister and coh. of Edmund, and 2nd da. of William de Oddingsells, of Maxstoke, co. Warwick." END OF QUOTE
>
> Ancestor 10 (1904): 32–51 includes a well researched article on the Clinton family of Warwickshire. This article includes information on Ela de Oddingseles, wife of Peter de Bermingham. It provides solid evidence that Ela de Oddingseles subsequently married (2nd) Eustace le Poer/Power, Knt., and (3rd) Philip Purcell.

(mega snip)

> In summary, we see that Ela de Oddingseles had not one, but three marriages, and that she was living as late as 1322/3-1324/5.
>
> Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist

Interesting as the long-in-print 1904 article is, how is this a CP Addition? According to the Editors' of CP's own notes, "this work is intended as an alphabetical synopsis of the entire hereditary peerage". Neither Ela de Oddingseles, nor any of her three husbands had or pretended to an English, Scottish, Irish or British peerage; as such she and her second and third marriages are entirely out of scope and of no interest to CP whatsoever.

Or is it an addition simply because it isn't contained within CP, regardless of relevance - in the same way that the independence of East Timor or the change of Britney Spears' conservatorship might be considered a "CP Addition"?

Douglas Richardson

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Feb 26, 2021, 2:50:40 PM2/26/21
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Dear Newsgroup ~

Following my recent post regarding the various marriages of Ela de Oddingseles, I realized that Ela de Oddingseles is the paternal grandmother of Sir Walter de Bermingham, husband of Elizabeth de Multon, and the great-grandmother of Sir Walter de Bermingham, husband of Margaret (or Margery) de Scales.

I've copied below my current file account of both Sir Walter de Bermingham's, both of whom are found in a pedigree chart of the Bermingham family in Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry). The elder Sir Walter has modern descendants through his daughter, Margaret, wife of Robert de Preston, Knt., Lord of Gormanston, for whom see Complete Peerage 6 (1926): 18–19 (sub Gormanston). While the younger Walter de Bermingham left no issue, his widow, Margaret (or Margery) de Scales, married (2nd) Robert Howard, and is ancestral to the later Howards, Dukes of Norfolk, and Queen Katherine Howard, wife of King Henry VIII of England.

I note that Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 507 (sub Scales) mentions Margaret Scales, wife of Sir Robert Howard, but makes no mention of her marriage to Sir Walter de Bermingham.

Elsewhere I see there is a good pedigree of the Bermingham family including Ela de Oddingseles and members of her immediate family, including the two Walter der Bermingham's, and her later Preston descendants published in Betham, Dignities, Feudal & Parliamentary 1 (1830): 374 (Bermingham ped.). This pedigree can be found at the following weblink:

https://books.google.com/books?id=A_YKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA374&dq=thetmoy+Monasteroris&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj84tbam4jvAhWScc0KHUsvCdkQ6AEwAXoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q=thetmoy%20Monasteroris&f=false

Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist

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14. ROBERT DE HAVERINGTON (or HARINGTON, HARYNGTON), Knt., of Aldingham, Lancashire, son and heir apparent of John de Haverington, Knt., 1st Lord Harington, of Harrington, Cumberland, Aldingham, Thurnham, Ulverston, and Urswick, Lancashire, by Joan, probable daughter of William de Dacre, Knt. He married in or before 1327 ELIZABETH DE MULTON, daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Multon, Knt., 1st Lord Multon of Egremont, by Eleanor, daughter of Richard de Burgh, Knt., 3rd Earl of Ulster, lord of Connacht [see MULTON 8 for her ancestry]. She was born about 1306 (aged 28 in 1334). They had two sons, John, Knt., and Robert, Knt., and allegedly two daughters. In 1331 he was going to Ireland on the king’s service. SIR ROBERT DE HAVERINGTON died in Ireland in or before 1334. His widow, Elizabeth, married (2nd) in or before November 1334 WALTER DE BERMINGHAM (or BERMYNGHAM, BERMENGEAM, BIRMYNGHAM, BYRMYNGHAM), Knt., of Castle-Carbury, Carrick, and Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, Ireland, Kells and Schanbo, co. Kilkenny, etc., Justiciar of Ireland, 1346–9, and, in right of his wife, of Algarkirk, Fleet, Moulton, and Weston, Lincolnshire, son and heir of William de Bermingham, Knt. [died 1332] [brother of John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth].[1] They had one son, Walter, Knt., and one daughter, Margaret (wife of Robert de Preston, Knt., Lord of Gormanston). He was knighted by the Earl of Desmond in 1330. He and his father William were arrested by the Justiciar at Clonmel in 1332, and subsequently transferred to Dublin Castle. His wife, Elizabeth, was co-heiress in 1334 to her brother, John de Multon, Knt., 2nd Lord Multon of Egremont, by which she inherited an one-third interest in the manors of Moulton, Beausolace (in Algarkirk), Fleet, Kirkton, and Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, and Thurstan (in Hawkedon), Suffolk, as well as various manors in co. Limerick, Ireland. In 1337 Alan de Multon, steward of Joan widow of Robert Fitz Walter, Thomas de Lucy, and Walter de Bermyngham, trustees of lands and advowsons in Lincolnshire late of John de Multon, lord Egremont, presented to the church of Waddingham, Lincolnshire. In 1337 Walter de Byrmyngham acknowledged that he owed John de Wodehous, clerk, a debt of £8; to be levied, etc. in co. Lincoln. The same year Walter de Birmyngham, John Darcy ‘le cosyn,’ Elias de Assheburn, knights, and Nicholas de Snyterle, acknowledged that they owed the king £1000; to be levied, in default of payment, of their lands and chattels in co. Nottingham. He presented to the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire in 1338. In 1339 he and Elizabeth his wife conveyed to Robert de Rotington one-third of the manor of Ullayk and land in Braithwaite, Cumberland. In 1343 Maurice de Bermingham and Robert de Rotington conveyed one-third of the manor of Egremont, Cumberland to Walter and Elizabeth his wife. SIR WALTER DE BERMINGHAM died testate shortly before 16 September 1350. His wife, Elizabeth, died before 30 October 1350. In 1352 Maurice de Bermingham, parson of the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, and William Hode, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, executors of the will of Walter de Bermingham, Knt., sued John de Bristowe, of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, regarding a debt of £7. In 1353 Maurice de Bermingham, parson of the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, and William Hode, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, executors of the will of Walter de Bermingham, Knt., sued Laurence son of Laurence Fitz Giles, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding an account.

References:
Nicolson & Burn, Hist. & Antiqs. of the Counties of Westmorland & Cumberland 2 (1777): 69–77. Harington, Nugæ Antiquæ 3 (1792): 306–312. Hutchinson Hist. of the County of Cumberland 2 (1794): 27–28 (Lucy-Multon ped.). Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 2 (1808): 379–381 (sub Multon). Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822–30): 672–673. Betham, Dignities, Feudal & Parliamentary 1 (1830): 374 (Bermingham ped.). Burke, Gen’l & Heraldic Dict. of the Peerages of England, Ireland & Scotland (1831): 379–380 (sub Multon). Arch. Aeliana 2 (1832): 384–386 (Tailbois-Meschiens ped.). Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 169–170 (Extracts from Aske’s Colls.: Fleming-Camefelde-Haverington ped. dated 1412); 6 (1840): 152; 7 (1841): 389–390. Baines, Hist. of Lancaster 4 (1836): 640–644, 648 (Harington ped.). Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 4 (1837): 152–153 (sub Bermingham). Bligh, New Rpts. of Cases Heard in the House of Lords (1838): 46. Banks, Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 244–245 (sub Harington), 346–347 (sub Multon of Egremont). D’Alton, Hist. of Drogheda 1 (1844): 122. Wright et al., Hist. & Topog. of Counties of Cumberland & Westmoreland (1860): 382. Harland, Portfolio of Fragments (1869): 265 (garbled ped.) (author identifies Elizabeth, wife of Sir Robert Harington, Knt. as “daughter and heir of Thomas Molta [sic]”). Brewer & Bullen, Cal. Carew MSS (1871): 366, 433. Fourth Rpt. (Hist. MSS Comm. 3) (1874): 580. Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 2 (1892): 500 (seal of Walter de Bermyngham dated 1341 — A shield of arms: per pale indented, a border bezantée. Crest, on a helmet a wyvern between two bulls’ horns. Within a finely carved gothic panel with small ball-flowers along the inner edge. Legend: …….. DE BERMYNGEHAM.), 500–501 (seal of Elizabeth de Multon, wife of Walter de Birmingham, dated 1341 — in the centre a shield of arms: BIRMYNGHAM. Between three small roses, and within a finely carved gothic rose of six cusped points, ornamented with small cinquefoil ball-flowers along the inner edge. All within an elaborately traced estoile of six points, containing as many tricusped countersunk panels, with small cinquefoils along the inner edge; each panel contains a circular shield or roundle of arms: (1) a cross [BURGH]; (2) three bars [MULTON]; (3) a fret, or fretty of six pieces, in chief, over all, a label of three points [HARINGTON]. Each repeated in the transversely opposite panels. The whole design forms one of the most interesting and remarkable specimens of heraldic seals. Legend between the panels:— SIGI_LLVM_‌ELIZ_ABET_DE_MULTON. Beaded border.). Gregson, Portfolio of Fragments (1869): 265. C.C.R. 1337–1339 (1900): 26, 57, 117, 119, 185, 286, 366–368, 374, 468–496. Healey, Hist. of the Part of West Somerset (1901): 252–266. Farrer, Final Concords of Lancaster 2 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 46) (1903): 194–195. Feudal Aids 3 (1904): 239–241. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 368. Parker “Cal. of Feet of Fines for Cumberland” in Trans. Cumberland & Westmorland Antiq. Soc. n.s. 7 (1907): 237. C.P. 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry: Bermingham ped.); 6 (1926): 18–19 (sub Gormanston), 316 (sub Harington); 8 (1932): 170–171 (sub Louth); 9 (1936): 405 (sub Multon). Clay, Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 142 (sub Multon). Markham, Markham Memorials 1 (1913): 40 (Harington ped.). VCH Lancaster 8 (1914): 101–105, 300–302, 328–338, 348–356. Cal. IPM 9 (1916): 404–406. Mills, Cal. Gormanston Reg. (1916): vii, 2–3, 15, 111–119, 122, 124. Jour. Galway Arch. & Hist. Soc. 9 (1917): 195–205. C.F.R. 6 (1921): 212, 262. Dudding, Hist. of the Manor & Parish of Saleby with Thoresthorpe (1922): 54–73. VCH Essex 4 (1956): 65–68. Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 273: 1, 394: 4. Frame, English Lordship in Ireland, 1318–1361 (1982). Bennett, Beneficed Clergy in the Diocese of Lincoln during the Episcopate of Henry Burghersh, 1320–1340 2 (Ph.D. thesis, Univ. of York, 1989): 69, 89. Irish Hist. Studies 29 (1994): 100–104. Fryde & Greenway, Handbook of British Chronology (1996): 162. Jour. Galway Arch. & Hist. Soc. 67 (2015): 48–68. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/368, image 4687f (available at http://‌aalt.law.uh.edu/‌E3/‌CP40no368/‌aCP40no368fronts/‌IMG_4687.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/372, image 8343f (available at http://‌aalt.law.uh.edu/‌E3/‌CP40no372/‌aCP40no372fronts/‌IMG_8343.htm). National Archives, SC 8/57/2844; SC 8/78/3869A; SC 8/78/3869B (available at http://‌discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

Children of Robert de Haverington, Knt., by Elizabeth de Multon:

i. JOHN HARINGTON, Knt.

ii. ROBERT DE HARINGTON (or HAVERYNGTON), Knt., of Fleet, Moulton, and Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, died c.1389.

Child of Elizabeth de Multon, by Walter de Bermingham, Knt.:

i. WALTER DE BERMINGHAM, Knt., of Castle-Carbury and Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, and Schanbo, co. Kilkenny, Ireland, son and heir. He married MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE SCALES, daughter of Robert de Scales, Knt., 3rd Lord Scales, of Newsells (in Barkway), Hertfordshire, by Katherine, daughter of Robert de Ufford, K.G., 1st Earl of Suffolk, 2nd Lord Ufford [see SCALES 3 for her ancestry]. On 28 July 1358 Laurence de Flete, Knt., and Roger de Meers were admitted as guardians of Walter de Bermyngham, Knt., a minor, who by the king’s order was then going to Ireland, to sue and defend all pleas and quarrels for him in England for one year. SIR WALTER DE BERMINGHAM died 10 August 1361. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) before 10 March 1363 ROBERT HOWARD (or HAWARD), Knt. [see HOWARD 10], of East Winch, East Walton, Fersfield, Garboldisham, South Clenchwarton (in Clenchwarton), South Wootton, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Brokes (in Ipswich), Suffolk, etc., son and heir of John Howard (or Haward)), Knt., of Clenchwarton, East Winch, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Admiral of the Fleet north of the Thames, 1335, 1347, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1344–5, Escheator of Norfolk and Suffolk, by Alice, daughter of Robert de Bois, Knt. He was born about 1342 (aged 30 in 1372). They had three sons, John, Knt., Edmund, and Robert, and three daughters, Alice (nun at Thetford), Margaret (wife of Constantine de Clifton, Esq. or Gent., 2nd Lord Clifton, and Gilbert Talbot, Knt.), and Katherine. In 1362, going beyond seas with Thomas de Ufford, he had letters nominating Robert de Causton, Knt., and John Bertilmeu as his attorneys in England for two years. In Feb. 1363, staying in England, he had letters nominating John de Shardelowe, Knt., and John Bothevyll as his attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1363, he and Margaret his wife then staying in England, they had letters nominating John de Bothevill and William de Methele as their attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1366, he staying in England, he had letters nominating Robert Mayn and Richard de Walton as his attorneys in England in Ireland for one year. In 1368 he sued Edward de Saint Omer and others regarding a tenurial and prescriptive duty for tenements in Tilney, Norfolk to repair and sustain a wall against sea storms and freshwater flooding. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London in June 1378, for detaining Margery de Nerford from her grandmother, Lady Alice Neville, with the intention of resisting an appeal pending in the papal court in Margery’s suit to annul her contract of marriage with John de Brewes. In August 1378 Robert was released by decision of the Council, provided he make every effort to bring Margery before the Council at the quinzaine of Michaelmas next. On his failure to produce Margery, he was again arrested and released on mainprise 11 Dec. 1378, on Margery being brought before the Council 10 Dec. In 1379 he was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries or recognizances, and from being made a mayor, sheriff, escheator, coroner, etc. In 1379 Philip de Melreth, clerk, Simon, Archbishop of Canterbury, and three others, executors of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, sued Robert Howard, Knt. in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a reasonable account of the time he was receiver of money for the said earl. In 1381 William de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, and six others, acting as trustees of Sir Robert Howard, Knt. presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk. His trustees presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk in 1381. In 1386 he petitioned the king, requesting that the king order Thomas de Morley, Knt., and his colleagues to stay all proceedings in an assize of oyer and terminer into an alleged trespass by Howard and others at Bressingham, Norfolk; he further stated the assize was brought maliciously by Edmund Noon in retaliation for an assize brought against him by Robert and Margaret his wife over free tenements in Bressingham, Fersfield, and Tilney, Norfolk. In 1387 he sued John de Dalton the younger in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Garboldisham, Norfolk. SIR ROBERT HOWARD died at East Winch, Norfolk 18 July 1388. He left a will proved July 1389. In 1391 Margaret, widow of Robert Haward, Knt., John de Tudenham, Knt., William Haward, and others, executors of the will of Robert Howard, Knt., sued Ralph Champayn, of Bressingham, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £_ 15s. 8d. His widow, Margaret, presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk in 1391. In 1394–5 William Bolt and others were outlawed on an action by Margaret, widow of Robert Howard, Knt., for one third of a whale stranded at Terrington, Norfolk. In 1399 she sued Walter son of Henry Baldyng and three others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Terrington, Norfolk. The same year she sued John Ferour, of Tilney, Norfolk, in the Court of Commons Pleas regarding the detention of a horse. Margaret left a will dated 8 May 1416. Robert and Margaret his wife were buried in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.

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[1] William de Bermingham, Knt., and his brother, John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth, were children of Peter de Bermingham, of Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, Ireland [died before 1303], by his wife, Ela, daughter of William de Oddingseles, Knt., Justiciar of Ireland [see ODDINGSELES 8].



Michael Rochester

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Great information but alas I am a descendant of his brother and not Robert Harington!
Joan Dacre 1287-
20th great-grandmother
(Sir) John Harrington 1315-1363
Son of Joan Dacre
(Sir) Nicholas Harrington MP 1345-1404
Son of (Sir) John Harrington
Agnes Harrington 1375-1444
Daughter of (Sir) Nicholas Harrington MP
Richard Sherburne Esq 1400-1441
Son of Agnes Harrington
Robert Sherburne 1435-1495
Son of Richard Sherburne Esq
(Lady) Elizabeth Sherburne 1456-1505
Daughter of Robert Sherburne
(Sir) Thomas Fairfax 1475-1520
Son of (Lady) Elizabeth Sherburne
(Sir) Nicholas Fairfax 1499-1570
Son of (Sir) Thomas Fairfax
(Sir) William Fairfax Sheriff of Yorkshire 1530-1597
Son of (Sir) Nicholas Fairfax
(Sir) Thomas Fairfax Sheriff of Yorkshire 1574-1636
Son of (Sir) William Fairfax Sheriff of Yorkshire
Mary Fairfax 1600-1636
Daughter of (Sir) Thomas Fairfax Sheriff of Yorkshire
Catherine Layton 1618-1686
Daughter of Mary Fairfax
Layton (Laton) Eden Vicar of Hartburn 1645-1735
Son of Catherine Layton
Jane Eden 1710-1798
Daughter of Layton (Laton) Eden Vicar of Hartburn
Margaret Harle 1734-1818
Daughter of Jane Eden
George Eden Meggison 1756-1815

Michael Rochester

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Great research as usual. Unfortunately from me...I descend descend from daughters Ida and Margaret but not Ela!
(Sir) William Odingsells Justiciar of Ireland 1235-1295
22nd great-grandfather
Margaret Odingsells 1277-1330
Daughter of (Sir) William Odingsells Justiciar of Ireland
John Grey 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, KG 1300-1359
Son of Margaret Odingsells
(Sir) Robert Grey 1333-1367
Son of John Grey 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, KG
Elizabeth Grey 1364-1427
Daughter of (Sir) Robert Grey
Elizabeth FitzHugh 1410-1453
Daughter of Elizabeth Grey
(Sir) Ralph Grey Sheriff of Northumberland, Keeper of Roxburgh Castle 1428-1464
Son of Elizabeth FitzHugh
(Sir) Thomas Grey of Chillingham 1446-1498
Son of (Sir) Ralph Grey Sheriff of Northumberland, Keeper of Roxburgh Castle
Anne Grey 1469-1519
Daughter of (Sir) Thomas Grey of Chillingham
Margaret (Margery) Delaval 1493-
Daughter of Anne Grey
James Ogle Esq 1530-1598
Son of Margaret (Margery) Delaval
Robert Ogle 1568-
Son of James Ogle Esq
Dorothy Ogle 1605-
Daughter of Robert Ogle
Isabell Widdrington 1620-1705
Daughter of Dorothy Ogle
Philadelphia Fenwick 1652-1719
Daughter of Isabell Widdrington
Robert Harle 1675-1747
Son of Philadelphia Fenwick
Robert Harle 1709-1743
Son of Robert Harle
Margaret Harle 1734-1818
Daughter of Robert Harle
George Eden Meggison 1756-1815
Son of Margaret Harle

Betty Gorrie

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I know this is old, but I just found a Book: County Families of Lancashire & Cheshire, James Croston, FSA London 1887, at 243-247, it says that Juliana de Burlingham was the mother of two sons, Robert and John. There was a wife Joan, who was wife by at least 1336 I see in other works. but as I have a record of some children born 1307 and later, I think they are hers. But Robert and Joan are claimed to Juliana. I have not actually seen, but I expect if I looked I would find, Joan's last name and parentage. But they are not my family, so have not done so.

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