Comments on RPA
Clagett, Brice
_Plantagenet
Ancestry_, which I will call RPA.
1. RPA page 35 says that Sir Robert Clere was born c. 1453. This has to
be wrong if
I am right that his father, Robert Clere, died on August 2, 1446. RPA
bases its
assertion on a record (unidentified, but probably the ipm of Elizabeth
Clere, mother
of Sir Robert) that Sir Robert was aged 40 in 1493. I do not have the
ipm before me,
but I suspect it says that Sir Roger was then aged 40 years AND MORE.
Even if it
doesn't, "40" is highly likely to be a rounded figure.
2. RPA page 47 says that Sir Roger Aston (d. c. 1447) owned Tixall,
Staffordshire.
I think not. Tixall came to the Astons through the marriage of Sir
Robert's grandson
Sir John Aston to Joan Littleton.
3. RPA page 105 says that Sir Roger Vaughan of Porthaml married (1)
Eleanor
Somerset, daughter of the 2d Earl of Worcester, (2) Joan Whitney. I do
not believe
that Roger of Porthaml was a knight. And since (as Richardson
recognizes) he
died by 1514, he obviously did not marry Eleanor Somerset, whose father
was
married for the first time in that very year. The best account of this
Vaughan family appears
to be that in _Bartrum 1400-1500_ Drymbenog 2(C3).
4. RPA page 245 says that James Fiennes, 1st Lord Saye and Sele, had an
"unidentified first wife" who was mother of his daughter Elizabeth,
wife of
William Cromer. I know of no evidence for such an unidentified first
wife, and
RPA cites none. I do think there is doubt as to whether his wife Emeline
was,
as usually stated, surnamed Cromer; this seems likely to be a confusion
with
daughter Elizabeth's marriage. Edward Rowe Mores, "The History and
Antiquities
of Tunstall in Kent," _Bibliotheca Topographica Britannica_ (1790,
repub. 1968)
vol. 1 p. 27, citing older pedigrees, says that Lord Saye's wife was
Emeline
Walsingham.
5. RPA page 763 calls John de Verdun (who married Eleanor de Bohun) a
knight. Evidence? CP 12:2:246-48 does not say he was a knight, though I
admit it would be peculiar if a man of his prominence was not one.
6. RPA page 119 says that Eleanor de Bohun, wife of the above John de
Verdun,
was a daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 6th Earl of Hereford, by his first
wife,
Maud of Eu. I have not seen evidence indicating which wife of Earl
Humphrey
was Eleanor's mother.
7. RPA page 440 refers to Isenhampstead, Berks. This place is in Bucks,
not
Berks. It is a chapelry, now called Lattimers, in the parish of Chesham.