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C.P. Addition: Marriages of Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, Leicestershire (died 1322)
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Douglas Richardson
Apr 26, 2016, 3:33:21 PM4/26/16
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On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-6, Douglas Richardson wrote:
In a post yesterday in another thread, I stated that a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Michaelmas 1296 gave a better date for the marriage of Ralph Basset (died 1322), of Sapcote, Leicestershire, and his 2nd wife, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, than what is reported in Complete Peerage 2 (1912): 7 (sub Basset).
Here is what Complete Peerage actually says regarding this marriage:
"He [Ralph] married, 2ndly, shortly before 21 June 1295, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, of Peckforton, Horsley, &c., co. Chester." END OF QUOTE.
No source is given for this statement.
A review on contemporary records indicates that Ralph Basset was granted the marriage of Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, on 22 June 1295 [Reference: Cal. Patent Rolls, 1292-1301 (1895): 137]. Ralph and Margaret were subsequently reported to be married on 21 July 1295 [Reference: Cal. Close Rolls, 1288-1296 (1904): 417-418].
Thus a more complete statement than what Complete Peerage gave would be to say that Ralph Basset and his 2nd wife, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, were married after 22 June 1295 and before 21 July 1295.
Elsewhere I've located two Common Pleas lawsuits involving Ralph Basset and his 2nd wife, Margaret. In Michaelmas term 1296 Roger Alles, of Roucester, and Richard de Lynepol, executors of the will of Urian de Saint Pierre, and Ralph Basset and his wife, Margaret, co-executrix with the said Roger and Richard, sued Allen of Chester, Henry de Rolliston, Richard de Kynggisleye, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £285 6s. 8d. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/115, image 39f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no115/aCP40no115fronts/IMG_0039.htm). In the same term Joan, widow of Gilbert Haunsard, sued Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, and Margaret his wife in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the third part of one messuage and lands in Walton, Derbyshire, which she claimed in dower [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/115, image 52f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no115/aCP40no115fronts/IMG_0052.htm].
Thus, we see that Margaret, 2nd wife of Ralph Basset, was living at Michaelmas term 1296. It would appear, however, that Margaret did not long survive this date.
In recent time I determined that Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, married (3rd) before Hilary term 1301 (date of lawsuit) Elizabeth _____. This extra marriage has been overlooked in all standard Basset sources that I've consulted such Complete Peerage cited above and Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 259-260.
Evidence for this additional marriage for Ralph Basset comes from a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Hilary term 1301, whereby Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, and his wife, Elizabeth, sued the Abbot of Holm Cultram in a Cumberland plea regarding a debt of £60 [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/136, image 7f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no136/aCP40no136fronts/IMG_0007.htm)].
In summary, the evidence shows that Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, Leicestershire, married (2nd) after 22 June 1295 and before 21 July 1295 Margaret ____, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre. Margaret was living at Michaelmas term 1296. Ralph Basset married (3rd) before Hilary term 1301 Elizabeth _____.
Insofar as the death date of Ralph Basset is concerned, Complete Peerage says only that he is "said to have died 1322." But an account of the Basset family in Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 259-260 states that he died in 1326. Neither authority gives a source for these dates.
The account of the Basset family in the Genealogist may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=_59IAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA260
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, Leicestershire, and his 1st wife, Elizabeth Coleville:
William Bladen, Charles Calvert, Henry Corbin, Henry and William Randolph, Mary Johanna Somerset.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
In a post yesterday in another thread, I stated that a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Michaelmas 1296 gave a better date for the marriage of Ralph Basset (died 1322), of Sapcote, Leicestershire, and his 2nd wife, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, than what is reported in Complete Peerage 2 (1912): 7 (sub Basset).
Here is what Complete Peerage actually says regarding this marriage:
"He [Ralph] married, 2ndly, shortly before 21 June 1295, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, of Peckforton, Horsley, &c., co. Chester." END OF QUOTE.
No source is given for this statement.
A review on contemporary records indicates that Ralph Basset was granted the marriage of Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, on 22 June 1295 [Reference: Cal. Patent Rolls, 1292-1301 (1895): 137]. Ralph and Margaret were subsequently reported to be married on 21 July 1295 [Reference: Cal. Close Rolls, 1288-1296 (1904): 417-418].
Thus a more complete statement than what Complete Peerage gave would be to say that Ralph Basset and his 2nd wife, Margaret, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre, were married after 22 June 1295 and before 21 July 1295.
Elsewhere I've located two Common Pleas lawsuits involving Ralph Basset and his 2nd wife, Margaret. In Michaelmas term 1296 Roger Alles, of Roucester, and Richard de Lynepol, executors of the will of Urian de Saint Pierre, and Ralph Basset and his wife, Margaret, co-executrix with the said Roger and Richard, sued Allen of Chester, Henry de Rolliston, Richard de Kynggisleye, and others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £285 6s. 8d. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/115, image 39f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no115/aCP40no115fronts/IMG_0039.htm). In the same term Joan, widow of Gilbert Haunsard, sued Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, and Margaret his wife in the Court of Common Pleas regarding the third part of one messuage and lands in Walton, Derbyshire, which she claimed in dower [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/115, image 52f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no115/aCP40no115fronts/IMG_0052.htm].
Thus, we see that Margaret, 2nd wife of Ralph Basset, was living at Michaelmas term 1296. It would appear, however, that Margaret did not long survive this date.
In recent time I determined that Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, married (3rd) before Hilary term 1301 (date of lawsuit) Elizabeth _____. This extra marriage has been overlooked in all standard Basset sources that I've consulted such Complete Peerage cited above and Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 259-260.
Evidence for this additional marriage for Ralph Basset comes from a Common Pleas lawsuit dated Hilary term 1301, whereby Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, and his wife, Elizabeth, sued the Abbot of Holm Cultram in a Cumberland plea regarding a debt of £60 [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/136, image 7f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E1/CP40no136/aCP40no136fronts/IMG_0007.htm)].
In summary, the evidence shows that Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, Leicestershire, married (2nd) after 22 June 1295 and before 21 July 1295 Margaret ____, widow of Urian de Saint Pierre. Margaret was living at Michaelmas term 1296. Ralph Basset married (3rd) before Hilary term 1301 Elizabeth _____.
Insofar as the death date of Ralph Basset is concerned, Complete Peerage says only that he is "said to have died 1322." But an account of the Basset family in Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 259-260 states that he died in 1326. Neither authority gives a source for these dates.
The account of the Basset family in the Genealogist may be viewed at the following weblink:
https://books.google.com/books?id=_59IAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA260
For interest's sake, the following is a list of the 17th Century New World immigrants that descend from Ralph Basset, of Sapcote, Leicestershire, and his 1st wife, Elizabeth Coleville:
William Bladen, Charles Calvert, Henry Corbin, Henry and William Randolph, Mary Johanna Somerset.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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