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John Watson
Feb 14, 2016, 10:38:42 AM2/14/16
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Hi all,
Complete Peerage, vol. 12, part 1, p. 264, states that Sir Nicholas de Stapleton of Haddesley and Carlton, Yorkshire, married before Hilary Term 1300/1, Isabel, daughter of John de Richmond of Constable Burton. Footnote (c) on this page gives the source of this statement as Baildon and the Baildons, pp. 330-33, citing a settlement made upon him by his father. However, CP also says that "Isabel's parentage is perhaps not fully proven." The family of Richmond of Constable Burton apparently died out in the fourteenth century, having sold or given away all their lands.
The settlement confirming the marriage of Nicholas de Stapleton and Isabel quoted by Baildon and CP, occurs in the feet of fines for Yorkshire:
20 January 1301, Octave of Hilary, Miles de Stapleton, querent, and William de la Haye, deforciant, of the manor of Stapleton, a messuage, 3 carucates of land and a rent of 10 marks 6s. 8d. in Austwyk' and Wykyngthorp'. Covenant. William's right. For this William has granted the same to Miles to hold for life of the chief lords, etc. Remainder to Nicholas son of Miles and Isabel his wife and Nicholas's heirs of Isabel's body to hold of the chief lords, etc. Further remainder to Nicholas's right heirs to hold of the chief lords.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/268/74, number 3.
However, this fine says nothing about Isabel's parentage. So I decided to look at the genealogy of the Richmond family of Constable Burton for any contemporary records of John de Richmond and his daughter Isabel. I must say at the outset that I have found none and Isabel's parentage is still not proven.
Early Yorkshire Charters, vol. 5: The Honour of Richmond, Part II (1936), pp. 89-94 covers the early members of the family, and there is a sketchy outline of their genealogy in VCH North Riding, vol. 1, p. 234. Below is a brief outline of their genealogy, mostly from contemporary sources.
1. Roald son of Alan (c. 1180 - 1247)
Roald son of Alan the constable of Richmond was of age in late 1201 when he paid relief for the 6-1/2 knight's fees that he held of the honour of Richmond [1]. He married firstly Sibyl [2], and married secondly Sarra [3]. He was living in March 1240 [4] but dead before 10 November 1247 when his grandson and heir, Roald son of Alan granted the manor of Aldborough in Richmondshire to Peter of Savoy [5]. Sarra survived him and married secondly Jocelyn Deiville [6].
Presumably by his first wife Sibyl, he had three sons:
- Alan, son and heir who was a hostage in June 1215 [7] and who predeceased his father, probably dying about 1240. His wife's name is unknown.
- Roald, to whom his father granted the manors of Bolton and Croft and who married Maud daughter of Robert de la Mare of Yafforth. He was still living on 30 April 1267 when as Roald de Croft he gave half a mark for an assize [8].
- Henry to whom his father granted the manor of Caldwell (in Stanwick St. John) and who married Julian. He died before November 1251, when his brother Roald claimed the manor of Caldwell from his nephew Roald son of Alan [9].
2. Roald son of Alan (c. 1225 - 1264)
He succeeded his grandfather, Roald son of Alan, before November 1247 when he granted the manor of Aldborough to Peter de Savoy [5]. He married before 1252, Isabel, daughter and sole heiress of Robert de Corkeby of Corby and Tercrosset, Cumberland [10]. He was living on 20 June 1263 when Roald de Richmond, was witness to a Lanercost charter [11], but dead before 13 February 1265 when Isabel his widow was married to Alan de Lascelles [12]. Alan de Lascelles died before 1283-4, when Isabel his widow, lady of Corkeby, granted land in Warwick, Cumberland to her cousin Robert (de Warwick) [13].
He and Isabel had one son, Roald.
3. Roald son of Roald de Richmond (c. 1250 - 1294)
He was underage at the death of his father. In 1266, the abbot of St. Agatha's, Easby sued Peter de Savoy, guardian of the lands of Roald son of Roald fitz Alan, and against Maud [de Vaux], wife of Thomas de Multon [of Gilsland], guardian of the body of the said heir, to warrant one third of 13 acres of wood and 300 acres of pasture in Hudswell, which Alan de Lascelles and Isabel his wife were claiming in dower [14]. He married Hawise, daughter of Thomas de Multon of Gilsland [15]. He appears to have been dead before July 1294, when Thomas, his son and heir, lord of Constable Burton, quitclaimed the manors of Croft and Jolby to Henry le Scrope [16].
He and Hawise had two sons:
- Thomas, son and heir
- Richard, quitclaimed his right in the manor of Corby to Andrew de Harcla in 1321. He was executor of his brother's will and was still alive in January 1332, when he claimed money from the crown owing to his brother Thomas [17].
4. Sir Thomas de Richmond (c. 1270 - 1316)
In July 1294, Thomas son and heir of Roald de Richmond, lord of Constable Burton, quitclaimed the manors of Croft and Jolby to Henry le Scrope [16]. He married Joan. He was a soldier on the Scottish borders for most of his life, at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300 and constable of Norham in 1310. In July 1314, he was granted the castle and honour of Cockermouth, Cumberland, for life [18]. He apparently died in a border clash late in 1316 [19].
Thomas and Joan had two sons:
- Roald, son and heir.
- Thomas. On 9 February 1329, Thomas de Richmond, son of Sir Thomas de Richmond, released to Sir Geoffrey le Scrope, knight, all his rights in the manor of Constable Burton [20].
5. Sir Roald de Richmond (c. 1290 - aft. 1338)
Roald is the last of the family of whom there is any record. He was married to Isabel before 10 February 1301 [21]. In June 1321 he released all his rights in the manor of Constable Burton to Geoffrey le Scrope [22] and in September 1321 quitclaimed his rights in the manor of Corby, Cumberland to Sir Andrew de Harcla [23]. He apparently married secondly Margaret, one of the three daughters of Robert de Mulcaster, of Newland and Uckmanby, Cumberland (died 2 November 1324) [24]. In October 1333, he was granted the custody of the castle of Carrickfergus, Ireland [25]. On 24 March 1337, he was ordered to surrender the castle, which was restored to him on 1 June, which order was revoked on 10 November, but the custody of the castle was restored to him on 18 December 1337 [26] and on 30 April 1338, he was granted custody of the castle for 12 years [27].
So there is no record of a John de Richmond of Constable Burton. In order for him to have a daughter who was married in or before 1301, he must have been a son of Roald de Richmond (died c 1294) or his son Sir Thomas de Richmond (d. 1316). However, there is no sign of a quitclaim from him of the family lands which came into the possession of the Scrope or Harcla families. IF Isabel was of this family, then she is most likely on chronological grounds to have been a daughter of Sir Thomas de Richmond (d. 1316).
Regards,
John
1. Thomas Duffus Hardy, ed., Rotuli de Oblatis et Finibus in Turri Londinensi Asservati Tempore Regis Johannes (London, 1835), 253.
2. William Farrer & C. T. Clay, eds., Early Yorkshire Charters, vol. 5: The Honour of Richmond, Part II (1936), 145, No. 249.
3. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/265/46, number 164.
4. Brigette Vale, Thesis; The Scropes of Bolton and Masham, vol. 2 (University of York, 1987), 7, No. 15.
5. Calendar of Charter Rolls, vol. 1, Henry III: 1226-1257 (1903), 327.
6. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/265/44, number 83.
7. Thomas Duffus Hardy, ed., Rotuli Litterarum Patentium in Turri Londoniensi Asservati, vol. 1 (London, 1835), 143b.
8. Calendar of Fine Rolls 51 Henry III, No. 403.
9. JUST1/1046, m. 21d. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/JUST1no1046/bJUST1no1046dorses/IMG_1866.htm
10. John M. Todd, The Lanerscost Cartulary, An Edition of MS DZ/1 in the Cumbria County Record Office, vol. 2, Ph.D Thesis (Lancaster, 1991), 362.
11. John M. Todd, The Lanerscost Cartulary, An Edition of MS DZ/1 in the Cumbria County Record Office, vol. 2, Ph.D Thesis (Lancaster, 1991), 261.
12. Charles Roberts, ed., Excerpta è Rotulis Finium in Turri Londinensi Asservatis, Henrico Tertio Rege, A.D. 1216-72, vol. 1 (London: Record Commission, 1835), 420.
13. William Hutchinson, The History of the County of Cumberland, vol. 1 (1794), 171.
14. William Paley Baildon, ed., Notes on the Religious and Secular Houses of Yorkshire, vol. 1, Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series 17, 1895, 45.
15. 'Parishes: Fingall', in A History of the County of York North Riding, vol. 1 (1914), 234
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol1/pp232-236
16. William Brown, ed., Yorkshire Deeds Vol. 2, Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series 50, 1914, 57.
17. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward III, vol. 2, 1330-1333 (1898), 432.
18. Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. 2, Edward II: 1307-1319 (1912), 203.
19. Joseph Bain, ed., Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland, vol. 1 (Edinburgh, 1881), xxv.
20. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward III, vol. 1: 1327-1330 (1896), 517.
21. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/268/74, number 10.
22. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward II, vol. 3, 1318-1323 (1895), 382.
23. Cumbria Archive Centre, Carlisle, Howard Family of Corby, D HC 2/2/3.
24. Special Collections: Ancient Petitions, SC 8/8/382.
25. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol. 2: 1330-1334 (1893), 472.
26. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol. 3: 1334-1338 (1895), 404, 458, 547, 560.
27. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol.4: 1338-1340 (1898), 53.
Complete Peerage, vol. 12, part 1, p. 264, states that Sir Nicholas de Stapleton of Haddesley and Carlton, Yorkshire, married before Hilary Term 1300/1, Isabel, daughter of John de Richmond of Constable Burton. Footnote (c) on this page gives the source of this statement as Baildon and the Baildons, pp. 330-33, citing a settlement made upon him by his father. However, CP also says that "Isabel's parentage is perhaps not fully proven." The family of Richmond of Constable Burton apparently died out in the fourteenth century, having sold or given away all their lands.
The settlement confirming the marriage of Nicholas de Stapleton and Isabel quoted by Baildon and CP, occurs in the feet of fines for Yorkshire:
20 January 1301, Octave of Hilary, Miles de Stapleton, querent, and William de la Haye, deforciant, of the manor of Stapleton, a messuage, 3 carucates of land and a rent of 10 marks 6s. 8d. in Austwyk' and Wykyngthorp'. Covenant. William's right. For this William has granted the same to Miles to hold for life of the chief lords, etc. Remainder to Nicholas son of Miles and Isabel his wife and Nicholas's heirs of Isabel's body to hold of the chief lords, etc. Further remainder to Nicholas's right heirs to hold of the chief lords.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/268/74, number 3.
However, this fine says nothing about Isabel's parentage. So I decided to look at the genealogy of the Richmond family of Constable Burton for any contemporary records of John de Richmond and his daughter Isabel. I must say at the outset that I have found none and Isabel's parentage is still not proven.
Early Yorkshire Charters, vol. 5: The Honour of Richmond, Part II (1936), pp. 89-94 covers the early members of the family, and there is a sketchy outline of their genealogy in VCH North Riding, vol. 1, p. 234. Below is a brief outline of their genealogy, mostly from contemporary sources.
1. Roald son of Alan (c. 1180 - 1247)
Roald son of Alan the constable of Richmond was of age in late 1201 when he paid relief for the 6-1/2 knight's fees that he held of the honour of Richmond [1]. He married firstly Sibyl [2], and married secondly Sarra [3]. He was living in March 1240 [4] but dead before 10 November 1247 when his grandson and heir, Roald son of Alan granted the manor of Aldborough in Richmondshire to Peter of Savoy [5]. Sarra survived him and married secondly Jocelyn Deiville [6].
Presumably by his first wife Sibyl, he had three sons:
- Alan, son and heir who was a hostage in June 1215 [7] and who predeceased his father, probably dying about 1240. His wife's name is unknown.
- Roald, to whom his father granted the manors of Bolton and Croft and who married Maud daughter of Robert de la Mare of Yafforth. He was still living on 30 April 1267 when as Roald de Croft he gave half a mark for an assize [8].
- Henry to whom his father granted the manor of Caldwell (in Stanwick St. John) and who married Julian. He died before November 1251, when his brother Roald claimed the manor of Caldwell from his nephew Roald son of Alan [9].
2. Roald son of Alan (c. 1225 - 1264)
He succeeded his grandfather, Roald son of Alan, before November 1247 when he granted the manor of Aldborough to Peter de Savoy [5]. He married before 1252, Isabel, daughter and sole heiress of Robert de Corkeby of Corby and Tercrosset, Cumberland [10]. He was living on 20 June 1263 when Roald de Richmond, was witness to a Lanercost charter [11], but dead before 13 February 1265 when Isabel his widow was married to Alan de Lascelles [12]. Alan de Lascelles died before 1283-4, when Isabel his widow, lady of Corkeby, granted land in Warwick, Cumberland to her cousin Robert (de Warwick) [13].
He and Isabel had one son, Roald.
3. Roald son of Roald de Richmond (c. 1250 - 1294)
He was underage at the death of his father. In 1266, the abbot of St. Agatha's, Easby sued Peter de Savoy, guardian of the lands of Roald son of Roald fitz Alan, and against Maud [de Vaux], wife of Thomas de Multon [of Gilsland], guardian of the body of the said heir, to warrant one third of 13 acres of wood and 300 acres of pasture in Hudswell, which Alan de Lascelles and Isabel his wife were claiming in dower [14]. He married Hawise, daughter of Thomas de Multon of Gilsland [15]. He appears to have been dead before July 1294, when Thomas, his son and heir, lord of Constable Burton, quitclaimed the manors of Croft and Jolby to Henry le Scrope [16].
He and Hawise had two sons:
- Thomas, son and heir
- Richard, quitclaimed his right in the manor of Corby to Andrew de Harcla in 1321. He was executor of his brother's will and was still alive in January 1332, when he claimed money from the crown owing to his brother Thomas [17].
4. Sir Thomas de Richmond (c. 1270 - 1316)
In July 1294, Thomas son and heir of Roald de Richmond, lord of Constable Burton, quitclaimed the manors of Croft and Jolby to Henry le Scrope [16]. He married Joan. He was a soldier on the Scottish borders for most of his life, at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300 and constable of Norham in 1310. In July 1314, he was granted the castle and honour of Cockermouth, Cumberland, for life [18]. He apparently died in a border clash late in 1316 [19].
Thomas and Joan had two sons:
- Roald, son and heir.
- Thomas. On 9 February 1329, Thomas de Richmond, son of Sir Thomas de Richmond, released to Sir Geoffrey le Scrope, knight, all his rights in the manor of Constable Burton [20].
5. Sir Roald de Richmond (c. 1290 - aft. 1338)
Roald is the last of the family of whom there is any record. He was married to Isabel before 10 February 1301 [21]. In June 1321 he released all his rights in the manor of Constable Burton to Geoffrey le Scrope [22] and in September 1321 quitclaimed his rights in the manor of Corby, Cumberland to Sir Andrew de Harcla [23]. He apparently married secondly Margaret, one of the three daughters of Robert de Mulcaster, of Newland and Uckmanby, Cumberland (died 2 November 1324) [24]. In October 1333, he was granted the custody of the castle of Carrickfergus, Ireland [25]. On 24 March 1337, he was ordered to surrender the castle, which was restored to him on 1 June, which order was revoked on 10 November, but the custody of the castle was restored to him on 18 December 1337 [26] and on 30 April 1338, he was granted custody of the castle for 12 years [27].
So there is no record of a John de Richmond of Constable Burton. In order for him to have a daughter who was married in or before 1301, he must have been a son of Roald de Richmond (died c 1294) or his son Sir Thomas de Richmond (d. 1316). However, there is no sign of a quitclaim from him of the family lands which came into the possession of the Scrope or Harcla families. IF Isabel was of this family, then she is most likely on chronological grounds to have been a daughter of Sir Thomas de Richmond (d. 1316).
Regards,
John
1. Thomas Duffus Hardy, ed., Rotuli de Oblatis et Finibus in Turri Londinensi Asservati Tempore Regis Johannes (London, 1835), 253.
2. William Farrer & C. T. Clay, eds., Early Yorkshire Charters, vol. 5: The Honour of Richmond, Part II (1936), 145, No. 249.
3. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/265/46, number 164.
4. Brigette Vale, Thesis; The Scropes of Bolton and Masham, vol. 2 (University of York, 1987), 7, No. 15.
5. Calendar of Charter Rolls, vol. 1, Henry III: 1226-1257 (1903), 327.
6. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/265/44, number 83.
7. Thomas Duffus Hardy, ed., Rotuli Litterarum Patentium in Turri Londoniensi Asservati, vol. 1 (London, 1835), 143b.
8. Calendar of Fine Rolls 51 Henry III, No. 403.
9. JUST1/1046, m. 21d. http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/JUST1no1046/bJUST1no1046dorses/IMG_1866.htm
10. John M. Todd, The Lanerscost Cartulary, An Edition of MS DZ/1 in the Cumbria County Record Office, vol. 2, Ph.D Thesis (Lancaster, 1991), 362.
11. John M. Todd, The Lanerscost Cartulary, An Edition of MS DZ/1 in the Cumbria County Record Office, vol. 2, Ph.D Thesis (Lancaster, 1991), 261.
12. Charles Roberts, ed., Excerpta è Rotulis Finium in Turri Londinensi Asservatis, Henrico Tertio Rege, A.D. 1216-72, vol. 1 (London: Record Commission, 1835), 420.
13. William Hutchinson, The History of the County of Cumberland, vol. 1 (1794), 171.
14. William Paley Baildon, ed., Notes on the Religious and Secular Houses of Yorkshire, vol. 1, Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series 17, 1895, 45.
15. 'Parishes: Fingall', in A History of the County of York North Riding, vol. 1 (1914), 234
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/yorks/north/vol1/pp232-236
16. William Brown, ed., Yorkshire Deeds Vol. 2, Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series 50, 1914, 57.
17. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward III, vol. 2, 1330-1333 (1898), 432.
18. Calendar of Fine Rolls, vol. 2, Edward II: 1307-1319 (1912), 203.
19. Joseph Bain, ed., Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland, vol. 1 (Edinburgh, 1881), xxv.
20. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward III, vol. 1: 1327-1330 (1896), 517.
21. Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/268/74, number 10.
22. Calendar of Close Rolls, Edward II, vol. 3, 1318-1323 (1895), 382.
23. Cumbria Archive Centre, Carlisle, Howard Family of Corby, D HC 2/2/3.
24. Special Collections: Ancient Petitions, SC 8/8/382.
25. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol. 2: 1330-1334 (1893), 472.
26. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol. 3: 1334-1338 (1895), 404, 458, 547, 560.
27. Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III, vol.4: 1338-1340 (1898), 53.
Peter Howarth
Feb 14, 2016, 2:17:35 PM2/14/16
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Rowaud le Conestable de Richemond (Glover's Roll (c.1253) B 213) = Roald d.1264
Raiaunt (Rowant, Briaunt, Raramonde) de Richemund (Rychmonde, Richemound) (St George's Roll (c.1285) E 384) = Roald d.1294
Ronant de Richmund (Collins' Roll (c.1296) Q 209) = Roald d.1294
Thomas de Richemund (Lord Marshal's Roll (c.1295) LM 251) = Thomas d.1316
Thomas de Richemont (Caerlaverock Poem (1300) K 95) = Thomas d.1316
Sir Thomas de Richemounde (Galloway Roll (1300) GA 246) = Thomas d.1316
Sir Thomas de Richemond (Nativity Roll (1307-8) M 58) = Thomas d.1316
Sire Thomas de Rugemend (Parliamentary Roll (c.1312) N 1062) = Thomas d.1316
Sr Rohaut de Richmond (Cooke's Ordinary (c.1340) CKO 279) = Roald d.<1338
Monsire Rohaine de Richmont (Cotgrave's Ordinary (c.1340) CG 193) = Roald d.<1338
Mons' Roald de Richemonde (Thomas Jenyns' Book (c.1410*) TJ 780) = Roald d.<1338
Mons Roland de Rychemound (William Jenyns' Ordinary (c.1360-80*) WJ 551) = Roald d.<1338
The last entry is followed immediately by
John de Richemound (WJ 552) who bears 'gules, two bars gemel and a chief or, in dexter chief a crescent sable'.
This suggests he was a younger son contemporary with Roald d.<1338.
There are also seals, with the undifferenced arms, from 1297 for Sir Thomas (Yorks Deeds v. 124) and from 1320 for his widow Joan (Yorks Deeds vii. 60 & 62).
Peter Howarth
* These dates are when the rolls were compiled, but both of these rolls also copied entries from earlier rolls c.1340. Except for the occasional rolls (Caerlaverock, Galloway, Nativity) all the others would have been compiled over a period of time.
Peter Howarth
Mar 1, 2016, 3:55:50 AM3/1/16
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p 53, no 144, 12 Dec 1261, s.v. Constable Burton: agreement between Sir Roald son of Roald and Maud de la Mara his wife, on one part, and Sir Roald son of Alan on the other.
The first Sir Roald is a son of Roald of Bolton and Croft, second son of the elder Roald son of Alan who d.1247; the second Sir Roald is the younger Roald son of Alan who d.1264.
p 142, no 414, n.d., s.v. Kiplin: grant by Thomas de Richemund to Elizabeth, daughter of Robert de Hertefford, and Robert de Richemund, his son.
This gives Thomas d.1316 an additional son, Robert. Elizabeth de Hertford's seal with impaled arms is a little unusual in that her father's arms appear on the dexter side and her husband's on the sinister, rather than the other way round. Her father, Sir Robert de Hertford of Flawith, was an attorney and justice who d. before 25 Sep 1302 s.p.m.
Peter Howarth
John Watson
Mar 1, 2016, 10:26:43 AM3/1/16
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Thanks for the additional references. Quite by chance, I was trying to figure out recently where Robert de Hartforth (or Hertford) fits in with the family of Hartforth of Hartforth. He married Alexandra, sister of Harsculf de Cleseby. He first appears in legal records, acting as a serjeant in the early 1270's. He was appointed a justice of the Common Bench in January 1290. He remained a justice of the court until Easter term 1294, when he resigned his position in order to accompany the earl of Lincoln on the king's service to Gascony, where he may have died. He was dead by May 1297 when his executors repaid a loan made to him by the king.
I don't think that Robert de Hartforth was of Flawith, although he had a royal licence to cut down trees there in 1294. He appears to have held the manor of Bellerby, 2 carucates in Stainton, and 6 bovates in Walburn, as well as land in Hartforth, Gilling West and Barningham; all near Richmond.
Regards,
John
Peter Howarth
Mar 3, 2016, 3:20:43 AM3/3/16
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Thanks yet again. Is Harsculf de Cleseby, Robert de Hartforth's brother-in-law, likely to be the eldest surviving son and heir of Robert Rufus of Cleasby (VCH: North Riding (1914) i. pp 158-160 s.v. Cleasby)?
Peter Howarth
Peter Howarth
John Watson
Mar 3, 2016, 4:35:17 AM3/3/16
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On Thursday, 3 March 2016 08:20:43 UTC, Peter Howarth wrote:
> Thanks yet again. Is Harsculf de Cleseby, Robert de Hartforth's brother-in-law, likely to be the eldest surviving son and heir of Robert Rufus of Cleasby (VCH: North Riding (1914) i. pp 158-160 s.v. Cleasby)?
>
> Peter Howarth
Hi Peter,
> Thanks yet again. Is Harsculf de Cleseby, Robert de Hartforth's brother-in-law, likely to be the eldest surviving son and heir of Robert Rufus of Cleasby (VCH: North Riding (1914) i. pp 158-160 s.v. Cleasby)?
>
> Peter Howarth
I have Robert, Harsculf and Alexandra as children of William de Cleasby who died about 1277. However, the Cleasby pedigree is uncertain and what I have, from contemporary documents mainly, does not match up with the very sketchy account in VCH North Riding.
The Cleasby pedigree that I have is outlined briefly below:
1. Harsculf Rufus d. c. 1160
2. Robert fitz Harsculf d. aft. 1194
3. Robert de Cleasby d. c. 1224 = Agatha dau. of Alan fitz Roald
4. Harsculf de Cleasby (aka de Aldbrough) d. c. 1269
5. William de Cleasby d. bef. 1277 = Maud
6a. Robert de Cleasby d. aft. 1306 = Amabel
Their daughter Emma married 1. Robert de Hastang (d. 1336) 2. Henry fitz Hugh (d. 1356)
6b. Harsculf de Cleasby (of Marske) d. aft 1307 = Agnes
6c. Alexandra de Cleasby = Robert de Hartforth (d. c. 1297)
7. William de Cleasby (son of Harsculf 6b) d. vp. bef. Sep 1296 = dau. of William le Scrope
8a. John de Cleasby d. aft. 1317
8b. Harsculf de Cleasby d. aft. 1329
I haven't traced the family any further.
Regards,
John
John Watson
Mar 3, 2016, 5:33:03 AM3/3/16
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In case you are wondering how I know that Alexandra was a sister to Harsculf de Cleasby. The information comes from a not too reliable source:-
26 Ed. I.-- Alexandra, who was the wife of Robert de Hertford, versus Robert de Tatershale, senior, and Juliana his wife, custody of the lands and heir of Robert de Hertford.
30 Ed. I.-- John fil William de Cleseby versus Thomas de Hertford and Alexandra, mother to the said Thomas, John Ra, and Thomas his son -- deplito nove desscis.
30 Ed. I.-- John de Cleseby versus Harsculphus de Cleseby, Thomas de Hertford, Alexandra, wife of Robert de Hertford, John Ra de Washington and Thomas Ra de Washington -- plea of land.
30 Ed. I.-- Alexandra, who was the wife of Robert de Hertford and sister to Harsculph de Cleseby, defendant in a plea touching lands in Dounholm.
2 Ed. II.-- John Walker of Downham versus Alexandra, wife of Robert de Hertford, Thomas fil Robert de Hertford, John Ra and John Cleseby -- common of pasture in Downham.
George H. Plantagenet-Harrison, The History of Yorkshire, vol. 1: Wapentake of Gilling West (1879), 101.
Regards,
John
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