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William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors

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WJho...@aol.com

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Jun 2, 2006, 10:00:22 PM6/2/06
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Leo http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00377490&tree=LEO

is showing his father as another William and this William's wife as Goda de
Toeni

but nothing furhter back then this father.

But I notice in my database that I have a "William de Mohun of Dunster" who
married Agnes de Gant and was living in 1141

This seems like a likely set of parents.

Will

Leo van de Pas

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Dear Will,

What you suggest is the same as what Weiss gives in his 7th edition page
126. Thanks for steering me into that direction.
Leo

Leo van de Pas

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Jun 2, 2006, 11:28:21 PM6/2/06
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Will Johnson made me start looking at the ancestors of this William de Mohun
and I found interesting ancestors but also a question.

Weiss in his 7th edition pages 125 and 126 gives that Walter de Gaunt
married Maud (or Matilda) of Brittany, daughter of Stephen I, Count of
Brittany (214-24) and this helps to establish who we are looking at. BUT ES
Volume III/1 in the back has pages with corrections and additions. The
original entry for the Dukes of Brittany is in Volume II Tafel 75, and the
corrected version in III/1 tells

Etienne I (=Stephen) was Count of Treguier and Lamballe died 1137, married
Havise de Guincamp. They had five children :
1. Geoffrey II Botterel, Count de Penthievre
2.Alain II, Earl of Richmond
3.Agnorie wife of Olivier II de Dinan
4.Henri, Count de Treguier et de Guincamp for his descendants see ES III/1
Tafel 155
5.Olive, married (1) Henri de Fougeres (2) Guillaume de Saint-Jean

no Maud or Matilda. Does anyone know what is going on here?
With many thanks.
Leo van de Pas
Canberra, Australia


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Tim Powys-Lybbe

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In message of 3 Jun, leov...@netspeed.com.au ("Leo van de Pas") wrote:

> Will Johnson made me start looking at the ancestors of this William de Mohun
> and I found interesting ancestors but also a question.
>
> Weiss in his 7th edition pages 125 and 126 gives that Walter de Gaunt
> married Maud (or Matilda) of Brittany, daughter of Stephen I, Count of
> Brittany (214-24) and this helps to establish who we are looking at. BUT ES
> Volume III/1 in the back has pages with corrections and additions. The
> original entry for the Dukes of Brittany is in Volume II Tafel 75, and the
> corrected version in III/1 tells
>
> Etienne I (=Stephen) was Count of Treguier and Lamballe died 1137, married
> Havise de Guincamp. They had five children :
> 1. Geoffrey II Botterel, Count de Penthievre
> 2.Alain II, Earl of Richmond
> 3.Agnorie wife of Olivier II de Dinan
> 4.Henri, Count de Treguier et de Guincamp for his descendants see ES III/1
> Tafel 155
> 5.Olive, married (1) Henri de Fougeres (2) Guillaume de Saint-Jean
>
> no Maud or Matilda. Does anyone know what is going on here?

No.

But Keats-Rohan in Domesday Descendants, p. 473 says that Walter de
Gand's wife was Matidlda, daughter of Count Stephen, lord of Richmond.
She references Clay's Early Yorkshire Charters Vol 5, No 390 on p. 342
which is, in Clay's words:

"Notification by Maud, daughter of count Stephen of Britanny and wife
of Walter de Gant..."

(I'm omitting the latin.)

Regrettably K-R in DD 224 does not list all his children in her
paragraph on Stephen on p. 224. Nor does Clay show any daughters of
Stephen in his pedigree of the dukes of Britanny in EYC Vol 4, p. 84.

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Leo van de Pas

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Jun 3, 2006, 4:51:09 AM6/3/06
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Confusing!!! :-(

We have encountered
Stephen Count of Brittany
Etienne/Stephen Count of Treguier and Lamballe
Count Stephen Lord of Richmond

CP V page 785 to 787 cal.ls him Stephen, a count of Brittany (how many were
there?)
here his wife is called Hawise whose parentage is unknown, she was Countess
of Guingamp by her marriage. See footnote e on page 787.
Leo


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Saturday, 3 June, 2006


Dear Leo, et al.,

Following for your review is what I have for Stephen, 'count
of Brittany' (& c.) and his immediate issue. This is not
complete, as I note I have included nothing to date for his
son Henri, for example.

Besides the matter of Stephen's daughter Maud, wife of Walter
de Gant, there is a correction pointed out some time ago re:
Stephen's daughter Aginore (also called Aginore de Penthievre).
She was identified as the wife of Alan de Dinan, not Oliver by
Todd Farmerie (see Todd, Mike Talbot et al., <Vitri>, SGM,
June 24, 1998).

Cheers,

John

1 Stephen of Richmond
----------------------------------------
Death: 21 Apr 1135[1]
Burial: quire of St. Mary's, York
Occ: Lord of Richmond
Father: Eudo of Brittany (-1079)
Mother: NN

lord of the honour of Richmond (succeeded brother Alan by 1098)[1]
Succeeded to Breton lands of Geoffrey Boterel in 1093 or 1098, and
to honour of Richmond on death of brother Alan in 1093.
Benefactor of abbey of St. Mary, York (1125-1135)
founded Augustinian abbey of Ste. Croix and Guingamp, and Cistercian
abbey of Begard in 1130[2]

also styled 'Stephen, count of Brittany' [CP VIII:672][2]

Spouse: Hawisa[1]
Death: aft 1134[2]

Children: Alan 'the Black' (-1146)
Maud
Aginore
Olive (->1162)


1.1 Alan 'the Black' of Richmond
----------------------------------------
Death: 15 Sep 1146[3]
Occ: Lord of the 'Honour of Richmond' - 1146[3]

2nd son; succeeded to the honour of Richmond
Given lands of de Dunstanville in Cornwall by King Stephen,
1140 - assumed title of Earl of Cornwall.
Fought for Stephen at Battle of Lincoln, 2 Feb 1141 (defeated);
captured by Ranulf of Chester, paroled before Christmas 1141[2]

lst husband of Bertha of Brittany[4],[2]

Held to be first Earl of Richmond (CP X:788)[2]

Spouse: Bertha of Brittany
Death: bef 1167[2],[4]
Father: Conan III of Brittany (-1148)
Mother: Maud of England

Children: Conan IV (-1171)
Brian (-<1171)


1.1.1 Conan IV of Brittany
----------------------------------------
Death: 20 Feb 1171, probably Guingamp, Brittany[3],[4]
Occ: Duke of Brittany 1156-1166 and Earl of Richmond

Lord of Richmond, co. York.
Crossed to Brittany Sept 1156, captured Rennes, defeated and
captured his stepfather Eudon of Porhoet - recognized as Duke
of Brittany[2]
In England at the Council of Clarendon, Jan 1164 (ex. charter
at Wilton for Le Mont St. Michel)[2]

Conan, duke of Brittany and earl of Richmond, restored to Torfin fitz
Robert (de Manfield) the forfeited Manfield fee of 2 knights, held
of the honour of Richmond, ca. 1159-1171
' by Hermer his great-grandfather [attavus] and Godreda [Gutherith],
Hermer's daughter. ' [EYF 57, cites EYC V: 55 and the charter of
Duke Conan, EYC IV, no. 55[5]]

~ Note: given that Duke Conan was dispossessed of his honour of
Richmond by Henry II ca. 1166, this charter should be dated
ca. 1159 - 1166.
_______________________

Deposed from his duchy by Henry II: following his return to the
continent in 1166 and the capture of the castle of Fougeres
(July 1166), Henry II
'had decided on a more drastic solution to the problem of
Brittany and the insecurity of the marchlands. He seems to
have held Duke Conan responsible for failing to keep order,
and indeed the intervention of the constable of Normandy in
August 1164 suggests that Conan was either unwilling to
discipline his vassals or incapable of subduing them. Henry
deposed him: his heiress, the infant Constance, was
betrothed to Henry's seven-year-old son Geoffrey, and
Conan retired to his ancestral county of Guingamp.'[4]

1st husband of Margaret of Huntingdon

Spouse: Margaret of Huntingdon
Birth: abt 1150
Death: 1201[2]
Father: Henry of Scotland, Earl of Northumberland (~1115-1152)
Mother: Ada de Warenne (ca1120-1178)
Marr: 1160[2]

Children: Constance (ca1162-1201), Duchess of Brittany


1.1.2 Brian fitz Alan
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 1171[5]

held 5 knights' fees of the Honour of Richmond[5]

cf. Clay, Early Yorkshire Families, p. 27[5]

Children: Alan fitz Brian (-ca1187), m. Agnes Haget


1.2 Maud of Brittany[2]
----------------------------------------

had the church and lands of St. Andrew in Swaledale as her
maritagium:
'Matildis filia consulis Stephani Brittaniae, uxor Walteri de
Gaunt', gave the church of St. Andrew in Swaledale to
Bridlington priory, from her maritagium, with the consent
of her lord (husband) Walter [Mon. Angl. VI(1):287, Num. IX[6]]

' Matilda, dau. Stephen, count of Brittany ' [ EYC II:433[7]]

Spouse: Walter de Gant
Death: 1139[2],[8]
Father: Gilbert de Gant (-ca1095)
Mother: Alice de Montfort

Children: Gilbert (ca1120-1156)
Alice
NN
Robert (-1191)


1.2.1 Gilbert de Gant
----------------------------------------
Birth: ca 1120[2]
Death: 1156, d.s.p.m.[2]
Occ: Earl of Lincoln

created Earl of Lincoln ca. 1147; d.s.p.m.[2]

his grant to the monks of Rufford confirmed by Sir Gilbert de Gant,
ca. 1200-1218:
' Confirmation of Grant Gilbert de Gant to Monks of Rufford all
lands in Rufford and lands which Gilbert Count of Lincoln gave
them in Eakring and 30 acres on banks of Trent at Kelham, lands
in Cracela, 2 bovates in Wilgebi which Ralph Selvanus held, land
in Barton ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:
Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/206 - DD/SR/215], TITLE DEEDS:
Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, etc: Charters: Rufford,
ref. DD/SR/208/96[9]

Spouse: Rohese de Clare
Death: aft 1156[2]
Father: Richard de Clare (-1136)
Mother: Adeliza of Chester

Children: Alice (-1185), m. Simon III de St. Liz


1.2.2 Alice de Gant
----------------------------------------

manor of Empingham given as her marriage portion in marrying Roger
de Mowbray-cf. CP Vol X (Mowbray), p. 371n[2]

' Aaliz de Gant ', gave lands at 'Litlehage' to Fountains Abbey
[Mon.Angl. V:309, Num. LXXI[6] - confirmation by her son Nigel
de Mowbray]

m. 1stly Ilbert de Lacy,
2ndly Roger de Mowbray[2]

Spouse: Roger de Mowbray
Death: 1188, Palestine (or en route to England)[2]
Father: Nigel d'Aubigny (-ca1129)
Mother: Gundreda de Gournay

Children: Nigel de Mowbray, of Melton Mowbray (-1191)
Robert de Mowbray
NN, a nun at Abbaye des Dames, Caen


1.2.3 NN de Gant[2]
----------------------------------------

sister of Gilbert de Gand, Earl of Lincoln (DP 326)[10]

see CP XII:437, sub _Welles_[2]

Spouse: William fitz Walter, of Wells, co. Lincs.
Death: bef 1198[2]
Father: Walter fitz Ragemer

Children: Robert fitz William, of Welle (-<1207)
Isabel, m. Robert fitz Hugh de Tateshal


1.2.4a Robert de Gant*
----------------------------------------
Death: 1191[8]

2nd husband

Charter, undated [est. c 1155 - 1191]:
' Charter of Robert de Gant reciting that when his brother Earl
Gilbert founded the abbey of Rufford he gave it all his domain
as is recited in the monks' charters, not excepting the church
of Aicringe which is situated in that domain and attesting that
this church belongs to the monks ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/102/35[9]

Spouse: Alice Pagnell

Children: Avice, m. Robert fitz Robert ('de Ghent')


1.2.4b Robert de Gant* (See above)
----------------------------------------

Spouse: Gunnor[2]

Children: Sir Gilbert de Gant, of Folkingham (ca1180-<1241)
Stephen


1.3 Aginore of Richmond[11]
----------------------------------------

also called Aginore de Penthievre[11] probably 'Aenor', given
granddaughter 'Eleanor' and her name.

identification as wife of Alan de Dinan, not Oliver by Todd A.
Farmerie (citing CP; versus identification as per K.S.B.
Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants p. 434[12])[11]

Spouse: Alan de Dinan[2]
Death: bef 1166[13]
Father: Geoffroi II de Dinan (->1122)
Mother: Orieldis

Children: Emma (-1208)
Roland (-<1190)


1.3.1 Emma de Dinan[2]
----------------------------------------
Death: 18 Dec 1208[11]

Spouse: Robert III de Vitre[2]
Death: ca 1184[11]
Father: Robert II de Vitre (-ca1161)
Mother: Emma de la Guerche

Children: Andre de Vitre
Eleanor, m. 1) William, Earl of 'Salisbury' [Wiltshire]
Alan de Dinan, of Burton, Northants.


1.3.2 Roland de Dinan
----------------------------------------
Death: bef 1190, d.s.p.[13],[12]

of Burton, co. Northants.

held lands in Hartland, Devon (lost due to his support of Breton
rebellions against Henry II of England);
justiciar in Brittany for Geoffrey, duke of Brittany
(Henry II's son) [DD 434][12]

tenant of Burton in 1166 and 1173[13]

cf. Chope p. 421[14]


1.4a Olive of Richmond*
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 1162[12]

received manor of Long Bennington, co. Lincoln (maritagium ?) from
her father[3]

benefactor of the abbey of Lucerne together with then-husband
William de St. John and his brother Robert, 1162 (DD 691)[12]

she m. lstly Henry de Fougeres,
2ndly William de St. John[12]

Spouse: Henri de Fougeres [1st husband]
Death: 1154[3]
Father: Raoul de Fougeres (-1124)
Mother: Avice de Bienfaite

Children: Raoul II (-1194)
Clemence


1.4a.1 Raoul II de Fougeres
----------------------------------------
Death: 1194[3]
Occ: seigneur de Fougeres

seigneur de Fougeres

had guardianship of the seigneurie of Dol and the heiress
[evidently Iseulde, daughter of John], at bequest of John
of Dol 1162 (the castle of Dol taken by Henry II of England
in 1162).[4][cf DD 437, cites Robert de Torigny, 214[12]]

He therefore became an early opponent of Henry II:
'While Henry was in England [Jan 1163 - 1166] a league had
been formed among the border barons of Brittany and Maine, led
by Ralph de Fougeres, to resist his lordship.'[4]

castle of Fougeres razed by Henry's forces following its
capture, July 1166[4]

supporter of the Young King in his rebellion against Henry
II, 1173 - captured in 1174, imprisoned until ca 1177
(restored to his lands)[4]

made seneschal of Brittany by Duke Geoffrey, ca 1181[4]

deserted Henry II and joined the side of Philip and
Richard - forfeited for same by Richard, 1189[15]

Spouse: Jeanne de Dol[3]
Father: Geldouin de Dol (-1137)
Mother: Noga de Tinteniac

Children: Guillaume de Fougeres (-1187), m. Agatha de Humez
Margaret, m. Waleran de Meulan


1.4a.2 Clemence de Fougeres
----------------------------------------

'daughter of Henry de Fougeres' [DD 597[12]]

Spouse: Robert 'II' de Montfort
Death: 1178[12]
Father: Hugh de Montfort
Mother: Adeline de Beaumont

Children: Hugh
Robert
Raoul
William
Henry
Aline


1.4b Olive of Richmond* (See above)
----------------------------------------

Spouse: William de St. John [2nd husband]
Death: bef 1195, d.s.p.[12]
Father: Roger de St. John (-ca1130)
Mother: Cecily de la Haie

1. David C. Douglas, "William the Conqueror," University of
California Press (English Monarch Series), 1964.
2. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint,
1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland
Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
3. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral
Roots of Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical
Pub. Co.
4. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973,
[English Monarchs Series].
5. Sir Charles Clay, ed., "Early Yorkshire Families," The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series), 1973, Vol. CXXXV.
6. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding &
Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green, 1830, Vol. VI, Pt. 1 - Austin
Abbey of Wigmore, in Herefordshire, pp. 348-356 [Fundationis et
Fundatorum Historia], Vol. VI, Pt. 2 - Priory of Bullington,
co. Lincs., pp. 951-954, URL

http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=2659
7. William Farrer, Hon.D.Litt., Editor, "Early Yorkshire Charters,"
Ballantyne, Hanson & Co., Edinburgh, 1915-1916, Vol. II (1915)
Vol. III (1916), Vol. XII [the family of Constable of
Flamborough], courtesy Rosie Bevan, Vol. V [Manfield fee,
pp. 53-58 ], courtesy Rosie Bevan, <Re: Avice de Tanfield,
wife of Robert Marmion>, SGM, 26 Feb 2002.
8. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
9. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
10. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press,
1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English
Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to
Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts,
ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of
Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe
de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909),
titre no. 182).
11. Mike Talbot, "Vitri," June 24, 1998, GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com
additional commentary by Todd A. Farmerie (ta...@po.cwru.edu).
12. K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday Descendants," The Boydell Press,
Woodbridge, 2002, cited by Rosie Bevan, 'Re: de Stuteville'
Jul 2, 2002, p. 723 (Osmund de Stuteville), full title: Domesday
Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons, Occurring in English
Documents 1066-1166: Pipe Rolls to Cartae Baronum.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Eleanor de Vitre," August 15, 2002, paper copy:
library of John P. Ravilious, citations from Rosie Bevan :
rbe...@paradise.net.nz, citation from Victoria County History
of Northants., vol. 3, p. 181 [which cites Red Book of Exchequer,
Rolls series, 331-2; Great Roll of the Pipe (Pipe Roll Soc.), xi,
119; xii, 54; xxi, p.53].
14. "R. Pearse Chope," The Early History of the Manor of Hartland,
Report and Transactions of the Devonshire Association for the
Advancement of Science, Literature, and Art, Vol. XXXIV [Vol.
IV, 2nd series], Plymouth: W. Brendon and Son, 1902, pp. 418-449.
15. "Richard I," John Gillingham, New Haven: Yale University Press,
1999, 129, 152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.

Roger LeBlanc

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I was also not sure who exactly was being discussed in this thread, but
thanks to John's post I have figured out that I have a connection at
this point-

>1.1 Alan 'the Black' of Richmond
>----------------------------------------
>Death: 15 Sep 1146[3]
>Occ: Lord of the 'Honour of Richmond' - 1146[3]
>
>2nd son; succeeded to the honour of Richmond
>Given lands of de Dunstanville in Cornwall by King Stephen,
> 1140 - assumed title of Earl of Cornwall.
>Fought for Stephen at Battle of Lincoln, 2 Feb 1141 (defeated);
> captured by Ranulf of Chester, paroled before Christmas 1141[2]
>
>lst husband of Bertha of Brittany[4],[2]
>
>Held to be first Earl of Richmond (CP X:788)[2]
>
>Spouse: Bertha of Brittany
>Death: bef 1167[2],[4]
>Father: Conan III of Brittany (-1148)
>Mother: Maud of England
>
>Children: Conan IV (-1171)
> Brian (-<1171)
>
>
>
>

I know him in my notes as Alain II le Noir de Penthievre, 1st Comte de
Richmont. Among his children, was there not as well a daughter Constance
who married Alain III Vicomte de Rohan? I had not explored his ancestry,
so I am glad to see this placement.

Roger LeBlanc

Gordon and Jane Kirkemo

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John,

I was comparing your information with what I have on file, and I found a
discrepancy regarding the children of Stephen of Richmond. I cite the
following from DD (page 729) under the heading of "de Tancarville, Rabel":

"Son of William de Tancarville (d.1129) and Matilda of Arques. Held his
father's office of Chamberlain in Normandy. Married first Theophania,
daughter of Stephen of Richmond, by whom he had issue William, his
successor, and Oliva, wife of William Malet of Graville, and secondly Agnes
(Fees, p.1044,for 1242/43, Lincolnshire: 'set est de honore Britannie et
data fuit antiquitus in maritagio cum Theophania filia comitis Stephani, et
iterum data fuit in maritagio cum Oliva sorore Willelmi camerarii de
Tancarvilla'). He died in 1140.

This seems to suggest an additional daughter for Stephen, although the
mother is not named. I hope this is of interest.

Sincerely,

Gordon Kirkemo

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Saturday, 3 June, 2006

Dear Leo, et al.,

Following for your review is what I have for Stephen, 'count

of Brittany' (& c.) and his immediate issue. This is not

complete, as I note I have included nothing to date for his

son Henri, for example.

Besides the matter of Stephen's daughter Maud, wife of Walter

de Gant, there is a correction pointed out some time ago re:

Stephen's daughter Aginore (also called Aginore de Penthievre).

She was identified as the wife of Alan de Dinan, not Oliver by

Todd Farmerie (see Todd, Mike Talbot et al., <Vitri>, SGM,

June 24, 1998).

Cheers,

John

1 Stephen of Richmond

- --------------------------------------

Death: 21 Apr 1135[1]

Burial: quire of St. Mary's, York

Occ: Lord of Richmond

Father: Eudo of Brittany (-1079)

Mother: NN

lord of the honour of Richmond (succeeded brother Alan by 1098)[1]

Succeeded to Breton lands of Geoffrey Boterel in 1093 or 1098, and

to honour of Richmond on death of brother Alan in 1093.

Benefactor of abbey of St. Mary, York (1125-1135)

founded Augustinian abbey of Ste. Croix and Guingamp, and Cistercian

abbey of Begard in 1130[2]

also styled 'Stephen, count of Brittany' [CP VIII:672][2]

Spouse: Hawisa[1]

Death: aft 1134[2]

Children: Alan 'the Black' (-1146)

Maud

Aginore

Olive (->1162)

1.1 Alan 'the Black' of Richmond

- --------------------------------------

Death: 15 Sep 1146[3]

Occ: Lord of the 'Honour of Richmond' - 1146[3]

2nd son; succeeded to the honour of Richmond

Given lands of de Dunstanville in Cornwall by King Stephen,

1140 - assumed title of Earl of Cornwall.

Fought for Stephen at Battle of Lincoln, 2 Feb 1141 (defeated);

captured by Ranulf of Chester, paroled before Christmas 1141[2]

lst husband of Bertha of Brittany[4],[2]

Held to be first Earl of Richmond (CP X:788)[2]

Spouse: Bertha of Brittany

Death: bef 1167[2],[4]

Father: Conan III of Brittany (-1148)

Mother: Maud of England

Children: Conan IV (-1171)

Brian (-<1171)

1.1.1 Conan IV of Brittany

- --------------------------------------

Death: 20 Feb 1171, probably Guingamp, Brittany[3],[4]

of Brittany[2]

ca. 1159 - 1166.

_______________________

(July 1166), Henry II

Spouse: Margaret of Huntingdon

Birth: abt 1150

Death: 1201[2]

Marr: 1160[2]

1.1.2 Brian fitz Alan

- --------------------------------------

Death: bef 1171[5]

held 5 knights' fees of the Honour of Richmond[5]

cf. Clay, Early Yorkshire Families, p. 27[5]

Children: Alan fitz Brian (-ca1187), m. Agnes Haget

1.2 Maud of Brittany[2]

- --------------------------------------

had the church and lands of St. Andrew in Swaledale as her

maritagium:

'Matildis filia consulis Stephani Brittaniae, uxor Walteri de

Gaunt', gave the church of St. Andrew in Swaledale to

Bridlington priory, from her maritagium, with the consent

of her lord (husband) Walter [Mon. Angl. VI(1):287, Num. IX[6]]

' Matilda, dau. Stephen, count of Brittany ' [ EYC II:433[7]]

Spouse: Walter de Gant

Death: 1139[2],[8]

Father: Gilbert de Gant (-ca1095)

Mother: Alice de Montfort

Children: Gilbert (ca1120-1156)

Alice

NN

Robert (-1191)

1.2.1 Gilbert de Gant

- --------------------------------------

Birth: ca 1120[2]

Death: 1156, d.s.p.m.[2]

Occ: Earl of Lincoln

created Earl of Lincoln ca. 1147; d.s.p.m.[2]

his grant to the monks of Rufford confirmed by Sir Gilbert de Gant,

ca. 1200-1218:

' Confirmation of Grant Gilbert de Gant to Monks of Rufford all

lands in Rufford and lands which Gilbert Count of Lincoln gave

them in Eakring and 30 acres on banks of Trent at Kelham, lands

in Cracela, 2 bovates in Wilgebi which Ralph Selvanus held, land

in Barton ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile of Rufford:

Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/206 - DD/SR/215], TITLE DEEDS:

Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, etc: Charters: Rufford,

ref. DD/SR/208/96[9]

Spouse: Rohese de Clare

Death: aft 1156[2]

Father: Richard de Clare (-1136)

Mother: Adeliza of Chester

Children: Alice (-1185), m. Simon III de St. Liz

1.2.2 Alice de Gant

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manor of Empingham given as her marriage portion in marrying Roger

de Mowbray-cf. CP Vol X (Mowbray), p. 371n[2]

' Aaliz de Gant ', gave lands at 'Litlehage' to Fountains Abbey

[Mon.Angl. V:309, Num. LXXI[6] - confirmation by her son Nigel

de Mowbray]

m. 1stly Ilbert de Lacy,

2ndly Roger de Mowbray[2]

Spouse: Roger de Mowbray

Death: 1188, Palestine (or en route to England)[2]

Father: Nigel d'Aubigny (-ca1129)

Mother: Gundreda de Gournay

Children: Nigel de Mowbray, of Melton Mowbray (-1191)

Robert de Mowbray

NN, a nun at Abbaye des Dames, Caen

1.2.3 NN de Gant[2]

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sister of Gilbert de Gand, Earl of Lincoln (DP 326)[10]

see CP XII:437, sub _Welles_[2]

Spouse: William fitz Walter, of Wells, co. Lincs.

Death: bef 1198[2]

Father: Walter fitz Ragemer

Children: Robert fitz William, of Welle (-<1207)

Isabel, m. Robert fitz Hugh de Tateshal

1.2.4a Robert de Gant*

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Death: 1191[8]

2nd husband

Charter, undated [est. c 1155 - 1191]:

' Charter of Robert de Gant reciting that when his brother Earl

Gilbert founded the abbey of Rufford he gave it all his domain

as is recited in the monks' charters, not excepting the church

of Aicringe which is situated in that domain and attesting that

this church belongs to the monks ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire

Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers

[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/102/35[9]

Spouse: Alice Pagnell

Children: Avice, m. Robert fitz Robert ('de Ghent')

1.2.4b Robert de Gant* (See above)

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Spouse: Gunnor[2]

Children: Sir Gilbert de Gant, of Folkingham (ca1180-<1241)

Stephen

1.3 Aginore of Richmond[11]

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also called Aginore de Penthievre[11] probably 'Aenor', given

granddaughter 'Eleanor' and her name.

identification as wife of Alan de Dinan, not Oliver by Todd A.

Farmerie (citing CP; versus identification as per K.S.B.

Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants p. 434[12])[11]

Spouse: Alan de Dinan[2]

Death: bef 1166[13]

Father: Geoffroi II de Dinan (->1122)

Mother: Orieldis

Children: Emma (-1208)

Roland (-<1190)

1.3.1 Emma de Dinan[2]

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Death: 18 Dec 1208[11]

Spouse: Robert III de Vitre[2]

Death: ca 1184[11]

Father: Robert II de Vitre (-ca1161)

Mother: Emma de la Guerche

Children: Andre de Vitre

Eleanor, m. 1) William, Earl of 'Salisbury' [Wiltshire]

Alan de Dinan, of Burton, Northants.

1.3.2 Roland de Dinan

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Death: bef 1190, d.s.p.[13],[12]

of Burton, co. Northants.

held lands in Hartland, Devon (lost due to his support of Breton

rebellions against Henry II of England);

justiciar in Brittany for Geoffrey, duke of Brittany

(Henry II's son) [DD 434][12]

tenant of Burton in 1166 and 1173[13]

cf. Chope p. 421[14]

1.4a Olive of Richmond*

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Death: aft 1162[12]

received manor of Long Bennington, co. Lincoln (maritagium ?) from

her father[3]

benefactor of the abbey of Lucerne together with then-husband

William de St. John and his brother Robert, 1162 (DD 691)[12]

she m. lstly Henry de Fougeres,

2ndly William de St. John[12]

Spouse: Henri de Fougeres [1st husband]

Death: 1154[3]

Father: Raoul de Fougeres (-1124)

Mother: Avice de Bienfaite

Children: Raoul II (-1194)

Clemence

1.4a.1 Raoul II de Fougeres

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Death: 1194[3]

Occ: seigneur de Fougeres

seigneur de Fougeres

capture, July 1166[4]

Mother: Noga de Tinteniac

1.4a.2 Clemence de Fougeres

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'daughter of Henry de Fougeres' [DD 597[12]]

Spouse: Robert 'II' de Montfort

Death: 1178[12]

Father: Hugh de Montfort

Mother: Adeline de Beaumont

Children: Hugh

Robert

Raoul

William

Henry

Aline

1.4b Olive of Richmond* (See above)

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Spouse: William de St. John [2nd husband]

Pub. Co.

[English Monarchs Series].

http://monasticmatrix.usc.edu/bibliographia/index.php?function=detail&id=265
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titre no. 182).

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