Milisent Ferrers and Ralph de Mortimer

[Leslie Hauck]

Good day to all,

Does anyone know if and how Milisent Ferrers connects to the Ferrer family
that includes the Earls of Derby and their later ancestors in Ferrieres, Fr.
?
I have her as the wife of Ralph de Mortimer, and the mother of Hugh de
Mortimer of Wigmore 1108-1185. I have as Hugh's wife, Maud Longespee.
I have no dates on Milisent or her husband Ralph de Mortimer, and nothing
more on their ascending lineage.
Also does anyone know if this same Ralph de Mortimer had a dau named Hawise
de Mortimer who was married to Stephen, Count of Aumale d. 1130 ?
I would appreciate any guidance on this.
Best Regards, Leslie Hauck

[Reedpcgen]

CP 9:268 [and note g] lists Ralph de Mortimer and marrying (1) Melisande [no
surname given] and (2) Mabel.

In a charter dated ca. 1100, Stephen, Count of Aumale, with consent of his
wife Hawise, daughter of Ralph de Mortimer, granted a church to the priory of
Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Paris, which also mentions Ralph's deceased wife,
Melisande. Hawise was (from another charter) clearly Melisande's daughter, but
it is not certain that Melisande was Hugh's mother.

CP 9:269 states that the "name of [Hugh's] wife is unknown."

Ralph, Hugh's father, was son of Roger de Mortimer, Seigneur of
Mortemer-sur-Eaulme, Normandy. His wife's name was Hawise.

pcr

[Benjamin Hertzel]

> Does anyone know if and how Milisent Ferrers connects to the Ferrer family
> that includes the Earls of Derby and their later ancestors in Ferrieres, Fr.
> ?
> I have her as the wife of Ralph de Mortimer, and the mother of Hugh de
> Mortimer of Wigmore 1108-1185. I have as Hugh's wife, Maud Longespee.

Can you tell me how Milicent fits into the Ferrers family, and how Maud
fits into the Longespee family?

Thank you.

Benjamin

[G . EDWARD ALLEN]

CP under Mortimer, gives Roger d. ca. 1214 a wife Isabel, daughter of
Walkelin Ferrieres, seigneur of Ferrieres-Saint-Hilaire and lord of
Oakham, Rutland.

Hugh de Mortimer, d. 1180/81 married Maud, dtr. of William Meschin of
Skipton-in-Craven and brother of Ranulph I Earl of Chester.

Kay Allen AG all...@pacbell.net

[Leslie Hauck]

Thanks for your help in straightening out those errors. It is much
appreciated.
Best Regards, Leslie Hauck
Leslie Hauck wrote in message <6v1lnm$hn5$1...@haus.efn.org>...
>Good day to all,

>
>Does anyone know if and how Milisent Ferrers connects to the Ferrer family
>that includes the Earls of Derby and their later ancestors in Ferrieres,
Fr.
>?
>I have her as the wife of Ralph de Mortimer, and the mother of Hugh de
>Mortimer of Wigmore 1108-1185. I have as Hugh's wife, Maud Longespee.