Re: C.P. Addition: Maud de Bernake, wife of Sir Ralph de Cromwell, Lord Cromw...
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royala...@msn.com writes:
<< Source: C.W. Foster, ed., Final Concords of the County of Lincoln from
the Feet of Fines preserved in the Public Record Office, A.D. 1244-1272
(Lincoln Rec. Soc. 17) (1921): 204-205:
"No. 73. At Lincoln; from Trinity in fifteen days, 47 Henry III, [10 June,
1263].
Between Hugh de Bernack and Maud his wife, Peter de Kyrketon and Elizabeth
his wife and Richard de Marisco [Marsh] and Alina his wife, plaintiffs, and
Roger prior of Markby, tenant, of 8 acres of land in Wudethorp [Woodthorpe]. >>
Is this document implying that these three women were sisters ?
Thanks
Will Johnson
Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com
Gauging from the wording in the fine, it appears likely that the three
women were sisters and co-heiresses, just as you have guessed. Maud,
wife of Hugh de Bernake, is alleged to be a daughter of William de
Woodthorpe. I have not confirmed that allegation. If so, I assume
that all three women named in the 1263 fine were daughters of William
de Woodthorpe.
The following website gives an overview of the Woodthorpe family. It
indicates that the Woodthorpe family were descended from baronial
family of Craon. I believe the Craon family has Carolingian ancestry.
http://geneajourney.com/woodthorpe.html
Interestingly enough, the above website in turn cites as its source an
old post from the SGM newsgroup archives submitted by Blair Southerden,
part of which reads as follows:
<Source: A History of the villages of Aisthorpe and Thorpe in the
< Fallows by CW Foster MA, Canon of Lincoln, pub. JW Ruddock and Sons
1927.
< Page 41 C6 William of Woodthorpe, the successor and probably the son
of
< Thomas of Woodthorpe (C5) held half a knight's fee in Thoresthorpe,
< Woodthorpe, Withern, Strubby, Maltby [le Marsh] and Sloothby of
Petronilla
< de Craon (Croun) who held of the king in chief (fn6 Book of Fees ii,
1059,
< 1090) ... He was dead in 1262 for an inquisition post mortem of that
year
< states that William de Herdredeshull died seised of one knight's fee
in
< Saleby, whereof five-sixths were of the fee of the heirs of
Petronilla de
< Vaux (nee Petronilla de Croun) and one sixth of the fees of the heirs
of
< William de Wodetorp (fn5 Calendar of Inq I, no 526. Mister Dudding,
< History of Saleby p25, is right in making this William the last male
of his line,
< see also Ibid p100). He left three daughters and coheirs:
< 1. Alice ... who married Richard Marke....
< 2. Maud.....married Sir Hugh Bernake.......
< 3. Elizabeth C7 (see below)
< Page 43 The Families of Bozon or Kirton and sawley
< C7 Elizabeth of Woodthorpe, the third daughter and coheir of William
of
< Woodthorpe (C6) inherited the manor of Aisthorpe. In 1303 she is
described
< as Elizabeth, lady of Aisthorpe. .... Elizabeth married Peter Bozon
or
< Boson, of Kirton or Kirketon not later than 1272... She was
presumably dead
< in 1333, since her heir paid the subsidy for that year." END OF
QUOTE
I imagine the information supplied by Mr. Southerden is accurate.
However, the fine I cited in my own post earlier today indicates that
William de Woodthorpe's third daughter and co-heiress was named Aline,
not Alice, and that she married Richard de Marsh, not Richard Marke.
If anyone has further particulars on the Woodthorpe and Craon families,
I'd appreciate it greatly if they would post their information here on
the newsgroup.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net