Lathom and Huddleston: descents from Godard de Boiville
The...@aol.com
Dear Doug, et al.,
Many thanks for your post of yesterday, including the relevant
text from VCH (Lancs.) concerning Robert de Lathom. The text of the
article does not itself rule out the previously alleged Alfreton
descent, stating re: Amicia de Alfreton that "she probably died
without issue, as these manors [Alfreton & c.] did not remain with
the Lathom family." However, given the subsequent release by Robert
de Lathom of his rights in the lordship of Alfreton to Thomas de
Chaworth, this seems most likely. Add to this that Amicia de
Alfreton was most likely born say 1200-1215 (her nephew Thomas de
Chaworth was born say 1225) and that Sir Robert de Lathom [her
previously alleged son] died ca. 1325, it does seem most likely that
Sir Robert was the son of Joan de Millom as stated in the VCH account
and elsewhere [1].
A beneficial outgrowth of this research is that the ancestry of
Joan de Millom, given in the detailed pedigree below, can now be
appended to that of the Lathoms of Lathom. Joan de Millom married
1stly John de Huddleston, a member of a junior branch of the
Huddlestons of Huddleston [2]. The manor of Millom descended to her
issue by that marriage. Her 2nd marriage to Robert de Lathom is not
noted by Clay, nor does it receive mention in the VCH account which
Doug has provided; however, evidence of the association of John
de Huddleston (son or grandson of Joan by her 1st husband) with
Sir Robert de Lathom (her son by her 2nd) is found in the following
document, which they both witnessed:
Quitclaim of all services due from the manor of Barton, 13 Apr 1304:
(1) Lord William of Clifton
(2) John of Barton
Which (2) and his heirs hold of (1), reserving to (1) the rights of
taking dead wood from the common woods in Barton (except from Barton
park and the woods in Barton fields), for burning, building and
fencing at Sir William's messuages at Clifton, and of keeping fifty
pigs in the wood called Stockorheuid.
Witnesses: Lord John of Hodeliston [Hoddleston], Lord Robert of Lathum
[Lathom], Lord Henry of Kyghley [Keighley], Sir William Banaster,
knight, Thomas Travers, sheriff of Lancashire, Richard de Hoghton,
Gilbert of Singelton [Singleton], William of Sotheworth [Southworth].
Given at Lancaster, the Monday before the feast of Tibertius and
Valerianus, 32 Edward I [3]
In addition to the descent of Joan de Millom from Godard de
Boiville, this pedigree reflects in part the following relationships (1st
and 2nd marriages for Sir Robert de Lathom noted <1> and <2>):
Adam de Millom
(or de Boiville)
I_____ _____________
I I I
I <2> <1> I I
1) John de = Joan de = 2) Sir Robert = Amicia de Alice de
Huddleston I Millom I de Lathom Alfreton Alfreton
d. ca. 1252 I I m. bef 1260 (dsp) = William de
I I Chaworth
I I I
Sir John de Sir Robert de Lathom I
Huddleston d. 1325 I
(fl. 1304 ?) I I
I I I
V V V
from whom, from whom, from whom,
HUDDLESTON of LATHOM of Lathom, CHAWORTH
Millom STANLEY of Lathom & c. of Alfreton
and Wiverton
Again, thanks to Doug McDonald for his efforts in researching
this relationship. Any comment, criticism or relevant documentation
concerning the above is welcome, as always.
Cheers,
John *
NOTES (to post):
[1] William Farrer and J. Brownbill, M.A., eds., The Victoria History
of the County of Lancaster [London: A. Constable and Company,
Ltd.], III:249-250. See also R. Bodine, The Ancestry of Dorothea
Poyntz.
[2] Sir Charles Clay, ed., "Early Yorkshire Families," The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series), 1973, Vol. CXXXV, pp. 7,
46.
[3] A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Papers of the Kay Shuttleworth
Family of Gawthorpe [DDKS 1 - DDKS 16], DDKS 1/4
http://www.a2a.org.uk
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1 NN de Boiville
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father of Godard de Boiville and others
[cf. EYF p. 7[1]]
Children: Godard
NN
1.1 Godard de Boiville
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of Millom, Cumberland
held lands by service of one knight's fee of William le Meschin of
Copeland
' Godardus ', witness to grant by William fitz Ranulf of his lands
in Kirkeby to the priory of St. Bees, Cumbs. [Mon. Angl. III:576,
Num. II[2]]
seneschal of Ranulf le Meschin, son of William [EYF pp. 6-7[1]]
Children: Arthur
1.1.1 Arthur de Boiville
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of Millom, Cumberland
fl. 1152[1]
revoked his father's gift of Bordley to Furness Abbey; he then gave
the lands of Bordley to Fountains Abbey [EYF p. 7[1]]
' In a charter of Arthur son of Godard he referred to Robert de
Boiville, the donor of land in Kirksanton, par. Millom, to Furness
abbey not later than 1152, as the son of his uncle. ' [EYF p. 7[1],
cites Furness Coucher, ii, 513-4; also in EYC VII:277-8]
Children: Henry
1.1.1.1 Henry de Millom
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of Millom, Cumberland
' Henrici filii Arturi ', gave the land of Austhwaite in Eskdale to
Benedict fitz Ketil [confirmed in a charter by his son [A2A, Cumbria
Record Office and Local Studies Library, Whitehaven: Stanley Family
of Dalegarth, Eskdale: Lands in Austhwaite, Birkby, Ponsonby, and
Gosforth , DSTAN/1/1 [5]; Latin text, William - Whitehaven Record
Office D/Stan/1/1[3]]
cf. EYF p. 7[1]
Children: William
Adam
1.1.1.1.1 William de Millom
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of Millom, Cumberland
he d.s.p., succeeded by his brother Adam
Confirmation [Not dated]:
' 1. William, son of Henry, son of Arthur.
2. Benedict, son of Ketell.
Premises: Auestwaite, given to Benedict by Henry, by these
bounds; by Bircherhebec against the mountain as far as the stream
which falls from the moss below Satgotard, and from thence to another
stream which falls from the same moss into Durvokeswater, and as
Lindebec falls from Durvokeswater as far as the Esch, and by the
Esch against the mountain to Bircherhebec, paying yearly to William
and his heirs 17 pence,-reserving to William and his heirs stag,
hind, and boar, in the woods, and pannage for hogs.
Witnesses: Ralph Corbet, William, son of Ketell, Richard, son
of Alan, William, son of Hugh, Richard de Morching, Alexander, son
of Ulf, William, son of Waldev.' - A2A, Cumbria Record Office and
Local Studies Library, Whitehaven: Stanley Family of Dalegarth,
Eskdale: Lands in Austhwaite, Birkby, Ponsonby, and Gosforth ,
DSTAN/1/1 [5]; Latin text, Whitehaven Record Office D/Stan/1/1 [3]
1.1.1.1.2 Adam de Millom
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of Millom, Cumberland
successor to his brother William
' Adam son of Henry de Millom ' [EYF p. 7]
cf. EYC p. 7[1]
VCH (Lancs.) III:249-250[4]
Children: Joan
1.1.1.1.2.1a Joan de Millom*
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heir of her father
she m. 1stly John de Huddleston,
2ndly (as 2nd wife) Sir Robert de Lathom
cf. EYC p. 7[1]
VCH (Lancs.) III:249-250[4]
Spouse: John de Huddleston [1st husband]
Death: ca 1252[1]
Children: NN
1.1.1.1.2.1a.1 NN de Huddleston
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heir of his mother
ancestor of Huddleston of Millom [1]
cf. EYF p. 44 [1]
1.1.1.1.2.1b Joan de Millom* (See above)
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Spouse: Sir Robert de Lathom [2nd husband]
Death: ca 1290[4]
Father: Richard de Lathom
Marr: bef 1260[4]
Children: Sir Robert (->1320)
Richard (->1320)
Henry
1.1.1.1.2.1b.1 Sir Robert de Lathom
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Death: aft 28 Oct 1320[5]
of Lathom, co. Lancs.
' Robert, Lord of Lathum ', witness (together with Lord William the
Bottler, Robert, Lord of Holland and others) to agreement dated Fri.
before Nativity St. John. Baptist. 26 Ed. son of Hen. [20 June 1298]:
' Agreement: William son. of Henry of Lee and William son of Henry
of Clifton - W.L. grant to W.C. 30 ac. land in Clifton Marsh, as an
improvement.
Witn: Lord William the Bottler, Robert, Lord of Lathum, Robert,
Lord of Holland, the Lord John Devias, the Lord Eustace of Cotesbek,
Thomas Banastre, Adam of Midilton, Robert of Haydock, Gilbert of
Syngleton, Robert of Condeclif John Banastre, Henry of Lee, John of
Burton, clerk. Given at...., Fri. before Nativity St. John. Baptist.
26 Ed. son of Hen.' - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Clifton of
Lytham, Deeds and Documents : Clifton-with-Salwick. Clifton Marsh,
DDCL 1240[5]
' Lord Robert of Lathum ', witness (together with Lord John of
Hodeliston and others] of a quitclaim of all services due from the
manor of Barton , dated at Lancaster, the Monday before the feast of
Tiberius and Valerianus, 32 Edward I [13 April 1304]
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Papers of the Kay
Shuttleworth Family of Gawthorpe [DDKS 1 - DDKS 16], DDKS 1/4[5]
Charters for a market (Fri) and fair [vfm, Wilfrid (12 Oct)] at Roby,
co. Lancs. granted 29 Jul 1304, by King Edward I to Robert de Lathom
(CChR, 1300–26, p. 46) 'To be held at the manor'[6]
Charters for a market (Tues) and fair [vfm, Barnabas (11 Jun)] at
Lathom, co. Lancs. granted 29 Jul 1304, by King Edward I to Robert de
Lathom (CChR, 1300–26, p. 46) 'To be held at the manor'[6]
'Sir Robert de Lathum', entered into agreement dated 2 Ed II [1308-09]
with Sir Hugh de Eland for the marriage of their children:
' Agreement for marriage between John, son of Sir Hugh de Eland' and
Alice daughter of Sir Robert de Lathum, providing for their ultimate
possession of Sir Hugh's lands in Eland', Tankerlay and Rochdale
(Elland, Yk Tankersley, Yk Rochdale, Yk) ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire
Archives: Savile of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers
[DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205], DD/SR/28/3/1[5]
Grant dated [reign of Edward II, i.e. 1307-1327]:
' Parties Names: Richard de Lathum.
His brother Sui Robert de Lathum & Katerine his wife
Grant of le [...] Rosheheye with Turnoinsholm-upon-Dogeles in
Perbolde, formerly held [...] by Master Robert of Ryponne.
[...] Wiln William of Stonedyst, Thomas of Longetre, John of
Cleemale Henry of [...] Tunlegh, Henry of Wytton, John of de Cross,
Robert of the Taldeforth, Richard of [...] Bresthone '
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Stanley, Earls of Derby (of
Knowsley) [DDK/100 - DDK/240], Deeds and Conveyances: BURSCOUGH,
DDK/133/1[5]
' Robert de Lathum....knight', witness (with William de Dacre and
others) to Grant by Richard de Loughteburgh to Henry fil. Thome de
Chernok, of all his land in Longerudyngh in Chorlegh, which he had
by grant from Richard del Haselhurst. Rent, 7 shillings, dated
Boulton, Sat. the F. of St. Mary Magd. [22 July] 29 Edw.I [1301]
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Tatton of Cuerden, CO. LANCASTER.
CHARNOCK, CHORLEY, ETC : DDTA 13[5]
' Robert de Lathum....knight', witness (with William de Dacre and
others) to Lease by Adam fil. Henrici de Chernok to Gilbert de
Bullyng, clerk, and his heirs, etc. for his life and for six years
after his death, of four pieces of land with buildings in Chorlegh
called, respectively, Le Merfeld, le Haukehurst, Haypughil and le
Lungeridyng, all of which Robert, the said Adam's brother held for
his life with common of pasture, quittance of pannage, etc. as is
contained in the charters of Richard de Lughteburgh; rent, a grain
of pepper at Midsummer, dated at Chorlegh, Fri. bef. Easter [9 Apr.]
9 Edw. II [1316] - A2A, Lancashire Record Office: Tatton of Cuerden,
CO. LANCASTER. CHARNOCK, CHORLEY, ETC : DDTA 26[5]
Lease by Richard de Lathum to Robert de Lathum, his brother, and his
wife Katherine, dated 28 Oct 1320
- A2A, Manchester University, John Rylands Library: Rylands Charters
[RYCH/1 - RYCH/1942], NORTHWICH, WINNINGTON, etc. (co. Chester),
RYCH/872[5]
he evidently d. in 1325 or before: the IPM of Sir Robert de Lathom
stated to have been held in 1325
Spouse: Katherine de Knowsley
Father: Sir Thomas de Knowsley
Children: Sir Thomas de Lathom(-1370)
Alice, m. Sir John de Eland
Philip
1.1.1.1.2.1b.2 Richard de Lathom
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Death: aft 28 Oct 1320[5]
Lease by Richard de Lathum to Robert de Lathum, his brother, and his
wife Katherine, dated 28 Oct 1320
- A2A, Manchester University, John Rylands Library: Rylands Charters
[RYCH/1 - RYCH/1942], NORTHWICH, WINNINGTON, etc. (co. Chester),
RYCH/872[5]
1.1.1.1.2.1b.3 Henry de Lathom
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' Grant: Robert, lord of Lathun, in his independent power and full
health, to Henry his son -- all the vills of Quithul and Wadaker
-- rendering a pair of gloves. Witn. William, lord of Paverton,
Alan lord of Windhul, Thurstan of Holand, William of Molyneus. '
- A2A, Lancashire Record Office: The Scarisbrick Muniments
[DDSC 1 - DDSC 43A], DDSC 37/1[5]
1.2 NN de Boiville
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cf. EYF p. 7[1]
Children: Robert
1.2.1 Robert de Boiville
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of Kirksanton in Millom, Cumberland
' In a charter of Arthur son of Godard he referred to Robert de
Boiville, the donor of land in Kirksanton, par. Millom, to Furness
abbey not later than 1152, as the son of his uncle. ' [EYF p. 7[1],
cites Furness Coucher, ii, 513-4; also in EYC VII:277-8]
1. Sir Charles Clay, ed., "Early Yorkshire Families," The Yorkshire
Archaeological Society, Record Series), 1973, Vol. CXXXV.
2. Sir William Dugdale, "Monasticon Anglicanum," London: Harding &
Lepard; and Longman Rees... Green
3. "13th CENTURY AUSTHWAITE CHARTERS," text of charter of William fitz
Henry fitz Arthur, Whitehaven Record Office D/Stan/1/1,
http://freespace.virgin.net/past.presented/austhwaiteb.htm
4. William Farrer and J. Brownbill, M. A., eds., "The Victoria
History of the County of Lancaster," London: A. Constable and
Company, Ltd., 1906-1914, Vol. III:249-250, text provided by
Douglas McDonald, <Lathom and Chaworth: descents from Robert de
Alfreton>, GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com, 23 January 2005.
5. "Access to Archives," http://www.a2a.pro.gov.uk/
6. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516,"
www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
* John P. Ravilious
Chris Dickinson
You may already be aware of his, but the Hudleston family has produced at
least one professional genealogist - C. Roy Hudleston (I notice that The
National Archives describes him as a journalist and antiquary). He died
about 15 years ago - sadly, I only realised a week after his death that he
lived in a square in Hove next to me.
Anyway, I would guess that he did some fairly thorough research on the
Hudlestons. Certainly his book on 'Cumberland Families and Heraldry' has
lengthy entries on the Hudlestons of Millom, the Hudlestons of Hutton John,
the Hudlestons of Kelston, and the Hudlestons of Rainors. His papers, which
I would think worth digging through, are deposited at Durham University.
Chris
the...@aol.com
Dear Chris,
Thanks for the advisory re: C. Roy Hudleston. Unfortunately,
Durham is geographically inaccessible (whether UK or NC), but I will
make a note re: his Cumberland Families and Heraldry for a future
fossick at the LOC.
Cheers,
John