Alice (Eleanor) Hungerford

Howard Loomis

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Apr 8, 2003, 10:18:44 PM4/8/03

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I am trying to find documentation for Alice (Eleanor) Hungerford, born
about 1426, as a daughter of Robert Hungerford and Eleanor de Moleyns but
am unable to do so. Alice (Eleanor) married John White. Does anyone
have a source documenting her as Robert's daughter?
Howard

John Steele Gordon

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Apr 9, 2003, 9:39:44 AM4/9/03

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"Howard Loomis" <howard...@juno.com> wrote in message
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PA3 (p. 193) has Robert Hungerford born before 1429, his father born abt
1409, and his marriage to Eleanor Moleyns taking place before 5 Nov. 1440.
So it seems unlikely at the least that he would have had a daughter born abt
1426.

Shawn Potter

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Apr 9, 2003, 8:22:21 PM4/9/03

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howard...@juno.com (Howard Loomis) wrote in message news:<20030408.201704.-42...@juno.com>...

Howard,

You may want to look at the following article in the New England
Historical and Genealogical Register for a discussion of the evidence.

Fiske, Jane Fletcher, editor, "New England Historical and Genealogical
Register," Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society: vol
154, April 2000, p. 224, "9. Eleanor Hungerford [daughter of Robert
Hungerford and Margaret Botreaux], b. say 1435 ..."

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Fiske, Jane Fletcher, editor, "New England Historical and Genealogical
Register," Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society: vol
154, April 2000, p. 224, "9. Eleanor Hungerford ... m. (1st) before
1455, John White ..."

Shawn Potter

Kevan Barton

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Apr 9, 2003, 10:33:19 PM4/9/03

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"Hungerfordiana: or Memoirs of the Family of Hungerford", collected by Sir
Richard Colt Hoare, Bart., provides only four children: 1. Thomas, heir -
2. Walter, 3. Leonard, and Frideswide who became a nun at Sion.

Cheers,
Kevan

Clagett, Brice

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Apr 14, 2003, 3:08:18 PM4/14/03

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The marriage of John White and Eleanor Hungerford is supported by visitation pedigrees in Harleian Society volumes 14 and 64. Douglas Richardson argued in his article "Plantagenet Ancestry of Edward Rainsford," NEHGR 154:219 (2000), that it is also supported by the transfer of Hungerford lands to Robert White in the 1460s, but this without more would be unpersuasive since at that time Lady Hungerford was selling off many properties to ransom her son from the French. See Michael Hicks, _Richard III and His Rivals: Magnates and Their Motives in the War of the Roses_ (1991) pp. 205-08.