CP Addition: Ancestry of the Lords Botreaux
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
The origin of the Lords Botreaux received scant treatment in
CP. This account states that William de Botreaux (d. 1391) was
" s. and h. of William de B., of Botreaux Castle, otherwise
Boscastle, Cornwall, Sheriff of Cornwall (who d. 22 July
1349),..": concerning his ancestry,
" He was s. of Reynold d. B. (d. 1346), s. of William
(d. c. 1342), s. of William (d. 1302), s. of Reynold
(d. 1273). " [1]
A number of online web pages allege a connection to the 12th
century Boterel family: in fact, there appear to be good reasons
to identify William Boterel of Devonshire (d. ca. 1242) with
William de Botreaux, foremost among which is the record of a grant
for a market by King John at Tolcarne, Cornwall [later to become
Boscastle] dated 15 Jul 1204 to William Boterell [2].
Below is a conjectural pedigree for this family, which
indicates relationships (via Corbet) to King Henry I of England
and his natural son Reginald, Earl of Cornwall. This also
reflects kinship to the FitzAlans of Oswestry, later Earls of
Arundel, through common descent from Isabel de Say, heiress of
Clun and Oswestry.
This impacts the ancestry of a fair number of individuals,
including (to name only a few) the following 17th century
colonists to America: Anne Humphrey, John Nelson, Herbert Pelham,
Edward Raynsford, Maria Johanna Somerset, John Stockman, John
West, and George Yate.
Should anyone have any further relevant documentation, comment
or criticism, this would of course be welcome.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES (to post):
[1] CP II:32, note (d).
[2] Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516,
http://www.history.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
cites Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum, 1204-27 (London: 1833,
1844), I:2b.
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DESCENT from Robert fitz Corbet to William de Botreaux
1 Robert fitz Corbet
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Death: aft 1135[1]
Father: NN Corbet (-<1086)
of Longdon and Alcester, co. Salop[1]
younger son; 'burgess of Caen' (CP Vol V (Gloucester), p. 683)[2]
held his lands (15 manors containing approx. 22 hides at Domesday
Book, 1086) of the Earl of Shrewsbury
witness to charter of Henry I to Shrewsbury Abbey, 1121; ardent
supporter of Matilda in war with Stephen[1]
Children: Sibylla
Alicia (-<1149)
1.1a Sibylla Corbet*
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not married to King Henry I
identification as Alicia Corbet (in a charter of Reginald, Earl of
Cornwall to William de Boterell, son of Alicia by another
father)[3] erroneous - this is her sister Alicia[1]
Spouse: Henry I of England [not married]
Birth: 1068, England[4]
Death: 1 Dec 1135, Lyons-la-Forêt, Normandy[5]
Father: William 'the Conqueror' of Normandy (ca1027-1087)
Mother: Matilda of Flanders
Children: Reginald (-1175)
Sibyl
Other Spouses Herbert fitz Herbert
1.1a.1a Reginald fitz Roy*
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Death: 1 Jul 1175, Chertsey, Surrey[2]
Burial: Reading Abbey
Occ: Earl of Cornwall[2]
illegitimate son
held extensive lands in Cornwall de jure uxoris.
created Earl of Cornwall by Empress Matilda, ca. April 1141.
received lands of Alan, former Earl of Cornwall, incl. Launceston,
Cornwall (Sanders, p. 60)[6]
Sheriff of Devon , 1173-1175[2]
later known as Reynold de Dunstanville[7],[8]
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' Reginald, earl of Cornwall, d. 1175 [W3, T3].
[GND(RT) viii, 29 (v. 2, pp. 248-9)]
Son of a woman [Sibyl in later sources] who later married
Herbert Fitz Herbert. (see the part on the mothers for more) '
- Stewart Baldwin[9]
Spouse: Mabel 'filia Willelmi'
Father: William fitz Richard (->1130)
Mother: Anor
Children: Sarah
Maud
Joan
Denise
Other Spouses NN
1.1a.1b Reginald fitz Roy* (See above)
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Spouse: NN [not married]
Children: Henry [illegitimate]
Other Spouses Mabel 'filia Willelmi'
1.1a.2 Sibyl of England
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illegitimate daughter[2]
' Sibyl, m. Alexander I, king of Scotland. [W8, T8]
[Simeon of Durham ii, 265]
White attributes her as a daughter of Sibyl Corbet, but as Thompson
points out, without sufficient evidence.' - Stewart Baldwin[10]
Spouse: Alexander I of Scotland
Death: 23 Apr 1124, Stirling (d.s.p.)[11]
Father: Malcolm III 'Ceann-Mor' of Scotland (~1031-1093)
Mother: St. Margaret of England (1046-1093)
1.1b Sibylla Corbet* (See above)
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Spouse: Herbert fitz Herbert[2]
Father: Herbert fitz Alberic (->1117)
Mother: Emma of Blois
Children: Herbert (-<1204)
Other Spouses: Henry I of England [not married]
1.2 Alicia Corbet
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Death: bef 1149[12]
had manor of Longden, co. Salop as her maritagium[12]
Spouse: William Boterel
Children: William (-1209)
1.2.1 William Boterel
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Death: 1209[12]
held 12 knights' fees of the Earl of Cornwall, 1166
(DD, p. 182)[12]
3rd husband of Isabel de Say [ancestress of the Earls of Arundel]
(she m. previously William fitz Alan)
Spouse: Isabel de Say
Father: Elias de Say, of Clun, co. Salop.
Marr: aft 1170[12]
Children: William (-1242)
1.2.1.1 William de Botereus
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of Boscastle, Cornwall
held half a knight's fee in Devon ca. 1210-12 of the Bishop of
Exeter, as accounted in the Red Book of the Exchequer:
'Willelmus de Botereus, dimidum militem ' [Red Book of the
Exchequer, 1210-12, for 'Devonesira ' II:556[13]]
'Willelmus de Botereus', assessed for lands held at 'Bideney et
Widennie', 'Penhel' and 'Wimentone'[13]
'William de Botreaux', witness to several charters of Richard, Earl
of Cornwall ca. 1235-1242:
'9. Grant to Beaulieu abbey of the advowson of St Keverne.
Witnessed by Andrew de Cardinan, Reginald de Vautort, William
de Botreaux, Walter de Treverbyn, Andrew de Chanceaux, Richard
de Turri, Henry the German, Guy de St Amand, Nicholas Danne and
Robert de Asthall: Beaulieu Cartulary, ed. Hockey, no. 249;
CPR, 1343-5, p. 379 [1235].
10. Grant to the burgesses of Dunheved of their liberties.
Witnessed by Andrew de Cardinan, Reginald de Vautort, William
de Botreaux, Henry the German, Andrew de Chanceaux, Guy de St
Amand, John de Bretasche, Robert fitz William, Henry de
Bodrugan, Walter fitz William, Roger de Trelosk and Nicholas
Danne: PRO, C 56/50, m. 18 [1240x1242].
11. Grant to Launceston priory of 5s. 10d. rent from the burgesses
of Dunheved. Witnessed by Andrew de Cardinan, William de
Botreaux, Andrew de Chanceaux, Richard de Turri, Walter
de Treverbyn, Odo de Treverbyn, Robert fitz William and
Roger de Trelosk: Launceston Cartulary, ed. Hull, no.21
[1227x1242]. '[14]
Children: Reginald (->1258)
1.2.1.1.1 Reginald de Botreaux
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Death: aft Aug 1258[14]
knt., of Boscastle, Cornwall
' Reginald de Botreaux ', one of the four knights [together with
Ralph Arundell ] who were appointed in Cornwall in August 1258
" to conduct an investigation into all wrongs committed by royal
and baronial officials and bailiffs."[14]
Children: William (-<1296)
1.2.1.1.1.1 William de Botreaux
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Death: bef 25 Aug 1296[15]
of Boscastle, Cornwall and Babington, Somerset
charter for a fair (vfm, Margaret the Virgin - 20 Jul) at
Babington, Somerset granted 7 Oct 1285, by King Edward I to
William de Botereus (CChR, 1257-1300, p. 324). 'To be held at
the manor '[15]
' William de Botereux ', identified as father of the grantee of
charters for a market and fair at Boscastle, dated 16 Aug 1312
and at Lelant, Cornwall dated 25 Aug 1296[15]
Children: William (-ca1342)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1 William de Botreaux
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Death: ca 1342[2]
of Boscastle, Cornwall
Charters for a market ( Thur ) and fair (vfm, Assumption - 15 Aug)
at Lelant, Cornwall granted by King Edward II to William son of
William de Botereux, 25 Aug 1296: 'To be held at the manor '
(CChR, 1257–1300, p. 465).[15]
Charters for a market ( Wed ) and fair (vfm, James the Apostle - 25
Jul) at Boscastle, Cornwall granted by King Edward II to William
son of William de Botereux, 16 Aug 1312: 'To be held at the manor'
(CChR, 1300–26, p. 194).[15]
F (Prescriptive) feria recorded 1302, held [at Boscastle]
by William de Botereus (QW, p. 108).
William successfully claimed that his ancestors
had held the fair from time out of mind. '[15]
cf. CP I:241[2]
Children: Sir Reginald (-1346)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Reginald de Botreaux
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Death: 1346[2]
knt., of Boscastle, Cornwall
'Sir Reginald de Botreaux', party (on behalf of Lady Margaret
Dinham) to an Agreement for adjustment of dower with her son Sir
John de Dinham, 29 Mar 1343 [Saturday after Annunciation, 23 Edw
III ]:
' Agreement for adjustment of dower
Lady Margaret who was wife of Sir John de Dyneham, knight (1)
Sir John [de Dyneham], son and heir of Sir John (2)
Recites: plea of 'amesurement' [assessment?] of dower between
(1) and (2) at Launceston in the church of St Stephen, by Sir
Reginald de Botriaux, Sir William de Botriaux, Oliver de
Carmynou, Sir John Petit, knights, Master Walter de Botriaux and
others on the part of (1), and Sir Roger abbot of Hertilond, Sir
John de Ralegh de Beaudeport and Oliver de Dyneham on the part of
(2); appointment of 4 men to assess the lands of Sir John, and if
they could not agree, then Thomas de Crouthorn to be the fifth;
if (1) was found to have more than was reasonable, then she
should return it to (2), and enjoy the rest peaceably.
' As they could not agree, Thomas appointed a day at Exeter,
Saturday 11th Jan 1343 (Saturday after Epiphany 16 Edw III);
(1) was found to have £11 2s 8 1/2d more than she ought, so that
she made livery of the manor of Bodardel to (2) (its 35 tenants
listed), making yearly 102s 8 1/2d; also half the turbary of the
moor there, worth £6 yearly, and sale of the moor (la vente de la
diste more) to be agreed yearly between them, together with 4s 4d
from certain plots of pasture beside the moor in Halgras, Denetz
[?] and Henbond and the way beside Halgras, to the share of (2),
and the remainder of the pastures, worth 2s 2d, to remain to (1).
[Witnesses : ] Sir Reginald de Botreaux, Sir William de
Botreaux, Sir John de Ralegh, knights, Walter de Sutton, John
Fraunceys and Walter de Horton.
' Seal of (1) ('Sigill' Marga... ...nham').' - PRO, Cornwall
Record Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice
[AR/1/1 - AR/1/527] , AR/1/397[16]
cf. CP I:241[2]
Children: Sir William (-1349)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir William de Botreaux[2]
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Death: 22 Jul 1349[2]
of Boscastle, Cornwall
Sheriff of Cornwall
' Sir William de Botreaux ', party (together with his father) on
behalf of Lady Margaret de Dinham to an
Agreement for adjustment of dower with her son Sir John de
Dinham, 29 Mar 1343 [PRO, Cornwall Record Office: Arundell of
Lanherne and Trerice [AR/1/1 - AR/1/527] , AR/1/397[16]]
cf. CP I:241[2]
Spouse: Isabel de Moels, younger daughter and coheiress
Father: Sir John de Moels (<1304-<1337), Lord Moels
Mother: Joan Lovel
Children: William (1337-1391)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William de Botreaux
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Birth: 1 Sep 1337[2]
Death: 10 Aug 1391[2]
Occ: Lord Botreaux
of Boscastle, Cornwall
summoned to Parliament from 24 Feb 1367/8 by writ directed 'Willelmo de
Botreaux', whereby held to have become Lord Botreaux
cf. CP I:241-2[2]
Spouse: Elizabeth Daubeny
Death: aft 8 Feb 1398[15]
Children: William (-1395)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William de Botreaux
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Death: 25 May 1395[2]
Occ: Lord Botreaux
2nd Lord Botreaux
cf. CP I:242[2]
Spouse: Elizabeth Saint Lo
Father: John Saint Lo
Children: Sir William (1388-1462)
Anne
1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir William Botreaux
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Birth: 20 Feb 1388[5],[2]
Death: 16 May 1462[5]
Burial: Cadbury, Somerset
Occ: 2nd Lord Botreaux
of Boscastle, Cornwall
Spouse: Elizabeth Beaumont
Death: 1488
Father: John Beaumont (<1361-1396)
Mother: Katherine Everingham (-1426)
Children: William (-<1462)
Anne (-<1462)
Margaret (-1477)
SOURCES
1. Janet Meisel, "Barons of the Welsh Frontier: The Corbet,
Pantulf and Fitz Warin Families, 1066-1272," Lincoln:
University of Nebraska Press.
2. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage,"
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Britain and the United Kingdom.
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GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
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Press, 1964 (1st of English Monarchs series).
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27, 2003, John P. Ravilious, on file, J. Ravilious, discusses
evidence and identification of illegitimate sons of Henry I,
King of England (1100-1135), email sba...@mindspring.com
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title: Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons,
Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166: Pipe Rolls to Cartae
Baronum.
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http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0293/460_115/60104282/print.jhtml
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www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
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* John P. Ravilious
Mark Harry
don't have my notes on this family with me but from memory Maclean
suggests that there is a connection to the dukes of Brittany, but no
authority was cited for the same. There is a Geoffrey Boterel in the
Breton ducal family, but I have seen nothing to connect him to the
Cornish Boterels. The latter had their seat at Boterelcastel,now
Boscastle in northern Cornwall. The first known male of the family was
a Nicholas Boterell according to Maclean. His son William married
Alice daughter of Robert Corbet and was therefore an uncle by marriage
of Rainald or Reginald, earl of Cornwall.
In the next generation I have William (II) living 1160 and 1187
married to Isabella, widow of both Warin FitzGerald and Geoffrey de
Vere and daughter of Ellis de Say, lord of Clun. The following three
generations I have as
-- William (III) de Boterell, d. 1221, married Sibella, surname not
known
-- Reginald de Bottreaux, d. 1273, married to Matilda, surname not
known (Matilda married secondly to Richard Hywish)
-- Sir William (IV) Bottreaux, d. 1301, married to Dionisia
Champernowne.
A Joan Bottreaux, said by some writers to have been a daughter of a
William Bottreaux, married Sir William Basset of Tehidy (1300--1340)
and presented to Illogan as a Joan de Turberville, widow in 1361, and
this is my line. I am not sure of Joan's parentage, but she had a
daughter named Dionasia and could therefore well by a daughter of
William IV)de Bottreaux by Dionisia Champernowne.
Mark
The...@aol.com
Dear Mark,
Thanks also for this helpful and informative post.
I'm glad to hear a confirmatory account for the earlier
Botreaux/Boterel generations. In fact, I've acquired the text from
"Domesday Descendants" for William Boterel and his son William Boterel
'II' [DD 182], which concurs with the earlier generations as you and I
now have them (incl. the first William being 'son of Nicholas'), the
marriages to Alice Corbet (William I) and to Isabel de Say (William
II), and William 'III' being the son of William 'II' by Isabel de Say.
The specific reference to both Williams at DD 182 as being 'of
Boscastle, Cornwall' would seem to cement the identification.
Your identification of the spouses of the earlier Botreaux will
result in some further research (always looking for more assignments),
but your notation re: William 'IV' de Botreaux marrying Dionisia
Champernowne has already borne fruit. A review of the SGM archives
brought up Ronny Bodine's Champernoun work of February 1999, in which
he wrote (in part):
2. Sir HENRY de CAMPO ARNULPHI (CHAMBERNUN).
Still a minor in 1242/3 when the lands of his late father were noted
as being held by his heirs (Book of Fees, 2: 778, 784). Henry de
Chambernun and Dionisia, his wife, were named in a land warranty of 6
June 1249 (Devon Feet of Fines 1196-1272: no. 497). On 9 Dec
1262, he was holder of the "Court of Henry and his heirs at Alfricumb"
(Ilfracombe) where Henry himself was a plaintiff (Devon Feet of Fines,
no. 472). On 24 Nov 1265, a mandate was issued to Henry de Chaumbren
to deliver the castle to Ralph de Gorges (Cal. Patent Rolls, 1258-66,
p. 508). On 16 Feb 1270, in a fine between Henry de Chaumbernun,
claimant and Hugh de Treverbyn, deforciant, regarding the manors of
Trevolonan, Tywardrayth, Ludevon (Ludgvan) and Penalym (Penhallyn in
Jacobstow), Hugh acknowledged the manors that Henry held by gift of
Isolda de Cardinham (Cornwall Feet of Fines 1195-1377, no. 222). As
Lord of Ilfracombe, he presented there to the church in June 1263,
June 1272, and Dec 1276; as Lord of Jacobstowe, Cornwall he presented
there to the church in June 1270, then being called a knight, and in
Sept 1272. As Lord of Coryton (Curitone) he presented there to the
church in Sept 1279 (Bronescombe, pp. 127, 145, 146). On 22 April 1279
he was given a grant of a weekly market and a yearly fair at his manor
of Ilfracombe (Cal. Charter Rolls, 2: 211). On 5 July 1277 he had
protection going to Wales on the King's service (Cal. Patent Rolls,
1272-81, p. 217) and was last recorded as justice of the gaol delivery
at Oxford and Exeter in May and July 1281 (Cal. Patent Rolls, 1272-81,
p. 441, 445).
Vivian (p. 160) states he married Dionisia, daughter of Gilbert and
sister and coheiress of Sir Robert English or Engloiz, of Stokeley. He
was certainly married to a Dionisia by June 1249 who survived her
husband as Dame Dionisia de Campo Arnulphi when, in March 1284, she
presented Oliver de Campo Arnulphi, subdeacon, presumably their son, as
rector of Jacobstowe (Bronescombe, p. 347). Stockeley-Engles
(Stockleigh-English) was in possession of her grandson, Henry, who
presented to the church in April 1312.
Children:
3. Sir William de Champernoun, m. Joan.
4. Sir Richard de Champernoun, m. Joan. See CHAMPERNOUN OF
MODBURY.
5. Oliver de Champernoun.
[ and then a bit further on : ]
Note: Vivian (p. 160) names John, Reginald and Henry [but not
William] as sons of Sir Henry de Campo Arnulphi and his wife Dionisia,
although this writer believes he misidentified another John with the
priest of the same name. In addition, Vivian named two daughters,
Dionisia, wife of Sir William Bottreaux and Margaret, wife of Otho
Bodrigan. Sir William Bottreaux, of Worthevale, Penhale, Crackhampton
and Botylet, co. Cornwall was born in 1242 and died 1302 (Trigg, 1:
634). Pole (Devon, p. 427) reports he held Cadbury and Stockleigh
-English in free-marriage with Dionisia, but the evidence for this has
not been found. In fact, Stockleigh-English was held by William
Champernoun (viz. no. 10) who presented there in May 1344. The
Complete Peerage (2: 199) indeed reports Sir Otho Bodrigan (1290-1331)
had a wife named Margaret, but does not venture to identify her family
name. Trigg (1: 499, 550) states Sir Otho joined the Earl of Lancaster
and fought at the battle of Boroughbridge in 1322. Margaret survived
her husband and presented to Marny's Prebend in Apr 1349 in right of
her dower. After her death the manor and advowson devolved upon her
son, William de Bodrigan, who presented in June 1351. [1]
With a bit of added research and review of the chronology of the
Champernoun family, it seems most likely that Dionisia de Botreaux,
daughter of William de Botreaux and wife of Sir William Basset of Tehidy
(evidently b. ca. 1300) would have been the daughter of William de
Botreaux (d. ca. 1342) and thereby granddaughter of Dionisia de
Champernoun. This is based primarily on the approx. birth date for
Sir Henry de Champernoun (b. aft 1221 - still a minor in 1242/3), which
would make it unlikely (but not impossible) for a grandchild of his
being married to a knight born ca. 1300. See how the following pedigree
strikes you.
As always, any added documentation, comment or criticism is
certainly welcome.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES to post
[1] Ronny Bodine, <CHAMPERNOUN OF ILFRACOMBE, DEVONSHIRE>, SGM,
1 Feb 1999.
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DESCENT FROM King Henry I of England to Sir Reginald and Dionisia
de Botreaux:
1 Henry I of England
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Birth: 1068, England[1]
Death: 1 Dec 1135, Lyons-la-Forêt, Normandy[2]
Burial: Reading abbey[3]
Occ: King of England 1100 - 1135
Father: William 'the Conqueror' of Normandy (ca1027-1087)
Mother: Matilda of Flanders
Spouse: NN [NOT married]
Children: Robert 'FitzRoy' (~1090-1147)
Other Spouses Edith (Matilda) of Scotland, Adeliza of Louvain
1.1a Robert 'FitzRoy' of Gloucester*
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Birth: abt 1090, Caen, Normandy[4]
Death: 31 Oct 1147, Bristol[4]
Burial: Priory of St. James, Bristol
Occ: Earl of Gloucester
witness to charters of Henry I from Apr 1113; fought at the battle of
Bremule, 20 Aug 1119 (Henry I defeated Louis VI of France).
acquired Lordship of Glamorgan by marriage, ca. 1120[5]
created Earl of Gloucester before Sept 1122[4]
primary supporter of sister Matilda, ca. 1138 onward; captured Stephen
at Lincoln, 1141 together with Ranulf of Chester[6]
captured 14 Sept 1141 by Stephen's forces, exchanged for him November
1141. Joined with Geoffrey of Anjou in conquest of Normandy,
June 1142; defeated Stephen at Wilton, 1143
patron of William of Malmesbury, possibly also of Geoffrey
of Monmouth [1][4]
'Robert fitz Regis', held a fair at Caerdydd (Cardiff), co. Glamorgan:
'feria recorded 1121–2x1147, held by Robert fitz Regis, earl of
Gloucester, who granted to Tewkesbury abbey the tithe of the rents
and tolls of his fair at Cardiff (R.B. Patterson ed., Earldom of
Gloucester Charters (Oxford, 1973), no. 283). '[7]
acc. to H. A. Doubleday and J. Brownhill, probably son of Sibyl Corbet
(also mother of Reynold de Dunstanville) - cf. CP Vol V (Gloucester),
p. 681[4]
ardent supporter of half-sister Matilda (vs. Stephen)
[1] ~ it is claimed re: Geoffrey of Monmouth that the Historia Regum
Britanniae
'...was dedicated to Robert, earl of Gloucester and lord of
Glamorgan, natural son of Henry 1, and a claimant, and thereafter
close to other claimants, to the throne, while a few other, later,
copies were dedicated to King Stephen and to another baron.'[8]
re: his wife:
Mabel
called Sibyl by continuator of William of Jumieges
~ possibly confused with her mother, Sibyl
heiress of seigneurie of Creully (given to son Richard)[4]
_________________________
' Robert "filius Regis", d. 1147, earl of Gloucester [W1, T1].
[GND(RT) viii, 29 (v. 2, pp. 248-9), and many other sources]
He is called the eldest by RT. His mother was evidently a relative of
Philip Gai and of Nigel son of William, both of whom appear in the
sources as relatives of Robert. [Thompson 142-3]. '
Stewart Baldwin [cites Robert of Torigny, the Gesta Norm. Duc. and
other sources[9]]
Spouse: Mabel FitzHamon
Death: 1157[4]
Father: Robert FitzHamon (-1105)
Mother: Sibyl de Montgomery
Marr: ca 1120[5]
Children: William 'FitzRoy' (-1183), Earl of Gloucester
Maud (-1189), m. Ranulf, Earl of Chester
Roger (-1179), Bishop of Worcester
Hamon (-1159)
Philip
Richard (-1175), seigneur de Creully
Other Spouses NN [NOT married]
1.1b Robert 'FitzRoy' of Gloucester* (See above)
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Spouse: NN [NOT married]
Children: Robert
1.1b.1 Robert of Gloucester
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illegitimate son
made a gift to Quarr Abbey together with his wife Hawise, ca. 1141/7:
' That Robert, a little known son of the Earl of Gloucester was even
married, is revealed in a charter dated between June 1141 and 1161,
probably before Oct 1147, in which Hawise, daughter of Earl Baldwin
de Redvers, made a gift to Quarr Abbey jointly with her husband,
Robert, son of the Earl of Gloucester. CP, 5: 686 states Robert was
a natural son of Earl Robert and that he was named c1160 in a charter
and is addressed in a writ from King Henry II as Castellan of
Gloucester.'[10]
re: his wife:
she made a gift of the manors of Fleet and Ibberton, Dorset. to her
grandson Richard de Chambernoun (confirmed by daughter Mabel)[10]
Spouse: Hawise de Reviers[10]
Father: Baldwin de Reviers (-1155), Earl of Devon
Mother: Adelise
Children: Mabel
1.1b.1.1 Mabel of Gloucester[10]
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she m. lstly Jordan de Chambernoun
2ndly William de Soliers[10]
Spouse: Jordan de Champernoun[10]
Death: bef 1166[10]
Children: Jordan
Richard
Henry (-ca1211)
1.1b.1.1.1 Henry de Champernoun
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Death: ca 1211[10]
lord of 1 fee under the Honour of Gloucester in 1201-1212
(Red Book of the Exchequer, p. 154) and 1211-1212 (Red Book, p. 607) [10]
' Henry de Campo Arnulfi ', witness to Confirmation by John de Hydon to
the canons of Taunton, dated 1161 x 1184 [PRO, Cornwall Record Office:
Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice [AR/1/528 - AR/1/1121], Clayhidon
Manor: AR/1/557[11] ]
Spouse: Rose de Tracy
Children: Oliver (-<1243)
1.1b.1.1.1.1 Oliver de Champernoun
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Death: bef 1243[12]
of Ilfracombe, Burch, and Southcott, Devon
' 1. OLIVER de CAMPO ERNULFI (ERNULPHI).
d. ca. 1242/3 (his heirs were then in possession of his lands in
Ilfracombe, Burch, and Southcott (The Book of Fees, 2: 778, 784) [10]
Spouse: Wymarca
Children: Sir Henry (>1221->1281)
1.1b.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Henry de Champernoun
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Birth: aft 1221[12]
Death: aft Jun 1281[12]
of Ilfracombe, Burch, and Southcott, Devon
Still a minor in 1242/3 (his father's lands then being held by his
heirs (Book of Fees, 2: 778, 784)
' Henry de Chambernun ' and Dionisia, his wife, were named in a land
warranty of 6 June 1249 (Devon Feet of Fines 1196-1272: no. 497) [10]
' Henrico de Campo Arnulphi ', had charter from Richard, Earl of
Cornwall confirming the gift of lands of Isolda de Cardinham,
dated Wallingford, 18 Apr 1268 [PRO, Cornwall Record Office:
Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice [AR/17 - AR/50],
Dinham: AR/37/2 [11] ]
Fine between Henry de Chaumbernun, claimant and Hugh de Treverbyn,
deforciant, date 16 Feb 1270 regarding the manors of Trevolonan,
Tywardrayth, Ludevon (Ludgvan) and Penalym (Penhallyn in Jacobstow)
[ Hugh acknowledged that Henry held same by gift of Isolda de
Cardinham (Cornwall Feet of Fines 1195-1377, no. 222) [12]
" On 5 July 1277 he had protection going to Wales on the King's service
(Cal. Patent Rolls, 1272-81, p. 217) and was last recorded as justice
of the gaol delivery at Oxford and Exeter in May and July 1281
(Cal. Patent Rolls, 1272-81, p. 441, 445). " [12]
Re: his wife Dionisia, Ronny Bodine wrote:
" Vivian (p. 160) states he married Dionisia, daughter of Gilbert
and sister and coheiress of Sir Robert English or Engloiz, of Stokeley.
He was certainly married to a Dionisia by June 1249 who survived her
husband as Dame Dionisia de Campo Arnulphi when, in March 1284, she
presented Oliver de Campo Arnulphi, subdeacon, presumably their son,
as rector of Jacobstowe (Bronescombe, p. 347). Stockeley-Engles
(Stockleigh-English) was in possession of her grandson, Henry, who
presented to the church in April 1312."[12]
Spouse: Dionisia
Marr: bef 6 Jun 1249[12]
Children: Dionisia
Sir William
Sir Richard
Oliver
Margaret
1.1b.1.1.1.1.1.1 Dionisia de Champernoun
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Re: Dionisia de Champernoun and her parentage, Ronny Bodine wrote:
' Vivian (p. 160) names John, Reginald and Henry [but not William] as
sons of Sir Henry de Campo Arnulphi and his wife Dionisia, although this
writer believes he misidentified another John with the priest of the
same name. In addition, Vivian named two daughters, Dionisia, wife of
Sir William Bottreaux and Margaret, wife of Otho Bodrigan. Sir
William Bottreaux, of Worthevale, Penhale, Crackhampton and Botylet,
co. Cornwall was born in 1242 and died 1302 (Trigg, 1: 634). Pole
(Devon, p. 427) reports he held Cadbury and Stockleigh-English in
free-marriage with Dionisia, but the evidence for this has not been
found. In fact, Stockleigh-English was held by William Champernoun
(viz. no. 10) who presented there in May 1344.'[12]
Spouse: William de Botreaux, of Boscastle, Cornwall
Death: bef 25 Aug 1296[7]
Father: Reginald de Botreaux (->1260)
Children: William (-ca1342)
1.1b.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William de Botreaux
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Death: ca 1342[4]
of Boscastle, Cornwall
Charters for a market ( Thur ) and fair (vfm, Assumption - 15 Aug) at
Lelant, Cornwall granted by King Edward II to William son of William
de Botereux, 25 Aug 1296: 'To be held at the manor ' (CChR, 1257–1300,
p. 465).[7]
' Wm. de Botriaus ', witness to a grant by Henry de Bodrugan, dated at
Bodrugan, 28 January 1306 [ PRO, Cornwall Record Office: Edgcumbe of
Cotehele and Mount Edgcumbe [ME/1 - ME/1539], ME/642[11]]
Charters for a market ( Wed ) and fair (vfm, James the Apostle - 25 Jul)
at Boscastle, Cornwall granted by King Edward II to William son of
William de Botereux, 16 Aug 1312: 'To be held at the manor '
(CChR, 1300–26, p. 194).[7]
F (Prescriptive) feria recorded 1302, held by William de Botereus
(QW, p. 108). William successfully claimed that his ancestors had
held the fair from time out of mind. '[7]
'Wm. Botriaux', witness together with John de Carminow and others of
a Grant in perpetuity dated at Bodrugan, 31 Dec 1324 by Oto de
Bodrugan, Kt, of Bodrugan [PRO, Cornwall Record Office: Edgcumbe
of Cotehele and Mount Edgcumbe [ME/1 - ME/1539], ME/600[11]]
cf. CP I:241[4]
Children: Sir Reginald (-1346)
Margaret (-<1361)
Dionisia
1.1b.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Sir Reginald de Botreaux
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Death: 1346[4]
knt., of Boscastle, Cornwall
'Sir Reginald de Botreaux', party (on behalf of Lady Margaret Dinham) to
an Agreement for adjustment of dower with her son Sir John de Dinham,
29 Mar 1343 [Saturday after Annunciation, 23 Edw III ]: - PRO,
Cornwall Record Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice
[AR/1/1 - AR/1/527] , AR/1/397[11]
cf. CP I:241[4]
Children: Sir William (-1349) de Botreaux, of Boscastle
1.1b.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Dionisia de Botreaux
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she m. Sir William Basset of Tehidy
1. David C. Douglas, "William the Conqueror," Univ of California
Press, 1964 (1st of English Monarchs series).
2. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists"
Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999,
(2nd edition, 1999).
3. "The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle," translated by The Rev. James Ingram,
London: J. M. Dent & Sons Ltd., 1934 (reprint of first edition,
1912), Everyman's Library, No. 624.
4. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain
and the United Kingdom.
5. "A History of Wales," John Davies, New York: Penguin Press, 1993
(orig. published in Welsh, 1990).
6. Ordericus Vitalis, "Historiae ecclesiasticae,"
www.deremilitari.org/lincoln4.htm
7. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516,"
www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
8. Brynley F. Roberts, "Geoffrey of Monmouth: Doorkeeper to our
Heritage and Nation," http://www.monmouth.org.uk/geoffrey2.html
9. Stewart Baldwin, "Bastards of Henry I, part 2: sons," November 27,
2003, John P. Ravilious, on file, J. Ravilious, discusses evidence
and identification of illegitimate sons of Henry I, King of England
(1100-1135), email sba...@mindspring.com
10. Ronny Bodine, "The Early Champernouns," Feb 18, 1999, paper copy:
library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP Vol. V (Gloucester), p. 686,
and charter of gift to Quarr Abbey.
11. "Public Record Office Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
12. Ronny Bodine, "CHAMPERNOUN OF ILFRACOMBE, DEVONSHIRE," 1 Feb, 1999,
paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious.
* John P. Ravilious
Douglas Richardson
In your post below on the ancestry of the Botreaux family, you refer
to Robert, son of Robert, Earl of Gloucester, who was living 1141/7.
The charter below dated 1334 [sic] is taken from the helpful online
A2A catalogue (http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp). This charter
was issued by King Henry II of England. It names the king's
grandfather, King Henry I of England (died 1135); Robert Fitz Roy,
Earl of Gloucester, his uncle; as well as Robert son of the Earl of
Gloucester (or if you prefer Robert Fitz Count), who the king styles
"my kinsman" [cognatus meus]. If I read the charter correctly, Robert
Fitz Count was living at the date of this charter, which must have
been issued in or after 1154, when King Henry II ascended to the
throne.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royala...@msn.com
Cornwall Record Office: Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice [AR/17 -
AR/50]
Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice
Catalogue Ref. AR
Creator(s):
Arundell family of Lanherne and Trerice, Cornwall
FAMILY PAPERS
FAMILY TRUSTS
FILE [no title] - ref. AR/20/1 - date: 1334, Michaelmas term
[from Scope and Content] Henry' Rex Angl' Dux Norman' &
Acquietan' & Comes Androg' Ep'o Exon & Iustic' & Baronibus & Vic' &
ministris & fidelibus suis Franc' & Angl' & Wallens' & Cornub' &
Devon' salutem: sciatis me concessisse & confirmasse Ric' Pincerne &
her' suis manerium de Conerton quod Robertus filius Comitis Glocestr'
cognatus meus ei dedit pro servicio suo; quare volo & firmiter
precipio quod ipse Ricardus & her' sui illud manerium habeant &
teneant per servic' unius militis de predicto Roberto fil' Comitis &
de her' suis cum omnibus libertatibus & liberis cons' suis & acquiet'
eidem manerio pertinent', in bosco in planis in pratis & pastur' in
aquis & molend' in viis & semitis in hundr' & in omnibus rebus & in
omnibus locis, ita bene & in pace & libere & quiete & honore sicut
unquam Robertus filius Edmundi vel Comes Robertus avunculus meus
manerium illud melius libere quiete & honorificemus [sic] tenuit
tempore Regis Henr' avi mei, et sicut carta predicti Roberti fil'
comitis Glocestr' testatur; preterea concedo eidem Ricardo her' suis
omnes alias terras & tenuras suas de quacunque eas rationabiliter
habeant, ita libere sicut ego unquam habui & tenui. Hiis testibus &c.
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The...@aol.com wrote in message news:<113.3219c6...@aol.com>...
> Friday, 30 April, 2004
>
> ________________________________
>
> DESCENT FROM King Henry I of England to Sir Reginald and Dionisia
> de Botreaux:
>
>
> 1.1a Robert 'FitzRoy' of Gloucester*
> ----------------------------------------
> Birth: abt 1090, Caen, Normandy[4]
> Death: 31 Oct 1147, Bristol[4]
> Burial: Priory of St. James, Bristol
> Occ: Earl of Gloucester
>
> witness to charters of Henry I from Apr 1113; fought at the battle of
> Bremule, 20 Aug 1119 (Henry I defeated Louis VI of France).
>
> acquired Lordship of Glamorgan by marriage, ca. 1120[5]
>
> created Earl of Gloucester before Sept 1122[4]
>
> primary supporter of sister Matilda, ca. 1138 onward; captured Stephen
> at Lincoln, 1141 together with Ranulf of Chester[6]
> captured 14 Sept 1141 by Stephen's forces, exchanged for him November
> 1141. Joined with Geoffrey of Anjou in conquest of Normandy,
> June 1142; defeated Stephen at Wilton, 1143
>
> patron of William of Malmesbury, possibly also of Geoffrey
> of Monmouth [1][4]
>
> 'Robert fitz Regis', held a fair at Caerdydd (Cardiff), co. Glamorgan:
> 'feria recorded 1121â€"2x1147, held by Robert fitz Regis, earl of
Douglas Richardson
As a followup to my earlier post, I've a found a record in the A2A
Catalogue (http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp) which indicates
that Sir John Arundell was holding the manor of Conerton, Cornwall of
the Basset family of Umberleigh, Devon in the 1500's. As I recall,
the Basset family of Umberleigh were the heirs through their Beaumont
and Wilington ancestry of the senior Champernoun family. The
Champernoun family held the manor of Umberleigh in ancient times. My
guess is that Basset family inherited the overlordship of the manor of
Conerton along with the manor of Umberleigh by direct descent from
Robert Fitz Count (living c. 1154). This matter deserves further
study.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royala...@msn.com
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Arundell of Lanherne and Trerice
Catalogue Ref. AR
Creator(s):
Arundell family of Lanherne and Trerice, Cornwall
GENERAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT PAPERS
Cornwall
Connerton Manor - ref. AR/3/77 - 114
FILE [no title] - ref. AR/3/87 - date: [late 17th century or
c.1700]
[from Scope and Content] Cites that in 1370-71 (44 Edw III) the
lord of the manor of Wamberlegh claimed homage of Sir John Arundell in
regard of Comerton; that an Inquisition Post Mortem of Sir John
Arundell in 1509 x 1547 (temp. Hen VIII) found that Conerton was held
of the heirs of Bassett of their manor of Umberley (service unknown).
Queries where Umberley is, and whether any payments or
acknowledgements have been made since 1660-61 (12 Car II); notes that
all homages and knight's services were abolished by an act of 1660-61.
[1 p.; English]
royala...@msn.com (Douglas Richardson) wrote in message news:<5cf47a19.04050...@posting.google.com>...
Mark Harry
I have now checked my notes on the Bottreauxes and came up with the
following:
Dugdale ("Baronage", p 628-9) said that the original name of the
family was Boterell, and this has been accepted by all subsequent
historians dealing with the family. Maclean, as I previously advised,
says the family were descended from Alan Fergant, count of Brittany
("Trigg Minor", vol 1 p 631), and mentions Geoffrey Boterell as
appearing in a deed dated 6 Stephen. But he failed to actually
demonstrate the claimed link between the Breton comitial family and
the Cornish Boterells. While older peerage sources such as Banks had
Geoffrey Boterell as the father of the first William, they must be in
error on this point, as Cockayne says that Geoffrey had a son Conan,
and that after Conan's death his lands and titles reverted to his
uncles. They would not have done so had Conan had a legitimate
brother. I cannot see how the connection could be via an illegitimate
brother either, as William (I) appears as William son of Nicholas in
the preceding reign of Henry I (Maclean, p 631). This last reference
brings the whole claim of a Breton noble connection into question.
William (I) received a moiety of Robert Corbet's lands in Alcester,
the other half going to earl Rainald of Cornwall, who subsequently
confirmed to William (II) all the lands William (I) had received from
the earl in Cornwall, and also the marriage portion of William (II)'s
mother. William (II) is here called William Boterell son of Alice
Corbet, the grantor's mother's sister. (Maclean, p 631-3 and Appendix
A)
In the next few generations we have varying versions of the pedigree
from Pole, Dugdale, Banks and Maclean. For chronological reasons it
seems to me that Dugdale and Banks have omitted a generation from the
pedigree, and after comparing the differing accounts I have opted to
follow Maclean's version in relation to the placing of spouses. Hence,
the William who was sheriff of Devon in 4-6 Henry II must be William
(II), who held 12 fees of earl Rainald in 1166 and who married
Isabella de Say. (Risdon's Chorographical Description, app. 9; DATR
vol 34 p 571; Maclean, p 632, and charter C in the appendix)
In 1199 William (III) paid 200 pounds for seisin of his lands at
Penhale and half the ville of Alcester. Although Maclean does not say
as much, it sounds to me like this is a relief payment, which would
mean that William (II) had died, and perhaps not long beforehand.
(Maclean, p 632-3)
Risdon names a William Boterell of Boterellcastel and a William
Bottreaux of Botreauxcastel as living in the time of kings Richard I
and John. ("Notebook", p 202) William (III) married Sibella and was
sheriff of Cornwall in 1205-9. He appears to have joined the rebellion
against John, as in 16 John we find some of his lands in the hands of
the king. He died in 1220, succeeded by his son William (IV).
(Maclean, p 632-3)
William (IV) married Albreda, widow of John de Ingham and daughter of
Walter Waleran in 1205. He died in 1242 and his brother Reginald (I)
obtained livery of his lands, which indicates that William (IV) left
no surviving issue. So says Maclean, Pole though omits William (III)
from the pedigree and makes Reginald a son of the William who married
Albreda instead. I have again followed Maclean's version. (Maclean, p
633)
Donations of land to Launceston Priory were given, according to one
undated deed, by this William and his wife "Aubrey", and according to
another undated deed, by William and his wife "Joan" for the souls of
his parents William and Sybil, and the souls of his said wife and
children. As it is the same lands in each instance, it therefore seems
that William (IV) married twice, with Joan being the first wife and
Albreda the second, since Albreda outlived William. (Devon and
Cornwall Record Soc. new series 30, cartulary of Launceston Priory)
Reginald died in 2 Edward I, his heir being his son William (V), then
aged 31 and more. (Maclean, p 633) Maclean and Dugdale have this
William as the husband of Dionisia Champernowne. (Pole though places
Dionisia as the wife of the following William a generation later.)
William (V) is described in a summons for overseas service in 1297 as
Sir William Bottreaus, senior. He died in 1302, succeeded by his son
and heir William (VI), then aged 27 and more. (Maclean, p 634)
William (VI) appears in the summons of 1297 as William de Botreaux,
junr. He obtained livery of his father's lands except for the dowry of
Alice his mother. (Maclean, p 634) Unless Dionisia and Alice were one
and the same person, which would seem unlikely, then we must conclude
that William (V) married twice, with Alice in all probability being
the first wife since her son was the heir.
William (VI) was a knight of the shire in 1303, sheriff of Cornwalll
in 1320, governor of Tintagel castle in 1324 and seneschal and keeper
of all castles and parks in Cornwall after 1331. In 1305 he recovered
lands in "Castelboterel" from Cecily de Haccombe and her son Stephen,
which Cecily held in dower of the inheritance of William -- which
suggested to me that Cecily must have been Reginald's widow,
subsequently remarried to Stephen's father. William (VI) died in 1340,
succeeded by Reginald (II), who died 6 years later leaving a son
William (VII) aged 30 and more. William (VII) married Isabel de Moels
and died in 1349, leaving a son aged 12. (Maclean, p 635-6)
Now we come to the matter of who was Joan Basset, nee Bottreaux's
father. Maclean does not mention her at all in his account of the
family. Westcote merely calls her "the daughter of sir Botreaux"
("View of Devonshire", p 485). Vivian in his visitations, Pole and the
editor of the published Cornish feet of fines all call her the
daughter of a Sir William Bottreaux. ("Visitations of Cornwall", p 17;
Pole's "Devon", p 437; CFOF vol 1 p 335 n) At first glance William
(VI) is the logical choice. However, Maclean says that this William
left no children and, apparently, no wife either, and that Reginald
his heir was his brother. As Reginald according to Maclean had a
daughter named Alice, he shows Reginald as a son of William (V)'s wife
Alice rather than of Dionisia. (Maclean, p 635, and chart at pages
640-1)
Reginald himself to my mind seems to be too young to be Joan's father,
as while William (VII) had been made a knight, and his eldest sister
married, by 1341 (Maclean, p 636n), Joan would have had to have been
married to William Basset about 20 years earlier, since her son
William Basset junior, while under-age in 1340 (when the IPM for
William senior was held), must have come of age by 1343 (since he took
part in an assize hearing in that year). Hence, Joan must have married
by 1322.
In 1325 William Basset senior and William de Bottreaux were charged
with rescuing the latter's beasts after they had been impounded by the
king's bailiffs to satisfy a debt due to the sheriff, and with using
armed force to prevent the sheriff holding his court, among other
offences. The account, which is found in the "Illogan" section of the
incomplete second volume of the Victoria County History for Cornwall
(section 1 p 27) states that Bottreaux was Basset's brother-in-law.
What was not clear to me was whether or not this was a relationship
stated in the original record. If it was, then it would establish
William (V) as the father of Joan, in which case she was evidently
born to him in his late middle age, with Dionisia Champernowne
presumably being her mother.
Mark