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Kevan Barton via
Dec 15, 2015, 1:02:41 AM12/15/15
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Folks,
I've been going through "Records of the Family of Urswyk, Urswick, or
Urwick" by Thomas Urwick. It can be found at the Internet Archive via the
following URL.
https://archive.org/stream/recordsfamilyur01urwigoog#page/n191/mode/2up
It can be rather confusing, and a bit inconsistent in places.
Anyway, can anyone identify for me a William Harrington that died at
Agincourt (yr 1415)? He had married a Margaret de Hornby (daughter of
William de Hornby), who at his death married in succession Robert Urswick,
Richard de Kighley, and Alexander de Leeds.
There appear to be two voices in the book, 1) the original draftsman, and 2)
an editor who puts in contradictory footnotes.
One footnote claims this Margaret to be Margaret de Neville (de Hornby)!
But I have it that her husband, William Harrington died in 1440. And, if
this is the only Margaret Neville (Hornby)/William Harrington match, it
cannot work chronologically if this William Harrington dies in 1440.
Anyway, wanting to kick this point clean or out of consideration. See page
166 of the above book for the claim.
Personally, I think it's bunk. Sure, Robert Urswick married Margaret de
Hornby, but to confuse her with a Neville might be stretching it a bit.
There is indeed a Hornby family in the area of the time, but I know little
to nothing about them.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Kevan
I've been going through "Records of the Family of Urswyk, Urswick, or
Urwick" by Thomas Urwick. It can be found at the Internet Archive via the
following URL.
https://archive.org/stream/recordsfamilyur01urwigoog#page/n191/mode/2up
It can be rather confusing, and a bit inconsistent in places.
Anyway, can anyone identify for me a William Harrington that died at
Agincourt (yr 1415)? He had married a Margaret de Hornby (daughter of
William de Hornby), who at his death married in succession Robert Urswick,
Richard de Kighley, and Alexander de Leeds.
There appear to be two voices in the book, 1) the original draftsman, and 2)
an editor who puts in contradictory footnotes.
One footnote claims this Margaret to be Margaret de Neville (de Hornby)!
But I have it that her husband, William Harrington died in 1440. And, if
this is the only Margaret Neville (Hornby)/William Harrington match, it
cannot work chronologically if this William Harrington dies in 1440.
Anyway, wanting to kick this point clean or out of consideration. See page
166 of the above book for the claim.
Personally, I think it's bunk. Sure, Robert Urswick married Margaret de
Hornby, but to confuse her with a Neville might be stretching it a bit.
There is indeed a Hornby family in the area of the time, but I know little
to nothing about them.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Kevan
johnmw...@gmail.com
Dec 15, 2015, 6:22:43 AM12/15/15
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Dear Kevan,
The "Records of the Family of Urswyk ... " is not to be trusted.
Robert Urswick, eldest son of Sir Robert Urswick and his first wife, Margaret de Southworth was born about 1365. He married Margaret, only daughter and heiress of William de Hornby (died before 1371) and his wife Olive de Kirketon of Aisthorpe, Lincolnshire (died about 1384). Olive de Kirketon married secondly William Sallay of York.
Margaret appears in the following fine concerning the manor of Aisthorpe, presumably before she married Robert Urswick:
24 April 1384, Westminster. Two weeks from Easter, 7 Richard [II]. Parties: Margaret, daughter of William, son of Robert de Horneby, querent, and William de Horneby, the parson of the church of St Michael sup[er] Wyre, and John de Horneby, the parson of the church of Tatham, deforciants. Property: The manor of Asthorp' in the county of Lincoln and 2 bovates [and] 17 acres of land and 7 acres of meadow in Bentlay by Doncastre and Parua Smetheton' in the county of York. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: William and John have granted to Margaret the manor and tenements and have rendered them to her in the same court, to hold to Margaret and the heirs of her body, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to Robert, son of William de Sallay and of Olive, formerly the wife of the same William, and the heirs of his body. In default of such heirs, a moiety of the manor and tenements shall remain to Katherine, sister of the same Robert, son of William, and the heirs of her body, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders (1) to Ellen, sister of the same Katherine, and the heirs of her body and (2) to the right heirs of the aforesaid Olive. And the other moiety of the manor and tenements shall remain to the aforesaid Ellen and her aforesaid heirs, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders (1) to the aforesaid Katherine and her aforesaid heirs and (2) to the right heirs of the aforesaid Olive. For this: Margaret has given them 100 pounds sterling.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/289/53, number 99.
She was married to Robert Urswick before the date of this fine:
13 October 1387, Westminster. Two weeks from St Michael, 11 Richard [II] [13 October 1387]. Parties: Roger Dunnyng' of Skarthyngwelle and Agnes, his wife, querents, and John de Toueton', chaplain, John de Brerelay of Saxton' and Frank (Francus) Dunnyng', chaplain, deforciants. Property: 24 acres of land in Saxton', Barston' and Skarthyngwell'. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: Roger and Agnes have acknowledged the land to be the right of John de Toueton', as that which the same John, John de Brerelay and Frank have of their gift. For this: John, John and Frank have granted to Roger and Agnes the land and have rendered it to them in the same court, to hold to Roger and Agnes, of the chief lords for the lives of Roger and Agnes. And after the decease of Roger and Agnes the land shall remain to Robert, son of Robert de Ursewyk', knight (militis), and Margaret, his wife, daughter of William de Horneby, and the heirs of their bodies, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to the right heirs of Robert.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/278/144, number 36.
Margaret Hornby died s.p. in or before 1409 when the heir of her mother's manor of Aisthorpe was Robert Sallay the son of her mother's second marriage. So Margaret certainly didn't marry anyone else. Robert Urswick the younger was apparently knighted shortly before his death. His writ of diem clausit extremum is dated 12 October 1420. He died s.p. His heirs were either his full sisters or their descendants, except for a moiety of the manor of Badswoth in Yorkshire, which his father had apparently entailed on his male descendants, which went to his half brother Thomas Urswick, the son of his father's second marriage to Ellen Radcliffe.
Hope that this points you in the right direction.
Regards,
John
The "Records of the Family of Urswyk ... " is not to be trusted.
Robert Urswick, eldest son of Sir Robert Urswick and his first wife, Margaret de Southworth was born about 1365. He married Margaret, only daughter and heiress of William de Hornby (died before 1371) and his wife Olive de Kirketon of Aisthorpe, Lincolnshire (died about 1384). Olive de Kirketon married secondly William Sallay of York.
Margaret appears in the following fine concerning the manor of Aisthorpe, presumably before she married Robert Urswick:
24 April 1384, Westminster. Two weeks from Easter, 7 Richard [II]. Parties: Margaret, daughter of William, son of Robert de Horneby, querent, and William de Horneby, the parson of the church of St Michael sup[er] Wyre, and John de Horneby, the parson of the church of Tatham, deforciants. Property: The manor of Asthorp' in the county of Lincoln and 2 bovates [and] 17 acres of land and 7 acres of meadow in Bentlay by Doncastre and Parua Smetheton' in the county of York. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: William and John have granted to Margaret the manor and tenements and have rendered them to her in the same court, to hold to Margaret and the heirs of her body, of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to Robert, son of William de Sallay and of Olive, formerly the wife of the same William, and the heirs of his body. In default of such heirs, a moiety of the manor and tenements shall remain to Katherine, sister of the same Robert, son of William, and the heirs of her body, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders (1) to Ellen, sister of the same Katherine, and the heirs of her body and (2) to the right heirs of the aforesaid Olive. And the other moiety of the manor and tenements shall remain to the aforesaid Ellen and her aforesaid heirs, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, successive remainders (1) to the aforesaid Katherine and her aforesaid heirs and (2) to the right heirs of the aforesaid Olive. For this: Margaret has given them 100 pounds sterling.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/289/53, number 99.
She was married to Robert Urswick before the date of this fine:
13 October 1387, Westminster. Two weeks from St Michael, 11 Richard [II] [13 October 1387]. Parties: Roger Dunnyng' of Skarthyngwelle and Agnes, his wife, querents, and John de Toueton', chaplain, John de Brerelay of Saxton' and Frank (Francus) Dunnyng', chaplain, deforciants. Property: 24 acres of land in Saxton', Barston' and Skarthyngwell'. Action: Plea of covenant. Agreement: Roger and Agnes have acknowledged the land to be the right of John de Toueton', as that which the same John, John de Brerelay and Frank have of their gift. For this: John, John and Frank have granted to Roger and Agnes the land and have rendered it to them in the same court, to hold to Roger and Agnes, of the chief lords for the lives of Roger and Agnes. And after the decease of Roger and Agnes the land shall remain to Robert, son of Robert de Ursewyk', knight (militis), and Margaret, his wife, daughter of William de Horneby, and the heirs of their bodies, to hold of the chief lords for ever. In default of such heirs, remainder to the right heirs of Robert.
Feet of Fines: CP 25/1/278/144, number 36.
Margaret Hornby died s.p. in or before 1409 when the heir of her mother's manor of Aisthorpe was Robert Sallay the son of her mother's second marriage. So Margaret certainly didn't marry anyone else. Robert Urswick the younger was apparently knighted shortly before his death. His writ of diem clausit extremum is dated 12 October 1420. He died s.p. His heirs were either his full sisters or their descendants, except for a moiety of the manor of Badswoth in Yorkshire, which his father had apparently entailed on his male descendants, which went to his half brother Thomas Urswick, the son of his father's second marriage to Ellen Radcliffe.
Hope that this points you in the right direction.
Regards,
John
TJ Booth_sbc
Dec 16, 2015, 3:09:11 PM12/16/15
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On Tuesday, December 15, 2015 at 12:02:41 AM UTC-6, Kevan Barton via wrote:
> Folks,
> I've been going through "Records of the Family of Urswyk, Urswick, or
> Urwick" by Thomas Urwick. It can be found at the Internet Archive via the
> following URL.
> Folks,
> I've been going through "Records of the Family of Urswyk, Urswick, or
> Urwick" by Thomas Urwick. It can be found at the Internet Archive via the
> following URL.
> Anyway, can anyone identify for me a William Harrington that died at
> Agincourt (yr 1415)? He had married a Margaret de Hornby (daughter of
> William de Hornby), who at his death married in succession Robert Urswick,
> Richard de Kighley, and Alexander de Leeds.
Kevan,
> Agincourt (yr 1415)? He had married a Margaret de Hornby (daughter of
> William de Hornby), who at his death married in succession Robert Urswick,
> Richard de Kighley, and Alexander de Leeds.
All reports of Sir William Harrington of Farleton's death at Agincourt are greatly exagerated. He survived, and d. 22 Feb 1439/40.
See James Croston; County Families of Lancashire and Cheshire; page 254 @ http://books.google.com/books?id=C9UKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA254 [HARRINGTON OF FARLETON.]
See also William Farrar and J Brownhill (editors); VCH Lancaster Vol 8 [sub Hornby]; London; 1914; page 195 @ http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53296 , which notes :
Margaret [Neville, dau of Sir Robert by Margaret de la Pole] married the above-named Sir William Harrington of Farleton, (fn. 47) who fought at Agincourt, (fn. 48) and continued to serve in the French wars. (fn. 49) In 1431 Sir William and Margaret his wife were found to hold Hornby by one knight's fee. (fn. 50) Sir William died 22 February 1439-40, (fn. 51) and Dame Margaret in or before 1451, when she was found to have held the castle and manor of Hornby, with its appurtenances, of the king as Duke of Lancaster by knight's service. (fn. 52)
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
Douglas Richardson
Dec 17, 2015, 6:02:56 PM12/17/15
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Dear Kevan ~
Terry is correct that Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
I've copied below my current file accounts of both men. The accounts below are slightly amended from the accounts of these men found in my book, Royal Ancestry, published in 2013.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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15. MARGARET NEVILLE, married before 17 April 1401 (date of fine) WILLIAM HARINGTON, K.G., of Farleton (in Melling), Aighton (in Mitton), Bolton-le-Moors, Chorley, Ellel, and Over Kellet, Lancashire, and Farleton in Kendale, Westmorland, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1408-9, 1413-14, 1422-3, 1428-30, and, in right of his wife, of Hornby, Lancashire, son and heir of Nicholas Harington (or Haverington), Knt., of Farleton (in Melling), Bolton-le-Moors, Heath Charnock, Aighton, Lancashire, Farleton in Kendale, Westmorland, Knight of the Shire for Lancashire, Sheriff of Lancashire, 1381-4, by Isabel, daughter and heiress of William English, Knt., of Appleby, Little Strickland, and Hasket, Westmorland. They had three sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Knt., and John, Esq., and three daughters, Ellen, Isabel, and Agnes. In 1401 her parents settled the reversion of the manor of Brearley (in Halifax), Yorkshire on Margaret and her male heirs. He was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. He was one of the executors in 1417 will of his brother, James Harington, Knt. In 1420 he presented to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire. In 1423 he was granted an annuity of £100 by Queen Katherine of France, widow of King Henry V of France. His wife, Margaret, was co-heiress in 1424 to her niece, Margaret Neville, wife of Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter, by which she inherited Hornby Castle, Lancashire, and the manors of Aintree, Lancashire and Brearley (in Halifax), Yorkshire. In 1426 he and Henry Marchall, clerk, were summoned to reply to Robert Willoughby, Knt., of Rerisby, and two others in a plea that they should permit them to present a suitable rector to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire, then in their gift and vacant. He was appointed one of the executors of the 1434/5 will of his nephew, Thomas Tunstall, Knt. In 1436 the Abbot of Whalley bound himself to pay 40 marks to Margaret, wife of William Harington, Knt., and her sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Esq., and John, Esq. SIR WILLIAM HARINGTON died testate 15 Feb. 1439/40. His widow, Margaret, served as one of the executors of her husband's will. She presented to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire in 1448. She died in 1450.
References:
Whitaker, Hist. & Antiqs. of the Deanery of Craven (1812): 10 (Neville ped.). Whitaker, Hist. of Richmondshire 2(2) (1823), unpaginated, Harrington chart. Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv. Wainwright, Hist. & Topog. Intro. to the Wapentake of Strafford & Tickhill (1829): 92-94. Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1836): 648 (Harington ped.). Beltz, Mems. of the Order of the Garter (1841): clvii, clx. Hulton, Coucher Book or Chartulary of Whalley Abbey 4 (Chetham Soc. 20) (1849): 1148-1151 (obligation of Margaret widow of William de Harington, Knt., of Hornby, and her sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Esq., and John, Esq. dated 1436). Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876). 350, 418. Misc. Gen. et Heraldica n.s. 3 (1880): 236-237, 269-272. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 360 (Harrington ped.: "Sir William Harrington = Elizabeth on of theires of Sir Robert Nevill of Hornby"). Harrison, Hist. of Yorkshire: Wapentake of Gilling West (1885): 300. Croston, County Fams. of Lancashire & Cheshire (1887): 242-266 (sub Harington). Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1891): 300-301 (Holand ped.). List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 72, 162. Genealogist n.s. 17 (1901): 109-110. Clay, Yorkshire Church Notes (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 34) (1904): 70-72. Farrer, Final Concords of the County of Lancaster 3 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 50) (1905): 86-87, 123, 125, 128. C.P.R. 1429-1436 (1907): 257-258. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 426-427 (biog. of Sir Thomas Harington). C.C.R. 1435-1441 (1937): 170. Price, Yorkshire Deeds 10 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 120) (1955): 61-63. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 821-824 (biog. of Sir Robert Neville). Ormrod, Lord Lieutenants & High Sheriffs of Yorkshire, 1066-2000 (2000): 80. Smith, Art, Identity & Devotion in 14th Cent. England (2003): 43-47. National Archives, CP 25/1/279/149, #13 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].
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13. WILLIAM HARINGTON, Knt., 5th Lord Harington, of Aldingham (in Furness), Lancashire, Egremont, Cumberland, etc., King's knight, 2nd son by his father's 2nd marriage, born about 1390-4 (aged 24 26, 27, or 28 in 1418). He fought in the French wars. He crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt. In the next campaign in France in 1417, he attended his brother, John Harington, Knt. He was heir in 1418 to his older brother, John Harington, Knt., 4th Lord Harington. He fought at the Sieges of Rouen, 1418-19, Melun, 1420, and Meaux, 1421-2. He was summoned to Parliament from 26 Feb. 1420/1 to 26 Sept. 1439, by writs directed Willelmo de Haryngton'. He married in or before 1423 MARGARET HILL (or HULLE), daughter of John Hill, Knt., of Hill's Court, St. Sidwell's, Exeter, Devon, Recorder of Exeter, King's serjeant, Justice of the King's Bench, by his 2nd wife, Maud, daughter of Giles Daubeney, Knt. [see HILL 11 for her ancestry]. She was a legatee in the 1416 will of her mother. They had one daughter, Elizabeth. His wife, Margaret, was a legatee in the 1423 will of her brother, Robert Hill, of Spaxton, Somerset, who bequeathed her a girdle studded with pure gold. In 1438 he and his wife, Margaret, obtained a papal dispensation to choose a confessor. In 1430 William Gregory and three others, executors of Ralph Skynnard, Citizen and skinner of London, sued him in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £22. In 1430, as "William Haryngton knight", he sued Alexander Perys, of Truccokkeshull, Somerset, husbandman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. In 1431 he made an agreement with the Abbot of Furness concerning the bounds between Leese and Dalton. In 1433 he obtained leave for a passageway from his castle of Gleaston to Barray across the abbey's land. In 1438 he and his wife, Margaret, obtained a papal dispensation to choose a confessor. In 1440 he sued Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, and two others for the next presentation of the church of Waddingham, Lincolnshire. In 1441 he and his unnamed wife were granted a plenary indulgence in mortis articulo. SIR WILLIAM HARINGTON, 5th Lord Harington, died 3 (or 10) March 1457/8. He left a will dated 21 May 1457. His wife, Margaret, predeceased him, and was buried at Conishead Priory, Lancashire.
References:
Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv. Vautier, Extrait du Registre des Dons, Confiscations, Maintenues, et autres Actes (1828): 17. Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1836): 648 (Harington ped.). Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876): 177. Stafford, Reg. of Edmund Stafford (1886): 415-416 (will of Matilda Latymer), 424. Antiquary 32 (1896): 222-224 (Hill ped.); 36 (1900): 287-288. Birch, Cat. Seals in the British Museum 3 (1894): 68 (seal of William de Harington, Lord Harington -- A shield of arms, couché: fretty [HARINGTON]. Crest on a helmet, lambrequins tasselled, and chapeau, a lion's head erased. Background diapered with foliage). Healey, Hist. of the Part of West Somerset (1901): 252-266. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 403-405 (will of Robert Hill). Genealogist n.s. 17 (1901): 250-251. Farrer, Final Concords of the County of Lancaster 3 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 50) (1905): 130. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 356, 368. Parker "Cal. of Feet of Fines for Cumberland" in Trans. Cumberland & Westmorland Antiq. Soc. n.s. 7 (1907): 248. Papal Regs.: Letters 9 (1912): 240. Markham, Markham Memorials 1 (1913): 40 (Harington ped.). Mills, Cal. Gormanston Reg. (1916): 2, 15. Dudding, Hist. of the Manor & Parish of Saleby with Thoresthorpe (1922): 54-73 (re. Harington fam.). C.P. 6 (1926): 318-319 (sub Harington). Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 273: 2. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 373-375 (biog. of Robert Hill). Cal. IPM 21 (2002): 15-17. Clarke & Zutshi, Supplications from England & Wales in the Regs. of the Apostolic Penitentiary, 1410-1503 1 (Canterbury & York Soc. 103) (2012): 56, footnote 32. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/677, image 1403d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no677/bCP40no677dorses/IMG_1403.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/678, image 929d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no678/bCP40no678dorses/IMG_0929.htm).
Terry is correct that Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
I've copied below my current file accounts of both men. The accounts below are slightly amended from the accounts of these men found in my book, Royal Ancestry, published in 2013.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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15. MARGARET NEVILLE, married before 17 April 1401 (date of fine) WILLIAM HARINGTON, K.G., of Farleton (in Melling), Aighton (in Mitton), Bolton-le-Moors, Chorley, Ellel, and Over Kellet, Lancashire, and Farleton in Kendale, Westmorland, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1408-9, 1413-14, 1422-3, 1428-30, and, in right of his wife, of Hornby, Lancashire, son and heir of Nicholas Harington (or Haverington), Knt., of Farleton (in Melling), Bolton-le-Moors, Heath Charnock, Aighton, Lancashire, Farleton in Kendale, Westmorland, Knight of the Shire for Lancashire, Sheriff of Lancashire, 1381-4, by Isabel, daughter and heiress of William English, Knt., of Appleby, Little Strickland, and Hasket, Westmorland. They had three sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Knt., and John, Esq., and three daughters, Ellen, Isabel, and Agnes. In 1401 her parents settled the reversion of the manor of Brearley (in Halifax), Yorkshire on Margaret and her male heirs. He was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415. He was one of the executors in 1417 will of his brother, James Harington, Knt. In 1420 he presented to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire. In 1423 he was granted an annuity of £100 by Queen Katherine of France, widow of King Henry V of France. His wife, Margaret, was co-heiress in 1424 to her niece, Margaret Neville, wife of Thomas Beaufort, Duke of Exeter, by which she inherited Hornby Castle, Lancashire, and the manors of Aintree, Lancashire and Brearley (in Halifax), Yorkshire. In 1426 he and Henry Marchall, clerk, were summoned to reply to Robert Willoughby, Knt., of Rerisby, and two others in a plea that they should permit them to present a suitable rector to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire, then in their gift and vacant. He was appointed one of the executors of the 1434/5 will of his nephew, Thomas Tunstall, Knt. In 1436 the Abbot of Whalley bound himself to pay 40 marks to Margaret, wife of William Harington, Knt., and her sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Esq., and John, Esq. SIR WILLIAM HARINGTON died testate 15 Feb. 1439/40. His widow, Margaret, served as one of the executors of her husband's will. She presented to the church of Badsworth, Yorkshire in 1448. She died in 1450.
References:
Whitaker, Hist. & Antiqs. of the Deanery of Craven (1812): 10 (Neville ped.). Whitaker, Hist. of Richmondshire 2(2) (1823), unpaginated, Harrington chart. Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv. Wainwright, Hist. & Topog. Intro. to the Wapentake of Strafford & Tickhill (1829): 92-94. Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1836): 648 (Harington ped.). Beltz, Mems. of the Order of the Garter (1841): clvii, clx. Hulton, Coucher Book or Chartulary of Whalley Abbey 4 (Chetham Soc. 20) (1849): 1148-1151 (obligation of Margaret widow of William de Harington, Knt., of Hornby, and her sons, Robert, Knt., Thomas, Esq., and John, Esq. dated 1436). Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876). 350, 418. Misc. Gen. et Heraldica n.s. 3 (1880): 236-237, 269-272. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 360 (Harrington ped.: "Sir William Harrington = Elizabeth on of theires of Sir Robert Nevill of Hornby"). Harrison, Hist. of Yorkshire: Wapentake of Gilling West (1885): 300. Croston, County Fams. of Lancashire & Cheshire (1887): 242-266 (sub Harington). Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1891): 300-301 (Holand ped.). List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 72, 162. Genealogist n.s. 17 (1901): 109-110. Clay, Yorkshire Church Notes (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 34) (1904): 70-72. Farrer, Final Concords of the County of Lancaster 3 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 50) (1905): 86-87, 123, 125, 128. C.P.R. 1429-1436 (1907): 257-258. Wedgwood, Hist. of Parliament 1 (1936): 426-427 (biog. of Sir Thomas Harington). C.C.R. 1435-1441 (1937): 170. Price, Yorkshire Deeds 10 (Yorkshire Arch. Soc. Rec. Ser. 120) (1955): 61-63. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 821-824 (biog. of Sir Robert Neville). Ormrod, Lord Lieutenants & High Sheriffs of Yorkshire, 1066-2000 (2000): 80. Smith, Art, Identity & Devotion in 14th Cent. England (2003): 43-47. National Archives, CP 25/1/279/149, #13 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].
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13. WILLIAM HARINGTON, Knt., 5th Lord Harington, of Aldingham (in Furness), Lancashire, Egremont, Cumberland, etc., King's knight, 2nd son by his father's 2nd marriage, born about 1390-4 (aged 24 26, 27, or 28 in 1418). He fought in the French wars. He crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt. In the next campaign in France in 1417, he attended his brother, John Harington, Knt. He was heir in 1418 to his older brother, John Harington, Knt., 4th Lord Harington. He fought at the Sieges of Rouen, 1418-19, Melun, 1420, and Meaux, 1421-2. He was summoned to Parliament from 26 Feb. 1420/1 to 26 Sept. 1439, by writs directed Willelmo de Haryngton'. He married in or before 1423 MARGARET HILL (or HULLE), daughter of John Hill, Knt., of Hill's Court, St. Sidwell's, Exeter, Devon, Recorder of Exeter, King's serjeant, Justice of the King's Bench, by his 2nd wife, Maud, daughter of Giles Daubeney, Knt. [see HILL 11 for her ancestry]. She was a legatee in the 1416 will of her mother. They had one daughter, Elizabeth. His wife, Margaret, was a legatee in the 1423 will of her brother, Robert Hill, of Spaxton, Somerset, who bequeathed her a girdle studded with pure gold. In 1438 he and his wife, Margaret, obtained a papal dispensation to choose a confessor. In 1430 William Gregory and three others, executors of Ralph Skynnard, Citizen and skinner of London, sued him in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £22. In 1430, as "William Haryngton knight", he sued Alexander Perys, of Truccokkeshull, Somerset, husbandman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt. In 1431 he made an agreement with the Abbot of Furness concerning the bounds between Leese and Dalton. In 1433 he obtained leave for a passageway from his castle of Gleaston to Barray across the abbey's land. In 1438 he and his wife, Margaret, obtained a papal dispensation to choose a confessor. In 1440 he sued Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, and two others for the next presentation of the church of Waddingham, Lincolnshire. In 1441 he and his unnamed wife were granted a plenary indulgence in mortis articulo. SIR WILLIAM HARINGTON, 5th Lord Harington, died 3 (or 10) March 1457/8. He left a will dated 21 May 1457. His wife, Margaret, predeceased him, and was buried at Conishead Priory, Lancashire.
References:
Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv. Vautier, Extrait du Registre des Dons, Confiscations, Maintenues, et autres Actes (1828): 17. Baines, Hist. of the County Palatine & Duchy of Lancaster 4 (1836): 648 (Harington ped.). Annual Rpt. of the Deputy Keeper 37 (1876): 177. Stafford, Reg. of Edmund Stafford (1886): 415-416 (will of Matilda Latymer), 424. Antiquary 32 (1896): 222-224 (Hill ped.); 36 (1900): 287-288. Birch, Cat. Seals in the British Museum 3 (1894): 68 (seal of William de Harington, Lord Harington -- A shield of arms, couché: fretty [HARINGTON]. Crest on a helmet, lambrequins tasselled, and chapeau, a lion's head erased. Background diapered with foliage). Healey, Hist. of the Part of West Somerset (1901): 252-266. Weaver, Somerset Medieval Wills 1 (Somerset Rec. Soc. 16) (1901): 403-405 (will of Robert Hill). Genealogist n.s. 17 (1901): 250-251. Farrer, Final Concords of the County of Lancaster 3 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 50) (1905): 130. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 356, 368. Parker "Cal. of Feet of Fines for Cumberland" in Trans. Cumberland & Westmorland Antiq. Soc. n.s. 7 (1907): 248. Papal Regs.: Letters 9 (1912): 240. Markham, Markham Memorials 1 (1913): 40 (Harington ped.). Mills, Cal. Gormanston Reg. (1916): 2, 15. Dudding, Hist. of the Manor & Parish of Saleby with Thoresthorpe (1922): 54-73 (re. Harington fam.). C.P. 6 (1926): 318-319 (sub Harington). Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 273: 2. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 373-375 (biog. of Robert Hill). Cal. IPM 21 (2002): 15-17. Clarke & Zutshi, Supplications from England & Wales in the Regs. of the Apostolic Penitentiary, 1410-1503 1 (Canterbury & York Soc. 103) (2012): 56, footnote 32. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/677, image 1403d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no677/bCP40no677dorses/IMG_1403.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/678, image 929d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no678/bCP40no678dorses/IMG_0929.htm).
Peter Stewart via
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On 18/12/2015 10:02 AM, Douglas Richardson via wrote:
> Dear Kevan ~
>
> Terry is correct that Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
>
> However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
>
> As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
sickness" according to
http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
Peter Stewart
Peter Stewart via
Dec 17, 2015, 8:01:30 PM12/17/15
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On 18/12/2015 11:54 AM, Peter Stewart via wrote:
>
> On 18/12/2015 10:02 AM, Douglas Richardson via wrote:
>> Dear Kevan ~
>>
>> Terry is correct that Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
>>
>> However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
>>
>> As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
>>
>> Terry is correct that Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
>>
>> However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
>>
>> As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
> The "Aldingham man" was "sent home ten days before the battle due to
> sickness" according to
> http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
>
I beg your pardon, the invalid would have been his elder brother John.
> sickness" according to
> http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
>
Peter Stewart
Jan Wolfe
Dec 17, 2015, 8:15:42 PM12/17/15
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I see four entries for William Harington in the muster rolls in the medieval soldier database for soldiers serving under Henry V in 1415 in the expedition to France:
Name Surname Status Rank Captain Name Reference Membrane
William Harington Man-at-arms Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of BL_Harley_782 72
William Harington Knight Harrington, William, Sir BL_Harley_782 f86v
William Harington Harrington, William, Sir BL_Harley_782 f86v
William Harryngton Man-at-arms Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of TNA E101/45/13 m2
(http://www.medievalsoldier.org/search.php)
Perhaps the second and third entries suggest that Sir William Harington was the captain in the unit in which the other William Harington served at Agincourt.
The description for the reference for the fourth entry is "Muster of the retinue of Humphrey, duke of Gloucester, at Michaelmarsh, near Romsey," 3 Henry 5. (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4509339)
Sir William Haryngton also appears in the protection database of the medieval soldier project. There are several additional later entries in the Normandy Garrison database for men of this name (as in Douglas' comments above).
Name Surname Status Rank Captain Name Reference Membrane
William Harington Man-at-arms Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of BL_Harley_782 72
William Harington Knight Harrington, William, Sir BL_Harley_782 f86v
William Harington Harrington, William, Sir BL_Harley_782 f86v
William Harryngton Man-at-arms Gloucester, Humphrey, Duke of TNA E101/45/13 m2
(http://www.medievalsoldier.org/search.php)
Perhaps the second and third entries suggest that Sir William Harington was the captain in the unit in which the other William Harington served at Agincourt.
The description for the reference for the fourth entry is "Muster of the retinue of Humphrey, duke of Gloucester, at Michaelmarsh, near Romsey," 3 Henry 5. (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4509339)
Sir William Haryngton also appears in the protection database of the medieval soldier project. There are several additional later entries in the Normandy Garrison database for men of this name (as in Douglas' comments above).
Peter Stewart via
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retinue of the duke of Gloucester in the roll recorded by the steward of
the royal household a year after the battle, shown in a 16th-century
copy near the bottom of the College of Arms webpage I linked earlier
(without reading through it!),
http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
Peter Stewart
Peter Stewart via
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On 18/12/2015 1:29 PM, Peter Stewart via wrote:
>
> On 18/12/2015 12:15 PM, Jan Wolfe via wrote:
> William Harington - presumably of Farleton & Hornby - appears in the
> retinue of the duke of Gloucester in the roll recorded by the steward of
> the royal household a year after the battle, shown in a 16th-century
> copy near the bottom of the College of Arms webpage I linked earlier
> (without reading through it!),
> http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
>
Apologies, I'm not paying attention at all - Douglas Richardson has
> retinue of the duke of Gloucester in the roll recorded by the steward of
> the royal household a year after the battle, shown in a 16th-century
> copy near the bottom of the College of Arms webpage I linked earlier
> (without reading through it!),
> http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/119-the-battle-of-agincourt.
>
already identified this William with the duke of Gloucester as the
"Aldingham man", not the namesake of Hornby.
Peter Stewart
TJ Booth_sbc
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On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 5:02:56 PM UTC-6, Douglas Richardson wrote:
> . . Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
The VCH source noted in my post was to "Nicolas; Agincourt; page 362". It states that Sir William was listed on the Battle Rolls for Agincourt. That online source further claims to describe the battle and its participants using only contemporary sources.[1] I am not a historian to know how far to trust Nicolas, but am prejudiced to people claiming to rely on contemporary sources.
Before citing Nicolas, the differing ages of the 2 Williams helps discriminate between them:
(1) Sir William of Farleton [Hornby was not inherited by his wife until 1433] was b. perhaps 1366, and d. 15 Feb 1440. He was the eldest and wealthiest Sir William of his family line.
(2) Sir William of Aldingham was instead a relatively young man in 1415, in his mid 20's, and his older brother Sir John was richer and the family heir. Royal Ancestry iii:222, states Sir William of Aldingham was b. 1390-94 [based on conflicting ages in the the 1418 ipms of older brother Sir John]. If the 10 May 1410 date of a grant of right of way to he and his wife Margaret is correct, he was in fact b. bef 10 May 1389.[2] The marriage date for the couple also merits revision to before 10 May 1410. The discussion in RA states Sir William of Aldingham was in the retinue of the Duke of Gloucester in 1415 - this is confirmed by Nicolas in the records cited below.
[3] No other Sir Williams are noted in the record for the years around 1415.
[Nicolas p 17] Sir William Harington was one of 7 knights who helped fund the wages of Agincourt participants by making a loan to the king, secured by plates and jewels, the pawned items later redeemed by Henry VI. [This is surely Sir William of Farleton]
A 1415 battle roll, taken from Harleian MSS 782 as apparently "discovered in the British Museum by Nicolas", notes that :
[p.333] Retinue of Duke of Gloucester, 1415. It includes William Harington, Lance. Surely William of Aldingham, in agreement with Richardson.
[p.341] Retinue of Sr. de Harington. Later entries indicate this is Sir John of Aldingham, William's older brother. Includes a Richard Harington. Sir John contributed 26 lances, 83 archers.
[p. 343] Retinue of Lord Roos includes a Robert Harington, lance.
[p. 362] Retinue of Sir William Harington. Includes a second William Harington. Total of 13 lances, 28 archers. This can only be Sir William of Farleton, identity of 2nd William uncertain.
Nicolas then cites a roll likely dated a few years later, but in his view near contemporary, which notes "the names of the nobles of England that was with the Kinge at the Battayll of Agyncourte". The short list of 20 names starts with Humfrey Duke of Gloucester, Edward Duke of Yorks slayn, Conte de Huntyngton . . . [p. 369] 19th on the list is "Le Sr. de Harington" This is Sir John. The list is only of high ranking nobility. If as Peter states, John returned to England before the battle, it must have been a last minute issue with his soldiers remaining.
Lastly, a roll dated 1415 but with some later additions, from the collections for Rymer's Foedera, Sloane MSS 6400. It starts with a list of major contributors of troops, and then adds an alphabetized list of lesser contributors. Some of the names are not on MSS 782, so are additions.
[p. 374] 20th on the major contributor list is John Sire de Harington, 30 men at arms of which 3 are knights and 26 esquires, plus 90 horse archers. His retinue count is very close to the MSS 782 count, suggesting credibility.
[p.380] The lesser contributors list includes James Harington Knt, 6 men at arms, 18 foot archers;
another James Harington knt, 10 men at arms, 30 foot archers; and lastly,
William Harington knt, 10 men at arms, 30 foot archers. This is Sir William of Farleton. His retinue count is close to that noted in MSS 782
On page 174, it is suggested that the Order of the Garter for several years after Agincourt, was reserved for those who participated in the Battle. Sir William is stated to have received the Order of the Garter on St. George's day 1416, along with the Earls of Huntingdon, Oxford, and Thomas Lord Camois (commander of the rear guard at Agincourt). More correctly, it appears that only 4 were elected in 1416, - Harington, William Lord Zouche, Sir John Holand Earl of Huntingdon, and the Earl of Oxford, with Zouche dying before the installation, and Sigismund brother of Queen Anne named in his place. Lord Camoys had been named in 1415.[3]
Anyone looking to confirm that an ancestor may have participated in the Battle of Agincourt would do well to peruse Sir Nicolas' index of participants, pages 391 to 400. While surely incomplete as to lesser nobility, it may serve as a useful starting point. Perhaps others can suggest a better source.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
Footnotes
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[1] Sir Nicholas H Nicolas; History of Battle of Agincourt; London; Johnson; 1832 (2nd edition). URL= books.google.com/books?id=k6A-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA391 [Page 391 is the index of participants]
[2] T Duffus Hardy (editor); Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, Volume 36; London; PRO; 1875. page 170 @ books.google.com/books?id=yf8qAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA170
#75. A.D. 1410. Deed indented between Robert, the abbot of the monastery of St. Mary and the convent of Furness, and William de Haryngton, the lord of Aldingham, and Margaret his wife, by which the abbot and convent grant to the said William and Margaret, and their heirs and assigns, a way to and from the castle of Gleston, and their manor of Aldingham over the abbot's hind, meadow and pasture in Dalton, up to Barray, (described by metes,) on foot and with all manner of carriages and horses ; the right not to extend to their men and tenants dwelling within the precinct of the said manor. Witnesses: William do Haryngton of Hornby, knight, Thomas de Bethome, John de Broughton, John de Haryngton of Cartmell, and Christopher do Berdesay. 10 May, 11 Henry IV. (One only of the two seals)
[3] George Frederick Beltz; Memorials of the Order of the Garter; London; Pickering; 1841; page clvii; URL= books.google.com/books?id=IjhCodr5f_AC&pg=PR157
> . . Sir William Harington, of Hornby, Lancashire did not die in 1415 as you suppose, but died in 1440. He is thought to be the Sir William Harington who was a standard bearer at the Battle of Agincourt in 1415.
>
> However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
>
> As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
Thank you Douglas and Peter for your posts about the two Sir William Haringtons and their presence (or not) at the 1415 Battle of Agincourt. Since a number of probablys and ifs were noted, with the comment "it is possible both men were at the Battle." the comments piqued my interest
> However, his cousin, Sir William Harington (died 1458), of Aldingham, Lancashire, is known to have crossed to France in 1415 in the train of the Duke of Gloucester, and it is thought that he probably took part in the Battle of Agincourt.
>
> As such, it is possible that both men were at the Battle of Agincourt. If there was only one Sir William Harington at Agincourt, my guess would be that it was the Aldingham man, as he was quite active in military service in France after 1415.
The VCH source noted in my post was to "Nicolas; Agincourt; page 362". It states that Sir William was listed on the Battle Rolls for Agincourt. That online source further claims to describe the battle and its participants using only contemporary sources.[1] I am not a historian to know how far to trust Nicolas, but am prejudiced to people claiming to rely on contemporary sources.
Before citing Nicolas, the differing ages of the 2 Williams helps discriminate between them:
(1) Sir William of Farleton [Hornby was not inherited by his wife until 1433] was b. perhaps 1366, and d. 15 Feb 1440. He was the eldest and wealthiest Sir William of his family line.
(2) Sir William of Aldingham was instead a relatively young man in 1415, in his mid 20's, and his older brother Sir John was richer and the family heir. Royal Ancestry iii:222, states Sir William of Aldingham was b. 1390-94 [based on conflicting ages in the the 1418 ipms of older brother Sir John]. If the 10 May 1410 date of a grant of right of way to he and his wife Margaret is correct, he was in fact b. bef 10 May 1389.[2] The marriage date for the couple also merits revision to before 10 May 1410. The discussion in RA states Sir William of Aldingham was in the retinue of the Duke of Gloucester in 1415 - this is confirmed by Nicolas in the records cited below.
[3] No other Sir Williams are noted in the record for the years around 1415.
[Nicolas p 17] Sir William Harington was one of 7 knights who helped fund the wages of Agincourt participants by making a loan to the king, secured by plates and jewels, the pawned items later redeemed by Henry VI. [This is surely Sir William of Farleton]
A 1415 battle roll, taken from Harleian MSS 782 as apparently "discovered in the British Museum by Nicolas", notes that :
[p.333] Retinue of Duke of Gloucester, 1415. It includes William Harington, Lance. Surely William of Aldingham, in agreement with Richardson.
[p.341] Retinue of Sr. de Harington. Later entries indicate this is Sir John of Aldingham, William's older brother. Includes a Richard Harington. Sir John contributed 26 lances, 83 archers.
[p. 343] Retinue of Lord Roos includes a Robert Harington, lance.
[p. 362] Retinue of Sir William Harington. Includes a second William Harington. Total of 13 lances, 28 archers. This can only be Sir William of Farleton, identity of 2nd William uncertain.
Nicolas then cites a roll likely dated a few years later, but in his view near contemporary, which notes "the names of the nobles of England that was with the Kinge at the Battayll of Agyncourte". The short list of 20 names starts with Humfrey Duke of Gloucester, Edward Duke of Yorks slayn, Conte de Huntyngton . . . [p. 369] 19th on the list is "Le Sr. de Harington" This is Sir John. The list is only of high ranking nobility. If as Peter states, John returned to England before the battle, it must have been a last minute issue with his soldiers remaining.
Lastly, a roll dated 1415 but with some later additions, from the collections for Rymer's Foedera, Sloane MSS 6400. It starts with a list of major contributors of troops, and then adds an alphabetized list of lesser contributors. Some of the names are not on MSS 782, so are additions.
[p. 374] 20th on the major contributor list is John Sire de Harington, 30 men at arms of which 3 are knights and 26 esquires, plus 90 horse archers. His retinue count is very close to the MSS 782 count, suggesting credibility.
[p.380] The lesser contributors list includes James Harington Knt, 6 men at arms, 18 foot archers;
another James Harington knt, 10 men at arms, 30 foot archers; and lastly,
William Harington knt, 10 men at arms, 30 foot archers. This is Sir William of Farleton. His retinue count is close to that noted in MSS 782
On page 174, it is suggested that the Order of the Garter for several years after Agincourt, was reserved for those who participated in the Battle. Sir William is stated to have received the Order of the Garter on St. George's day 1416, along with the Earls of Huntingdon, Oxford, and Thomas Lord Camois (commander of the rear guard at Agincourt). More correctly, it appears that only 4 were elected in 1416, - Harington, William Lord Zouche, Sir John Holand Earl of Huntingdon, and the Earl of Oxford, with Zouche dying before the installation, and Sigismund brother of Queen Anne named in his place. Lord Camoys had been named in 1415.[3]
Anyone looking to confirm that an ancestor may have participated in the Battle of Agincourt would do well to peruse Sir Nicolas' index of participants, pages 391 to 400. While surely incomplete as to lesser nobility, it may serve as a useful starting point. Perhaps others can suggest a better source.
Terry Booth
Chicago IL
Footnotes
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[1] Sir Nicholas H Nicolas; History of Battle of Agincourt; London; Johnson; 1832 (2nd edition). URL= books.google.com/books?id=k6A-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA391 [Page 391 is the index of participants]
[2] T Duffus Hardy (editor); Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, Volume 36; London; PRO; 1875. page 170 @ books.google.com/books?id=yf8qAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA170
#75. A.D. 1410. Deed indented between Robert, the abbot of the monastery of St. Mary and the convent of Furness, and William de Haryngton, the lord of Aldingham, and Margaret his wife, by which the abbot and convent grant to the said William and Margaret, and their heirs and assigns, a way to and from the castle of Gleston, and their manor of Aldingham over the abbot's hind, meadow and pasture in Dalton, up to Barray, (described by metes,) on foot and with all manner of carriages and horses ; the right not to extend to their men and tenants dwelling within the precinct of the said manor. Witnesses: William do Haryngton of Hornby, knight, Thomas de Bethome, John de Broughton, John de Haryngton of Cartmell, and Christopher do Berdesay. 10 May, 11 Henry IV. (One only of the two seals)
[3] George Frederick Beltz; Memorials of the Order of the Garter; London; Pickering; 1841; page clvii; URL= books.google.com/books?id=IjhCodr5f_AC&pg=PR157
Douglas Richardson
Dec 21, 2015, 3:46:45 PM12/21/15
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Dear Terry ~
In your last message, you posted a record copied below involving Robert, Abbot of Furness, and William de Haryngton, lord of Aldingham, and his wife, Margaret, which record is dated 1410.
This deed is clearly misdated. In 1410 Sir John Harington, 4th Lord Harington, was lord of Aldingham, and his wife's name was Elizabeth, not Margaret. His son, Sir William Harington, only became lord of Aldingham in 1418. William's wife's name was Margaret. As such, this deed would necessarily have to date sometime after 1418.
The misdating of this deed is discussed in Atkinson, Coucher Book of Furness Abbey 3 (Chetham Soc. n.s. 14) (1887): lii, at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=EkgJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR52
The editor Mr. Atkinson notes that Robert, Abbot of Furness, occurs in other records dated 1424 and 1431, whereas the Abbot of Furness in 1410 was clearly William de Dalton. As such, Mr. Atkinson argues that the correct date of the deed in question is 1433. This dating makes good sense, as one of the witnesses to the deed is Sir William Harington, of Hornby, who is known to have been retained in service by his kinsman, Sir William Harington, 5th Lord Harington, of Aldingham, until 5 or 6 years before William Harington of Hornby's death in 1440 [see Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv; National Archives, C 1/1/45 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk)]. Given these facts, the deed would obviously date sometime between 1418 and 1434-5, which range agrees with Mr. Atkinson's conclusion.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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In your last message, you posted a record copied below involving Robert, Abbot of Furness, and William de Haryngton, lord of Aldingham, and his wife, Margaret, which record is dated 1410.
This deed is clearly misdated. In 1410 Sir John Harington, 4th Lord Harington, was lord of Aldingham, and his wife's name was Elizabeth, not Margaret. His son, Sir William Harington, only became lord of Aldingham in 1418. William's wife's name was Margaret. As such, this deed would necessarily have to date sometime after 1418.
The misdating of this deed is discussed in Atkinson, Coucher Book of Furness Abbey 3 (Chetham Soc. n.s. 14) (1887): lii, at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=EkgJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PR52
The editor Mr. Atkinson notes that Robert, Abbot of Furness, occurs in other records dated 1424 and 1431, whereas the Abbot of Furness in 1410 was clearly William de Dalton. As such, Mr. Atkinson argues that the correct date of the deed in question is 1433. This dating makes good sense, as one of the witnesses to the deed is Sir William Harington, of Hornby, who is known to have been retained in service by his kinsman, Sir William Harington, 5th Lord Harington, of Aldingham, until 5 or 6 years before William Harington of Hornby's death in 1440 [see Cals. of the Procs. in Chancery, in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth 1 (1827): xxxiv; National Archives, C 1/1/45 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk)]. Given these facts, the deed would obviously date sometime between 1418 and 1434-5, which range agrees with Mr. Atkinson's conclusion.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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[2] T Duffus Hardy (editor); Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records, Volume 36; London; PRO; 1875. page 170 @ books.google.com/books?id=yf8qAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA170
#75. A.D. 1410. Deed indented between Robert, the abbot of the monastery of St. Mary and the convent of Furness, and William de Haryngton, the lord of Aldingham, and Margaret his wife, by which the abbot and convent grant to the said William and Margaret, and their heirs and assigns, a way to and from the castle of Gleston, and their manor of Aldingham over the abbot's hind, meadow and pasture in Dalton, up to Barray, (described by metes,) on foot and with all manner of carriages and horses ; the right not to extend to their men and tenants dwelling within the precinct of the said manor. Witnesses: William do Haryngton of Hornby, knight, Thomas de Bethome, John de Broughton, John de Haryngton of Cartmell, and Christopher do Berdesay. 10 May, 11 Henry IV. (One only of the two seals).
Peter Stewart via
Dec 21, 2015, 6:02:23 PM12/21/15
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On 22/12/2015 7:46 AM, Douglas Richardson via wrote:
> Dear Terry ~
>
> In your last message, you posted a record copied below involving Robert, Abbot of Furness, and William de Haryngton, lord of Aldingham, and his wife, Margaret, which record is dated 1410.
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> This deed is clearly misdated. In 1410 Sir John Harington, 4th Lord Harington, was lord of Aldingham, and his wife's name was Elizabeth, not Margaret. His son, Sir William Harington, only became lord of Aldingham in 1418. William's wife's name was Margaret. As such, this deed would necessarily have to date sometime after 1418.
CP, William was aged 28 when he became 5th Lord Harington in 1418
succeeding his brother John, the 4th lord, who had been aged 22 or more
when he succeeded their father in May 1406.
Peter Stewart
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