BURKE, Earls of Clanricarde

[Larry Coats]

Might anyone have some basic data(births,deaths,marriages)for the first three earls of Clanricarde? I am referring to the creation of 1543, which begins with Ulick Burke(d. 1544). I have his son, by a first marriage to Graine O'Carroll, as being Rickard Burke, but no details. Also have a note that the 3rd earl(nameless also)married a Margaret_______) and had a dau., Honora, who married Sir Nicholas Malby.
If anyone can fill in these blanks, please advise.
Thanks,
Larry

[Chris Phillips]

Larry Coats wrote:
> Might anyone have some basic data(births,deaths,marriages)for the first
three earls of Clanricarde? I am referring to the creation of 1543, which
begins with Ulick Burke(d. 1544). I have his son, by a first marriage to
Graine O'Carroll, as being Rickard Burke, but no details. Also have a note
that the 3rd earl(nameless also)married a Margaret_______) and had a dau.,
Honora, who married Sir Nicholas Malby.

According to Complete Peerage vol. 3, pp.228-230:

1. Ulick Bourke or de Burgh, of Clanricarde, co Galway, s and h of Richard
Bourke "MacWilliam", chief of Clanricarde (d. Apr 1530) by Margaret, da of
Piers (Butler), Earl of Ormond and Ossory. Created Earl of Clanricarde and
Baron of Dunkellin, 1 July 1543. Married (1) Grace or Grany, wid of ----
MacCoghlan, da of Maolrona O'Carroll, "Prince of Ely", from whom he was
separated. Married (2) Honora, sister of Sir Ulick Bourke (his father's
cousin), da of Rickard Oge MacWilliam, of Clanrickard (who d. 1519), from
whom also he was separated. Married (3) Maria Lynch. He d. 19 Oct 1544.

2. Richard, s and h, only s of 1st marriage, under age 16 Sep. 1548. Married
(1) 1548 Margaret, da of Murrough (O'Brien), 1st Earl of Thomond, whom he
divorced. Married (2) 24 Nov 1553 Margaret, da of Donough (O'Brien), 2nd
Earl of Thomond; she d. 1568. Married (3) 1568 Gille or Cecilia, wid of
Edmund (Butler), 1st Baron Dunboyne, da of Cormac Oge MacCarty, of Muskerry.
He d. 24 July 1582.

3. Ulick, s and h, only s by 1st w. Married 25 Nov 1564 at Athenry, co
Galway, Honora, da of John Burke, of Clogheroka and Tullyra, co Galway. He
d. 20 May 1601.

There is a footnote saying that Lodge, vol. i, p. 130, is incorrect in
saying that the 3rd earl married on the date given Margaret, da of Richard
Fitz-Allan, Earl of Arundel.

I can't see any mention of a daughter Honora, but mostly daughters aren't
mentioned in this account. Another note quotes G.D. Burtchaell, Athlone
Pursuivant, as observing that these earls lived after the manner of their
forefathers, repudiating and marrying wives as they pleased. Vicary Gibbs
comments that the 2nd earl's "matrimonial adventures ... recall those of the
poultry yard".

Chris Phillips

[ADRIANC...@aol.com]

Larry,

You will find some further details in Burke's Peerage under Viscount Sligo.
If you can, I suggest you try and obtain the 106 Ed (1999), as this seems to
have been cleaned up so as to "agree" with CP.

The only daughter mentioned of Ulick 3rd Earl is a Margaret m Sir John Burke,
of Derrymaclaughna. but from another souce, I beleive they left Hanora who
married Miles Bourke, 2nd Viscount Mayo.

Also Richard 4th Earl of Clanricarde m 8 Apr 1603 Frances d&h of Sir Francis
Walsingham (widow of Philip Sidney and of Viscount Hereford) left (with other
issue) an Honora who m1 Garratt McCoghlan and m2 by 4 Oct 1633 (his m2) 5th
Marquess of Winchester

As for Sir Nicholas Malby, another son of the 3rd earl of Clanricarde is a
Sir Thomas who m Ursula, widow of Capt Anthony Brabazon of Ballinasloe, and
dau of Sir Nicholas Malby, Ch Commr of Connaught and dsp

But I can't see any Honora Burke m a Sir Nicholas Malby

regards,
Adrian

[Larry Coats]

My thanks to Chris Phillips and Adrian Channing for their assistance; it
did, in fact, help me sort out some conflicting information. The upshot of
it all was that someone had suggested that Ursula Malby's mother was the
dau. of the 3rd Earl of Clanricarde, which did not fit with what I was
seeing in other places. And Adrian, I did find the info under SLIGO in
Burke...my thanks for that also.

However, now I have an afterthought that I would like to pose to "whomever":
the Sir Nicholas Malby, who is cited as the father of Ursula Malby...I know
that he was Elizabeth I's military governor of Connacht abt 1575 and
President of Munster. He campaigned successfully against the rebel Earl of
Desmond during this time frame; I also know that he was apparently a close
friend confidant/ally of the earl of Leicester and the earl of Huntingdon
and the Sidneys. What I find surprising is that I find very little about
his family background.
I did find an unsubstantiated assertion that by a wife named Thomasine_____,
he also had a son, Hastings "Maltbie", who apparently had a dau., Alice,
who was bapt. 12 July 1628 at Lincoln. Sir Nicholas' other daughter,
Ursula, married Sir Anthony Brabazon of Ballinasloe Castle and their dau.,
Sarah, married John Hamilton of Hamiltonsbawn in Co. Armagh.
Might anyone happen to have the name "Malby" or "Maltby" in a database that
might throw more light on Sir Nicholas? I estimate his birthdate as abt
1520. His date of death is given as 24 Jul 1582. I had thought that
perhaps Sir Nicholas might be some connection to a Mauteby family, but have
found no evidence of that.
In any event, if Sir Nicholas Malby/Maltby surfaces out there, would
appreciate a reply.
Regards to all,
Larry

[ADRIANC...@aol.com]

Larry,

Another son of Ulick (-1601) 3rd earl Clanricarde was John (-1633)
subsequently Viscount of Clanmories. In CP ha appears under "Bourke of
Clanmories" [Vol II p 253] which states he was the illegit s of Ulick 3rd
earl Clanricarde and he m Catharine only da. of Capt. Anthony Brabazon, of
Ballynasloe in Connaught by Ursula, da of Sir Nicholas Malby, of Roscommon,
Lord President of Connaught."

So it looks as though one son of 3rd earl Clanricarde m the widow of Anthony
Brabazon whilst another m his only daughter.

Nicholas Malby should have an entry in Dictionary of National Biographies,
and perhaps would indicate where his origins lay. He is in the Oxford
Concise DNB, but no clue as to where he originally came from.

Its really strange I should look at this again. I have been reviewing my
notes on Browne Viscount's Montague, and had previously noted that O'Harts
Pedigrees had mistakenly named Sir Anthony Brabazon as Sir Anthony Browne, so
checked it out and came back to Nicholas Malby.

From my notes on Irish Brownes (including Brownes Mq of Sligo) I note that
Sir Nicholas Malby was responsible of the destruction of a building at
Westport, co Mayo on which site the Sligo Brownes subsequently built their
Westport House. He was also in Galway city in the early 1580s when he wrote
stating that the defences there need to be improved.

Adrian