Loukas Notaras - Grand Duke

[Dr. George Tsambourakis]

According to my records:

Loukas Notaras (killed by the Turks in 1453), married
a "Palaiologos" Lady.
What was her name and who were her parents?

They had four daughters and three sons.
1. Anna Notaras (born ca 1410; died 8 Jul 1507 in Venice).
Not married, No children.
2. Theodora. She married Andronikos Palaiologos,
Grand Domestic. Was he Manuel II's son and brother
of the last Emperor Konstantinos XI? the Despot of Thessalonika?
3. Euphrosyne (d. ca 1490). Married whom?
4. Daughter 4. What was her name?? She married Kantakouzinos's son.
Who were Kantakouzinos's parents? They had a daughter Eudokia who
married Mathew Spandounis (d. 1511) ( a professional soldier).
They had a son Theodore Spandounis
5. Isaac, (b. ca 1439; died ca 1491). his youngest and only
son to survive married Eizabeth Zampetis. Who was she
and who were her parents?

Anna also calls Dimitrios-Assen Belgum her nephew.
Who were his parents? He must have been the grandson of Ivan III-Assen,
and her nephew from her mother site.

I hope somebody shares my interest in this family.

regards

--
Dr. George Tsambourakis
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[John Hamby]

Here is what I have.
It is rather little but it contradicts what you have.
Source is Europaische Stammtafeln Band II T.181

Theodoros Kantakuzenos m ?
1. Georgios (d. 1459) m(1424) dau of Thomas Palaiologos Gidos
1a. Theodoros
1b. Manuel Governor of Mani m(1453) Maria
no issue
1c. Thomas governor of Selymbria d unm.
1d. Demetrios M. Simonis Gadelina
1d1. Maria M(1486) Theodoros Palaiologos
1e. daughter m. Georgios Rhallis of Korfu
1f. daughter m. Nikolaos Palaiologos
1g. Zoe(d. 1463) m(1444) Jacde de flory Count of Jaffa
~>line of Cantacuzene de Flory
1h. Anna(d. 1476) m(1455) Vladislav Duke of Hl.Slava (not sure
what this is sorry)
1i. Eudokia (she is attributed as the _possible_ daughter --
not definite)
m. Matthaios Spandunes

2.Andronikos m. ?
2a. Ioannes m. daughter of Lukas Notaras

John Hamby

[Dr. George Tsambourakis]

Thanks,

I have to read it and digest it before I reply.

One think may be of interest to some

> 1e. daughter m. Georgios Rhallis of Korfu

Rhallis, now called Rallis are the ancestors of RAUL (of Raulina fame)

regards

[Dr. George Tsambourakis]

> Here is what I have.
> It is rather little but it contradicts what you have.
> Source is Europaische Stammtafeln Band II T.181

I tried very hard to link the names but I was unable to do so.
My guess is that who ever did write the Stammtafeln was in a hurry and did
not read all documents available, for example: Anna Notaras will.
You will find that the information I presented is EXTREMELY accurate.
The only point of disagreement with Stammtafeln is the marriage of
Spandounis.

Matthew Spandounis married Eudokia Kantakouzinos,
they had a son, Theodor Spandounis.
Matthew Spandounis was a professional Soldier,
they got married before 1460, and Matthew died just before 1511.
Matthew parents are unknown to me.
Eudokia Kantakouzinos her Aunty Anna Notaras and her husband
were very heavily involved in promoting Greek and the Greek Church in
Venice.
Eudokia was the daughter of John(?) Kantakouzinos, from a daughter
of Loukas Notaras (Her mother was Anna's Sister.

Anna, in her will, left some money to her uncle "Demetrios Assen". She left
nothing to her Sister in law Elizabeth and her family (Isaacs wife), etc.
My questions remain: Who was Demetrios Assen, etc

> Theodoros Kantakuzenos m ?

Who is this Theodoros???

> 1. Georgios (d. 1459) m(1424) dau of Thomas Palaiologos Gidos
> 1a. Theodoros
> 1b. Manuel Governor of Mani m(1453) Maria
> no issue
> 1c. Thomas governor of Selymbria d unm.
> 1d. Demetrios M. Simonis Gadelina
> 1d1. Maria M(1486) Theodoros Palaiologos

> 1e. daughter m. Georgios Rhallis of Korfu

> 1f. daughter m. Nikolaos Palaiologos
> 1g. Zoe(d. 1463) m(1444) Jacde de flory Count of Jaffa
> ~>line of Cantacuzene de Flory
> 1h. Anna(d. 1476) m(1455) Vladislav Duke of Hl.Slava (not sure
> what this is sorry)
> 1i. Eudokia (she is attributed as the _possible_ daughter --
> not definite)
> m. Matthaios Spandunes
>
> 2.Andronikos m. ?
> 2a. Ioannes m. daughter of Lukas Notaras
>
>
> John Hamby
>
>

Dr. George Tsambourakis

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