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Father of Adélaide wife of Renaud I c. de Nevers

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Christian Feuillet

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Oct 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/30/99
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Who was the father of Adelaide wife of Renaud I comte de Nevers, Hugues I
"Capet" or his son Robert II king of France?
I have a dynastic table that gives an Adelaide to each of them and marries
Renaud to Hugues daughter.
Francois Velde in his web page gives also two Adelaide but marries Renaud
to Robert's daughter.

Thank you for your help.
Christian


marco

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Oct 31, 1999, 2:00:00 AM10/31/99
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The father was Hugues Capet and the mother Adélaide, daughter of Guillaume
IV, "Tete d'Etoupe", duke of Guyenne and count of Poitou.
Robert was the father of Adčle, wife of Richard III duke of Normandy and,
after his death, of Balduin count of Flanders.

Ciao
Marco - Italy

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Todd A. Farmerie

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Nov 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/1/99
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Christian Feuillet wrote:
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> Who was the father of Adelaide wife of Renaud I comte de Nevers, Hugues I
> "Capet" or his son Robert II king of France?
> I have a dynastic table that gives an Adelaide to each of them and marries
> Renaud to Hugues daughter.
> Francois Velde in his web page gives also two Adelaide but marries Renaud
> to Robert's daughter.

This was the subject of much confusion until clarified by a couple of
articles in Medieval Prosopography. There were two royal princesses who
historians refered to by the name Adela or its variants, and who were
each claimed to be a daughter of Robert II. Because of this double
Adele, it had been argued that one of them, the wife of Renaud, was
actually Robert's sister, the daughter of Hugh Capet. In fact, both
were daughters of Robert II, but both were NOT named Adelaide.
(Unfortunatly, I do not remember clearly which is which but I think . .
.) The wife of Renaud was Alvais, a derivative form of the name Hedwig
and a german name brought into the family by the wife of Hugh Magnus.
The wife of Baldwin of Flanders was named Adelais, which shares similar
roots with Adelaide. Because of the failure to recognize the former as
a separate name from the latter, it caused historians to 'fix' a problem
that didn't really exist. Recent work has demmonstrated clearly that
both were Robert's.

taf

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