Uhtred of Tyndale

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Uhtred of Tyndale is said to have married Princess Bethoc, daughter of King
Donald III of Scotland. Is there any contemporary evidence to suggest that he
was the son of Waltheof II of Northumberland and wife Judith? If Uhtred was the
son of Waltheof, then why did he not inherit his father's titles? Waltheof had
several daughters who married notable figures of the times (namely Simon St.
Liz, Robert Fitz Richard de Clare, and King Edgar). Moreover, Uhtred is said to
have been the progenitor of the families of Johnston of Annandale and his
daughter, Hextilda, is said to have married Richard Comyn. Any real information
pertaining to the life of Uhtred of Tyndale would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Todd A. Johnson

[The...@aol.com]

Sunday, 8 July, 2001

Hello Todd,

The connection you reference, as outlined below, is valid, but there is
confusion over the name Waltheof that is muddying the waters.

Waltheof of Tynedale was the father of Uhtred, but this was not Waltheof,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton. That Waltheof, sometimes referred to as
Waltheof II (an ancestor having been Waltheof of Northumbria, pre-conquest)
was married to Judith, niece of the Conqueror, and was executed for treason
31 May 1076, at Winchester. He had issue, including a daughter Matilda whose
husbands (Simon de St. Liz and David, later King of Scots) and descendants by
both husbands were Earls of Huntingdon and Northampton (sometimes also
Northumberland).

Waltheof of Tynedale's primary claim to fame is as the father of Uhtred,
and thereby (as indicated below) ancestor of the Comyns of Tynedale and (more
importantly) Scotland.

Duncan I = Sibyl
K. of Scots
____________________
I I
Malcolm III Domnall Ban Waltheof of
K of Scots (aka Donalbain) Tynedale
1058-1093 K of Scots 1093-1097 I
I I
Bethoc = Uhtred of Tynedale
I
I
Hextilda = Richard Comyn
heiress of I d. 1182
Badenoch I
I
William Comyn
lord of Lochaber and Badenoch
Earl of Buchan de jure uxoris
d. 1233

What other minor details one might find (little more than given about) as
to Uhtred of Tynedale could be found in Scots Peerage, under Comyn, and in
Alan Young's book, Robert the Bruce's Rivals: The Comyns, 1212-1314 (East
Linton: Tuckwell Press, 1997).

Hope this helps.

John

[taf]

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 6:38:07 PM UTC-7, Tom Johnson wrote:
> His Father was killed a traitor, his sons had nothing.

Not so. Uchtred inherited Tynedale from his father Waltheof of Tynedale. It was Earl Waltheof, a different person, who was executed for treason.

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