Family of Lascelles : marriages C14th/15th?
P. Freeman
of the 15th century wherein is a description of
the Lascelles (of Yorkshire?) coat of arms, and
a partial pedigree of the 14th/15th centuries.
One of the quarterings of the coat of arms is
given as the arms of Rudston (argent, 3 bulls heads sable)
but the pedigree shows very few of the marriages.
Has anyone got the marriages for the main line of
the Lascelles from 1200 to 1500? And is there a
match to a Rudston in there anywhere?
Regards
Peter Freeman
University of Leeds
James Barker
Rudston does not appear to be in record of the Lascelles, Earls of
Harewood family.
Sir Egerton Brydges' edition of Collins Peerage of England, London,
1812, p. 508, begins the "Lascelles, Lord Harewood" line with John de
Lascelles of Hinderskelfe (now Castle Howard) who held lands 1315. by
Johanna his wife he left son and heir;
John de Lascelles, alias Jackson, living 1492, no wife named, son &
heir:
William de Lascelles, living 1428, no wife mentioned, had:
William de Lascelles, alias Jackson,no wife mentioned, father of:
William Lascelles, alias Jackson, "of Gawthorpe" [Yorkshire] no date or
wife mentioned, son & heir:
Robert Lascelles, alias Jackson, "of Gawthorpe and Engholme-Grange in
the parish of Hovingham com. York", died 4&5 Philip & Mary, by wife Mary
Newport had:
Thomas Lascelles, of Gawthorpe & Englkehome-Grange, d. 1618, wed
Margery, dau. of Sir William St. Quinton,..
B urke's Peerage, 1885, p. 671, cites Brydges as source for its
account, there may be more nuptial details in Cokayne or elsewhere. Or
there may, of course be a clue in the new estates acquired by succesive
generations although it is not like Brydges to miss an heiress...
Possibly of interest is Brydges' footnote on p. 508: "There was a
Baronial family of this name, [Lascelles] and seated in this county
[Yorkshire]. Roger de Lascelles received summons among the Peers, as
Edw. I. See Dugd. Bar, vol. ii p. 6."
Brydges gives the Lascelles arms as" "Sable, a cross patonce within a
border, or."
Good hunting! JB
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1480-1500, and it has a LASCELLES pedigree in it. It begins with a Lord
Richard LASSELS of Escrick (E. Riding, Yorkshire). the main line here goes
from Richard to his son Lord John LASSELS to his son Ralph(note: none of the
rest of the pedigree has the males as LORDS) who married Joan BURDET. They had
a son Ralph, who married Matilda CONSTABLE, d/o Lord CONSTABLE(does not give
name). Ralph and Matilda had Walter, who married Agnes ROCLIFFE, d/o Lord
Richard ROCLIFFE. Walter and Agnes had a son Walter, who married a daughter of
John EYLAND. This Walter had a son William, whose will was proved Sept 4 1416.
This pedigree goes on for 3 more generations, and has the sibling for all the
different generations. If this seems to be what ya want, email me and I can
send ya the rest of it. I did not see any RUDSON in this pedigree at all, or
anywhere in the book.
P. Freeman
That's the one. The Visitation gives the Lascelles coat of arms, and the
8th (?) quartering is 3 bulls heads (etc). A footnote to the pedigree says
this is Rudston, but I can't see the connection. This branch of the Lascelles
looks like a junior branch, however, and so the two families could have been
socially about equal.
The only indirect connections seem to be the location - both families are in
and of the East Riding during this time - and through the family of Rocliffe.
There is a possible connection between the Rudston and Rocliffe families in
the late 15h century.
There remains the possibility that the editor of Surtees 144, faced with an
indistinct representation of the coat of arms, has simply hazarded a guess.
Virginia
> One of the Surtees Society volumes has a Visitation
> of the 15th century wherein is a description of
> the Lascelles (of Yorkshire?) coat of arms, and
> a partial pedigree of the 14th/15th centuries.
>
> One of the quarterings of the coat of arms is
> given as the arms of Rudston (argent, 3 bulls heads sable)
> but the pedigree shows very few of the marriages.
>
> Has anyone got the marriages for the main line of
> the Lascelles from 1200 to 1500? And is there a
> match to a Rudston in there anywhere?
>
>
> Peter Freeman
> University of Leeds
danas...@gmail.com
steph...@gmail.com
> I thought the Jackson name was assumed by Sir William de Lascelles (who was married to Lady Elizabeth Barnby) sometime around 1405. Have I got that wrong? (I'm a direct line Jackson descendent through Isaac Jackson, a direct descendent of Sir William. We think Isaac Jackson emigrated to the States some time in the late 1680s or early 1690s. I.J. was married to Jane Gullocke of Virginia).
emilya...@gmail.com
I am new to this but traced my lineage back to Sir Anthony Jackson, William de Lascelles II, and Lady Isabel Elizabeth Barnby. Is there anyone who knows where I might find sources or records to learn more about these people further?
I have also been reading that some lines are being called into question in this family, but it was unclear why. Thanks to anyone who has more information.
