Re: SP Addition: Agnes Graham, wife of Sir John Douglas (d. ca. 1350)
John P. Ravilious
Wednesday, 16 November, 2005
Hello All,
I spoke earlier today with Andrew MacEwen, who had reviewed the
evidence concerning the identification of Agnes de Graham as (1) wife
of
Sir John de Douglas, and (2) daughter of Sir John de Graham of
Dalkeith
(d. 1337) by his wife. Andrew stated that he concurs in the
identification, stating that he sees this as 'solid', expressing
surprise
(given the availablity of the Papal Letters at the time) that the
author
of the SP account for Douglas, Earl of Morton had missed the evidence.
With his confirmation of this identification, I am forwarding a
brief
AT for Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (d. 1420). This may not provide
a
major addition to the ancestry of most Douglas of Dalkeith
descendants,
but for those without previously known Graham of Abercorn ancestry it
will
introduce a line of descent from the Earls of Strathearn, Muschamp of
Wooler and a few other families.
A note to certain list members (Neil, Leo, Ian) that this will
modify
the ancestry of King Charles II, and of Prince William. The
identification numbers for Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith (d. 1420) for
both "A Medieval Heritage: The Ancestry of Charles II, King of
England"
and Genealogics are cited below.
Cheers,
John *
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Ancestry of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith
1 Sir James Douglas.
died in 1420.[1]
laird of Dalkeith
probably born before dispensation for his parents' marriage,
12 Oct 1344 [Papal Letters III:165[2]]
received grant of the lands of Dalkeith from his uncle Sir William
Douglas, under entail of 3 Nov 1351 (confirmation by charter from
King David II, 1369)[1],[3]
a dispute with Thomas Erskine, widower of cousin Maria Douglas, was
resolved between 1365 and 30 June 1367 through trial by combat,
between
Sir James and Sir Thomas, before King David II:
' they fought fiercely, and were with difficulty separated, even at
the
command of the King ' [agreement reached before 30 June 1367; SP
VI:345,
cites Douglas Book, i.254[1] ]
served heir to his cousin Maria Douglas (deceased wife of Thomas
Erskine),
30 June 1367
recognized by King Robert III of Scots as his kinsman,
charter to Duncan, Earl of Lennox dated Dunfermline, 9 November 1392
[ witnessed by ' Archibaldo de Douglas domino Galwydie consanguineo
nostro dilecto, comitibus, Jacobo de Douglas domino de Dalkeith et
Thoma
de Erskyne consanguineis nostris dilectis, militibus ', among others;
Lennox pp. 10-11[4]]
' Jac. de Douglas dom. de Dalketht [knight]', witness (together with
Robert, Earl of Fife and Mentieth, Archibald, earl of Douglas and
Galloway, and Sir Thomas Erskine) to charter of King Robert III to
'Ade de Mure de Rowalane militi, et Jonete de Danyelstoune sponse
ejus'
of the lands of 'Polnekel, Grey, Drumbuy' & c. in the barony of
Cunyngham, co. Ayr. erected into the free barony of Polkellie
('Polnekel') following their resignation of same, at Dumbarton,
6 Dec 1393 (confirmed by King James II, 3 Dec 1440 - RMS p. 58,
no. 253[5])
' James of Douglas, lord ..of Dalkeith ', witness together with Robert
Erskine of charter of King Robert III to David Fleming of the lands of
Cavers, dated Erskyn, 10 Aug 1405 [Charter Chest/Wigtown, p.5,
no. 19[6] ]
he m. 1stly Agnes Dunbar[1],[3]
2ndly Egidia Stewart[1]
cf. SP VI:344-5, sub _Douglas, Earl of Morton_ [1]
Thompson and Hansen 12(1):88 #1042[7]
Genealogics I00006206[8]
bef 22 Nov 1372 Sir James married Agnes Dunbar.[3]
2 Sir John de Douglas.
died bef 25 Jan 1349/50, Forgywood (murdered).[1]
dispensation for his marriage to Agnes de Graham (her name has been
proven in the dispensation for her marriage):
" 1344.
4 Id. Oct. To the bishop of St. Andrews. Faculty to
Avignon. grant dispensation to John de Duglas, knight,
(f. 140d.) and Agnes de Grame to intermarry, they having
lived together and had offspring, notwithstanding
the assertion made that Agnes was aunt of a woman
with whom John had cohabited, Agnes being
ignorant of the said impediment. A penance is to
be enjoined on John, and two chaplaincies of 10
marks each are to be founded within two years.
Their past and future offspring is to be
declared legitimate.
[Cal. Pet. i.79; Theiner, 282.] " [Papal Letters
III:165[2]]
murdered by Sir David Barclay in 'Forgywood' [Sir David Barclay later
murdered in revenge, in Aberdeen, 25 Jan 1350] [SP I:223, cites
Fordun[1]]
aft 12 Oct 1344 Sir John married Agnes de Graham[1],[2].[2]
cf. SP VI:342-3, sub _Douglas, Earl of Morton_ [1]
Ravilious, "SP Addition: Agnes Graham, wife of Sir John Douglas"
[9]
3 Agnes de Graham.[1],[2]
her name has been proven in the dispensation for her marriage:
[Papal Letters III:165[2]]
identified only as ' Agnes, who has been identified as Agnes Munfode,
widow of John Munfode ' in Scots Peerage [SP VI:343[1]]; possibly she
was married prior to her marriage to Sir John de Douglas.
cf. SP VI:342-3, sub _Douglas, Earl of Morton_ [1]
Ravilious, "SP Addition: Agnes Graham, wife of Sir John Douglas"
[9]
4 Sir James de Douglas.
died bef 20 Apr 1323.[1]
laird of Hermiston
had a grant of the lands of Kincavil and East Calder in co. Linlithgow,
at a rental of £12 5s. 10d., by charter from King Robert I, 2 April
1315
(additional rent of 10 merks per annum payable to Reginald Crauford,
for
the service of an archer in the royal army) [SP VI:338, cites Reg.
Honor.
de Morton, 12; ii, 11[1] ]
Sir James married Joan.
5 Joan.
died aft 1336.[1]
6 Sir John de Graham.
died on 25 Apr 1337, he was 58.[1],[10]
born bef 19 May 1278.[1]
laird of Dalkeith
b. before 19 May 1278 [an inquisition of 19 May 1306, concerning the
Muschamp inheritance, found that he was 28 years of age [SP VI:195[1],
cites Cal. Doc. Scot., iii. 392]
supporter of King John (Baliol), capitulated to King Edward I with John
Comyn at Strathord, 1303/04
joined with King Robert the Bruce
confirmed grants by the Avenel tenants of Eskdale to Melrose Abbey
(confirmed by King Robert I, 25 Dec 1316) [SP VI:196[1]]
' John de Graham ', a Surety of the Arbroath Declaration, 6 April 1320
(Barrow pp. 424-8)[11]
cf. SP VI:195-6[1]
Sir John married Isabella.
7 Isabella.
widow of Sir John Graham, 'who had a terce of his lands in crichton...
and a lease of the other two-thirds.' [SP VI:196[1]]
8 William de Douglas.
laird of Hermiston, Midlothian
had charter of confirmation for Hermiston from King Alexander III,
1277[1]
' William fiz Andrew de Douglas ', performed homage to King Edward I at
Berwick, 28 August 1296[1],[12]
12 Sir Nicholas de Graham.
died bef 14 Jun 1306.[1],[10]
laird of Dalkeith and Abercorn
of Wooler, Northumberland:
held by the service of 1 knight's fee, 1277;
owed the service of 1 knight's fee for a quarter of the Muschamp
barony of Wooler, 1282 (Sanders, p. 101)[10]
one of the auditors for the claim of Bruce at Berwick, 2 June
1292 [SP VI:195[1] ]
he d. before 14 June 1306, when his widow did homage to King Edward I
of England for her Northumberland lands [SP VI:195[1]]
cf. SP VI:195[1]
Genealogics I00139256[8]
bef 1269 Sir Nicholas married Mary of Strathearn.[1]
13 Mary of Strathearn.
died in 1322, she was 73.[1],[10]
Born bef 20 Mar 1248/9.[1]
Occupation: baroness of Muschamp.
younger daughter and coheir (eventual sole heir) of her mother[10]
' Nicholas de Grame and Maria his wife ' held a market in Wooler,
Northumberland in 1293, together with Walter de Huntercumb [her cousin
and the other coheir],
'which they claimed from time out of mind ' (QW, p. 601).[13]
as widow of Nicholas Graham, held Wooler by the service of
2 knights' fees, 1311 (Sanders p. 101)[10]
Wooler passed on her death to the Huntercomb heir, her cousin[10] (her
husband Nicholas de Graham 'adhered to the Scots')
cf. Chart. Inchaffray, lxiv[14]
SP VI:195[1]
SP VIII:247[1]
Genealogics I00139257[8]
16 Sir Andrew de Douglas.
died ca 1277.[1]
laird of Hermiston, Midlothian
younger son
witness together with his brother William Douglas in a charter granted
to
the monks of Dunfermline, 1248 [SP VI:338, cites Reg. de Dunfermelyn,
97[1] ]
24 Sir Henry de Graham.
died aft 5 Feb 1283.[1]
laird of Dalkeith
gave certain lands to his cousin David de Graham, confirmed by King
Alexander III, charter dated at St. Andrew, 27 Dec 1253:
' donacionem illam quam Henricus de Grahame fecit eidem Dauid de villa
de Cliftun cum pertinenciis suis,...' [The Lennox II:13-15, No.
12[15]]
attended the parliament at Scone, 4 Feb 1283/4 which acknowledged
Margaret
of Norway as heir to the Scots throne [SP VI:194[1]]
cf. SP VI:194-5[1]
Sir Henry married NN de Avenel.
25 NN de Avenel.
heiress of Abercorn and Eskdale
cf. SP VI:194[1]
26 Malise of Strathearn.
died bef 23 Nov 1271.[1]
Earl of Strathearn 1242-1270[1]
granted the advowson of Cortachy [co. Forfar, in the diocese of
Brechin]
to Inchaffray priory, 12 Dec 1257 [Cowan pp. 69, charter on p.
71[16]]
attended Scots Parliaments in 1244 and 1245;
guarantor of the treaty with England, 1244[16]
' Malis comes Straern ', one of the Regents of Scotland and guardians
of
Alexander III, appointed 20 September 1255[17]
he m. 1stly Marjory de Muschamp,
2ndly Matilda of Orkney,
3rdly Emma _______,
4th Mary mac Dougall[1]
cf. Chart. Inchaffray, lxiii-lxiv[14]
SP VIII:245-7[1]
bef 20 Mar 1244 Malise married Marjorie de Muschamp.[1]
27 Marjorie de Muschamp.
died bef 20 Mar 1254.[10],[1]
2nd daughter and coheiress of her father (Sanders p. 100)[10]
1st wife of Malise, Earl of Strathearn[1]
cf. SP VIII:247[1]
32 Archibald de Douglas.
died aft 1238.[1]
laird of Douglas
' received, some time before 1226, the lands of Hermiston in Midlothian
and Livingston in West Lothian from Malcolm, Earl of Fife '
[ SP VI:337, sub Douglas, Earl of Morton, cites Reg. Honoris de
Morton,
i. pp. xxxiii, xxxiv[1] ]
' Archibaldo de Dufglas', witness (together with Walter fitz Alan the
Steward) to charter of Aulay, brother of Maldouen, earl of Lennox
['Amelec frater Maldoveni comitis de Levenax'] to Paisley Abbey, ca.
March 1238 [Lennox, pp.13-14[4]]
Archibald married Margaret de Crawford.
33 Margaret de Crawford.
48 Sir Henry de Graham.
died aft 1233.
of Dalkeith and Simundburn in Tynedale, Northumberland
cf. SP VI:194[1]
Sir Henry married NN.
49 NN.
50 Roger de Avenel.
died in 1243.[1],[18]
of Abercorn, co. Linlithgow and Eskdale, co. Dumfries
cf. SP VI:194[1]
52 Robert of Strathearn.
died bef 1244.[1]
Earl of Strathearn 1223-1242
witness to charters of father Earl Gilbert, 1199 until succession ca.
1223
witness to treaty of York between Alexander II and Henry III of
England,
25 Sept 1237 [SP VIII:244, cites Foedera, Rec.ed., i, 233[1]]
cf. Chart. Inchaffray, lx-lxii[14]
SP VIII:243-244[1]
Robert married NN de Moravia.
53 NN de Moravia. NN died aft 1246.[1]
her identification as a daughter of Hugh de Moravia (or Sir Hugh
Freskin)
by a dau. of Duncan, Earl of Fife by Andrew B. W. MacEwen[19].
Evidently,
her maritagium included lands in Durie, co. Fife later granted by
Reynold
le Cheyne to her son Gilbert [cf. SP VIII:245[1]]
' His wife's name has not been ascertained, but she survived him, and
was
alive in 1247, perhaps later. ' [SP VIII:244, cites Charters of
Inchaffray,
No. 76[1]]
54 Sir Robert de Muschamp.[1] Sir Robert died in 1250.[10]
of Wooler, Northumberland
' Robert de Muschans ', had charter for a market at Wooler, granted 21
Aug 1199, by King John, ' To be held in Wllov'a ' (RCh, p. 11)[13]
' Robertus de Multo Campo et J., uxor ejus, ij.', held lands in
Yorkshire
of the Archbishop of York by the service of 2 knights' fees, 1210-1212
[Red Book of the Exchequer, II:495[20]]
cf. Sanders, p. 100[10]
EYC II:127-8[21]
SP VIII:246[1]
Sir Robert married Isabel.
55 Isabel.
' J., uxor ejus, ij.', held lands in Yorkshire (together with her
husband)
of the Archbishop of York by the service of 2 knights' fees, 1210-1212
[Red Book of the Exchequer, II:495[20]]
'J.' was evidently Isabella:
' In the following year he [Earl Malise of Strathearn, in 1251] was
impleaded to warrant lands claimed by Isabella, widow of Robert, in
dower, including the manor of Harndon, in Northamptonshire. ' [Chart.
Inchaffray lxiii, cites Bain, i. 1801[14]]
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GEN-MED...@rootsweb.com,
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John
P. Ravilious.
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Rosie Bevan, , SGM,
26 Feb 2002.
* John P. Ravilious
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
Cheers,
John *
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laird of Dalkeith
laird of Hermiston
Sir James married Joan.
laird of Dalkeith
Sir John married Isabella.
7 Isabella.
8 William de Douglas.
laird of Hermiston, Midlothian
laird of Dalkeith
25 NN de Avenel.
laird of Douglas
33 Margaret de Crawford.
Sir Henry married NN.
49 NN.
Earl of Strathearn 1223-1242
of Wooler, Northumberland
Sir Robert married Isabel.
55 Isabel.
Rosie Bevan, <Re: Avice de Tanfield, wife of Robert Marmion>, SGM,