DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
PEhle...@aol.com
said to be the son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and Christian Bruce. Can
someone furnish me with the ancestors of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and/or
Christian Bruce. Thank you so very much. Happy Holidays.
Phyllis in Louisiana
ray montgomery
it appears you have the ancestry of isabell STewart which is some thing i
do not have
do you know who her parents are????
Gratneys parents are Donald Earl of mar and Ellen Verch Llewelyn
I will send you a gedcom of what else i have if you are interested
Sincerely
RAY
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PEhle...@aol.com writes:
>
> I have Donald, 8th Earl of Mar as the first husband of Isabel Stewart. He
> is
> said to be the son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and Christian Bruce. Can
> someone furnish me with the ancestors of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and/or
> Christian Bruce. Thank you so very much. Happy Holidays.
>
> Phyllis in Louisiana
>
>
Descendants of Ruadri de Mar
1 Ruadri de Mar
2 Morgund de Mar
3 Duncan de Mar d: 1244
4 William de Mar
.. +Elizabeth Comyn
5 Donald de Mar d: Aft. 1297
.. +Helen verch Llewelyn
6 Isabel de Mar d: 1297
.. +Robert I Bruce, King of Scotland\\ b: 11-Jul-1274 Whittle, nr Chelmsford,
ESS, ENG d: 7-Jun-1329 Cardross, Dumbartonshire, SCT
7 Marjorie de Bruce b: Bef. 1297 d: 2-Mar-1315/16 Paisley, Renfrewshire
.. +Walter Stewart b: 1292 d: 9-Apr-1327
6 Gratney de Mar d: Bef. 1305
.. +Christiana de Bruce d: Abt. 1357
7 Donald de Mar d: 12-Aug-1332 Dupplin
.. +Isabel Stewart
7 Ellen de Mar d: Aft. 1341
.. +John Menteith, Sir d: Abt. 1344
6 Marjery de Mar
.. +John de Strathbogie d: 1306
7 David de Strabogli d: 1326
.. +Joan Comyn d: Bef. 1326
7 Isabella de Strabogli d: Bef. 1317
.. +Edward de Bruce d: 1318
Always optimistic--Dave
KWhi...@aol.com
Ky in Houston
AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR ELLEN MAR [OF Mar]
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1st GENERATION
1 Ellen MAR [of Mar]-2701: d Aft 1342
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2nd GENERATION
2 Gratney MAR [7th Earl of Mar]-2703: b 1272 Kildrummy
Castle,Aberdeenshire,Scotland; d Bef 1305
3 Christian BRUCE-2707: b Abt 1273 Seton,East Lothian,Scotland;
d 1357
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3rd GENERATION
4 Donald MAR [6th Earl of Mar]-2713: m Abt 1275 ; d Abt 1297
5 Ellen FERCH LLEWELYN-1209: b Abt 1234 Caernarvonshire,Wales
6 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]-2705: b Jul 1243 ; m 1271
; d Bef 4 Apr 1304 7 Margaret de CARRICK [Countess Of
Carrick]-2706: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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------------------
4th GENERATION
8 William MAR [5th Earl of Mar]-2739: d Abt 1281
9 Elizabeth COMYN [of Mar]-2737: d 1267
10 Llewelyn Fawr 'the Great' AP IORWERTH [Prince Of North
Wales]-2718: b 1173 Wales; d 11 Apr 1240
11 Tangwystl FERCH LLYWARCH GOCH-5217: b Abt 1168
Denbigshire,Wales
12 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]-3020: b 1210
; m May 1240 ; d 31 Mar 1295
13 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]-3018: b 2 Nov 1226 ; d Aft
1254
14 Neil de CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]-3017: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
15 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]-3007
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------------
5th GENERATION
16 Sir Duncan MAR [4th Earl of Mar]-2740: d Abt 1243
18 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]-2738: m Abt 1214 ; d 1233
19 Marjory MARGARET [Countess Buchan]-4380: d Abt 1242/1244
20 Iorwerth Drwyndwn AP OWAIN-5228
21 Marared FERCH MADOG-7074
22 Llywarch Goch AP IORWERTH [Lord Of Rhos]-970
24 Robert the Noble BRUCE [1st Lord Annandale]-3021: m Abt 1205
; d 1245
25 Isabel HUNTINGDON [of Huntingdon]-3022: b 1206 ; d 1251
Saltre Abbey,Gloucester,England
26 Gilbert de CLARE [1st Earl Of Gloucester]-3019: b Abt 1180 ;
m 9 Oct 1214 Tewkesbury,Gloucester; d 25 Oct
1230
27 Isabel MARSHAL [of Pembroke]-5451: b 9 Oct 1200 Castle
Pembroke,Wales; d 15 Jan 1239/1240 Berkhamsted
Castle,Hertfordshire,England
28 Duncan de CARRICK [1st Earl Carrick]-4665: b Abt 1170 ; m
1200 ; d 13 Jun 1250
29 Aveline FITZ-ALAN [of Carrick]-3699
30 Walter STEWART [3rd High Stewart]-2901: m Abt 1223 ;
,Scotland; d 1241
31 Beatrix ANGUS [Countess Of Angus]-3002: b Bef 1200
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----------------------
6th GENERATION
32 Sir Morgund MAR [2nd Earl of Mar]-2741: b Bef 1125 ; d
1182/1183
33 Agnes-2742
36 Richard COMYN-4355: m Abt 1145 ; d Abt 1176/1182
37 Hextilda-4356
38 Fergus SON OF ROGER [Earl of Buchan]-4381: d Abt 1200/1211
40 Owain Gwynedd AP GRUFFUDD [King Of Gwynedd]-5229: b Bef 1085
; d 1169
41 Gwladus FERCH LLYWARCH [Princess Of Powys]-1010
42 Madog AP MAREDUDD [Prince Of Powys Fadog]-2418: d 1160
48 William de BRUS-3924: d 1215
49 Christina-3923
50 David de HUNTINGDON [Earl Of Huntingdon]-3025: b Abt 1144 ; m
26 Aug 1190 ; d 17 Jun 1219 Yardley,England
51 Maud KEVELIOK [of Chester]-3023: b 1171 ; d 1233
52 Richard de CLARE [3rd Earl Hertford]-5457: b Abt 1162 ; d Nov
1217
53 Amicia FITZ WILLIAM [Countess Gloucester]-5458: b Abt 1160 ;
d 1225
54 William MARSHAL [1st Earl of Pembroke]-5452: b Abt 1146 ; m
Aug 1189 London,England; d 14 May 1219
Caversham
55 Isabel de CLARE [4th of Pembroke]-5487: b Abt 1174 ; d 1220
56 Gilbert FITZ FERGUS [of Carrick]-4639: b Abt 1126
Carrick,Ayrshire,Scotland; d 1 Jan 1185
58 Alan FITZ WALTER [2nd High Stewart]-3009: b Aft 1180 ; d 1204
59 Eve-3695
60 Same as individual #58
61 Same as individual #59
62 Gilchrist ANGUS [3d Earl of Angus]-3003: b Bef 1180
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----------------------------
7th GENERATION
72 William COMYN-4361: d Bef 1140
73 Maud BANASTER-4360
74 Huctred [of Tynedale]-4357
75 Bethoc-4359
76 Roger SON OF COLBAN [Earl of Buchan]-4382: d Abt 1180/1185
80 Gruffudd AP CYNAN [King Of Gwynedd]-5230: b 1055 ; d 1137
81 Angharad FERCH OWAIN-8972
82 Llywarch AP TRAHAERN-2419: b Bef 1109 ; d Aft 1124
84 Maredudd AP BLEDDYN-2420: d 9 Feb 1132
85 Hunydd FERCH EINUDD-2421
96 Robert Le Meschin de BRUS [of Annandale]-4654: d 1194
97 Isabel Of SCOTLAND-4655
100 Henry [Earl Of Huntingdon]-3033: b 1115 ; m 1139 ; d 12 Jun
1152
101 Ada de WARENNE-3031: b Aft 1118 ; d 1178
102 Hugh de KEVELIOK [3rd Earl of Chester]-3024: b 1147 ; d 30
Jun 1181
103 Bertrade de MONTFORT-5769: b Abt 1155 ; d 1227
104 Roger the Good de CLARE [2nd Earl Hertford]-5462: b Aft 1115
; d 1173
105 Maude de ST. HILLARY-5463: d 1195
106 William FITZ ROBERT [3rd Earl of Leicester]-5459: m Abt 1150
; d 1183
107 Hawise de BEAUMONT-5493: b Abt 1130 ; d 1197
108 John Fitz Gilbert MARSHAL [The Marshal]-5501: m Abt 1145 ;
London,England; d Bef 29 Sep 1165
109 Sibyl de SALISBURY-5500
110 Richard Strongbow de CLARE [2nd Earl Of Pembroke]-5476: b Abt
1130 ; m 26 Aug 1171 Waterford,Ireland; d 20
Apr 1176 Dublin,Ireland
111 Aoife MCMORROUGH-5490: b Abt 1141 Ireland; d Abt 1189/1190
112 Fergus Mor [Prince Galloway]-4044: b Abt 1090
Galloway,Scotland; m Abt 1124 Carrick,Ayrshire,Scotland; d
1161 Holyrood Abbey,Edinburgh,Scotland
113 Elizabeth [Of England]-4638: b Abt 1095
Talby,Yorkshire,England
116 Walter FITZ ALAN [1st High Stewart]-3013: b Abt 1130 ; d 1177
117 Eschyna de MAULE-3011: b Abt 1165
118 Swan THOR'S SON-3696: b Abt 1110/1120 ; d Aft 1164
124 Gillebride Gilbert ANGUS [1st Earl Angus]-4575: d Abt 1187
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--------------------------
8th GENERATION
144 John COMYN-4367: d Aft 1135
145 DAUGHTER GIFFARD [of Fonthill]-4365
146 Thurstan BANASTER-4364
148 Waldef [of Tynedale]-4358
150 DONALD BANE [King of Scots]-3911: b 1033 ; d 1099
152 Colban [Earl Buchan]-4384: d Aft 1182
153 Eva [Countess Buchan]-4383
160 Cynan AP IAGO-5231: b 1000
161 Radnaillt Of DUBLIN-8940: b 1015
162 Owain AP EDWIN-8971: d 1104
164 Trahaern AP CARADOG [Of Arwystili, King Of Gwynedd]-9108: d
1081
168 Bleddyn AP CYNFYN [King Of Gwynedd And Powys]-2422: b 1025 ;
d 1075
169 Haer FERCH CILLIN-2423
170 Einudd OF DYFFRIN CLWYD-9109
192 Robert de BRUS [Of Annandale]-8930
193 Euphemia-8931
194 WILLIAM I The Lion SCOTLAND [King Of Scots]-3035: b Abt
1142/1143 ; d 4 Dec 1214 Stirling,Scotland
200 DAVID I SCOTLAND [King of Scots]-3042: b 1080 ; m Abt 1113 ;
d 24 May 1153 Carlisle,Cumbria,Scotland
201 Maud Matilda Of HUNTINGDON-3040: b Abt 1074 ; d 1130/1140
202 William II de WARENNE [2nd Earl of Surrey]-3032: b 1081 ; d
11 May 1138
203 Elizabeth de VERMANDOIS-1428: b 1081 Vermandois,France; d 13
Feb 1130/1131 St. Nicaise,Meulan,France
204 Ranulph II MESCHINES [2nd Earl Of Chester]-5771: b Abt 1100 ;
d 16 Dec 1153
205 Maud FITZ ROBERT-5772: b Abt 1120 ; d 29 Jul 1189
206 Simon IV de MONTFORT [Comte D'Evreux]-5770: b Bef 1188 ; m
Bef 1175
207 Amice de BEAUMONT-5466: d 3 Sep 1215 ; Hautebruyere
208 Richard de CLARE-5465: b Bef 1100 ; d 15 Apr 1139 Slain by
Welsh,Abergavenny
209 Adeliz Alice MESCHINES [of Chester]-7431
210 James de ST. HILLARY-5464: d Abt 1154
211 Aveline-8478
212 Robert de CAEN [Earl Gloucester]-5495: b Abt 1090
Caen,France; d 31 Oct 1147 Bristol,England
213 Mabel FITZ HAMON-5494: b Abt 1090 ; d 1157
214 Robert de BEAUMONT [2nd Earl Of Leicester]-5528: b 1104 ; m
Aft Nov 1120 ; d 5 Apr 1168
215 Amice de GAEL [of Montfort]-6702: b Abt 1095 ; d Aft 1168
216 Gilbert MARSHAL [The Marshall]-5508: d Bef 1130
218 Walter Fitz Edward de SALISBURY-5503: d 1147 ; Bradenstoke
219 Sibilla CHAWORTH-1929
220 Gilbert de CLARE [1st Earl of Pembroke]-5475: b Abt 1100 ; d
6 Jan 1148/1149
221 Isabel Elizabeth de BEAUMONT [of Leicester]-5527: b Abt
1104/1110 ; d Aft 1172 222 Dermot Diarmait MAC MURCHADA [King of
Leinster]-5491: b 1110 ; d 1 May 1171 Ferns,Ireland
223 Mor INGEN MUIRCHERTACH [Uá Tuathail]-5509: b Abt 1114 ; d Abt
1191
226 Henry I BEAUCLERC [King Of England]-4126: b 1068/1070
Selby,Yorkshire,England; d 1 Dec 1135 Angers,
Maine-et-Loire,France
232 Alan FITZ FLAALD [Baron Oswestry]-3015: b Aft 1122 ; m Bef
1122
233 Avelina de HESDING-3014
234 Thomas de LUNDINS-3012: b Abt 1120
236 Thor SON OF SWAN-3697: b Abt 1070/1080 ; d Abt 1150
==========================
Suzanne Doig
>I have Donald, 8th Earl of Mar as the first husband of Isabel Stewart. He is
>said to be the son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and Christian Bruce. Can
>someone furnish me with the ancestors of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and/or
>Christian Bruce. Thank you so very much. Happy Holidays.
Merry Christmas Phyllis!
1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.
Parents
2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.
3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.
Grand Parents
4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.
5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.
6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.
7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.
Great Grand Parents
8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.
9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.
?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]
12. Robert VI ‘the Competitor’ BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.
13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.
14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.
15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.
Great Great Grand Parents
16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.
18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.
19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.
20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.
21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.
24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.
25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.
26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.
27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.
28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.
29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.
30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.
31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.
3rd Great Grand Parents
32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.
33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.
36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.
37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).
38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.
40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.
41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.
42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.
?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog’s wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred’s mother.]
48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.
49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).
50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.
51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.
52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.
53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.
54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.
55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.
56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.
58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.
?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan’s wife and the mother of his children is debated.]
60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.
?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.
62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.
4th Great Grand Parents
64. Gylocher.
74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.
75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.
80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.
81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.
82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.
84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.
85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.
86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.
87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.
96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.
97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.
100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.
101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.
102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.
103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.
104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.
105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.
106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.
107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.
108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.
109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.
110. Richard ‘Strongbow’ fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.
111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard ‘Strongbow’ DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.
112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.
113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.
116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.
117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.
118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.
119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.
124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.
125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.
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>
> I have Donald, 8th Earl of Mar as the first husband of Isabel Stewart. He is
> said to be the son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and Christian Bruce. Can
Direct Descendants of Eochaid Munrevar of Irish Dalriada
1 King Eochaid Munrevar of Irish Dalriada ref #: (Ä170-1)
+ aka: Erca
2 King Ercc of Irish Dalriada b: Abt. 400 d: 474 ref #: Ä170-1
+Misi aka: Mist d: Abt. 474
3 King Fergus Mor Mac Ercc of Dalriada d: 501 ref #: Ä170-2
4 King Domangart of Scottish Dalriada aka: Dumngalhen d: Abt. 504
ref #: Ä170-3
+Feldelm Foltchain aka: Fedelmia ref #: (Ä170-3)
5 King Gabran Mac Domangart of Scots aka: Gavran / Goranus d: 560
ref #: Ä170-4
+Lleian ref #: (Ä170-4)
6 King Aedan mac Gabran of Dalriada aka: Aldanus b: 532 d: Abt. 608
ref #: Ä170-5
7 King Eochaid Buide of Picts & Dalriada b: Bef. 607 d: Abt. 630 ref
#: Ä170-6
8 King Domnall Brec of Dalriada aka: Donald Breck d: 642 ref #:
Ä170-7
9 Domangart II d: Abt. 673 ref #: Ä170-8
10 King Eochaid II of Dalriada aka: "Rianamhail" b: Abt. 660 d: Abt.
697 ref #: Ä170-9
+Princess Spondana aka: Spondana, Princess of the Picts b: Abt.
677
11 Eochaid III of Dalriada b: Abt. 695 d: 721 ref #: Ä170-9A
12 King Aid Finn of Dalriada d: Aft. 777 ref #: Ä170-10
13 [4] King Eochaid IV of Dalriada aka: "Annuine" b: Abt. 747 d: 819
ref #: Ä170-11
+[3] Fergusa of Dalriada b: Abt. 755 ref #: S355-43
14 King Alpin mac Eochaid of Dalriada aka: King of Kintyre b: Abt.
778 d: 20 Jul 841 ref #: Ä170-12
15 King Kenneth I mac Alpin of Scotland aka: Cinaed b: Abt. 810 d: 6
Feb 858/59 ref #: Ä170-13
16 King Constantine I of Scotland aka: Causantin b: Abt. 836 d: 877
ref #: Ä170-14
17 King Donald II of Scots aka: Domnall b: Abt. 862 d: 900 ref #:
Ä170-15
18 King Malcolm I of Scots aka: Mael-Colium b: Abt. 897 d: 954 ref #:
Ä170-16
19 King Kenneth II of Scotland aka: Cinaed b: Abt. 934 d: 995 ref #:
Ä170-17
20 King Malcolm II of Scotland aka: Malcolm MacKenneth b: Abt. 954 d:
25 Nov 1034 ref #: Ä170-18
21 Bethoc MacKenneth aka: Beatrix b: Abt. 984 ref #: Ä170-19
+Crinan Mormaer aka: "Crinan the Thane" b: Abt. 978 d: 1045 ref #:
(Ä170-19)
22 King Duncan I of Scotland aka: Duncan mac Crinan b: Abt. 1003 d:
14 Aug 1040 ref #: Ä170-20
+Sybilla FitzSiward b: Abt. 1009 d: 1040 ref #: (Ä170-20)
23 King Malcolm III of Scotland aka: "Ceannmor" b: Abt. 1031 d: 13
Nov 1093 ref #: Ä170-21
*2nd Wife of Malcolm III of Scotland:
+Princess Margaret of England aka: St. Margaret of Scotland b:
Abt. 1045 d: 16 Nov 1093 ref #: Ä1-22
24 King David I of Scotland aka: "The Saint" b: Abt. 1080 d: 24 May
1153 ref #: Ä170-22
+Matilda de Huntingdon aka: Maud de Huntingdon b: 1072 d: Abt.
1131 ref #: Ä148-24
25 Sir Henry de Huntingdon aka: Earl of Huntington b: 1114 d: 12 Jun
1152 ref #: Ä170-23
+Ada de Warenne b: Abt. 1120 d: 1178 ref #: Ä89-25
26 Sir David de Huntingdon aka: Earl of Huntingdon b: Abt. 1144 d: 17
Jun 1219 ref #: Ä93-26
+Maud of Chester aka: Maud de Meschines b: 1171 d: 1233 ref #:
Ä131-29
27 Isabella de Huntingdon d: 1251 ref #: Ä252-27
+Sir Robert de Brus aka: Lord of Annandale d: 1245 ref #:
(Ä252-27)
28 Sir Robert de Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale b: 1210 d: Bef. 3 May
1294 ref #: Ä252-28
+Isabel de Clare b: 2 Nov 1226 d: Aft. 10 Jul 1264 ref #: W41-3
29 Sir Robert Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale; 3d Earl of Carrick b: Jul
1243 d: Mar 1303/04 ref #: W41-4
+Margery de Carrick aka: Margaret de Carrick d: Bef. 27 Oct 1292
ref #: Ä121C-30
30 [2] Christian de Bruce d: Abt. 1357 ref #: BRF:208
+[1] Sir Gartney de Mar aka: 7th Earl of Mar d: Bef. 1305 ref #:
BPci:1447
31 Sir Donald de Mar aka: 8th Earl of Mar d: 12 Aug 1332 ref #:
BPci:1448
*2nd Wife of Robert Bruce:
*2nd Wife of Robert de Bruce:
23 King Donald Bane of Scotland d: Aft. 1096 ref #: Ã121A-23
24 Bethoc ref #: Ä121A-24
+Huctred of Tyndale ref #: (Ä121A-24)
25 Hextilda ref #: Ä121A-25
+Richard Comyn d: Abt. 1179 ref #: (Ä121A-25)
26 Sir William Comyn aka: 1st Earl of Buchan d: 1233 ref #: Ä121A-26
*2nd Wife of William Comyn:
+Marjorie aka: Countess of Buchan ref #: (Ä114A-26)
27 Elizabeth Comyn d: 1267 ref #: (Ä252-30)
+Sir William de Mar aka: 5th Earl of Mar d: Abt. 1281 ref #:
(Ä252-30)
28 Sir Donald de Mar aka: 6th Earl of Mar d: Aft. 25 Jul 1297 ref #:
(Ä252-30)
+Helen verch Llewellyn ref #: (Ä252-30)
29 [1] Sir Gartney de Mar aka: 7th Earl of Mar d: Bef. 1305 ref #:
BPci:1447
+[2] Christian de Bruce d: Abt. 1357 ref #: BRF:208
*2nd Husband of Hextilda:
11 [6] King Fergus of Dalriada b: Abt. 709 d: Abt. 781
+[5] ref #: S355-44
12 [3] Fergusa of Dalriada b: Abt. 755 ref #: S355-43
+[4] King Eochaid IV of Dalriada aka: "Annuine" b: Abt. 747 d: 819
ref #: Ä170-11
*2nd Wife of Eochaid II of Dalriada:
+ ref #: S341-47
11 Fland ref #: S341-46
+Foredach Wrold d: Aft. 735 ref #: S355-45
12 [5] ref #: S355-44
+[6] King Fergus of Dalriada b: Abt. 709 d: Abt. 781
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FWIW; AFAIK; IMHO; YMMV; yadda, yadda, yadda.
Regards, Ed Mann mailto:edl...@mail2.lcia.com
References:
Ä = Weis, _Ancestral_Roots_, 7th ed.
AACPW = Roberts & Reitwiesner, _American Ancestors and Cousins of
the Princess of Wales_, [page].
AAP = Roberts, _Ancestors_of_American_Presidents_, [page] or
[Pres. # : page].
BP1 = _Burke's_Presidential_Families_, 1st ed. [page].
BPci = _Burke's_Peerage_, 101st ed., [page].
BRF = Weir, _Britain's_Royal_Families_, [page].
BxP = _Burke's_Dormant_&_Extinct_Peerages_, [page].
EC1 = Redlich, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol I, [page].
EC2 = Langston & Buck, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
EC3 = Buck & Beard, _Emperor_Charlemagne's_Descendants_, Vol II,
[page].
F = Faris, _Plantagenet_Ancestry_, [page:para].
NK1 = Roberts, _Notable_Kin_Volume_One_, [page].
Π= Hardy, _Colonial_Families_of_the_Southern_States_of_America_,
[page].
S = Stuart, _Royalty_for_Commoners_, 2d ed. Caveat emptor.
W = Weis, _Magna_Charta_Sureties,_1215_, 4th ed.
WFT = Broderbund's World Family Tree CD, [vol]:[num] Caveat emptor.
WMC = Wurt's Magna Charta, [vol]:[page]
ED MANN
>
> I have Donald, 8th Earl of Mar as the first husband of Isabel Stewart. He is
> said to be the son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar and Christian Bruce. Can
> Christian Bruce.
Direct Descendants of Henry I of England
1 King Henry I of England aka: "Beauclerc" b: 1068 d: 1 Dec 1135 ref
#: Ä121-25
2 Sir Robert de Caen aka: Earl of Gloucester b: Abt. 1090 d: 31 Oct
1147 ref #: Ä124-26
+Maud FitzHamon b: Abt. 1090 d: 1157 ref #: (Ä63-26)
3 Maud de Caen aka: Maud FitzRobert b: Abt. 1120 d: 29 Jul 1189 ref
#: Ä125-27
+Sir Ranulph de Guernon aka: 2d Earl of Chester b: Abt. 1100 d: 16
Dec 1153 ref #: Ä132A-27
4 Sir Hugh de Kevelioc aka: 3d Earl of Chester b: 1147 d: 30 Jun 1181
ref #: Ä125-28
+Bertrade de Montfort b: Abt. 1155 d: 1227 ref #: (Ä125-28)
5 Maud of Chester aka: Maud de Meschines b: 1171 d: 1233 ref #:
Ä131-29
+Sir David de Huntingdon aka: Earl of Huntingdon b: Abt. 1144 d: 17
Jun 1219 ref #: Ä93-26
6 Isabella de Huntingdon d: 1251 ref #: Ä252-27
+Sir Robert de Brus aka: Lord of Annandale d: 1245 ref #: (Ä252-27)
7 [2] Sir Robert de Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale b: 1210 d: Bef. 3
May 1294 ref #: Ä252-28
+[1] Isabel de Clare b: 2 Nov 1226 d: Aft. 10 Jul 1264 ref #: W41-3
8 [4] Sir Robert Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale; 3d Earl of Carrick b:
Jul 1243 d: Mar 1303/04 ref #: W41-4
+[3] Margery de Carrick aka: Margaret de Carrick d: Bef. 27 Oct
1292 ref #: Ä121C-30
9 Christian de Bruce d: Abt. 1357 ref #: BRF:208
*2nd Wife of [4] Robert Bruce:
*2nd Wife of [2] Robert de Bruce:
3 Sir William FitzRobert aka: 2d Earl of Gloucester d: 25 Nov 1183
ref #: Ä124-27
+Hawise de Beaumont b: Abt. 1130 d: 24 Apr 1197 ref #: Ä63-26
4 Amice FitzWilliam aka: Countess of Gloucester b: Abt. 1160 d: 1 Jan
1224/25 ref #: Ä63-27
+Sir Richard de Clare aka: 4th Earl of Hertford; Magna Charta Surety
b: Abt. 1162 d: Abt. 28 Nov 1217 ref #: W28-1
5 Sir Gilbert de Clare aka: 5th Earl of Hertford; Magna Charta Surety
b: Abt. 1180 d: 25 Oct 1230 ref #: W28-2
+Isabel Marshal b: 9 Oct 1200 d: 17 Jan 1239/40 ref #: W145-2
6 [1] Isabel de Clare b: 2 Nov 1226 d: Aft. 10 Jul 1264 ref #: W41-3
+[2] Sir Robert de Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale b: 1210 d: Bef. 3
May 1294 ref #: Ä252-28
*2nd Wife of Henry I of England:
2 Elizabeth ref #: Ä121B-26
+Sir Fergus of Galloway aka: Lord of Galloway d: 12 May 1166 ref #:
(Ä38-24)
3 Gilbert of Galloway d: 1 Jan 1184/85 ref #: Ä121C-27
4 Sir Duncan of Carrick aka: Lord of Carrick b: Aft. 1163 d: 13 Jun
1252 ref #: Ä121C-28
+Avelina FitzWalter ref #: (Ä121C-28)
5 Sir Neil de Carrick aka: 2d Earl of Carrick d: 1256 ref #:
Ä121C-29
+Margaret aka: Isabella ref #: (Ä121C-29)
6 [3] Margery de Carrick aka: Margaret de Carrick d: Bef. 27 Oct
1292 ref #: Ä121C-30
*2nd Husband of [3] Margery de Carrick:
+[4] Sir Robert Bruce aka: Lord of Annandale; 3d Earl of Carrick b:
Jul 1243 d: Mar 1303/04 ref #: W41-4
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Suzanne Doig
>Descendants of Ruadri de Mar
>
> 1 Ruadri de Mar
> 2 Morgund de Mar
Hi Dave,
What is your source making Morgund a son of Ruadri, rather than of
Gylocher as per Cokayne?