Descent of Neil Patrick Harris from William Farrar

[Darrel Hockley]

Hello Sarah,
Here is the line of descent of Neil Patrick Harris from the Gateway Ancestor William Farrar of Virginia:
1.    William Farrar I (1583 to 1636) married Cicely (maiden name unknown)
2.    William Farrar II (1626 to 1676) married Mary Baugh (ca. 1634 to ?)
3.    William Farrar III (ca.1657 to 1721) married Priscilla Baugh (1664 to 1706), a cousin
4.    William Farrar IV (ca.1687 to ca.1744) married Sarah Farrar (ca.1693 to ?), a first cousin
5.    Richard Farrar Sr. (1727 to ca.1780) married Elizabeth Sanders (ca.1730 to ?)
6.    Richard Farrar Jr. (ca.1750 to ca.1792) married Phoebe Young
7.    John Sanders Farrar (1774 to after 1820) married Dorcas Barnett (1778 to after 1870)
8.    James Wade Farrar (1806 to 1894) married Susan Jane Reaves (1811 to 1889)
9.    Susan Jane Farrar (1851 to 1919) married James Stutley Parker (1851 to 1903)
10.    Alice Parker (1873 to 1953) married Marcus Houston "Marc" Smith (1868 to 1941)
11.    Gertrude Vashti Smith (1896 to 1990) married George Thomas Harris Sr. (1894 to 1972)
12.    George Thomas Harris Jr. (1922 to 1985) married Martha Jeanne Henry (1922 to 2014)
13.    Ronald Gene Harris (born 1946) married Sheila Gail Scott (born 1946)
14.    NEIL PATRICK HARRIS (born 1973) married David Michael Burtka (born 1975)
Darrel Hockley

[Olivier]

Edward III of Windsor, King of England 1312-1377 &1329
Philippa d'Avesnes 1314-1369
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Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence 1338-1368 &1342
Elizabeth de Burgh 1332-1363
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Philippa Plantagenêt 1355-1382 &ca 1368
Edmund Mortimer, Earl of March 1352-1381
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Elizabeth Mortimer 1371-1417 &
Henry Percy 1364-1403
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Elizabeth Percy 1395-1437 &ca 1410
John Clifford, Lord de Clifford 1388-1422
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Mary Clifford 1420-1458 &
Philip Wentworth 1424-1464
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Elizabeth Wentworth +1492 &
Martin at See ca 1420-1494
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Elizabeth at See &
Roger Kelke +1494/
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Christopher Kelke +1523 &
Isabel Girlington
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William Kelke +1552 &
? ?
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Cecily Kelke 1552-1628 &
John Farrar 1548-1628
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William Farrar 1583-1637 &1625
Cecily Reynolds 1601-1660
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William Farrar 1626-1676 &
Mary Baugh
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William Farrar 1657 &
Priscilla Baugh
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William Farrar &
Sarah Farrar
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Richard Farrar 1727 &
Elizabeth Sanders
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Richard Farrar &
Phoebe Young
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John Sanders Farrar 1774 &
Dorcas Barnett 1778
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James Wade Farrar 1806-1894 &
Susan Jane Reaves 1811-1889
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Susan Jane Farrar 1851-1919 &
James Stutley Parker 1851-1903
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Alice Parker 1873-1953 &
Marcus Houston Smith 1868-1941
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Gertrude Vashti Smith 1896-1990 &
George Thomas Harris 1894-1972
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George Thomas Harris 1922-1985 &
Martha Jeanne Henry 1922-2014
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Ronald Gene Harris 1946- &
Sheila Gail Scott 1946-
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Neil Patrick Harris 1973-

[D. Spencer Hines]

So, will the line end here?

DSH
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"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963

"Darrel Hockley" wrote in message
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[joe...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 7:32:30 PM UTC-5, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> So, will the line end here?
>

I know you are trolling as usual, but, um..no, he already has a child.

[wjhonson]

Some of your years are not based on any credible record

Christopher Kelke did not die in 1523 but rather 2 Feb 1523/4

Isabel Girlington's death is known
her Will dated 18 Dec 1559, proved (Cpc) 1 Feb 1559/60

[wjhonson]

Proved (PCC 11 Mellershe) 1 Feb 1559/60
This citation per P.A. "Kelke"

https://books.google.com/books?id=kjme027UeagC&pg=RA1-PA299

[wjhonson]

The wife of William Kelke is known

Her name was Thomasine Skerne, co-heiress of Percival, fishmonger and his wife Joan

William died in Jun 1552 and her wife later.
I have a question about this claim that in Aug 1566 Jeffrey Ducket was appointed administrator during the minority of the two daughters they left.

How old would a unmarried girl need to be to be in her majority in 1566 ?
Can I assume that both girls were under 18 ? under 21? or some other age?

[D. Spencer Hines]

There's More:
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"Personal life
Harris with his husband David Burtka at his ceremony to receive a star on
the Hollywood Walk of Fame on September 15, 2011

Harris confirmed that he is gay on November 4, 2006, by saying, "I am happy
to dispel any rumors or misconceptions and am quite proud to say that I am a
very content gay man living my life to the fullest and feel most fortunate
to be working with wonderful people in the business I love."[44]

Harris attended the Emmy Awards in September 2007 with his fiancé David
Burtka, later confirming the relationship. In an interview on The Ellen
DeGeneres Show,[45] Harris said his relationship with Burtka began in 2004.
On August 14, 2010, Harris announced that he and Burtka were expecting twins
via a surrogate mother.[46][47] Their son, Gideon Scott, and daughter,
Harper Grace, were born in October 2010.[48][49]

Following the passage of the Marriage Equality Act in New York on June 24,
2011, Harris and Burtka announced their engagement via Twitter,[50] stating
that they had proposed to each other five years earlier but kept the
engagement secret until same-sex marriage became legal.[51] On September 8,
2014, Harris announced on his Twitter page that David Burtka and he were
married over the weekend in Italy.[52][53][54][55] Pamela Fryman, the
long-time director of How I Met Your Mother, officiated the wedding while
Elton John performed at the reception.[56][57][58]

Harris and Burtka bought a townhouse on Fifth Avenue in Harlem in 2013, the
Upper Manhattan, New York City neighborhood where they had been living for
many years previously.[59]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Patrick_Harris
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So, the twins were born via a surrogate mother -- and the father is not
clearly identified.

Ergo, the genealogical line from William Farrar of Virginia, Gateway
Ancestor, may indeed end with Neil.

DSH

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and
conscientious stupidity."

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Strength to Love - Jan 1963

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message news:o6bfvn$2ah$1...@dont-email.me...

[joe...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> There's More:

> ----------------------------------------
>
> So, the twins were born via a surrogate mother -- and the father is not
> clearly identified.
>
> Ergo, the genealogical line from William Farrar of Virginia, Gateway
> Ancestor, may indeed end with Neil.

Ergo nothing. The article doesn't clearly identify who won the Battle of Waterloo either, but that doesn't change who rules China.

One of the children is the biological descendant of Neil, and one is the biological descendant of his husband. It really isn't that complicated.
Joe C

[D. Spencer Hines]

The Waters Are Indeed Murky as to whether the line from William Farrar,
GARD, continues:

This article throws a little more fat on the fire -- but no convincing
conclusion as to proven parentage of the twins:
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"The twins, now 4 years old, were born via surrogate.

"It's a lot harder for gay guys [to have kids], although we tried!" Burtka
joked to Wendy Williams, going on to explain that there were "two different
women involved. There was an egg donor, a wonderful woman who was anonymous.
We took two of our best guys and implanted them into her eggs, two different
eggs." And then, of course, there was the surrogate who carried the babies
to term, giving birth to Gideon and Harper in October 2010."

http://celebritybabies.people.com/2015/05/07/david-burtka-kids-neil-patrick-harris-which-one-biologically-his-wendy-williams/

DSH
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[joe...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 4:36:39 PM UTC-5, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
> The Waters Are Indeed Murky as to whether the line from William Farrar,
> GARD, continues:
>
> This article throws a little more fat on the fire -- but no convincing
> conclusion as to proven parentage of the twins:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "The twins, now 4 years old, were born via surrogate.
>
> "It's a lot harder for gay guys [to have kids], although we tried!" Burtka
> joked to Wendy Williams, going on to explain that there were "two different
> women involved. There was an egg donor, a wonderful woman who was anonymous.
> We took two of our best guys and implanted them into her eggs, two different
> eggs." And then, of course, there was the surrogate who carried the babies
> to term, giving birth to Gideon and Harper in October 2010."
>
> http://celebritybabies.people.com/2015/05/07/david-burtka-kids-neil-patrick-harris-which-one-biologically-his-wendy-williams/

What possible more proof would you want besides hearing about the actual sperm that fertilized the egg. This is 100X more proof than any child of a marriage has.

[D. Spencer Hines]

"Neil Patrick Harris has "no interest" in finding out if he is his twins'
biological father."

But of course Gideon and Harper will.

DSH
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BANG Showbiz
Published Monday, December 15, 2014 12:03PM EST

Neil Patrick Harris has "no interest" in finding out if he is his twins'
biological father.

The 'How I Met Your Mother' actor and his husband David Burtka welcomed
twins Gideon and Harper into the world via a surrogate in October 2010 but
they don't care which of them has genetic links to each of the kids.

He said: "We inserted one of my sperm and one of David's sperm into two eggs
with the hope that they would both take, just because we both wanted to be
dads biologically. And both took, miraculously.

"I have no interest in [finding out]. We are their parents and I love them
both implicitly."

However, Harris admitted he has "suspicions" as to which of the twins is
biologically his and which is Burtka's.

He said: "We certainly have suspicions just based on their behaviour."

The 41-year-old actor came out as gay in 2006 and admitted his parents were
initially worried his sexuality "meant bad things".

He added to Barbara Walters: "[My father] comes from a military, more
biblical background.

"They were worried that it meant bad things, that I was going to be in sex
clubs risking my health and having a ton of partners. It didn't take long
for me to prove to them that I'm not that way."

However, he admitted his father has since "done a 180" and accepts his
sexuality and marriage.

He added: "He treats David just like he would any spouse."

http://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/neil-patrick-harris-not-interested-in-identity-of-twins-biological-father-1.2148390
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DSH

[ms.t...@gmail.com]

Olivier,

Can you provide a source for the generations after John Farrar? In particular I can't find any reference to Mary Crawford and Martin de la See.

Lori