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Eric Mendoza

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May 21, 2004, 1:41:14 PM5/21/04
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Does anyone know of a book/books which list the descendants of Gustav
I, King of Sweden. Several groups list the heirs of the line;
however, my interests are the heirs of the line and the senior male
representative of the daughters of the Swedish kings during the period
1523-1818. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

A.nonn...@somewhere.else

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May 21, 2004, 2:39:11 PM5/21/04
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Paul Meijer Granqvist, "Gustaf Vasas avkomlingar inom och utom Sverige".
Published in 1924, 260 pages. Shows many (not all) descendants of Gustaf Vasa.

Phil Moody

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May 22, 2004, 8:19:07 PM5/22/04
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Have you consulted _Lines of Succession, Heraldry of the Royal
Families of Europe_, by Louda and Maclagan, 2002, Barnes & Noble? ISBN
0-7607-3287-6

WJho...@aol.com

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May 22, 2004, 9:49:05 PM5/22/04
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The below cited work, which I possess has this to say about the first
generation
Gustav I was married three times (or at least they only list the first three
wives)
First to Catherine in 1531, she b 1513 d 1535, d of Magnus I, Duke of
Saxe-Lauenburg.
They only list one child, a son, Eric XIV K of Sweden 1560-8, b 1533 d 1577,
who m in 1568 to Catherine Maansdatter b 1550 d 1612. Then list two children,
sons, Henry d 1633 and Gustavus b 1568 d 1607. Nothing further on this line.

Second wife of Gustav I is Margaret d of Eric Lejonhufvud, she was born 1514
and d 1551. They married in 1536.
Five children are listed, 1) John III K of Sweden 1568, b 1526 [maybe 1536,
but as found], d 1583; 2) Cecily b 1540 d 1627; 3) Magnus b 1542, d 1595; 4)
Anne Mary b 1545 d 1610; 5) Charles IX K of Sweden 1604, b 1550, d 1611

There is more detail but tell me what you're looking for cause I don't wanna
type out six pages of details...
Thanks
Will Johnson


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Eric Mendoza

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May 23, 2004, 2:48:40 AM5/23/04
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I have a copy of the first edition of this book and it does not show
all descendants of any ruling family or provide the heir of the line
or male representatives of daughters of Swedish Kings. Thanks for the
suggestion. Eric

R2D2 Hughes

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May 23, 2004, 7:53:13 PM5/23/04
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is this what you want?


01. Gustaf I, King of Sweden
02. Carl IX, King of Sweden
03. Catherine
= John Casimir of Zweibrucken
04. Christine Magdalene
= Frederick VI, Margrave of Baden
05. Frederick VII, Margrave of Baden (d1709)
06. Albertina Frederica
= Christian Augustus of Holstein-Gottorp
07. Adolph-Frederick, King of Sweden
08. Gustaf III, King of Sweden
09. Gustaf IV Adolf, King of Sweden
10. Sophie (d1865), sis of Gustaf (d1877), father of Carola (d1907),
sometimes referred to as "Queen Carola"
= Karl-Leopold of Baden (d1852)
11. Frederick William Louis (d1907)
12. Victoria (d1930)
= Gustaf V, King of Sweden
13. Gustaf VI Adolf, King of Sweden
14. Gustaf-Adolf (d1947)
15. Carl XVI Gustaf, now reigning

Phil Moody

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May 24, 2004, 10:18:35 AM5/24/04
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The 1st edition (1983) is somewhat dated, Eric. The 2002 edition has
been revised and updated; so it would behoove you to consult the new
edition, and see what has changed concerning the house of Vasa. It is
much to intricate to fully recite here without a great deal of
effort - as Mr. Johnson implies. However, I could scan the pages and
send them to you as image files. It would be a pity not to have the
scans in Color, but black and white will make a much smaller file
size, and would suit your purpose.

Cheers,
Phil


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Eric Mendoza

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May 24, 2004, 11:32:47 AM5/24/04
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rdave...@aol.com (R2D2 Hughes) wrote in message news:<5cf351b3.04052...@posting.google.com>...

> is this what you want?
>
> No. My post stated "descendants and senior male representataives"
of the daughters of Gustaf I. Perhaps some examples will help the
group understand the question more fully. Queen Elizabeth II is the
heir of the line of George III; however, the heir male of George III
is Ernst August of Hanover, husband of Caroline of Monaco. The heir
of the line of Albert, husband of Queen Victoria, is Queen Elizabeth
II; however, his heir male is Richard, Duke of Gloucester. The heir of
the line is usually traced easily. The heir male of an individual
could change, depending on descents through females (semi-salic).
>

Frank Johansen

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May 24, 2004, 12:19:44 PM5/24/04
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Oldest daughter: Katarina Gustafsdotter - married to Count Edzard II of
Ostfriesland. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be Moritz,
Landgrave of Hesse (b. 1926)

Second daghter: Cäcilie Gustafsdotter - married Margrave Christoph II of
Baden-Rodemarchern. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be
Archduchess Margherita of Austria, née Princess of Savoy, b. 1930.

Third daughter: Anna Maria Gustafsdotter - married Pfalzgraf Georg
Johann I of Veldenz. Male line and all other lines extinct.

Fourth daughter: Sofia Gustafsdotter - married Duke Magnus II of
Saxe-Lauenburg. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be someone in
the Swedish nobility, since their son Duke Gustav of Saxe-Lauenburg only
had one illegitimate son who was ennobled in Sweden as Gustaf Gustafsson
Rutencrantz. (UN General Secretary Dag Hammarskiöld was one of their
descendants.)

Fifth daughter: Elisabeth Gustafsdotter - married Duke Christof of
Mecklenburg-Schwerin. No sons. Heir of line seems to be Friedrich, 8th
Furst zu Wied (b. 1961)

For a good online genealogy source, see Leo van de Pas'
http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00014929&tree=LEO

Regards
Frank H. Johansen

Johan Andersson

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May 24, 2004, 12:34:17 PM5/24/04
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"Frank Johansen" <joh...@chello.no.no.spam> skrev i meddelandet
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> Eric Mendoza wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a book/books which list the descendants of Gustav
> > I, King of Sweden. Several groups list the heirs of the line;
> > however, my interests are the heirs of the line and the senior male
> > representative of the daughters of the Swedish kings during the period
> > 1523-1818. Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.
>
> Oldest daughter: Katarina Gustafsdotter - married to Count Edzard II of
> Ostfriesland. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be Moritz,
> Landgrave of Hesse (b. 1926)
>
> Second daghter: Cäcilie Gustafsdotter - married Margrave Christoph II of
> Baden-Rodemarchern. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be
> Archduchess Margherita of Austria, née Princess of Savoy, b. 1930.
>
> Third daughter: Anna Maria Gustafsdotter - married Pfalzgraf Georg
> Johann I of Veldenz. Male line and all other lines extinct.
>
> Fourth daughter: Sofia Gustafsdotter - married Duke Magnus II of
> Saxe-Lauenburg. Male line extinct. Heir of line seems to be someone in
> the Swedish nobility, since their son Duke Gustav of Saxe-Lauenburg only
> had one illegitimate son who was ennobled in Sweden as Gustaf Gustafsson
> Rutencrantz. (UN General Secretary Dag Hammarskiöld was one of their
> descendants.)

Gustaf of Saxe-Lauenburg had four documented children by a swedish noble
lady, Anna Lillie,
The children were:
1: Magnus Gustafsson Rutencrantz, b.1594, d.1640
2: Knut Gustafsson Rutencrantz, b. 1595, d.young
3: Gustaf Gustafsson Rutencrantz, b.1596, d.1620
4: Birgitta Gustafsdotter Rutencrantz, b.1597

Magnus and Gustaf were officers in the Swedish army. They married on to the
swedish nobilty and they have decendents in the female line.

> Fifth daughter: Elisabeth Gustafsdotter - married Duke Christof of
> Mecklenburg-Schwerin. No sons. Heir of line seems to be Friedrich, 8th
> Furst zu Wied (b. 1961)
>
> For a good online genealogy source, see Leo van de Pas'
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00014929&tree=LEO
>
> Regards
> Frank H. Johansen

Regards
Johan


Eric Mendoza

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May 24, 2004, 5:07:36 PM5/24/04
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Please accept my thanks for the replies and helpful suggestions
regarding the Vasa heirs. A member of the forwarded (privately) a
detailed listing of the descendants of Gustaf I Vasa. It will take me
some time to review the information as it runs to over 700 pages!
Thanks again. Eric

Michaėl Lehman

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Jun 1, 2004, 5:27:59 PM6/1/04
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Paul Meijer Granqvist's genealogical works are not always reliable. His
book »Gustaf Vasas avkomlingar inom och utom Sverige» is furthermore not
very detailed.

_____________
Michaėl Lehman
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Michaėl Lehman

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Jun 1, 2004, 5:33:34 PM6/1/04
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In addition to this I can say, that I have made a genealogical table showing
the descend of all European hereditary monarchs from the Swedish King Gustav
I. I will have this genealogical table printed soon.


_____________
Michaël Lehman


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