BOURCHIER, Mary- daughter of Sir John BOURCHIER- wife of Jabez WHITAKER (1596- before 1628)
Kelly Paul Graham
I am looking for the lineage and location of Mary BOURCHIER who
married Jabez WHITAKER
and was the mother of William WHITAKER (1617-1672). I was sent email that
suggests that Mary BOURCHIER
descends from Edward III through his son Thomas, Duke of Gloucester. But
where did the name "BOURCHIER"
come from and when did it arrive in England ? (I'm assuming it's French).
Kelly Paul Graham
Dcrdcr4
You can find the royal and noble ancestry of Mary Bourchier, wife of Jabez
Whittaker, set forth in the 2nd edition of the book, Plantagenet Ancestry, and
in the new book, Magna Carta Ancestry, written by myself and David Faris. If
all goes according to schedule, these books will be published simultaneously in
about 2 or 3 months by Genealogical Publishing Company (GPC) of Baltimore,
Maryland. I revised the Bourchier line for the new Plantagenet book and added
new documentation and an important correction. The name appears to have
originally been spelled Bourghchier and eventually evolved into Bourchier. I
understand the name was pronounced like Bow-sher, and sometimes it is spelled
that way in the records. In any case, you will want to get these books when
they become available.
All for now. Sincerely, Douglas Richardson
ED MANN
>
> I am looking for the lineage and location of Mary BOURCHIER who
> married Jabez WHITAKER
> and was the mother of William WHITAKER (1617-1672).
Direct Descendants of John de Bourchier
1 Sir John de Bourchier aka: John de Burcer b: Abt. 1279 ref #:
BxP:65
+Helen de Colchester b: Abt. 1284 ref #: BxP:65
2 Sir Robert de Bourchier aka: 1st Lord Bourchier b: Abt. 1300 d:
1349 ref #: (Ä155A-31)
+Margaret de Prayers b: Abt. 1300 ref #: (Ä155A-31)
3 William de Bourchier d: 1375 ref #: (Ä155A-31)
+Alainor de Lovaine b: 27 Mar 1345 d: 5 Oct 1397 ref #: Ä155A-31
4 Sir William Bourchier aka: Earl of Ewe d: 28 May 1420 ref #:
Ä155A-32
+Anne Plantagenet aka: Countess of Buckingham b: Apr 1383 d: 16
Oct 1438 ref #: F159:8
5 Sir John Bourchier aka: Lord Berners d: May 1474 ref #: F159:7
+Margery Berners d: 18 Dec 1475
6 Sir Humphrey Bourchier d: 14 Apr 1471 ref #: F159:6
+Elizabeth Tilney d: 4 Apr 1497 ref #: Ä136-34
7 [1] Sir John Bourchier aka: 2d Lord Berners b: Abt. 1467 d: 19 Mar
1532/33 ref #: F159:6i
*2nd Wife of [1] John Bourchier:
+Elizabeth Bacon
8 James Bourchier ref #: W73-11
+Mary Banister
9 [2] Sir Ralph Bourchier d: Aft. 1583 ref #: W73-12
+Elizabeth Hall ref #: F33:2
10 Sir John Bourchier b: Aft. 1563 ref #: F33:1
+Elizabeth
11 Mary Bourchier b: Abt. 1598 ref #: F33:1i
*2nd Wife of [2] Ralph Bourchier:
> I was sent email that suggests that Mary BOURCHIER
> descends from Edward III through his son Thomas, Duke of Gloucester.
1 King Edward III of England b: 13 Nov 1312 d: 21 Jun 1377 ref #:
F229:12
+Philippa de Hainault b: 24 Jun 1311 d: 15 Aug 1369 ref #:
Ä103-34
2 Sir Thomas Plantagenet aka: Duke of Gloucester b: 7 Jan 1354/55 d:
Sep 1397 ref #: F158:9
+Alianore de Bohun b: Abt. 1366 d: 3 Oct 1399 ref #: W18-8
3 [1] Anne Plantagenet aka: Countess of Buckingham b: Apr 1383 d: 16
Oct 1438 ref #: F159:8
*2nd Husband of [1] Anne Plantagenet:
*3rd Husband of [1] Anne Plantagenet:
+Sir William Bourchier aka: Earl of Ewe d: 28 May 1420 ref #:
Ä155A-32
4 Sir John Bourchier aka: Lord Berners d: May 1474 ref #: F159:7
+Margery Berners d: 18 Dec 1475
5 Sir Humphrey Bourchier d: 14 Apr 1471 ref #: F159:6
+Elizabeth Tilney d: 4 Apr 1497 ref #: Ä136-34
6 [2] Sir John Bourchier aka: 2d Lord Berners b: Abt. 1467 d: 19 Mar
1532/33 ref #: F159:6i
*2nd Wife of [2] John Bourchier:
+Elizabeth Bacon
7 James Bourchier ref #: W73-11
+Mary Banister
8 [3] Sir Ralph Bourchier d: Aft. 1583 ref #: W73-12
+Elizabeth Hall ref #: F33:2
9 Sir John Bourchier b: Aft. 1563 ref #: F33:1
+Elizabeth
10 Mary Bourchier b: Abt. 1598 ref #: F33:1i
*2nd Wife of [3] Ralph Bourchier:
--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
Π= Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]
Dcrdcr4
In your recent posting on the Bourchier family, you erred in stating that John
Bourchier, 2nd Lord Berners, had a second wife named Elizabeth Bacon. He had
only one wife, Katherine Howard, who Complete Peerage shows survived him, by
whom he had three legitimate daughters. His will also indicates that he had
three bastard sons, Humphrey, James, and George. There was also a bastard
daughter, Ursula. The immigrant, Mary Bourchier, wife of Jabez Walker,
descends from the bastard son, James.
Various sources claim that John Bourchier's bastard children were by a woman
named Elizabeth Bacon. However, this is surely an error, as Chancery
Proceedings prove that this was the name of his bastard son's, Humphrey's wife!
As such, the identity of the mother of John Bourchier's bastard children,
including his son, James, is presently unknown. But, whoever she was, the
woman was NOT John Bourchier's 2nd wife.
All for now. Hastily, Douglas Richardson
ED MANN
My source of the name Elizabeth Bacon is a note between W73-10 and
W73-11, which says, referring to Sir John, that, "By a concubine,
Elizabeth Bacon, he had other, illegitimate, issue, _prob._ including
No. 11."
As far as the "wife" note goes, this is a limitation in Family TreeMaker
which refers to any mother as a wife and doesn't allow differentiating
nonmarital parentage.
I got a flier today from GPC for the 5th ed. of Magna Charta Sureties;
perhaps that's been updated.
--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
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References: W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
ED MANN
>
> In a message dated 02/22/1999 3:52:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> EDL...@MAIL2.LCIA.COM writes:
>
> > As far as the "wife" note goes, this is a limitation in Family TreeMaker
> > which refers to any mother as a wife and doesn't allow differentiating
> > nonmarital parentage.
> >
> will not call them a wife.
Good call - thanks!