Four husbands of Eleanor Hungerford?
Kate Stromsted
I was reading through the notes on pg. 287 of John Stow's "A Survey of
London," and found an indication that Eleanor Hungerford, ancestress of
Edward Raynsford and George Yate, may have had a fourth husband. The note
calls Eleanor the daughter of Lewes John (who was really her father-in-law);
however, it correctly identifies her first three husbands in order: John
White, Sir William Tirrell, and Sir Henry Fitz Lewes. I think that since
the note was correct in the identification and order of Eleanor's
husbands, it might also be correct in its identification of a fourth: Thomas
Garthe, esquire, "treasurer to Edward, late Duke of Bokyngham."
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Kate Stromsted
Kate Stromsted
Tirrell, and Sir Henry Fitz Lewis married a fourth time, to Thomas Garthe,
it would narrow her death date down to after May 9, 1480. Another
(secondary) source seems to indicate that Eleanor's third husband
predeceased her:
Since Eleanor Hungerford and Thomas Garthe (if she married him) probably had
no children, the only major genealogical significance of this fourth
marriage is that it helps estimate Eleanor's death date.
Kate Stromsted
wjhonson
http://books.google.com/books?id=3g8IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA683&dq=thomas+garthe+treasurer
Will Johnson
Douglas Richardson
Thomas Garthe, Esquire, the fourth husband of Eleanor Hungerford,
served as one of the executors of Thomas Bourchier, Archbishop of
Canterbury, in 1486. Following the death of Eleanor Hungerford, he
married (2nd) before 4 April 1497 Margaret (or Margery) Lewknor, widow
of John Wood, Knt., of East Molesey, Surrey and Hampton Court,
Treasurer of England, Knight of the Shire for Sussex, 1449-1450, 1472-
1475, Knight of the Shire for Surrey, 1460-1461, 1476, and probably
1483, Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex, 1475, Speaker of the House of
Commons, 1483, and daughter of Roger Lewknor, Knt., of Trotton,
Sussex. Thomas Garthe, Esq., left a will proved 8 August 1505 (P.C.C.
Holgrave), requesting burial in the church of St. Mary Colechurch,
London.
Thus Eleanor Hungerford appears to have predeceased Sir Thomas Garthe
sometime before 4 April 1497. For details of the life history of Sir
John Wood, Treasurer of England, Speaker of the House of Commons, see
Roskell, Parliament & Politics in Late Medieval England (1981): 383,
et seq. You can also find much less exact information regarding Sir
John Wood in his biogrqaphy in the Dictionary of National Biography,
which can be found at the following weblink:
http://books.google.com/books?id=uDsJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA360-IA1&dq=John+Wood+Speaker+Parliament
I've copied below several records relating to Thoams Garthe which were
drawn from the online National Archives and the A2A Catalogues.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Source: National Archives Catalogue (http://
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp)
1. C 1/138/34: Thomas Garth, esquire, and Margery, his wife, late the
wife of John Woode, knight, treasurer of England. v. John, son of John
Threle, feoffee to uses.: Annuity in the manor of Pulborough late of
the said Sir John.: Sussex.
Covering dates 1486-1493, or 1504-1515
2. STAC 1/2/132: Plaintiff: Thomas Jakson, priest, and Peter Reynald
servants of Thomas Garthe, esquire. Defendant: John Ernley,
gentleman, and a jury Place or Subject: Verdict for deft in an action
before the mayor and aldermen of London for forcible entry in St
Olave,Jewry County: London
Covering dates [post 5 Hen VII]
Source: A2A Catalogue (http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp)
1. West Sussex Record Office: Additional Manuscripts, catalogue 16
a. Reference: Add Mss 12323
Copy of enrolled return of the Sheriff of Sussex to a writ of fieri
facias
Creation dates: Easter Term 1489
That Thomas Garth, late of London, esq., administrator of the goods
and chattels of John Wode, bt., late Treasurer of England, has no
goods or chattels, either as such administrator or of his own, in his
bailiwick, upon which to levy a debt of 40 marks which Edmund Dawtrey,
esq., recovered in the King's court against the said Thomas, and 10
marks awarded in the same court for damages; whereupon a writ of
capias ad satisfaciendum has been issued. Edmund appears by John
Whetham, his attorney.
(Endorsed, 'For the retourne of Fieri Fac' xijd. For the puttyng in
afar day iiijd. For the capias ad satisfac' xixd. For the copy viijd.
For the attourney Fee xxd. Summa vs. iijd.)
b. Reference: Add Mss 12325
Bond in £40 of (a) Lady Margaret Wood, widow, to (b) Edmund Dawtrey
Creation dates: 4 April 1497
Physical characteristics: (Seal)
For the keeping by (a) of a release made to her by (b) so that it is
not used by Thomas Garthe, or any other person having administration
of the goods of Sir John Wode, late Treasurer of England and husband
of (a), in defence of any action brought by (b) against the said
Thomas upon a bond in £100, 20 September 1468, of Sir John Wood by the
name of John of Wood, late of Mulsey Molesey (co. Surrey) and John
Wood, late of Midhurst, to (b)
jhigg...@yahoo.com
> Dear Kate ~
>
> Thomas Garthe, Esquire, the fourth husband of Eleanor Hungerford,
> served as one of the executors of Thomas Bourchier, Archbishop of
> Canterbury, in 1486. Following the death of Eleanor Hungerford, he
> married (2nd) before 4 April 1497 Margaret (or Margery) Lewknor, widow
> of John Wood, Knt., of East Molesey, Surrey and Hampton Court,
> Treasurer of England, Knight of the Shire for Sussex, 1449-1450, 1472-
> 1475, Knight of the Shire for Surrey, 1460-1461, 1476, and probably
> 1483, Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex, 1475, Speaker of the House of
> Commons, 1483, and daughter of Roger Lewknor, Knt., of Trotton,
> Sussex. Thomas Garthe, Esq., left a will proved 8 August 1505 (P.C.C.
> Holgrave), requesting burial in the church of St. Mary Colechurch,
> London.
>
> Thus Eleanor Hungerford appears to have predeceased Sir Thomas Garthe
> sometime before 4 April 1497.
[snip]
What's conveniently left unstated here in this avalanche of citations
is that this is a correction to the enthusiastic poster's "Plantagenet
Ancestry" and "Magna Carta Ancestry". I guess the poster is
enthusiastic only about noting corrections to CP, while overlooking
the errors in his own works.