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Ancestors of LOUIS DU BOIS, American Immigrant
Compiled from "Your Family Tree" by Dr. David Starr Jordan, from B. C. 75
down to about 100 A. D., ending with Eustace I. Standing by itself this
source is regarded as the very best authority, Jordan being a scientist of
great distinction.

Reverend William Twyman Williams, Minister of Hampden-Sydney College,
Hampden-Sydney, Virginia is author of a sketch entitled: "Du Bois,
Seigneurs de la Bourse and de Beaufernez." Dr. Williams, himself a
descendent of Louis Du Bois, has carefully traced the ancestry of Louis Du
Bois back to Eustace I.

"Lineage of Charlemagne," by J. Milton Williams.

Anderson's "Royal Genealogies," edited by Dr. Jordan.

The Bible Genealogy taken from "The Davidson Genealogy," by Elizabeth
Davidson Harbaugh, Ironton, OH, 1948.

(Only relevant names in the above listed lineages have been included in the
index.)

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ANCESTRY OF CHARLEMAGNE THROUGH THE CAESARS
(and the Du Bois Family)

Aeneas, married Creusa
Ascanius, the Trojan, progenitor of the Julii Juli.
Julys, who being deprived of succeeding his father in the Kingdom of Latium
(which Silviud, his father's half brother obtained) was made High Priest,
which office continued in his family, as some think, down to JULIUS CAESAR,
the Dictator, but his descendants are unknown for about 560 years, during
the Latin and Roman kings, till about the reign of TARQUINIUS SUPERBUS, when
we read of one,

Numerius Julius Julus, who asserted his descent from Julus the son of
Ascanius, the son of Aeneas. His son
Lucius Julius Julus, not famous in history, father of,
Caius Julius Julus, was Consul with Pinarius, An. U. C. Varroniano 265,
father of
Caius Julius Julus, Consul with Q. Favius, U.C. 303, father of
Caius Julius Julus, Consul with M. Geganius, U.C. 307, and again with L.
Virginius, 319, and again with Ditto, U.C. 320, father of
Lucius Julius Julus, a Military Tribune with consular authority, U.C. 351,
father of
Lucius Julius Julus, a Military Tribune with consular authority, U.C. 368,
though it
is not clear that he was the son of the last Lucius
Lucius Julius Libo, who had no honors of state, but his son
Lucius Julius Libo, was Consul with Marcus Attilius Regulus U.C. 487. His
son or grandson is supposed to be
Nurmerius Julius CAESAR, the first of the Caesars, the name of Julus being
henceforward omitted for that of Caesar, his son
Lucius Julius CAESAR, whose name is only recorded, father of
Sextus Julius CAESAR, a Military Tirbune under Lucius Aemilius Paulus,
Proconsul in Liguria, U.C. 573. His son
Sextys Julius CAESAR, the Roman Ambassador with Sempronius Bloesus, for
restoring liverty to the people of Abdera, U.C. 584, and the Consul with L.
Aurelius Orestes, U.C. 597, father of
Lucius Julius CAESAR, lived without state honors, father of Caius, Julius
Caesar, called Strabo, a courteous and witty orator often mentioned by
Cicero, and another son was
Lucius Julius CAESAR, who was Consul with Rutilius Lupus, U.C. 664, during
the Social War. He was the author of the Julian Law. He was a Censo with
Pub. Licinius Crassus, U.C. 665, and had
Julia, married Mark Anthony 2nd, son of the eloquent orator Mark anthony
1st, born B.C. 143, died B. C. 87, son of Gaius Antonius, died B.C. 68.
Their son was
Mark ANTHONY 3rd, born B.C. 83, died B.C. 30. Defeated at the battle of
Actium he

page 68

fled into Egypt with Cleopatra where both committed suicide. He had four
wives; Antonia, Fulvia, Octavis Major and Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt. His
daughter by his third wife, Octavia Major, was
Antonia MINOR, born B.C. 38, died B.C. 9, married Caludius Drusus Nero
Germanicus (son-in-law of Augustus Caesar, and the brother of the Emperor
Tiberius) She was an excellent woman and was mother of
CLAUDIUS, the Emperor. He was great uncle and stepfather to Nero. His
daughter
VENISSA m. Arviragus, eleventh son of Kimneline, King of the Britons.
Succeeded his brother A.D. 44, died A.D. 74.
MARIUS succeeded his father A.C. 74, is said to have erected a stone upon
Stanmere in memory of a victory over the Picts. His wife, name unknown, was
the daughter of Boadicea, Queen of the Icenians. He died A.D. 125. Son
COLIUS I, "Old King Cole" became King of Britain A.D. 125, died A.D. 170.
He was educated in Rome where he attained much knowledge and the affection
of the Romans. Is said to have built Colchester (Coel-Castra)
Athildis, married A.D. 129 Morcomir, King of Franconia, who died in 149
Clodomir IV, King of the Franks, died 166 after a reign of 17 years. He
married Hasilda, daughter of King of Rugij.
King Farabut, reigned two years, died 186.
King Sunno, reigned 28 years, died 213.
King Hilderic built Hildeburg Castle on an Island in the Rhine. Reigned 40
years, died 253.
King Bartherus, reigned 19 years and died in 272.
King Clodius III, reigned 27 years, died 298.
King Walter, Reigned 8 years, died 306.
King Dagobert, a kind and loving Prince, reigned 11 years, died 317.
Genebald I, Duke of the East Franks, reigned 30 years, died 350.
King Clodius I, reigned 10 years, died 389.
King Marcomir, Duke of the East Franks, reigned 15 year, died 404.
King Pharamond, Duke of the East Franks, elected 419 Duke of the West
Franks, King of Westphalia, died 430, married Argotta, "the mother of all
the Kings of France." She was a daughter of Genebald, the last Duke of the
West Franks.
King Clodio, called the "Long Haired," King of Westphalia, died 455, married
Basina, daughter of Weldelphus, King of the Thuringians.
Merovee (Merovaeus,) repelled Attila, King of the Huns and conquered
Piccardy, Normandy and the coast of France. Died 458, married Verica.
Childeric I, King of the Franks, born 436, extended his kingdom on the
Rhine, died 481, married 465 Basina, daughter of Thuringen.

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Clovis, born 465, first King of all the Franks, succeeded his father at the
age of 15. His capital was first atRheims and later at Paris. He died 511,
married Clothilde of Burgundy, born 475, died 545 at Tours. It was thru her
influence that he embraced Christianity and with 3,000 of his followers was
baptized at Rheims on Christmas Day in 496.
Clothaire, King of Soissons, died 565, married Ingonde.
Blitheledes, married Ausbert of Mosell. She was the daughter of the above
Clothaire, 1st King of France.
Arnolph, Margrave of the Schelde married Oda a Suabian lady. After her
death he became a monk and entered the monastry of St. Martin in Villa
Longs, which he had built, became Bishop of Metz and died in 601.
St. Armolph married Dodo a Saxon Lady and after her death he became Bishop
of Metz.
Anchises, Margrave of the Schelde, married Begga of Brabant, daughter of
Pepin I and in her right became Duke of Brabant. Died 698.
Pepin d'Heristal, Mayor of the Palace, died 714.
Charles Martel, the Hammer, Mayor of the Palace, King of France, born 688,
died 10-22-741, married Rotrude who died 724.
Pepin the Short, King of France, born 714, died 9-24-768, married Lady
Bertha, daughter of Charibert of Laon. She died 783.
CHARLEMAGNE, King of the Franks and Emperor of the West, (742-814) married
Lady Hildegarde of Swabia.
Louis I, of France (778-840) married Judith, the Fair of Bavaria.
Charles II of France (843-878) married 1st: Hermentrudis, daughter of Odo,
Count of Orleans ( -869).
Louis II, King of France (844-879) married Adelheida.
Charles III, King of France (879-929) married Edgina, daughter of Edward I,
the Elder, King of England.
Louis IV, King of France (920-954) married Princess Gerberga, daughter of
Henry I of Germany.
Charles, Duke of Nether Lorraine (953-994) married Bonne, Countess de
Arderne, daughter of Duke of Moselle.
Princess Gerberga, Countess of Lorraine married Lambert I, Count of Mone,
died 1015.
Eustace I, Seigneur and Baron de Fiennes, married Adele De Fumes, Dame de
Andres.
Conon, Seingeur and Baron de Fiennes (1099-1112) married Alix de
Bournonville.
Eustace II, Singeur & Baron de Fiennes.
Enguerrand I, Seigneur & Baron de Fiennes, died on Crusade, 1207 married
Sibylle de Tyngrie, descended from Guillaume Cound de Boui8llen, youngest
brother of Godfrey de Bouillon, first Crusader King of Jerusalem.
Guillaume (William), Seigneur & Baron de Fiennes, Baron de Tyngrie 1233,
married Agness de Damartin.
Enguerrand II, Seigneur & Baron de Fiennes, Baron de Tyngrie ( -1265)
married a de Conde.
Robert L., Seigneur de Bouchin, Younger married Claude Dame Du Bois.
Henry I, do Bois de Fiennes, FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME OF DU BOIS, Signeur de
Heuchin & d'Esquerdes, married Marie de St. Venant.

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Henry II du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Heuchin & des Querdes married
Jacquelin de Beaufremont.
Sorier du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Heuchin & des Querdes married Marie
de Azincourt.
Jean I, du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Heuchin & des Querdes & Baron
d'Eanes married Heanne de Lens, Dame de Annequin; both of Royal descent, as
were the wives of six preceding Seingneurs de Fiennes.
Baudouin du Bois de Fiennes, younger son, Segneur de Boyeffles, 1399 married
Dame de Montignies.
Nathieudu Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Boyeffles, Treboult, La Bourse & de
Aix, in part, called Le "Gallois." married Tasse de Sains who was a widow
in 1474 when she held fief of the Castle of Hesdin.
(?) Laurent du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de la Bourge married ________,
daughter Jeanne was the second wife of her cousin Jean III du Bois de
Fiennes, Seignour de Heuchin, d'Esquerdes, de Vermelles, d'Annequin, de
Raincheval, de Noyelles, Baron D'Esnes, whom she married in 1480.
(?) du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Gerfontaine, La Pontus du Bois de
Fiennes, Seigneur de la Bourse.
Pontus du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Gerfontaine, La Crox 7 la Bourse
married Phillipotte de Landas.
Wallerand Du Bois de Fiennes, Seigneur de Beaufermez, La Bourse, La Croix &
Gerfontaine married 1583 Magdeleine De Croix.
Chretien du Bois de Fiennes, dead by 1655 when he was mentioned as desceased
in the marriage record of his son Louis Du Bois, born at Wicres, Oct. 1626;
died June 1695 at New Platz, N.Y. married in Manheim Germany, October 10,
1655 Caterinen Blanchan. They emigrated to America.

Would you also like the "BIBLICAL ANCESTRY OF THE DU BOIS FAMILY ?"


Stewart Baldwin

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"CompuGran" <comp...@ctaz.com> wrote:

>Ancestors of LOUIS DU BOIS, American Immigrant
>Compiled from "Your Family Tree" by Dr. David Starr Jordan, from B. C. 75
>down to about 100 A. D., ending with Eustace I. Standing by itself this
>source is regarded as the very best authority, Jordan being a scientist of
>great distinction.

[long genealogy deleted]

On the contrary, David Starr Jordan's "Your Family Tree" is one of the
very worst sources which you could possibly use to "document" a
genealogy. (Being a good scientist does not necessarily make one a
good genealogist.) Much of the genealogy which you posted from this
source is pure fiction.

Stewart Baldwin

D. Spencer Hines

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1. Sacre bleu! Stewart Baldwin doesn't tell us who David Starr Jordan was!
The Professorial Protection Brigade (PPB) [this is the generic ["World
Federalist"] organization of which the GLLB is a mere local chapter] is at
work again. These folks don't want you to have the whole story.

2. David Starr Jordan [1851-1931] was not merely a "scientist of great
distinction" or a "good scientist." He had a medical degree [Indiana
Medical College, 1875] and chaired the natural science department at Indiana
University. In 1885 he became president of Indiana University. He was a
"naturalist" and a "philosopher" --- sometimes described as a "biologist" or
"botanist." His only real contribution to science was a book entitled
"Manual of the Vertebrates of the Northern U.S." [1876], written when Jordan
was 24 years old.

3. But, at heart, he was yet another academic crackpot. He was an advocate
of Nordic superiority. He opposed U.S. participation in World War I and was
a dyed-in-the wool pacifist. He was a stentorian advocate of "World
Federalism" at the expense of American sovereignty. Yes, Jordan was
strongly infected with the sort of crackpot internationalism that goes by
the shorthand moniker of "Wilsonianism" or "European Federation" --- in
1997.

4. Wayne Cohen, who hangs out in soc.history.medieval, recently pointed out
to us that his GrandFather, a Russian Menshevik, had deep suspicions of this
kind of airy-fairy Wilsonian wool-gathering, and he was correct.

It is the kind of thinking that when confronted with a practical issue ---
such as --- which harnesses and other fittings tend to choke a horse and
which do not --- would never think of actually running controlled,
practical, scientific experiments [closely monitored by horselovers and the
SPCA] on horses in order to generate hard data.

Instead this sort of in-grown, convoluted, naive and parochial mind tends to
try to find yet another moss-covered "book" or "mosaic" or "tapestry" or
"sculpture" to bury his nose in --- to the exclusion of the real, sometimes
messy and dangerous world of flesh-and-bone horses.

Such folks do not pay much attention to real flesh-and-blood people either,
particularly those who dare to disagree with them. They are dismissed as
*pig ignorant* "natives" and annoying "noise levels" by the academic
wool-gatherers, a la Woodrow Wilson --- proven by his contempt for the U.S.
Senate, and its leaders.

4. David Starr Jordan was the first president of Stanford University
[1891-1913] and was a total and vintage flake in that role. In short, the
"troubles at Stanford," that continue to this day --- began in the
disastrous reign of David Starr Jordan.

5. Jordan was yet another Academician, without much practical understanding
of the world --- book bound to a fault --- who tried to poach in fields
outside his competence --- and came a cropper.
--

D. Spencer Hines --- Leo Tolstoy On Firmly Held Beliefs and Resultant Mental
Gridlock ---

"I know that most men --- not only those considered clever, but even those
who really are clever and capable of understanding the most difficult
scientific, mathematical or philosophic problems, can seldom discern even
the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as obliges them to admit
the falsity of conclusions they have formed, perhaps with great
difficulty --- conclusions of which they are proud, which they have taught
to others, and on which they have built their lives."

Leo Tolstoy [1896] --- Source: "What Is Art?" --- Leo Tolstoy, Translated
by Aylmer Maude, in Tolstoy's Collected Works, Charles Scribner's Sons,
(1902), Volume 19, p. 468

Stewart Baldwin wrote in message <68ts91$299$1...@news.campus.mci.net>...


>"CompuGran" <comp...@ctaz.com> wrote:
>
>>Ancestors of LOUIS DU BOIS, American Immigrant
>>Compiled from "Your Family Tree" by Dr. David Starr Jordan, from B. C.
75
>>down to about 100 A. D., ending with Eustace I. Standing by itself this
>>source is regarded as the very best authority, Jordan being a scientist of
>>great distinction.
>

Kate

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In article <68tvj9$b...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "D. Spencer Hines" <shi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>1. Sacre bleu! Stewart Baldwin doesn't tell us who David Starr Jordan was!

<mega snip of totally irrelevent crosspost to soc.history.medieval>

Please trim soc.history.medieval from followups as we are currently being
inundated with several of these lengthy off charter posts and they are quite
annoying.

Thanks,

Kate

D. Spencer Hines

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As are you, my dear.

Don't get your vitals in an uproar. Perhaps a little elderberry wine for
thy stomach's sake?

--

D. Spencer Hines --- Leo Tolstoy On Firmly Held Beliefs and Resultant Mental
Gridlock ---

"I know that most men --- not only those considered clever, but even those
who really are clever and capable of understanding the most difficult
scientific, mathematical or philosophic problems, can seldom discern even
the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as obliges them to admit
the falsity of conclusions they have formed, perhaps with great
difficulty --- conclusions of which they are proud, which they have taught
to others, and on which they have built their lives."

Leo Tolstoy [1896] --- Source: "What Is Art?" --- Leo Tolstoy, Translated
by Aylmer Maude, in Tolstoy's Collected Works, Charles Scribner's Sons,
(1902), Volume 19, p. 468

Kate wrote in message <68u3r7$934$2...@hirame.wwa.com>...

MrSandmich

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I didn't know that this was soc.genealogy.biography. He was just making a point
as to the trustworthiness of Jordan's work "Your Family Tree". These types of
critical remarks are totally unwarrented. Stay on topic! Reading trash like
this is really painful, and it makes me want to puke! This is just another lame
attempt at pumping yourself up to appear smarter and more clever than you
really are. Masked insecurity? It would appear so. By the way, lose the quotes.
You're not fooling anyone. You're not witty. You're just a compuloser with too
much time on your hands.

Todd A. Johnson

D. Spencer Hines

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1. By the numbers ------- 1------2 ------3 ------ Puke Away! [Downwind!]

2. Now, doesn't that feel better?

3. Repeat daily for best effects. [You will be billed separately.]
--

D. Spencer Hines --- Leo Tolstoy On Firmly Held Beliefs and Resultant Mental
Gridlock ---

"I know that most men --- not only those considered clever, but even those
who really are clever and capable of understanding the most difficult
scientific, mathematical or philosophic problems, can seldom discern even
the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as obliges them to admit
the falsity of conclusions they have formed, perhaps with great
difficulty --- conclusions of which they are proud, which they have taught
to others, and on which they have built their lives."

Leo Tolstoy [1896] --- Source: "What Is Art?" --- Leo Tolstoy, Translated
by Aylmer Maude, in Tolstoy's Collected Works, Charles Scribner's Sons,
(1902), Volume 19, p. 468

MrSandmich wrote in message
<19980106232...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...

>I didn't know that this was soc.genealogy.biography. He was just making a
point
>as to the trustworthiness of Jordan's work "Your Family Tree". These types
of

>critical remarks are totally unwarrented. [sic--- DSH] Stay on topic!

Judith Sanders

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My Mother came from Metamora, Illinois, in Woodford County,
where one can't swing a cat without hitting a DuBois. I, for one,
would very much like to know more about any immigrant DuBois,
their ancestry and descendants. Website referrals, anyone?

Also, what is the real deal with this Venissa/Genuissa
daughter of Emperor Claudius who is supposed to have been
married to a ridge-running British barbarian? I've run into this
tale several times, always in fringey texts, and am inclined to
discount the whole thing. So, what is the original text which
mentions this marriage? How about Athildis, where is she first
mentioned?
cheers, Judith Sanders
(for the finest in pedigreed ferrets, contact me!
At stud in '98: Ragnar, Mongo, Enfield)

Denis Beauregard

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Jan 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/7/98
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what is quite strange is when someone add 3 lines in a reply
in a thread, and the message has 43 lines while the message
replied to has 10 lines...

Denis


"D. Spencer Hines" <shi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

"D. Spencer Hines" <shi...@worldnet.att.net> écrivait:

>1. By the numbers ------- 1------2 ------3 ------ Puke Away! [Downwind!]
>
>2. Now, doesn't that feel better?
>
>3. Repeat daily for best effects. [You will be billed separately.]

--
Denis Beauregard, genealogiste
Partage de donnees? http://www.cam.org/~beaur/francogene/index.html
Sharing data? http://www.cam.org/~beaur/francogene/welcome.html
Genealogiste professionnel disponible/Genealogical searcher for hire

Chris Pitt-Lewis

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In article <68ujhc$49r$1...@winter.news.erols.com>, Judith Sanders
<ste...@erols.com> writes
Don't know about Athildis, but Genuissa daughter of Claudius and wife of
Arviragus is from Geoffrey of Monmouth IV, 14/15. She is just as
fictitious as the account in the same chapters of how Arviragus helped
Claudius conquer the Orkneys, founded Gloucester and was left as King of
Britain by Claudius when he returned to Rome.
--
Chris Pitt-Lewis

rwje...@hctc.net

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On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:50:36 -0500, "Judith Sanders" <ste...@erols.com>
wrote:

>I, for one,
>would very much like to know more about any immigrant DuBois,
>their ancestry and descendants. Website referrals, anyone?
>

Try the du Bois Family Association, in New Paltz, New York. They have
published a phenomenal multi-volume genealogy of the descendants of
Chretien du Bois, of Wicres, Artois, and his son Louis, who married
Catherine Blanchan, and came to NY.

Most big genealogy libraries should have it, either in bound volumes
or on microfiche / film.

Robert Jewell

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