Arnulph de Montgomery

[ED MANN]

I have an Arnulph de Montgomery, father of Alice who m. Maurice
FitzGerald.

Descendants of Arnolph de Montgomery

1 Arnolph de Montgomery ref #: BxP:204
+Lafracoth O'Brien ref #: BxP:204
2 Alice de Montgomery ref #: (Ä178-3)
+Sir Maurice FitzGerald b: Abt. 1100 d: 1 Sep 1176 ref #: Ä178-3
3 Sir Gerald FitzMaurice aka: 1st Baron Offaly b: Abt. 1150 d: Bef.
15 Jan 1203/04 ref #: Ä178-4
+Eve de Bermingham d: Bef. Dec 1226 ref #: (Ä178-4)
3 Thomas FitzMaurice d: 1213 ref #: BxP:204
+Elinor de Marisco ref #: BxP:204

Arnulph is said to be the son of Roger de Montgomery. Can anyone tell
me which Roger? A likely candidate is:

Descendants of Roger II de Montgomery

1 Seigneur Roger II de Montgomery b: Abt. 1005 d: 27 Jul 1094 ref #:
(Ä185-1)
+Mabel Talvas de Alencon aka: Mabel Talvas b: Abt. 1015 d: 2 Dec
1079 ref #: (Ä185-1)

Comments?

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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

[Todd A. Farmerie]

ED MANN wrote:
>
> I have an Arnulph de Montgomery, father of Alice who m. Maurice
> FitzGerald.
>
> Descendants of Arnolph de Montgomery
>
> 1 Arnolph de Montgomery ref #: BxP:204
> +Lafracoth O'Brien ref #: BxP:204
> 2 Alice de Montgomery ref #: (Ä178-3)
> +Sir Maurice FitzGerald b: Abt. 1100 d: 1 Sep 1176 ref #: Ä178-3

> Arnulph is said to be the son of Roger de Montgomery. Can anyone tell

> me which Roger? A likely candidate is:
>
> Descendants of Roger II de Montgomery
>
> 1 Seigneur Roger II de Montgomery b: Abt. 1005 d: 27 Jul 1094 ref #:
> (Ä185-1)
> +Mabel Talvas de Alencon aka: Mabel Talvas b: Abt. 1015 d: 2 Dec
> 1079 ref #: (Ä185-1)
>
> Comments?

This sort of gets the dount in the wrong place. That Arnulf was son of
Roger and Mabel, and that he married an Irish princess are facts beyond
doubt. That Alice, wife of Maurice Fitz Gerald was their daughter is
something that mas not been found in any source closer in date than 600+
years afterwards.

taf