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C.P. Addition: Death date of Alice de Arundel, wife of Sir Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave (died 1325)
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Douglas Richardson
May 24, 2016, 5:29:28 PM5/24/16
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Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 608–609 (sub Segrave) includes an account of Sir Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave, who died in 1325. The following information is provided by Complete Peerage regarding his marriage:
"He [Stephen] married Alice, said to be daughter of _____ Arundell, and [he] died before 12 Dec. 1325. He was buried at Chaucombe priory. Alice survived him." END OF QUOTE.
The following sources are cited to prove that Alice, wife of Stephen de Segrave, survived him:
Cal. Inq. p.m., vol. vi, no. 700; Cal. Close Rolls, 1323-27, pp. 453, 486; 1327-30, p. 178.
So far, so good.
Back in 2002, I presented conclusive evidence which identifies Alice, wife of Sir Stephen de Segrave, as a daughter of Richard Fitz Alan (or de Arundel), Knt., 8th Earl of Arundel, by his wife, Alice (or Alasia) di Saluzzo. Please see the newsgroup archives at the following weblink:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2002-03/1015099327
It has been alleged in print that Alice, Lady Segrave, died 7 February 1340. The source for this death date is an ancient obituary of Alice de Segrave found in extracts from Registers of the Priory of Chacombe, as published in Catalogue of the Arundel MSS. in the Library of the College of Arms (1829): 91.
The obituary entry reads as follows:
“Alesia de Segrave obiit vij idus Febr. [7 Feb.] Anno d’ni M ccc xl [1340].”
This evidence seems fairly straightforward.
However, recently I found a Common Pleas lawsuit which proves that Alice, widow of Stephen de Segrave, was living at Easter term 1342. Below is a brief abstract of this lawsuit:
In Easter term 1342 John le Walshe, of Great Sherston, Wiltshire sued Alice, widow of Stephen de Segrave, in the Court of Common Pleas in a Leicestershire plea regarding a messuage; John son and heir of Stephen de Segrave was called to warranty. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/330, image 62f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/E3/CP40no330/aCP40no330fronts/IMG_0062.htm).
In summary, an ancient obituary at Chaucombe Priory records that Alice de Segrave died in 1340. However, the Common Pleas lawsuit cited above indicates that Alice was still living in Easter term 1342.
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Alice de Arundel, wife of Sir Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave.
Robert Abell, William Asfordby, Barbara Aubrey, Dorothy Beresford, Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Joseph Bolles, Elizabeth Bosvile, Charles Calvert, James Cudworth, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, John Fenwick, Henry Fleete, Edward Foliot, William Goddard, Muriel Gurdon, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Thomas Ligon, Nathaniel Littleton, Thomas Lloyd, Thomas Lunsford, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Richard More, Philip & Thomas Nelson, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Henry & William Randolph, George Reade, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, Olive Welby, John West, Hawte Wyatt.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 608–609 (sub Segrave) includes an account of Sir Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave, who died in 1325. The following information is provided by Complete Peerage regarding his marriage:
"He [Stephen] married Alice, said to be daughter of _____ Arundell, and [he] died before 12 Dec. 1325. He was buried at Chaucombe priory. Alice survived him." END OF QUOTE.
The following sources are cited to prove that Alice, wife of Stephen de Segrave, survived him:
Cal. Inq. p.m., vol. vi, no. 700; Cal. Close Rolls, 1323-27, pp. 453, 486; 1327-30, p. 178.
So far, so good.
Back in 2002, I presented conclusive evidence which identifies Alice, wife of Sir Stephen de Segrave, as a daughter of Richard Fitz Alan (or de Arundel), Knt., 8th Earl of Arundel, by his wife, Alice (or Alasia) di Saluzzo. Please see the newsgroup archives at the following weblink:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2002-03/1015099327
It has been alleged in print that Alice, Lady Segrave, died 7 February 1340. The source for this death date is an ancient obituary of Alice de Segrave found in extracts from Registers of the Priory of Chacombe, as published in Catalogue of the Arundel MSS. in the Library of the College of Arms (1829): 91.
The obituary entry reads as follows:
“Alesia de Segrave obiit vij idus Febr. [7 Feb.] Anno d’ni M ccc xl [1340].”
This evidence seems fairly straightforward.
However, recently I found a Common Pleas lawsuit which proves that Alice, widow of Stephen de Segrave, was living at Easter term 1342. Below is a brief abstract of this lawsuit:
In Easter term 1342 John le Walshe, of Great Sherston, Wiltshire sued Alice, widow of Stephen de Segrave, in the Court of Common Pleas in a Leicestershire plea regarding a messuage; John son and heir of Stephen de Segrave was called to warranty. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/330, image 62f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/E3/CP40no330/aCP40no330fronts/IMG_0062.htm).
In summary, an ancient obituary at Chaucombe Priory records that Alice de Segrave died in 1340. However, the Common Pleas lawsuit cited above indicates that Alice was still living in Easter term 1342.
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the numerous 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Alice de Arundel, wife of Sir Stephen de Segrave, 3rd Lord Segrave.
Robert Abell, William Asfordby, Barbara Aubrey, Dorothy Beresford, Essex Beville, William Bladen, George & Nehemiah Blakiston, Joseph Bolles, Elizabeth Bosvile, Charles Calvert, James Cudworth, Frances, Jane & Katherine Deighton, John Fenwick, Henry Fleete, Edward Foliot, William Goddard, Muriel Gurdon, Anne Humphrey, Mary Launce, Thomas Ligon, Nathaniel Littleton, Thomas Lloyd, Thomas Lunsford, Anne, Elizabeth & John Mansfield, Richard More, Philip & Thomas Nelson, Thomas Owsley, John Oxenbridge, Herbert Pelham, Henry & William Randolph, George Reade, Diana & Grey Skipwith, Mary Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, Olive Welby, John West, Hawte Wyatt.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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