Ancestry of Angelina Jolie
wjhonson
http://www.wargs.com/other/voight.html
Angelina is a 10th cousin to me.
I noticed the relatively good possibility that an extensive addition
could be made, when I noticed in her tree Paul Jette and his wife
Marie-Louise Robillard. There is no guess as to when they lived but
their daughter Marie Marguerite Jette married Jean-Baptiste Bertrand
in 1822.
Would anybody be interested in assisting me in trying to work up this
Jette line, taking this part back to the immigrants? I have just
found this marriage record for this Paul and Marie-Louise. Anybody
who is interested would probably need access to some of the major
works (or online resources) on French-Canadian ancestry.
Thanks
Will Johnson
Denis Beauregard
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
Working on it but I think this is not very relevant to medieval
genealogy. Thus far, nothing before 1500...
Denis
wjhonson
details, see here
http://knol.google.com/k/will-johnson/ancestry-of-angelina-jolie/4hmquk6fx4gu/110
Denis Beauregard
<denis.b-at-f...@fr.invalid> écrivait dans
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>Le Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:56:51 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <wjho...@aol.com>
>écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>
>>W.A.R. has given us a first stab at her ancestry here
>>
>>http://www.wargs.com/other/voight.html
>>
>>Angelina is a 10th cousin to me.
>>
>Working on it but I think this is not very relevant to medieval
>genealogy. Thus far, nothing before 1500...
Correction : she descends from Catherine de Baillon, so she has
medieval ancestry...
Except for minor improvements, I have completed the work...
Denis
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Denis Beauregard
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>W.A.R. has given us a first stab at her ancestry here
>
>http://www.wargs.com/other/voight.html
>
>I noticed the relatively good possibility that an extensive addition
>could be made, when I noticed in her tree Paul Jette and his wife
>Marie-Louise Robillard. There is no guess as to when they lived but
>their daughter Marie Marguerite Jette married Jean-Baptiste Bertrand
>in 1822.
Done :-)
http://www.francogene.com/genealogie/artistes/angelina-jolie.php
I stopped at the generation where there are only ancestors of
Catherine de Baillon, i.e. where there is no more commoners.
wjhonson
francogene....@fr.invalid> wrote:
> Le Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:56:51 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com>
> écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>
> >W.A.R. has given us a first stab at her ancestry here
>
> >http://www.wargs.com/other/voight.html
>
> >I noticed the relatively good possibility that an extensive addition
> >could be made, when I noticed in her tree Paul Jette and his wife
> >Marie-Louise Robillard. There is no guess as to when they lived but
> >their daughter Marie Marguerite Jette married Jean-Baptiste Bertrand
> >in 1822.
>
> Done :-)
>
> http://www.francogene.com/genealogie/artistes/angelina-jolie.php
>
> I stopped at the generation where there are only ancestors of
> Catherine de Baillon, i.e. where there is no more commoners.
>
> Denis
There is more Denis.
At position 100-102 (at least) are also more French Canadians. I'm
not sure about 103 Olive Wolfe, but 102 Prudent Fortier has
possibilities. I'm going to see if I can find more on him.
Will
Denis Beauregard
écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>There is more Denis.
>At position 100-102 (at least) are also more French Canadians. I'm
>not sure about 103 Olive Wolfe, but 102 Prudent Fortier has
>possibilities. I'm going to see if I can find more on him.
Done too. I forgot to link this line yesterday but nonetheless, I
made the search. I need about 30 minutes to relink the complete
database and then I will refresh my page.
12 BERTRAND, George, fils de Louis BERTRAND (24) et de Delina
Adeline MAYETTE (25)
13 LEDUC, Angeline
Now, if you can find the parents of Angeline Leduc... I don't have
access to ancestry.com from home but I presume that something could
be find from the censuses.
D. Spencer Hines
isolated.
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francogene....@fr.invalid> wrote:
> Le Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:53:16 -0800 (PST), wjhonson <wjhon...@aol.com>
> écrivait dans soc.genealogy.medieval:
>
> Now, if you can find the parents of Angeline Leduc... I don't have
> access to ancestry.com from home but I presume that something could
> be find from the censuses.
>
> Denis
>
> --
> Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
> Les Français d'Amérique du Nord -www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/
> French in North America before 1722 -www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/
> Sur cédérom à 1770 - On CD-ROM to 1770
Denis and group,
I published Angelina's French-Canadian ancestry in "Michigan's
Habitant Heritage" (published by the French-Canadian Heritage Society
of Michigan) starting with the April issue of 2008 and running through
October. Due to her ancestry from Catherine Baillon, the ancestry
stopped in October.
For those interested in the French Canadian ancestry, you can see her
ancestry at the following link in my database at RootsWeb:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=wolfordsheppard&id=I133640
Sources are found on the individual pages.
For those who are only interested in her medieval ancestry, from the
pedigree view, follow Marie Madeleine Miville (who married Nicolas
Lizot) back to Catherine Baillon. Her line is extended back to
medieval royalty. The royal ancestry is based on René Jetté, John
DuLong, R Yves Gagné and Gail Moreau DesHarnais' superbly documented
book on Catherine de Baillon.
Diane Wolford Sheppard
D. Spencer Hines
pedigree view, follow Marie Madeleine Miville (who married Nicolas
Lizot) back to Catherine Baillon. Her line is extended back to
medieval royalty. The royal ancestry is based on René Jetté, John
DuLong, R Yves Gagné and Gail Moreau DesHarnais' superbly documented
book on Catherine de Baillon.
Diane Wolford Sheppard
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Could you please show us this Royal Ascent of Angelina, or is it too on the
web?
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Baillon project or something like that.
It discusses the research into her ancestry. I don't recall the exact URL
right now, and I'm on my way out the door, but if no one else has found it, I
will look for it later today.
Will
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Denis Beauregard
soc.genealogy.medieval:
>Could you please show us this Royal Ascent of Angelina, or is it too on the
>web?
Can't you follow the discussion ?
http://www.francogene.com/genealogie/artistes/angelina-jolie.php
Look for Catherine de Baillon. You will find her ancestry on
my sites including mine.
blueco...@comcast.net
I apologize if my directions on how to find her royal ancestry were
clear as mud.
Catherine de Baillon's royal ancestry can be found here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=wolfordsheppard&id=I035119
The ancestry is based on "Table d'ascendance de Catherine Baillon"
The twelve generations covered in the book + multiple charts from
Charlemagne and the Byzantine emperors, sources and explanations in
French are contained in a 206 page book which can be ordered from SGCF
[ http://www.sgcf.com/baillon.php]
Catherine de Baillon has a number of other famous descendants who can
also be found in the my database, including Canadian Cardinals,
Bishops, Canadian politicians, writer Jack Kerouc, and singers, Celine
Dion (one of the lines was printed in the Catherine de Baillon book)
and Isabelle Boulay (the first four generations of her ancestry was
found on Denis Beauregard's website at
[ http://www.francogene.com/genealogie/arbres.php ]
These individuals can be found using the index:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?includedb=wolfordsheppard
John DuLong's discussion of the Catherine de Baillon project
[including one table from Charlemagne and a table from Theodore
Lascaris] can be found here
[ http://www.habitant.org/baillon/index.htm ]
Diane Wolford Sheppard
>
> > For those who are only interested in her medieval ancestry, from the
> pedigree view, follow Marie Madeleine Miville (who married Nicolas
> Lizot) back to Catherine Baillon. Her line is extended back to
> medieval royalty. The royal ancestry is based on René Jetté, John
> DuLong, R Yves Gagné and Gail Moreau DesHarnais' superbly documented
> book on Catherine de Baillon.
>
> Diane Wolford Sheppard
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> Could you please show us this Royal Ascent of Angelina, or is it too on the
> web?
> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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>
D. Spencer Hines
What we need is the Royal Mediaeval Ascent of Angelina Jolie.
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"Denis Beauregard" <denis.b-at-f...@fr.invalid> wrote in message
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> Le Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:08:38 EST, WJho...@aol.com écrivait dans
> soc.genealogy.medieval:
>
>>Could you please show us this Royal Ascent of Angelina, or is it too on
>>the
>>web?
>
> Can't you follow the discussion ?
>
> http://www.francogene.com/genealogie/artistes/angelina-jolie.php
>
> Look for Catherine de Baillon. You will find her ancestry on
> my [sic] sites including mine.
D. Spencer Hines
Thank you kindly fair maiden and...
Merci Beaucoup.
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D. Spencer Hines
The CORRECT ANSWER to my question is...
"We don't have any PROVEN ascents to Royalty for ANGELINA JOLIE."
"But we are working on it..."
"Any ascent to Royalty we speculate about for Angelina would seem to pass
through CATHERINE BAILLON."
"Here is ONE postulated ascent to CHARLEMAGNE for Catherine Baillon."
"The Most Recent Royal Ancestor is Philippe II Auguste."
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Catherine Baillon
Royal Connection Research Association
Ascending Lineage from Catherine Baillon
to Charlemagne
René Jetté, John P. DuLong, Roland-Yves Gagné, and Gail F. Moreau
The following information comes from a figure we published in the Mémoires,
see the full citation listed at the end of the table. We strongly recommend
that you look at our complete article and the generation-by-generation
proofs we submit.
Ligne ascendante de Catherine Baillon à Charlemagne
1. Catherine Baillon & Jacques Miville dit Deschênes, m 12 novembre
1669 Notre-Dame de Québec
2. Alphonse Baillon, sieur de La Mascotterie, & Louise de Marle, m
vers 1630/1640, région de Chevreuse (Yvelines)
3. Renée Maillard & Adam Baillon, seigneur de Valence, m vers 1580
4. Miles Maillard, seigneur du Breuil et de La Boissière & Marie
Morant, cm 25 juin 1555
5. Bénigne Le Bouteillier, dame de La Boissière & Jacques Maillard,
seigneur de Champaigne, cm 16 avril 1516 Montivilliers (Seine-Maritime)
6. Jean Le Bouteillier, seigneur de La Bouteillerie, de Roquemont,
de Vaux-sur-Orge et de La Boissière & Marie de Venois, m vers 1480/1490
7. Guy II Le Bouteillier, seigneur de La Boiuteillerie et de La
Roche-Guyon & Isabeau Morhier, m vers 1450
8. Catherine de Gavre d'Escornaix, dame de Vaux-sur-Orge et de La
Boissière & Guy I Le Bouteillier, seigneur de La Bouteillerie et de La
Roche-Guyon, m après avril 1419, vers 1425
9. Isabelle de Ghistelles & Arnould VI de Gavre, baron d'Escornaix,
m vers 1380/1390
10. Roger de Ghistelles, seigneur de Dudzeele et de Straten &
Marguerite, dame de Dudzeele, m en ou peu avant 1357
11. Jean IV, seigneur de Ghistelles & Marie de Haverskerke, dame de
Straten, m peu après juin 1337
12. Marguerite de Luxembourg & Jean III, seigneur de Ghistelles, m
1284 avant juin 1289
13. Mathilde de Clèves & Gérard de Luxembourg, seigneur de Durbury,
m 1253
14. Élisabeth de Brabant & Thierry de Clèves, seigneur de
Dinslaken, m 19 mars 1233 Louvain
15. Maire de France & Henri I, duc de Brabant, m 8/22 avril 1213
Soissons
16. Philippe II Auguste, roi de France & Agnès d 'Andechs de
Méranie, m juin 1196
17. Louis VII, roi de France & Adèle de Blois de Champagne, m 18
octobre 1160
18. Louis VI, roi de France & Adélaïde de Savoie, m 1115
19. Philippe I, roi de France & Berthe de Hollande, m 1071/1073
20. Henri I, roi de France & Anne de Russie, m 19 mai 1051 Reims
21. Robert II, roi de France & Constance de Provence, m 1003/1005
22. Hugues Capet, roi de France & Adélaïde N..., m été 968
23. Hugues le Grand, duc de France & Hedwige de Saxe, m 9 mai/14
septembre 938 Mayence ou Ingelheim
24. Béatrice de Vermandois & Robert I, roi de France, m vers 895
25. Héribert I, comte de Vermandois & N...
26. Pépin, comte dans la région de Paris & N...
27. Bernard, roi d'Italie & Cunégonde N..., m vers 815
28. Pépin I, roi d'Italie & N..., m vers 795
29. Charles Ier dit Charlemagne, roi des Francs et empereur
d'Occident & Hildegard N..., m 771
Sources: René Jetté, John P. DuLong, Roland-Yves Gagné, and Gail F.
Moreau. 1997. "De Catherine Baillon à Charlemagne." Mémoires de la
Société généalogique canadienne-française 48 (Autumn): 190-216. Figure 2,
pp. 195-196.
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And, amazing as it seems, the lazy troll Hines found his answer (such
as it is) by himself. Will wonders never cease?
Perhaps Hines would now condescend to explain the weakness in this
line - i.e., why it is only "postulated".
~Bret
> Perhaps Hines would now condescend to explain the weakness in this
> line
le smug auteur?
~Bret, scion of Charle de Magne
http://Back-stabbingAncestralDescendantsASSoc.genealogy.medieval
D. Spencer Hines
PHILIPPE II 'Auguste' [1165-1223] -- Roi de France -- reigned 1180-1223.
Not really all that impressive.
Rob
You're related to Angelina?! Quick, if you can get her relatives who
are close to her and get her email address somehow!
Just kidding. That's pretty cool.
Rob
Taking note of the ancestor of her father, Jon Voight (an actor I
really like). I am curious about his father's name, Elmer Voytka. What
is the origin of that surname? Is it Russian or Slavic?
D. Spencer Hines
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> Taking note of the ancestor of her father, Jon Voight (an actor I
> really like). I am curious about his father's name, Elmer Voytka. What
> is the origin of that surname? Is it Russian or Slavic?
It's Slovak not Hungarian.
D. Spencer Hines
Slovak surname but George Voytka, Angelina's Great-Grandfather was
reportedly born in Kassa, Hungary [now Kosice, Slovakia], 24 April 1879.
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O'Reilly? and she won't even talk to her father. How thrilling
to know her. Rush Limbaugh is 9th cousin on his mother's side.
meep, meep