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Descent of Denton, Vavasour to Thwaites to Fairfax
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TJ Booth_sbc
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As noted in my last Gascoigne post, when the male line of the Vavasour of Denton family failed, Denton was inherited by the Brocas family of Beaurepaire. The traditional descent of Denton, as stated in numerous secondary sources, has it going from William Brocas Sr. of Beaurepaire, grandson of Agnes Vavasour (the last Vavasor heir), to John Vavasour of Weston. See for instance William Brocas' parliamentary history bio.[1] If indeed that happened, there would need to be a further transaction - either a marriage or a sale - to explain how Thwaites acquired Denton from Vavasour of Weston. But no such transaction is found, and no male Thwaites m. a Vavasour of Weston dau in this time period.
Related to this, in 2005, John Ravilious noted that Thomas Thwaites of Denton m. Alice de la Haye.[1] From this couple, he documented a descent to Isabel Thwaites, who m. William Fairfax. That couple has many descendants including colonial immigrant William Bladen. But the parents of Alice de la Hayes' husband were identified as John Thwaites m. Jane Morton, and the question of how John Thwaites's son Thomas acquired Denton was not addressed.
W Paley Baildon provided a well documented history of the Vavasour of Weston family, portions cited in my Gascoigne post with the Vavasour of Denton descent (ending in the above noted William Brocas). Importantly, Baildon's documents do not identify Denton as being held by later generations of the Vavasour of Weston line. But Baildon does cite a curious 1429 record in which John Thwaytes, Sir William Ryther, Sir William Gascoigne and others complained that John Vavasour had unjustly disseized them of their properties at Denton, Askwith and elsewhere.[3] Their complaint attempted to reject a Vavasour claim that they were the heirs of Agnes Vavasor d.1429 (she had m. but later divorced William Broca's father, her second husband being Henry Langfield).
That complaint, apparently decided in favor of Vavasour, is likely the source of the myth that Vavasour of Weston acquired Denton. According to Baildon, Vavasour of Weston's Denton claim was initially accepted only due a technical flaw in the filing. He also cited that in 1432, William Brocas sued John Vavasour of Weston for an accounting of Brocas' 'monies at Denton'. Nor could Baildon cite any later Vavasour of Weston records involving Denton.
Other records make clear that William Brocas sold/granted his mother's Denton and other properties about the time she died, but they went to John Thwaites of Lofthouse. While a record of the transaction itself itself has not been found, recall Jakub's feudal aides' records for 1428, in which William Gascoigne (as feoffee) and John Thwaites held Denton and Ulsyngton (surely Wolsington). Askwith was held by William Gascoigne and Thomas Middleton.
In the end, ownership of Denton was apparently decided by arbitration, as noted in a 14 Sep 1430 A2A document.[4] There is also a plethora of Vavasour of Denton documents, found in Robert Glover's papers, that shed light on this.[5] Since they are in latin, I am unable to fully translate them, but the evidence is clear that Denton was acquired by John Thwaites, afterwards descended to his son Thomas and his wife Alicia de la Haye, and later went to William Fairfax.
1. In 10 Hen VI (1431/32) John Thwaites enfeoffed(?) Sir William Gascoigne with 'my manor of Denton';[6]
2. John Thwaites and his [likely new] wife Isabel [Ryther] were regranted Denton with a new entail, first to their [future] male heirs, then to John's son Thomas and his male heirs, then the male heirs of John's dau Matilda m. John Middleton, and then the right heirs of John.[7] This was likely associated with John's marriage to Isabel Ryther. Other records support that John Thwaites' dau Maud did indeed m. John Middleton of Stockeld, from whom descend later Middletons of Stockeld.
3. John Thwaites granted Denton to his son Thomas, and Thomas' wife Alicia dau of Thomas del Hay in 37 Hen VI (1468/69) [8] By this it is clear that Thwaites had no male issue by his 2nd wife, and Thomas m. Alicia de la Haye was the heir of Denton.
4. According to a memorial, John Thwaites was a respected lawyer b. 1403, d. in 1469, and was buried in Harewood Church, his wife Isabel surviving him.[9] Memorials of their burial there [including her surname] are noted in numerous sources.
5.On 14 Jun 22 Hen VIII (1530), Denton was settled on William Fairfax Esq. and his wife Isabel [Thwaites].[10]
Returning to Ravilious' Thwaites pedigree, the mother of Thomas Thwaites was Jane Thornton. Evidence of this is in fact well documented based on the Lardiner of Leake pedigree, and the fact that the Thornton's Davy Hall was a property later held by Fairfax. John Thwaites m. Jane Thornton about 1415/16 - "5 Apr 3 Henry V [1415/16], I Robert Thornton, of Davygate, doth give and grant to John Thwaits and Joan his wife, my daughter, all my lands in the parish of Leake, and in the town of Skelton in the Forest, etc."[11]
All of the above makes clear, that John Thwaites, father of Thomas m. Alice de la Haye, had not one but two wives, for in no other way can the descent of both Denton and Davy Hall be explained. He m.(1) Jane Thornton bef 5 Apr 1415, who d. bef 1440. He m.(2) Isabel Ryther abt. 1440, she outliving her husband who d. 1469. While there are (or at least were) memorials to John Thwaites and 2nd wife Isabel in Harewood Church, evidence of his 1st wife's burial is lacking. The entail cited above also proves that John Thwaites had no male issue by his second wife, since Denton descended to Thomas, son of John Thwaites' 1st wife.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
Footnotes
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[1] William Brocas (c. 1379-1456) @ http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/brocas-william-1379-1456
[2] http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2005-09/1127381727
[3] W Paley Baildon; Baildon of Baildon; 1925; page 524, citing a 1429/30, Lent assizes entry in the Assize Roll 1542 m. 8d.
Sir William Ryther, Sir William Gascoigne, Thomas Clarell, Alvery Manston, John Thwaytes, Henry Chaumber and Henry Thwaytes complained that William de Midelton, John Vavasour, Richard Vavasour . . had unjustly disseized them of their free tenement in Denton, Askewyth, Wolston and Burley, namely in the manors of Denton and Wolston . . and two parts of the manor of Askewyth. Judgement was given to the defendants on a technical flaw in the plaintiff's writ."
[4] UK National Archives [A2A] ; WYL639/212; 14 Sep 1430. Bond of Thomas Clarell, esq., and John Thwaytes of Lofthous, gent., to John Vavasour, esq., in £1,000 to observe an arbitration relating to property at Denton, Wolleston, Askwith, Burley and Elslak. On the feast of the Exaltation of the Cross 9 Henry VI. 2 seals on tongues: (1) chipped, a quatrefoil; (2) ? an animal with a long tail. Both small, red wax.
[5] Vavasour Memorandum, in Miscellanea Geneaologica et Heraldica; Vol II (1876); pages 270-276 @ books.google.com/books?id=PSQFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA270
[6] Ibid.; page 275 "Ego Johannes Thwaytes dedi Will'mo Gascoigne militi annalem redditum decern librar' percipiendum de Manerio meo de Denton, &c. Dat apud Denton, anno 10 H. 6."
[7] Ibid.; page 275. "Nos Williamis Ryther chivaler et Robertus de Thwaytes clericus, dedimus Johani de Thwaytes et Isabellas vxori eius et haeredibus masculis de corporibus suis legitime procreatis medietatem Manerii de Denton &c. pro defectu' rem' Thomas de Thwaytes filio praedicti Johanis et haeredibus masculis, pro defectu' rem' Matildas vxori Johannis Myddelton filias praedicti Johannis Thwaytes et haeredibus masculis, pro defectu' rem' rectis haeredibus praedicti Johanis Thwaytes &c. Dat apud Denton anno 18 H. 6. [1439/40]"
[8] Ibid.; page 275. "Omnibus &c. Johannes Thwaytes salutmm. Cum Thomas Thwaytes filius meus et Alicia filia Thomas del Hay uxor sua habeant et teneant illis et haeredibus de corpore pr[aedicti] Thomas Thwaytes exeuntibus med. M[anorem] de Denton in Quardell ex dono Williami Ryther militis, Roberti Thwaytes clerici et Will'mi Thwaytes &c. Dat' anno 37 H. sexti."
[9] John Jones;History and Antiquities of Harewood; London; Simpkin; 1859; page 125 @ http://books.google.com/books?id=rroHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA125
[10] Vavasour Memorandum; op.cit.; Page 275. "Henricus octavus Dei gratia Anglias et Prancias Rex fidei defensor et Dominus Hiberniae Salutem. Praecipe Willielmo Fayrfax Armigero et Isabella vxori suae vt iuste et sine dilatione reddant Christophero Thwaytes armigero Maneriu' de Denton &c. quae Ricard Redman, Robertus Ardyngton, et Robertus Sykergwen dederunt Thomas Thwaytes filio Johanis Thwaytes et hasredibus masculis de corpore eiusdem Thomas exeuntibus, Et qua post mortem d'c'i Thomas, et Johanis filij et haeredis eiusdem Thomas, Thomas fjilij praedicti Johanis filij praedicti Thomas, et Johannis filij et haeredis praedicti Thomas filij Johannis, prasfato Christophero fratri praedicti Thomas filij praedicti Johannis, consanguineo et haeredi praedicti Johanis filij praedictii Thomas descendere debent per formam donationis praedictas vt dicitur &c. Rad's Ellerkar iunior miles mandauit executioni hoc bre regis 14 die Junii anno 22 H. octaui [1530]."
[11] Lardiner to Thwaites to Fairfax pedigree, with related sources; in Thomas Widdrington; Analecta Eboracensia: Some Remaynes of the Ancient City of York; London; Clark; 1897; pages 258-260. Also see Appendix page 307-310. Online @ http://books.google.com/books?id=mzhAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA258
Related to this, in 2005, John Ravilious noted that Thomas Thwaites of Denton m. Alice de la Haye.[1] From this couple, he documented a descent to Isabel Thwaites, who m. William Fairfax. That couple has many descendants including colonial immigrant William Bladen. But the parents of Alice de la Hayes' husband were identified as John Thwaites m. Jane Morton, and the question of how John Thwaites's son Thomas acquired Denton was not addressed.
W Paley Baildon provided a well documented history of the Vavasour of Weston family, portions cited in my Gascoigne post with the Vavasour of Denton descent (ending in the above noted William Brocas). Importantly, Baildon's documents do not identify Denton as being held by later generations of the Vavasour of Weston line. But Baildon does cite a curious 1429 record in which John Thwaytes, Sir William Ryther, Sir William Gascoigne and others complained that John Vavasour had unjustly disseized them of their properties at Denton, Askwith and elsewhere.[3] Their complaint attempted to reject a Vavasour claim that they were the heirs of Agnes Vavasor d.1429 (she had m. but later divorced William Broca's father, her second husband being Henry Langfield).
That complaint, apparently decided in favor of Vavasour, is likely the source of the myth that Vavasour of Weston acquired Denton. According to Baildon, Vavasour of Weston's Denton claim was initially accepted only due a technical flaw in the filing. He also cited that in 1432, William Brocas sued John Vavasour of Weston for an accounting of Brocas' 'monies at Denton'. Nor could Baildon cite any later Vavasour of Weston records involving Denton.
Other records make clear that William Brocas sold/granted his mother's Denton and other properties about the time she died, but they went to John Thwaites of Lofthouse. While a record of the transaction itself itself has not been found, recall Jakub's feudal aides' records for 1428, in which William Gascoigne (as feoffee) and John Thwaites held Denton and Ulsyngton (surely Wolsington). Askwith was held by William Gascoigne and Thomas Middleton.
In the end, ownership of Denton was apparently decided by arbitration, as noted in a 14 Sep 1430 A2A document.[4] There is also a plethora of Vavasour of Denton documents, found in Robert Glover's papers, that shed light on this.[5] Since they are in latin, I am unable to fully translate them, but the evidence is clear that Denton was acquired by John Thwaites, afterwards descended to his son Thomas and his wife Alicia de la Haye, and later went to William Fairfax.
1. In 10 Hen VI (1431/32) John Thwaites enfeoffed(?) Sir William Gascoigne with 'my manor of Denton';[6]
2. John Thwaites and his [likely new] wife Isabel [Ryther] were regranted Denton with a new entail, first to their [future] male heirs, then to John's son Thomas and his male heirs, then the male heirs of John's dau Matilda m. John Middleton, and then the right heirs of John.[7] This was likely associated with John's marriage to Isabel Ryther. Other records support that John Thwaites' dau Maud did indeed m. John Middleton of Stockeld, from whom descend later Middletons of Stockeld.
3. John Thwaites granted Denton to his son Thomas, and Thomas' wife Alicia dau of Thomas del Hay in 37 Hen VI (1468/69) [8] By this it is clear that Thwaites had no male issue by his 2nd wife, and Thomas m. Alicia de la Haye was the heir of Denton.
4. According to a memorial, John Thwaites was a respected lawyer b. 1403, d. in 1469, and was buried in Harewood Church, his wife Isabel surviving him.[9] Memorials of their burial there [including her surname] are noted in numerous sources.
5.On 14 Jun 22 Hen VIII (1530), Denton was settled on William Fairfax Esq. and his wife Isabel [Thwaites].[10]
Returning to Ravilious' Thwaites pedigree, the mother of Thomas Thwaites was Jane Thornton. Evidence of this is in fact well documented based on the Lardiner of Leake pedigree, and the fact that the Thornton's Davy Hall was a property later held by Fairfax. John Thwaites m. Jane Thornton about 1415/16 - "5 Apr 3 Henry V [1415/16], I Robert Thornton, of Davygate, doth give and grant to John Thwaits and Joan his wife, my daughter, all my lands in the parish of Leake, and in the town of Skelton in the Forest, etc."[11]
All of the above makes clear, that John Thwaites, father of Thomas m. Alice de la Haye, had not one but two wives, for in no other way can the descent of both Denton and Davy Hall be explained. He m.(1) Jane Thornton bef 5 Apr 1415, who d. bef 1440. He m.(2) Isabel Ryther abt. 1440, she outliving her husband who d. 1469. While there are (or at least were) memorials to John Thwaites and 2nd wife Isabel in Harewood Church, evidence of his 1st wife's burial is lacking. The entail cited above also proves that John Thwaites had no male issue by his second wife, since Denton descended to Thomas, son of John Thwaites' 1st wife.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
Footnotes
---------
[1] William Brocas (c. 1379-1456) @ http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/brocas-william-1379-1456
[2] http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/gen-medieval/2005-09/1127381727
[3] W Paley Baildon; Baildon of Baildon; 1925; page 524, citing a 1429/30, Lent assizes entry in the Assize Roll 1542 m. 8d.
Sir William Ryther, Sir William Gascoigne, Thomas Clarell, Alvery Manston, John Thwaytes, Henry Chaumber and Henry Thwaytes complained that William de Midelton, John Vavasour, Richard Vavasour . . had unjustly disseized them of their free tenement in Denton, Askewyth, Wolston and Burley, namely in the manors of Denton and Wolston . . and two parts of the manor of Askewyth. Judgement was given to the defendants on a technical flaw in the plaintiff's writ."
[4] UK National Archives [A2A] ; WYL639/212; 14 Sep 1430. Bond of Thomas Clarell, esq., and John Thwaytes of Lofthous, gent., to John Vavasour, esq., in £1,000 to observe an arbitration relating to property at Denton, Wolleston, Askwith, Burley and Elslak. On the feast of the Exaltation of the Cross 9 Henry VI. 2 seals on tongues: (1) chipped, a quatrefoil; (2) ? an animal with a long tail. Both small, red wax.
[5] Vavasour Memorandum, in Miscellanea Geneaologica et Heraldica; Vol II (1876); pages 270-276 @ books.google.com/books?id=PSQFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA270
[6] Ibid.; page 275 "Ego Johannes Thwaytes dedi Will'mo Gascoigne militi annalem redditum decern librar' percipiendum de Manerio meo de Denton, &c. Dat apud Denton, anno 10 H. 6."
[7] Ibid.; page 275. "Nos Williamis Ryther chivaler et Robertus de Thwaytes clericus, dedimus Johani de Thwaytes et Isabellas vxori eius et haeredibus masculis de corporibus suis legitime procreatis medietatem Manerii de Denton &c. pro defectu' rem' Thomas de Thwaytes filio praedicti Johanis et haeredibus masculis, pro defectu' rem' Matildas vxori Johannis Myddelton filias praedicti Johannis Thwaytes et haeredibus masculis, pro defectu' rem' rectis haeredibus praedicti Johanis Thwaytes &c. Dat apud Denton anno 18 H. 6. [1439/40]"
[8] Ibid.; page 275. "Omnibus &c. Johannes Thwaytes salutmm. Cum Thomas Thwaytes filius meus et Alicia filia Thomas del Hay uxor sua habeant et teneant illis et haeredibus de corpore pr[aedicti] Thomas Thwaytes exeuntibus med. M[anorem] de Denton in Quardell ex dono Williami Ryther militis, Roberti Thwaytes clerici et Will'mi Thwaytes &c. Dat' anno 37 H. sexti."
[9] John Jones;History and Antiquities of Harewood; London; Simpkin; 1859; page 125 @ http://books.google.com/books?id=rroHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA125
[10] Vavasour Memorandum; op.cit.; Page 275. "Henricus octavus Dei gratia Anglias et Prancias Rex fidei defensor et Dominus Hiberniae Salutem. Praecipe Willielmo Fayrfax Armigero et Isabella vxori suae vt iuste et sine dilatione reddant Christophero Thwaytes armigero Maneriu' de Denton &c. quae Ricard Redman, Robertus Ardyngton, et Robertus Sykergwen dederunt Thomas Thwaytes filio Johanis Thwaytes et hasredibus masculis de corpore eiusdem Thomas exeuntibus, Et qua post mortem d'c'i Thomas, et Johanis filij et haeredis eiusdem Thomas, Thomas fjilij praedicti Johanis filij praedicti Thomas, et Johannis filij et haeredis praedicti Thomas filij Johannis, prasfato Christophero fratri praedicti Thomas filij praedicti Johannis, consanguineo et haeredi praedicti Johanis filij praedictii Thomas descendere debent per formam donationis praedictas vt dicitur &c. Rad's Ellerkar iunior miles mandauit executioni hoc bre regis 14 die Junii anno 22 H. octaui [1530]."
[11] Lardiner to Thwaites to Fairfax pedigree, with related sources; in Thomas Widdrington; Analecta Eboracensia: Some Remaynes of the Ancient City of York; London; Clark; 1897; pages 258-260. Also see Appendix page 307-310. Online @ http://books.google.com/books?id=mzhAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA258
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