Murdac
Sutliff
even in Marshall or Whitmore. I have three female Murdacs of unknown and
uncertain relationship to each other:
Hawise de Murdac. Wife of Robert de Stuteville of Lazenby, Cumberland
and mother of Hawise de Stuteville, wife of Hugh de Morville (d. 1202)
of Burgh-by-Sands, Cumberland.
Alice de Murdac, sister of Ralph de Murdac. Wife of John Deincourt (d. 6
Nov 1183) of Blankney, Lincolnshire.
Juliana de Murdac. Wife of Thurstan de Montfort (d. bef. 1190) and
mother of Henry de Montfort (d. 1199), ancestor to the Montforts of
Beaudesert, Warwickshire.
Any clarification or extension is appreciated.
Henry Sutliff
Kay Allen AG
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> Can anyone help on the Murdac family? I can find almost nothing on them,
> even in Marshall or Whitmore. I have three female Murdacs of unknown and
> uncertain relationship to each other:
>
> Hawise de Murdac. Wife of Robert de Stuteville of Lazenby, Cumberland
> and mother of Hawise de Stuteville, wife of Hugh de Morville (d. 1202)
> of Burgh-by-Sands, Cumberland.
I just have her as plain Hawise.
>
> Alice de Murdac, sister of Ralph de Murdac. Wife of John Deincourt (d. 6
> Nov 1183) of Blankney, Lincolnshire.
2. Ralph Murdac.
3. Beatrice de Chesney.
4. Ralph Murdac.
6. Ralph de Chesney.
7. Alice de Langtot.
8. Robert Fitz Meurdrac.
12. Ralph Chesney.
13. Maud Watville.
14. Ralph de Langtot.
16. Meurdrac.
MGH has an article on Murdacs. I will try to find the exact citation.
26.William Watville.
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> Juliana de Murdac. Wife of Thurstan de Montfort (d. bef. 1190) and
> mother of Henry de Montfort (d. 1199), ancestor to the Montforts of
> Beaudesert, Warwickshire.
2. Geoffrey Murdac.
I believe CP is the source for this. Somewhere in the back of my mind,
I seem to remember that she was burned for murdering her husband. This
is not definite :-)
Kay Allen AG
P. Freeman
ss...@earthlink.net (Sutliff) wrote:
>Can anyone help on the Murdac family? I can find almost nothing on them,
>even in Marshall or Whitmore. I have three female Murdacs of unknown and
>uncertain relationship to each other:
>
.. <snip> ...
Can't help with the 3 names given, but ..
>Any clarification or extension is appreciated.
[1] Henry Murdac, Archbishop of York 1147 – 1153
(Consecrated December 1147; obiit 14 Oct 1153)
[2] In the Pipe Roll for Michaelmas 1166 is an entry under the
Yorkshire account, for Harthill wapentake :
"Everwich’scr’ – In Wap[entaco] de Hertle.
... Baldri de Drouton deb’ .I. m.
** Rob’ Murdac deb’ xx s.
Gaufr’ de Brentinkeha’ deb’ .I. m.
Rog’ de Ricebi deb’ .I. m.
Thom’ fil’ Hereuui deb’ .I. m.
Iuo de Burton deb’ .II. m.
Thom’ de Arel deb’ .I. m.
Pag’ de Daltun deb’ .I. m.
Turstin’ Crispin deb’ .I. m.
Durand’ de Hodum deb’ .I. m.
Walt’ de Hugate deb’ .xx s.
Gaufr’ de Hugate deb’ .I. m.
Rog’ de Rudestein deb’ .I. m.
Rogin’ de Niwetun deb’ .I. m.
Wido de Gruuill deb’ .I. m.
Pag’ de Gildusdala deb’ .I. m.
Hug’ fil Alsi de Caue deb’ .V. m.
Isti s[un]t in m[isercord]ia p[ro] ho[min]e q[u]i fug’ p[ro] alia asisa
[et] rediit [et] n[on] monst[r]auer[un]t. Justic’.”
(Pipe Roll 12 Henry II, p.48 : Eyre of Earl Geoffrey de Mandeville and
Richard de Luci the Justiciar.)
The name of Murdac occurs in the Pipe Rolls, Curia Regis Rolls (& Rot. Cur. Regis)
and elsewhere in connection with East Yorkshire in the reigns of
Henry II - John; but I only took note of it a couple a times when it occurred
in connection with my area of interest.
You might well find the name Murdac in the indexes to the volumes of
Early Yorkshire Charters.
Regards
Peter Freeman
University of Leeds
Richard Borthwick
If Henry's original letter re Murdac was posted to the group then I seem to
have missed it. The result is that I don't know the names of those about
whom he was enquiring. There is, however, a good coverage of some Murdacs
in Farrer's *Honours and Knights' Fees* vols.II & especially III.