C.P. Correction: Juliane (living 1299), wife of Sir Ralph de Wilington, Knt., was not a Lomene heiress

[Douglas Richardson]

Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage, 12(2) (1959): 645–646 (sub Wilington) has a good
account of the Wilington family of Devon and Gloucestershire. This
family is ancestral to various West County families included Hill
family of Exeter, Devon and Houndston (in Odcombe), Somerset; Luttrell
of Dunster, Somerset; Daubeney of South Petherton, Somerset; and the
later Greys who were Marquesses of Dorset.

Complete Peerage includes a discussion of Sir Ralph de Willington,
Knt., of Umberleigh (in Atherington), Devon, Keeper of Lundy Island,
who died before 15 October 1294. Regarding his marriage, the
following information is provided:

"He married Juliane, said to be the daughter and apparently heiress of
Sir Richard de Lomene, of Uplowman, Devon ... Juliana was living in
June 1299, but was dead by 26 November 1313." END OF QUOTE.

In footnote d on page 646, the editor notes two fines by which the
lands of the Lomene family appear to have passed to the Wilington
family. However, no direct evidence is advanced that Juliane, wife of
Sir Ralph de Wilington, was actually a daughter of Sir Richard de
Lomene, of Uplowman, Gittisham, and Riddlecombe (in Ashreigney),
Devon.

Actually it would appear that the Lomene family lands passed by fine
not by inhertitance to the Wilington family. Research indicates that
Sir Richard de Lomene had one daughter and heiress, Christine de
Lomene, wife of Edmund de Wilington. Edmund de Wilington's place in
the Wilington family is not clear, but I believe that he was a younger
son (or possibly brother) of Sir Ralph de Wilington (died c. 1294),
who married Juliane. Edmund and Christine died childless, and, on the
death of Christine without issue, her lands passed to Edmund's
probable brother (or nephew), Henry de Wilington (died 1322).

For evidence that Juliane, wife of Sir Ralph de Wilington, was not the
daughter and co-heiress of Richard de Lomene, Knt., of Uplowman,
Gittisham, and Riddlecombe (in Ashreigney), Devon), please see the
Year Books of Edward III 6 (Rolls Ser. 31b) (1891): 254–257. The
published Year Books item include a short abstract of a lawsuit dated
1341, in which James Cokyngton sued for the Lomene manors of Gittisham
and Lomene Richard, Devon, as kinsman and heir of Christine Lomene,
widow of Edmund de Wilington. James Cokryngton's exact kinship to
Christine de Lomene is not stated.

A brief abstract of the lawsuit may be found at the following weblink:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jIEJAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA255

Christine de Lomene is specifically referred to be her maiden name in
this lawsuit.

Cristine de Lomene and Henry de Wilington are likewise mentioned in a
petition dated c.1322 by John de Chenduit, which record is found in
the National Archives database. Once again Christine de Lomene is
referred to by her maiden name in this record. In contrast, there is
no indication that Juliane, wife of Ralph de Willington, was ever
styled "de Lomene" in contemporary record or that she ever held any of
the Lomene lands.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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Source: National Archives
SC 8/97/4845

Record Summary

Scope and content

Petitioners: John de Cheyndut (Cheyndit).

Addressees: King and council.

Places mentioned: Lanteglos, [Cornwall]; Cornwall; Glamorgan.

Other people mentioned: Henry de Wylyngton (Willington); William de
Pasford, minister of Henry de Wylyngton (Willington); Christina de
Lomenc; Roger Dammory (Damory).
Nature of request: John de Cheyndut makes three complaints against
William de Pasford, minister of Henry de Wylyngton.

1) He states that Henry purchased the manor of Lanteglos, which now
ought to be the King's escheat, but that William is trying to deny the
King this escheat by producing a false charter made to one Christina
de Lomenc.
2) He states that William collected various sums for the King's
treasure when Henry was Sheriff of Cornwall and of Glamorgan, and kept
them for himself.
3) In a case involving the killing of the crew of a Spanish ship by
the crew of another ship, he let the malefactors go free, taking
certain wines from them.

Endorsement: Coram rege.

Covering dates [c. 1322]

Note Dated by Petitions Relating to Wales p.153 to 'c. 1321-early
1322' from the period when Henry de Wylyngton was Sheriff of
Glamorgan. However, the petition would seem to suggest that he is now
dead, and the reference to Roger Damory would seem to suggest a date
of c. 1322.
Held by
The National Archives, Kew

[Douglas Richardson]

On Jun 18, 8:23 pm, Douglas Richardson <royalances...@msn.com> wrote:

< For evidence that Juliane, wife of Sir Ralph de Wilington, was not
the
< daughter and co-heiress of Richard de Lomene, Knt., of Uplowman,
< Gittisham, and Riddlecombe (in Ashreigney), Devon), please see the
< Year Books of Edward III 6 (Rolls Ser. 31b) (1891): 254–257.  The
< published Year Books item include a short abstract of a lawsuit
dated
< 1341, in which James Cokyngton sued for the Lomene manors of
Gittisham
< and Lomene Richard, Devon, as kinsman and heir of Christine Lomene,
< widow of Edmund de Wilington.  James Cokryngton's exact kinship to
< Christine de Lomene is not stated.
<
< A brief abstract of the lawsuit may be found at the following
weblink:
<
<    http://books.google.com/books?id=jIEJAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA255
<
< Christine de Lomene is specifically referred to be her maiden name
in
< this lawsuit.

< Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

To be perfectly accurate, in the 1341 lawsuit, Christine de Lomene is
called "kinswoman" of James Cokyngton, and he is called her heir. In
my earlier post, I stated that James was called Christine's kinsman,
but it is the other way around.

DR