Mary Mainwaring 1541-bef. 1578

[Ralph Troop]

Gentlefolk:

I have a Mary Mainwaring, 1541-bef. 1578; m. Richard Cotton, abt
1540-1602.

Richard Cotton is descended from John Cotton and Cecily Mainwaring.
Cecily Mainwaring is descended from Randall Mainwaring through,
William and Thomas

Is this Mary Mainwaring part of the Randall Mainwaring clan and if so,
how?

I would also like to know if Mary Mainwaring is the mother of Francis
Cotton who married George Abell. I've seen Francis' mother listed as
Jane Seyliard, another wife of Richard Cotton.

Thank you, Ralph Troop

[John Steele Gordon]

Ralph Troop wrote:

> Gentlefolk:
>
> I have a Mary Mainwaring, 1541-bef. 1578; m. Richard Cotton, abt
> 1540-1602.
>
> Richard Cotton is descended from John Cotton and Cecily Mainwaring.
> Cecily Mainwaring is descended from Randall Mainwaring through,
> William and Thomas
>
> Is this Mary Mainwaring part of the Randall Mainwaring clan and if so,
> how?

According to Faris, Mary Mainwaring is descended from John Mainwaring,
brother of Cecily.

> I would also like to know if Mary Mainwaring is the mother of Francis
> Cotton who married George Abell. I've seen Francis' mother listed as
> Jane Seyliard, another wife of Richard Cotton.

Life-ain't-easy-for-a-boy-named-Sue dept.: it's Frances, not Francis. Again,
according to Faris, she is "daughter, evidently, by the first marriage, . . ."
Richard Cotton's second wife, Jane Sulliard (as Faris spells it), was the
mother of a daughter also named Jane.

He cites The Genealogist Vol. 5 (1984), pp. 158-171 for "evidence that Frances
was daughter of first marriage."

John Steele Gordon

[ED MANN]

Ralph Troop wrote:
>
> Gentlefolk:
>
> I have a Mary Mainwaring, 1541-bef. 1578; m. Richard Cotton, abt
> 1540-1602.
>
> Richard Cotton is descended from John Cotton and Cecily Mainwaring.
> Cecily Mainwaring is descended from Randall Mainwaring through,
> William and Thomas

Can't confirm further back than William.

>
> Is this Mary Mainwaring part of the Randall Mainwaring clan and if so,
> how?

Descendants of Randall Mainwaring

1 Sir Randall Mainwaring b: Abt. 1495 d: 6 Sep 1557 ref #: F208:4
+Elizabeth Brereton ref #: (Ä56A-41)
2 Margaret Mainwaring b: Abt. 1521 d: Bef. 1590 ref #: F208:4i
+Sir Arthur Mainwaring b: Abt. 1520 d: 4 Sep 1590 ref #: F181:3
3 Mary Mainwaring b: Abt. 1541 d: Bef. 14 Jun 1578 ref #: F181:3i
+Richard Cotton b: Abt. 1541 d: 14 Jun 1602 ref #: F1:2
*2nd Wife of Randall Mainwaring:
+Elizabeth Leycester

> I would also like to know if Mary Mainwaring is the mother of Francis
> Cotton who married George Abell. I've seen Francis' mother listed as
> Jane Seyliard, another wife of Richard Cotton.

Descendants of Mary Mainwaring

1 Mary Mainwaring b: Abt. 1541 d: Bef. 14 Jun 1578 ref #: F181:3i
+Richard Cotton b: Abt. 1541 d: 14 Jun 1602 ref #: F1:2
2 Frances Cotton b: Abt. 1573 d: Bef. 16 Apr 1646 ref #: F1:1
+George Abell b: Abt. 1561 d: 1630 ref #: (Ä56A-43)
3 Mary Abell b: Abt. 1600 d: Aft. 1645 ref #: F1:1i
3 George Abell b: Abt. 1602 ref #: F1:1ii
+Mary Stanford
3 Robert Abell b: Abt. 1605 d: 20 Jun 1663 ref #: F1:1iii
+Joanna ref #: AAP:193
3 Richard Abell b: Abt. 1610 ref #: F1:1iv

--
FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.

Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com

References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]

[Reedpcgen]

>He cites The Genealogist Vol. 5 (1984), pp. 158-171 for "evidence that

>Frances<BR>
>was daughter of first marriage."<BR>
><BR>

This would be Neil Thompson's article on the Abell-Cotton-Manwaring ancestry,
much of which is based on the Morris Collection of Shropshire families, an
excellent and careful series available on microfilm from the FHL which anyone
with Shropshire gentry ancestry should check.

pcr

[Paul Mackenzie]

This is rather a longshot, and not really medieval, but do you have
any information on the following people

1. John Mainwaring m Mary Marrimer
2. John Mainwaring (b1759-d1823 Farnham Surrey) m Elizabeth
(b 1762 Bentley Hants d 1812 Farnham Surrey)
3. Mary Mainwaring (b1786 Farnham Surrey d1861 Farnham Surrey)
m Philip Chitty (b1783-d1831 Farnham Surrey)

Regards Paul

[Todd A. Farmerie]

> > Ralph Troop wrote:
> > >
> > > I would also like to know if Mary Mainwaring is the mother of Francis
> > > Cotton who married George Abell. I've seen Francis' mother listed as
> > > Jane Seyliard, another wife of Richard Cotton.

As someone else pointed out, the solution to the problem was presented
by Thompson in his _The Genealogist_ article. It is basically an
argument by elimintation. I am a little fuzzy on the details (its been
years), but if I recall correctly, the children of the first wife were
named in the will of her father(?), and the children of the third wife
were named in her own will. Frances is named in neither of these, and
thus is presumed to be daughter of the second wife, Mary Mainwaring. (I
may have the fine details confused here, but you get the idea.) It is
solid work.

taf