Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
re Alexander Robertson of Struan
297 views
Skip to first unread message
Leo van de Pas via
Jan 30, 2016, 10:25:40 PM1/30/16
to Gen-Med
riemoreseanachaidh wrote :
Charles Robertson (1762-1821) was the fifth son of John Robertson of Wester Riemore (1725-1801) and his wife (married 1752), Beatrice Robertson of Invervack (ca. 1730/2-1819). Beatrice was the elder daughter of Robert "Rob Ban" Robertson of Invervack (1673-1777) and his third wife, Janet Robertson of Kindrochit. Her parentage (paternal and maternal) is stated, FYI, in her marriage contract, now held in the archives at Blair Castle, Blair Atholl, Scotland. Robert of Invervack was heir in his issue of the Struan line, his grandson Capt. Alexander Robertson (1745-1830) becoming chief of Clan Donnachaidh in 1823; he is the ancestor in male of the present chief.
I am very much restricted to secondary sources and would love to see that marriage contract.
In the meantime I had already been adding to the Robertson family but these additions won't be visible on genealogics until about 1 March.
My source is "Burke's Landed Gentry of Great Britain, The Kingdom of Scotland, 19th edition, volume 1, published 2001.
On pages 1170, 1171 Robert 'Rob Ban' Robertson of Invervack is shown with his family. It gives
Robert (Bane) of Invervack, born circa 1673, died 1777 at Invervack
married (1) NN no children
married (2) a daughter of Donald (Og) Robertson of Blairfetty
......four sons only Donald, Duncan, Alexander, Charles
married (3) a daughter of Donald Robertson of Kindrochit
......two daughters Margaret, Elizabeth, neither shown as married
married (4) a daughter of Neil Stewart, a cadet of the family of Foss
.......children Neil, John, Amelia none marked as married
This article misses out on so many dates which does not help.
You ask about Margaret Stewart, mother of Alexander. For her I have two sources, Burke's Landed Gentry which does not mention her parents and "The Red Book of Perthshire" by Gordon MacGregor, published in 2006, to which I no longer have access.
Hope this helps?
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
Charles Robertson (1762-1821) was the fifth son of John Robertson of Wester Riemore (1725-1801) and his wife (married 1752), Beatrice Robertson of Invervack (ca. 1730/2-1819). Beatrice was the elder daughter of Robert "Rob Ban" Robertson of Invervack (1673-1777) and his third wife, Janet Robertson of Kindrochit. Her parentage (paternal and maternal) is stated, FYI, in her marriage contract, now held in the archives at Blair Castle, Blair Atholl, Scotland. Robert of Invervack was heir in his issue of the Struan line, his grandson Capt. Alexander Robertson (1745-1830) becoming chief of Clan Donnachaidh in 1823; he is the ancestor in male of the present chief.
I am very much restricted to secondary sources and would love to see that marriage contract.
In the meantime I had already been adding to the Robertson family but these additions won't be visible on genealogics until about 1 March.
My source is "Burke's Landed Gentry of Great Britain, The Kingdom of Scotland, 19th edition, volume 1, published 2001.
On pages 1170, 1171 Robert 'Rob Ban' Robertson of Invervack is shown with his family. It gives
Robert (Bane) of Invervack, born circa 1673, died 1777 at Invervack
married (1) NN no children
married (2) a daughter of Donald (Og) Robertson of Blairfetty
......four sons only Donald, Duncan, Alexander, Charles
married (3) a daughter of Donald Robertson of Kindrochit
......two daughters Margaret, Elizabeth, neither shown as married
married (4) a daughter of Neil Stewart, a cadet of the family of Foss
.......children Neil, John, Amelia none marked as married
This article misses out on so many dates which does not help.
You ask about Margaret Stewart, mother of Alexander. For her I have two sources, Burke's Landed Gentry which does not mention her parents and "The Red Book of Perthshire" by Gordon MacGregor, published in 2006, to which I no longer have access.
Hope this helps?
Leo van de Pas,
Canberra, Australia
riemorese...@gmail.com
Jan 31, 2016, 1:03:02 AM1/31/16
to
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 10:25:40 PM UTC-5, Leo van de Pas via wrote:
> riemoreseanachaidh wrote :
>
> Charles Robertson (1762-1821) was the fifth son of John Robertson of Wester Riemore (1725-1801) and his wife (married 1752), Beatrice Robertson of Invervack (ca. 1730/2-1819). Beatrice was the elder daughter of Robert "Rob Ban" Robertson of Invervack (1673-1777) and his third wife, Janet Robertson of Kindrochit. Her parentage (paternal and maternal) is stated, FYI, in her marriage contract, now held in the archives at Blair Castle, Blair Atholl, Scotland. Robert of Invervack was heir in his issue of the Struan line, his grandson Capt. Alexander Robertson (1745-1830) becoming chief of Clan Donnachaidh in 1823; he is the ancestor in male of the present chief.
>
> I am very much restricted to secondary sources and would love to see that marriage contract.
>
> In the meantime I had already been adding to the Robertson family but these additions won't be visible on genealogics until about 1 March.
>
> My source is "Burke's Landed Gentry of Great Britain, The Kingdom of Scotland, 19th edition, volume 1, published 2001.
>
> On pages 1170, 1171 Robert 'Rob Ban' Robertson of Invervack is shown with his family. It gives
>
> Robert (Bane) of Invervack, born circa 1673, died 1777 at Invervack
> married (1) NN no children
> married (2) a daughter of Donald (Og) Robertson of Blairfetty
> ......four sons only Donald, Duncan, Alexander, Charles
> married (3) a daughter of Donald Robertson of Kindrochit
> ......two daughters Margaret, Elizabeth, neither shown as married
> married (4) a daughter of Neil Stewart, a cadet of the family of Foss
> .......children Neil, John, Amelia none marked as married
>
> This article misses out on so many dates which does not help.
>
> You ask about Margaret Stewart, mother of Alexander. For her I have two sources, Landed Gentry which does not mention her parents and "The Red Book of Perthshire" by Gordon MacGregor, published in 2006, to which I no longer have access.
> riemoreseanachaidh wrote :
>
> Charles Robertson (1762-1821) was the fifth son of John Robertson of Wester Riemore (1725-1801) and his wife (married 1752), Beatrice Robertson of Invervack (ca. 1730/2-1819). Beatrice was the elder daughter of Robert "Rob Ban" Robertson of Invervack (1673-1777) and his third wife, Janet Robertson of Kindrochit. Her parentage (paternal and maternal) is stated, FYI, in her marriage contract, now held in the archives at Blair Castle, Blair Atholl, Scotland. Robert of Invervack was heir in his issue of the Struan line, his grandson Capt. Alexander Robertson (1745-1830) becoming chief of Clan Donnachaidh in 1823; he is the ancestor in male of the present chief.
>
> I am very much restricted to secondary sources and would love to see that marriage contract.
>
> In the meantime I had already been adding to the Robertson family but these additions won't be visible on genealogics until about 1 March.
>
> My source is "Burke's Landed Gentry of Great Britain, The Kingdom of Scotland, 19th edition, volume 1, published 2001.
>
> On pages 1170, 1171 Robert 'Rob Ban' Robertson of Invervack is shown with his family. It gives
>
> Robert (Bane) of Invervack, born circa 1673, died 1777 at Invervack
> married (1) NN no children
> married (2) a daughter of Donald (Og) Robertson of Blairfetty
> ......four sons only Donald, Duncan, Alexander, Charles
> married (3) a daughter of Donald Robertson of Kindrochit
> ......two daughters Margaret, Elizabeth, neither shown as married
> married (4) a daughter of Neil Stewart, a cadet of the family of Foss
> .......children Neil, John, Amelia none marked as married
>
> This article misses out on so many dates which does not help.
>
>
> Hope this helps?
> Leo van de Pas,
> Canberra, Australia
The Red Book of Perthshire states she was the daughter of Sir John Stewart of Bute, a natural son of King Robert II of Scots. I do not have Landed Gentry before me, but their account of Robertson of Struan is very incomplete, inaccurate and dated. You can find Gordon MacGregor's "The Clan Donnachaidh: A genealogical account" at http://www.donnachaidh.com/pdf/cadetfamilies.pdf. This has a complete account of the marriages of Robert "Ban" Robertson's children, and of the Struan chiefs. My recent research in Jamaican records, which is yet to be published, will expand some areas of his account.
> Hope this helps?
> Leo van de Pas,
> Canberra, Australia
Jeffery Duvall via
Jan 31, 2016, 3:40:48 PM1/31/16
to riemoreseanachaidh, gen-me...@rootsweb.com
This is slightly off-topic, but I am wondering if anyone has run across information which might confirm, or deny, Thomas Falconer's claim in "The Family of Dalmahoy of Dalmahoy, Ratho, County of Edinburgh (London, 1870), p. 4, that Robert Dalmahoy of Dalmahoy's wife was "Janet Robertson of the family of Strowan, charter dated 13 August 1455." The Dalmahoys were discusses a couple of years ago on this list, but I don't believe this Robertson marriage was addressed at that time, so I thought I'd float it now since the Robertson of Struan (a.k.a. Strowan) is currently under discussion.
Thanks.
Jeff Duvall
jef...@iquest.net
jdu...@iupui.edu
Thanks.
Jeff Duvall
jef...@iquest.net
jdu...@iupui.edu
jhigg...@yahoo.com
Jan 31, 2016, 5:39:36 PM1/31/16
to
On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 10:03:02 PM UTC-8, riemorese...@gmail.com wrote:
> The Red Book of Perthshire states she was the daughter of Sir John Stewart of Bute, a natural son of King Robert II of Scots. I do not have Landed Gentry before me, but their account of Robertson of Struan is very incomplete, inaccurate and dated. You can find Gordon MacGregor's "The Clan Donnachaidh: A genealogical account" at http://www.donnachaidh.com/pdf/cadetfamilies.pdf. This has a complete account of the marriages of Robert "Ban" Robertson's children, and of the Struan chiefs. My recent research in Jamaican records, which is yet to be published, will expand some areas of his account.
[end quote]
> The Red Book of Perthshire states she was the daughter of Sir John Stewart of Bute, a natural son of King Robert II of Scots. I do not have Landed Gentry before me, but their account of Robertson of Struan is very incomplete, inaccurate and dated. You can find Gordon MacGregor's "The Clan Donnachaidh: A genealogical account" at http://www.donnachaidh.com/pdf/cadetfamilies.pdf. This has a complete account of the marriages of Robert "Ban" Robertson's children, and of the Struan chiefs. My recent research in Jamaican records, which is yet to be published, will expand some areas of his account.
Can you double-check the URL you cite above? Clicking on it leads to a site selling "generic Viagra"....
taf
Jan 31, 2016, 6:18:54 PM1/31/16
to
taf
jhigg...@yahoo.com
Jan 31, 2016, 8:36:58 PM1/31/16
to
riemorese...@gmail.com
Feb 1, 2016, 10:25:37 AM2/1/16
to
VII. Robert Dalmahoy of that ilk, who married Janet Robertson, a daughter of the family of Strowan, which appears by a charter granted by Robert Dalmahoy of that ilk, with consent of Janet Robertson his spouse, in favours (sic) of Thomas Libberton burgess of Edinburgh, of some lands in Over Libberton, dated 13 August 1455.
This cites "Writs in the custody of Mr. Little of Libberton," as the source.
The charter makes no mention of Janet Robertson's family. Statements like "of the family of Strowan" are not uncommonly attached to anyone with the surname Robertson. On the other hand, 1455 is very early for that name to be connected with the Strowan family. The first baron of Strowan, who died in 1460, is called Robert Duncanson, a simple patronymic (his father was Duncan). The second baron was Alexander Robertson and that become the surname thereafter.
0 new messages