Wife of Alfonso de La Cerda, Infant of Castile (~1270-aft.1334) - CPB by Thierry Le Hête

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In Leo's Genealogics, Alfonso is married to Mafalda|Mahaut|Mathilde de
Narbonne, Dame de Lunel, dau. of Aimeri IV|VI vct.de Narbonne and
Sibylle de Foix. Leo's source is ES.
The same can be found in gen-euweb and in Paul Theroff.

However, in Genea Portugal, Alfonso is married to Matilde de Brienne *
ca.1273 dau.of Jean I de Brienne, ct.d'EU and Blanche of France.
http://genealogia.netopia.pt/pessoas/pes_show.php?id=436
and the same is found in some other sites, one of them semi-official of
Spanish Tourism
http://www.nuevoportal.com/andando/pueblos/extrema/badajoz/valverdeburgu.html

Leo, following ES gives Jean I and Blanche, only 4 children,
Marguerite, Isabelle, Jean II et Jeanne. The first three already dead
in 1310 (Miroslav have Jean II died 1331/2 what can be a typo for
1301/2) and Jeanne died aft.1325.
Leo, Miroslav and Theroff, all say Mahaut de Narbonne, Dame de Lunel
died aft. 1348 and all say that the son Alfonso de La Cerda (same name
of the father) was lord of Lunel (wich he could only have inherited
from Mahaut de Narbonne).
So chronology and Lunel seem to confirm Mahaut de Narbonne.

I have also noticed that Miroslav Marek gives a fifth child to Jean I
de Brienne and Blanche de France, a Mahaut de Brienne "still living in
1328".
A dau. of a Brienne, ct. d'Eu and of a princess of France, attested
only once without further mention (married, widowed or religious) seems
rather unprobable but I can't dismiss the possibility.

But my doubt arises from Genea Portugal's source, "Les Comtes Palatins
de Bourgogne" by Thierry Le Hête, edited by the author, 1st. ed. La
Bonneville-sur-Iton, 1995, pg. 220.
It is a recent book and so it might reflect new research.
I have never heard of M. Le Hête, but then my knowlege in this area is
very close to none. I would appreciate any information on the
credibility of M. Le Hête and his book and also the confirmation of
Alfonso's wife identity, Narbonne or Brienne.

Many thanks,
Francisco Tavares de Almeida
(Portugal)

[francisco.tav...@gmail.com]

Ooops.
Where is written Blanche de France please read Beatrix de Chatillon.

Regards
Francisco

[Peter Stewart]

francisco.tav...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In Leo's Genealogics, Alfonso is married to Mafalda|Mahaut|Mathilde
> de Narbonne, Dame de Lunel, dau. of Aimeri IV|VI vct.de Narbonne
> and Sibylle de Foix. Leo's source is ES. The same can be found in
> gen-euweb and in Paul Theroff.
>
> However, in Genea Portugal, Alfonso is married to Matilde de
> Brienne * ca.1273 dau.of Jean I de Brienne, ct.d'EU and Blanche of
> France. http://genealogia.netopia.pt/pessoas/pes_show.php?id=436
> and the same is found in some other sites, one of them semi-official
> of Spanish Tourism
> http://www.nuevoportal.com/andando/pueblos/extrema/badajoz/valverdeburgu.html

<snip>

> But my doubt arises from Genea Portugal's source, "Les Comtes

> Palatins de Bourgogne" by Thierry Le Hęte, edited by the author, 1st.

> ed. La Bonneville-sur-Iton, 1995, pg. 220.
> It is a recent book and so it might reflect new research.

> I have never heard of M. Le Hęte, but then my knowlege in this area is

> very close to none. I would appreciate any information on the

> credibility of M. Le Hęte and his book and also the confirmation of

> Alfonso's wife identity, Narbonne or Brienne.

Thierry Le Hęte's book cited above was compiled with a bit more enthusiasm
than expertise, but like all genealogists he is only as good as the sources
he used. There were at least three issues of errata & addenda following
publication in 1995, with assistance from Edouard de Saint-Phalle who is
more familiar with primary sources.

In this question Thierry Le Hęte did not need correcting. As explained in a
note on p. 228, David Masnata y de Quesada (in _La casa real de La Cerda_)
demonstrated that Alfonso was married to Mathilde de Brienne, and not to
Mathilde de Narbonne as had been stated by Luis de Salazar y Castro in the
17th century. There was no such person as "Mathilde de Lunel" either, given
by some genealogists, as that lineage was extinct before Alfonso's time and
he received the seigneury of Lunel directly as a gift from Charles IV.

Without checking today, I'm pretty sure that Alfonso's wife Mathilde is
given correctly in the Brienne pedigree in ES III/4.

Peter Stewart

[francisco.tav...@gmail.com]

Many thanks, Peter.

Francisco