Re: A Domesday Descent: Hay of Aughton, and of Spaldington
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
Thanks in particular to Rosie Bevan, I have been able to
reconstruct the pedigree of the de la Hayes of Spaldington. A
skeletal outline is given below, with a detailed pedigree to
follow.
This effort is by no means complete. Should anyone note
further individuals, connections or relevant documentation (after
perusing the forthcoming pedigree post), please advise.
Cheers,
John *
Ralph de la Haye
of Spaldington (fl. 1182)
I
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I I
Richard Philip
fl. ca. 1185-1200
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Philip = Agnes le Sir Peter
(dvp ?) Constable d. aft 12 May 1254
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John
d. before 1285
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I I I
Peter = Cecilia John James
b. bef 7 May 1271/2 I fl. 1310 clerk
d. bef 31 Oct 1347 I fl. 1317
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I I I I I I
John Elizabeth Joan Katherine I Thomas = Agnes
d. 1393 prioress _________I d. aft I le
I of Thickhed I 21 Dec I Botiller
I Margaret 1379 I
Isabel I
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1) Joan = Peter = 2) Elizabeth
3) Elizabeth d. bef I
Woodruff 11 Apr I
1431 I
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I I I I
Thomas Peter Robert Elizabeth
dvp aft 1 Jul 1426 = John Wortley
= Agnes le Botiller of Wortley
I I
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I I I I I
Isabel Katherine Elizabeth Alice Dorothy
= John = Robert = John = Thomas nun, of
le Hildyard Knyght Thwaites Swine
Vavasour Esq. I
I I I
V V V
* John P. Ravilious
The...@aol.com
Hello All,
Following are the notes to the prior post.
Cheers,
John
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SGM, 26 Feb 2002.
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Lincs., pp. 951-954, URL
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Yorkshire Archaeological Journal, Vol. 29 (1929), pp. 68-88,
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SANDAL>, SGM, 11 January 2005, email davidbh...@hotmail.com.
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of Holderness," Hull: Thomas Topping, and W. Pickering, 1840
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grant to Richard de Brus of the custody of the heir of Roger de Tony,
(Henry III, A.D. 1266-1272), (Richard II, A.D. 1377-1381), Vol. 1,
p. 524, presentation to the church of Southpole, 3 July 1380,
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al...@mindspring.com
The...@aol.com wrote:
> Thursday, 21 September, 2006
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>Hi John
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> Thomas Peter Robert Elizabeth
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Doug
John P. Ravilious
Right you are.
Not only is the error in question (Thomas de la Haye marrying
his grandmother, Agnes le Botiller) wrong, it likely would never have
received a papal dispensation.
The detailed pedigree has it correct......fortunately. Thanks
for catching that.
Cheers,
John
John P. Ravilious
Thursday, 21 September, 2006
Hello All,
Following is a detailed pedigree of the de la Haye family of
Spaldington, reflecting the details and corrections derived from
Early Yorkshire Charters and other records lately found.
There are a number of questions concerning this family which
still lack answers. Peter de la Haye's tenure of Streatlam, co.
Durham will be dealt with in a separate post to the thread
commenced on that issue. Constance, wife of Robert le Butiler
(or Botiller) and great-great grandmother of Agnes le Botiller
(wife of Thomas de la Haye) has been found to be a de la Haye
herself, and a separate post will be made shortly. There may
be an early connection (before 1182) between the de la Hayes of
Spaldington and the Aughton family, but that has not yet been
found. There is still a good possibility that the alleged
marriage of Sir Peter de la Haye (not a son of Thomas de la
Haye of Aughton, as earlier thought) to a niece of William
fitz Peter was the source of certain Spaldington holdings,
but that determination awaits additional evidence.
The additions and corrections this provides to the received
(and hitherto conjectured) de la Haye pedigree would not have been
possible without the contributions of Rosie Bevan, to whom any
credit, and my thanks, are due. Additional documentation or
comment is welcome, as always.
Cheers,
John *
1 Ralph de la Haye
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of Spaldington, co. Yorks.
' In 1182 a certain Richard son of Anthony owed 10 marks for the right
of 10 carucates and one bovate in [Kirk or West] Ella and Spaldington
against Ralph de Haya and Reginald Rosel; but he had not the right. '
[EYC XII:88[1], cites "Pipe Roll 28 Hen. II, p. 45. The debt
continued
and was paid in 1185 (ibid. 31 Hen. II, p. 65)."]
" Radulfus de la Haie ", record of a gift to Swine priory, 1188 or
before:
" 65. Notification by the chapter of Swine priory that Ralph de la
Hay, with the consent of his heirs Richard and Philip, had given
in frankalmoign 9 bovates of land and a dwelling in Spaldingtonk,
and in lieu of 3 other dwellings belonging thereto 12 acres in his
woodland for making granges, namely a fifth of his land in
Spaldington of the fee of Roger de Mowbray, the priory doing a
proportionate amount of the forinsec service due; with pasture
for 100 cows, 100 pigs, of which 60 would be free of pannage,
400 sheep, and 220 unbroken mares with their foals; the fifth part
being in the donor's woodland lying next the hermitage of
Spaldingholme and the 12 acres adjacent, extending to the
boundary between the donor's woodland and that of Howden.
[ante 1189] " [EYC XII:89-90, no. 65[1] - Original Charer, B.M. Add.
Charter 26108. Farrer, wrote, 'The latest date for this charter,
issued in the lifetime of Roger de Mowbray, is 1188.']
Children: Richard
Philip
1.1 Richard de la Haye
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of Spaldington, co. Yorks.
gift to Swine priory by his father, 1188 or before, made with his
assent and that of his brother Philip [" concedentibus heredibus
suis Ricardo et Philippo...." ] [EYC XII:89-90, no. 65[1] -
Original Charer, B.M. Add. Charter 26108]
' Ricardo de la Hay', witness to a charter of Robert le Constable
dated before 1208:
" Robertus constabularius de Fleynesburgh et Willelmus filius suus ",
granted a charter to North Ormsby priory of pasture in Holme upon
Spalding Moor for specified numbers of animals and 11 acres of land,
for 10 marks of silver and 44d. yearly, before 1208. Witnesses,
William fitz Peter of Goodmanham, Richard de la Hay [" Willelmo
filio Petri de Gudmundham, Ricardo de la Hay,..."] and others.
[EYC XII:94-95, no. 70, cites Transcripts of Gilbertine Charters, p.
65]
" Ricardus de la Hai ", granted a charter to North Ormsby priory of
land in Spaldington, witnessed by William le Bachelor [" Willelmo
Baceler "] and others. [EYC XII:95, no. 71[1], cites Transcripts
of Gilbertine Charters, p. 66]
Children: Philip
Sir Peter (->1254)
1.1.1 Philip de la Haye
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probably succeeded his father, but possibly d.v.p. * :
reference made to his land in Spaldington, concerning which Farrer
wrote,
' Another gift of land [to North Ormsby priory] in the territory of
Spaldington was made by Sir Peter de Haya son of Richard de Haya
of Spaldington, mentioning land formerly belonging to Philip de
Haya ' [EYC XII:95[1]]
' 72. Confirmation by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington to Ellerton
priory of reasonable estovers by the view of his forester through-
out the wood which had been of the fee of William son of Peter
[de Goodmanham] in Spaldington [" quod fuit de feodo Willelmi filii
Petri in Spaldingtun "], for the purposes of the tofts
which the priory had of the gifts of Robert son of William, William
Bacheler, Philip de la Hay ["" de dono Philippi de la Hay "], and
Osbert [de Spaldington] and
Lecia his wife; and to the men of the priory dwelling in the
tofts of sufficient pasture for their beasts and for 36 pigs free of
pannage in the time of pannage; in accordance with the charter
of William son of Peter, except for the restriction of freedom of
pannage as specified. [ ante 1228 ] "
[EYC XII:95-97, no. 72[1], cites MS. Dodsworth vii,
f. 333v - witnessed by Roger Hay, Philip de la Hay
(" Rogero Hay,..., Philippo de la Hay,..." ) and others.]
~ ' The previous charter in the Dodsworth MS. is the one by which
William son of Peter had given the estovers throughout all his wood
of Spaldington in almost identical terms,....
... there is a warranty clause, and the witnesses are Alan de Wilton,
Richard de la Haye, Oliver de Gunnebi, William son of Adam de Garton,
William Battaile, Robert son of William de Spaldington, and William
Bacheler.... The last date for Peter's confirmation can be taken as
1228,
when Oliver de Gunby was apparently dead. ' [1]
* Note: a charter of his brother Sir Peter was witnessed by
' Philippo de la Hay ' [EYC XII:95-97, no. 72[1]] -
a son of Philip, or of Peter?
Spouse: Agnes le Constable
Father: Robert le Constable of Flamborough (-<1208)
Mother: Eufemia
1.1.2 Sir Peter de la Hay
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Death: aft 15 May 1254[2]
knt., of Spaldington, co. Yorks.
concerning his father, Farrer wrote:
' His successor appears to have been his son Peter, who confirmed
to Ellerton priory estovers in his wood of Spaldington (no. 72),
and who as Peter son of Richard de la Hay of Spaldiington gave to
the same house a toft and croft in Holme on the Wolds. <6> Peter
de hay witnessed the agreement between William de Vescy and Robert
Constable on 24 February 1246-7 (no. 52) ' [EYC XII:88[1]]
' Another gift of land [to North Ormsby priory] in the territory of
Spaldington was made by Sir Peter de Haya son of Richard de Haya
of Spaldington, mentioning land formerly belonging to Philip de
Haya ' [EYC XII:95[1]]
" Petrus de la Hay de Spaldington ", confirmed certain grants to
Ellerton priory, before 1228:
' 72. Confirmation by Peter de la Hay of Spaldington to Ellerton
priory of reasonable estovers by the view of his forester through-
out the wood which had been of the fee of William son of Peter
[de Goodmanham] in Spaldington [" quod fuit de feodo Willelmi filii
Petri in Spaldingtun "], for the purposes of the tofts
which the priory had of the gifts of Robert son of William, William
Bacheler, Philip de la Hay ["" de dono Philippi de la Hay "], and
Osbert [de Spaldington] and
Lecia his wife; and to the men of the priory dwelling in the
tofts of sufficient pasture for their beasts and for 36 pigs free of
pannage in the time of pannage; in accordance with the charter
of William son of Peter, except for the restriction of freedom of
pannage as specified. [ ante 1228 ] "
[EYC XII:95-97, no. 72[1], cites MS. Dodsworth vii,
f. 333v - witnessed by Roger Hay, Philip de la Hay
(" Rogero Hay,..., Philippo de la Hay,..." ) and others.]
~ ' The previous charter in the Dodsworth MS. is the one by which
William son of Peter had given the estovers throughout all his wood
of Spaldington in almost identical terms,....
... there is a warranty clause, and the witnesses are Alan de Wilton,
Richard de la Haye, Oliver de Gunnebi, William son of Adam de Garton,
William Battaile, Robert son of William de Spaldington, and William
Bacheler.... The last date for Peter's confirmation can be taken as
1228,
when Oliver de Gunby was apparently dead. '
' Sir (D'ns) Peter de la Haye holds half a fee in Spaldington of the
Barony of Mubraye, and pays yearly 6s. 8d. That land is worth five
marcs. ' IPM of Robert de Greystoke, son of William, extent dated
15 May 1254 [Yorks. Inq. I:37[2]]
: Peter de la Haye (evidently his grandson) held the same land,
1302-03 [Kirkby's Inquest, p. 252[3]]
" Petrus de la Hay miles ", granted land in Spaldington to Ellerton
priory, and his body for interment, witnessed by ' John my son and
heir ', Roger de Linton in Lathom, and others:
' 73. Gift by Sir Peter de la Hay, knt, to Ellerton priory with his
body for burial, of 3 acres of arable land in the field of
Spaldington, abutting on the headland of Gribthorpe towards
the north. ' [middle 13th cent.] [EYC XII:97, no. 73[1], cites
MS. Dodsworth vii, f. 334]
Children: John (-<1285)
1.1.2.1 John de la Hay
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Death: bef 1285[3]
of Spaldington, co. Yorks.
" Johanne filio et herede meo ", witnessed gift by his father of land
in Spaldington to Ellerton priory, and his body for interment
(witnessed by ' John my son and heir ', Roger de Linton in Lathom,
and others):
' 73. Gift by Sir Peter de la Hay, knt, to Ellerton priory with his
body
for burial, of 3 acres of arable land in the field of Spaldington,
abutting on the headland of Gribthorpe towards the north. ' [middle
13th cent.] [EYC XII:97, no. 73[1], cites MS. Dodsworth vii, f. 334]
possibly the 'John del Hay' who [together with William de Flamborough,
Richard de Lacy and others] took the extent of the lands of Gilbert de
Gant, 7 Feb 1273/4 - IPM of Gilbert de Gaunt, writ dated Westminster,
26 Jan 2 Edw. I [1273/4] [Yorks. Inq. I:137[2]]
he was evidently the ' John del Hay' of Spaldington who d. before 1285,
when his heir was recorded as a tenant of German del Hay in
Spaldington
for land in the Mauley fee:
' Spaldington. Item idue Petrus [de Mauley] habet in
Spaldington iij car. et j bov. et di. in feodo; unde
Russell (sic), Walterus Bathell, et haer' Johannis
del Hay tenent totum de Germano le Hay, et Germanus
le Hay del Maulay. ' [Kirkby's Inquest, Wapentake of Harthill,
East Riding (p. 83)[3]]
Children: Peter (<1271-<1347)
John
James
1.1.2.1.1 Peter de la Hay
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Birth: bef 7 Mar 1271[1]
Death: bef 31 Oct 1347[4]
of Spaldington, co. Yorks.
he was born before 7 Mar 1271/2 [see below, EYC XII:88-89[1]]
he evidently succeeded his father as a minor before 1284-5, when as
' the heir of John del Hay' he was recorded as a tenant of German
(de) la Hay:
' Spaldington. Item idue Petrus [de Mauley] habet in
Spaldington iij car. et j bov. et di. in feodo; unde
Russell (sic), Walterus Bathell, et haer' Johannis
del Hay tenent totum de Germano le Hay, et Germanus
le Hay del Maulay. ' [Kirkby's Inquest, Wapentake of Harthill,
East Riding (p. 83)[3]]
' Petrus de la Haie ', held 1/2 carucate in Spaldington of Piers de
Mauley, and 2 1/2 carucates in Spaldington of the honour of Mowbray,
1302-03:
Spaldington:
' De feodo de Moubrai iiij car. terrae vij bov. di.
Osbertus de Spaldington tenet j car ij bov. di.,
Custancia de la Haie iiij bov., Philippus de la Haie
di. car., Petrus de la Haie residuum, - unde xviij
car. terrae faciunt feod.
De feodo de Mortuo Mari iij car. terrae j bov.
Rogerus de Spaldington tenet ij car. di. j bov.,
Osbertus de Spaldington di. car., - under xvj faciunt
feod.
De feodo de Malo Lacu ij car. et vj bov.
Petrus de la Haie tenet di. car., Osbertus de
Spaldington di. car., Johannes Malurer v bov., Johannes
filius Thomae vj bov., haeredes Walteri le Bacheler
iiij bov., - under xvj faciunt feod. ' [Knights' Fees in Yorkshire,
dated 1302-3, Kirkby's Inquest p. 252[3]]
reference to an interest in the manor of Streatlam, in comparison to
a separate case in Rot. Parl. 2 Edw. III:
' See also the interesting case of Peter de la Haye, in 1316 (Calendar
of Close Rolls, 1313-1318, p. 360). The king's interest ws involved
here, because the manor of Streatlam, which Peter sought to recover,
was a member of the seignory of Barnard Castle; and Barnard Castle,
owing to certain particular reasons, was at that time in the king's
hands (see above, $5, and cf. Surtees, Durham, iv. 100-101). '
Lapsley, p. 214[5]
' Peter de la Haye ', witness to enrollment dated at Westminster,
2 Feb 1326/7:
' Enrolment of grant by John son of John de Metham, knight (militis),
to Sir William de Ousthorp, clerk, of all his lands, rents, etc.,
in the town of Estrington. Witnesses: Sir Roger de Dayvill and Sir
Peer de Salso Marisco, knights; John de Caynel, Nicholas de
Portyngton, Peter de la Haye, Thomas de Cave of Hithe, John de
Greynayk, William de Bellasise, William de Warewyk. Dated at
London, 2 February 1326[-7].' [ CCR Edw III (1327-1330), 1
Edw III, p. 88, mem. 28d[6]]
order of King Edward III, dated at Westminster, 21 Dec 1330:
' To the treasurer and barons of the exchequer and to the
chamberlains. Peter de la Haye of Spaldyngton and Thomas Bachiler
of Spaldyngton, have shewn the king, by petition before him and
his council in parliament, that the king is indebted to them in
52s. 6d. for oats bought from them for his use, as appears by bills
of the wardrobe in their possession, and they have besought the
king to order payment thereof to them: the king therefore orders
the treasurer and barons and chamberlains to see the bills aforesaid,
and they are to cause it to be paid to them out of the treasury, or
to cause them to have an assignment thereof. '
[CCR Edw III (1330-1333), 4 Edw. III, mem. 10, p. 94[7]]
concerning Peter de la Hay, Farrer wrote:
' A later Peter de la Hay held land in Spaldington both of the
Mowbray and Mauley fees in 1302-03, as noted above. He was born
not later than 1272, as in the proof of age of John son and heir
of John of York made on 7 March 1331-2 he gave his own age as
sixty years and more, stating that John was born at Spaldington
in the house of Peter del Hay on 25 September 1310 and baptised
at Bubwith on the same day, John son of Peter del Hay lifting
him from the font; and this he knew as he had a daughter Margaret
born at Spaldington on 18 September of the same year. '
[EYC XII:88-89[1]; note (1) cites, ' Cal. Inq. p.m., vii, no. 485.']
will of Peter de la Hay, dated feast of St. Valentine, 14 Feb 1344/5
(proved 31 Oct 1347) [Test. Ebor. I:12-13[8]]
Spouse: Cecilia
Children: John (-<1393)
Elizabeth
Joan
Katherine
Thomas (->1379)
Margaret (1310-)
[ Part II of pedigree to follow ]
John P. Ravilious
Hello All,
Following is Part II of the detailed pedigree (the original post
was too large for Google's purposes, evidently).
The notes to the pedigree are to be found in the second post to
this thread (as Google has it currently arranged).
Cheers,
John
PART II:
1.1.2.1.1.1 John de la Hay
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Death: bef 31 Dec 1393[4]
' Johanne filio meo ', executor of his father's will, together
with his mother Cecilia and brother Thomas (will of Peter de la
Hay, dated feast of St. Valentine, 1345 (proved 31 Oct 1347)
[Test. Ebor. I:12-13[4]])
will of John de la Hay, of Spaldington, dated 23 June 1391, proved
31 Dec 1393 [Test. Ebor. I:155-6[4]]
Children: Isabel
1.1.2.1.1.2 Elizabeth de la Hay
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Occ: Prioress of Thickheved
nun, of Thickhed priory, 1345
Prioress of Thickhed, 6 May 1335
' Elizabethae filiae meae moniali in prioratissa de Thikhede ',
had bequest of 20s. in her father's will (will of Peter de la
Hay, dated feast of St. Valentine, 1345 (proved 31 Oct 1347)
[Test. Ebor. I:12-13[4]])
cf. Mon. Angl. IV:385[9]
Taylor, YAJ VIII:269, note (84)[10]
1.1.2.1.1.3 Joan de la Hay
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' Johannae filiae meae manenti in Swyn', had bequest of 6s. 8d.
in her father's will (will of Peter de la Hay, dated feast of
St. Valentine, 1345 (proved 31 Oct 1347) [Test. Ebor. I:12-13[4]])
1.1.2.1.1.4 Katherine de la Hay
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'Katerinae filiae meae', will of her father Peter de la Hay,
dated feast of St. Valentine, 1345 (proved 31 Oct 1347) [Test.
Ebor. I:12-13[4]])
1.1.2.1.1.5 Thomas de la Hay
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Death: aft 21 Dec 1379[11]
of Spaldington, East Riding, co.Yorks.
' Thoma filio meo ', executor of his father's will, together with
his mother Cecilia and brother John (will of Peter de la Hay, dated
feast of St. Valentine, 1345 (proved 31 Oct 1347) [Test. Ebor.
I:12-13[4]])
' 1365, Michaelmas - Fine between John Fitz William, knt., and
Elizabeth his wife, plaintiffs, and Thomas del Haye and Agnes his wife,
deforciants, of the fourth part of the manor of Darthynton [Darrington]
near Pontefract; to hold to John and Elizabeth and the heirs of John.
Warranty by Thomas and Agnes for themselves and the heirs of Agnes
.'[12]
' 1365-6, Hilary Term - Fine between Robert de Staynton, chivaler,
plaintiff, and Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington and Agnes his wife,
deforciant, of the manor of Skelbrooke and of 3 messuages, lands and
rent and ΒΌ of 5 messuages, lands and rent in Pontefract, Preston
[Purstan Jaglin], Ferrybridge, Stapleton, South Elmsall, Campsall,
[Kirk] Bramwith, Burgwallis, Skellow and Carcroft; to hold to Robert
for life, of Thomas and Agnes and the heirs of Agnes, paying yearly 10
marks to them, and doing service to the chief lords; reversion to
Thomas and Agnes and the heirs of Agnes . '[12]
he evidently d. after 21 Dec 1379 (date of a grant and quitclaim by
his son, in which he calls himself " Peter, son and heir of Thomas
de la Haye of Spaldington ") :
' Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington ', father of Peter, grant and
quitclaim dated 21 Dec 1379 [ A2A, Manchester University, John
Rylands Library: Phillips Charters - STAINTON-WITH-STREATLAM
(Co. Durham), PHC/254[11]]
Spouse: Agnes le Botiller
Death: aft 1365[12]
Father: John le Botiller (-<1347)
Mother: Joan de Sutton (-<1366)
Children: Peter (-<1431)
1.1.2.1.1.5.1a Peter de la Hay*
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Death: bef 11 Apr 1431[4]
of Spaldington, E. R., and Skelbrook, W.R., co.Yorks.[13]
lord of Skelbrook by 1378, during his father's lifetime:
' In the Poll Tax of 1378 24 taxpayers were enrolled, only one of
whom, Peter del Hay, serjeant, paid more than 4d. The charge on
him was 6s. 8d. ' [Holmes, Wapentake of Osgoldcross, YAJ XII:68[14]]
: Holmes cites YAJ VI:31, for 'Villata de Skelbrok ' :
" Petrus del Hay & Johanna vx ejus, Serigant.... dimid. marc. "
[YAJ VI:31[15]]
record dated 21 Dec 1379:
' Grant and quitclaim made before the Corporation of the city of
York, by Peter, son and heir of Thomas de la Haye of Spaldington,
to William de Bowes, of his rights on the manor of Streatlam and
Stainton. ' [Seals missing.] - A2A, Manchester University, John
Rylands Library: Phillips Charters - STAINTON-WITH-STREATLAM
(Co. Durham), PHC/254[11]
he evidently succeeded his father after December 1379.
'Petrus del Hay', held a manor called 'Faderlesfeld' (in the parish
of Newton cum Boldon, consisting of 46 acres, ca. 1382) of William
Gategang, who held of the Bishop of Durham, ca. 1377-1385:
' Petrus del Hay ten. j placeam, voc. Faderlesfeld, cont. xlvj acr.
terrae, quondam Willelmi Gategang, et red. p. a. 26s. 10d. '
[Surtees Soc. XXXII:98[16]]
' Peter de la Hay ', together with John Heliard and John Brun,
alienated in mortmain to the abbot and convent of Selby '
15 tofts, 12 1/2 acres of land and a moiety of one toft with
appurtenances in Selby ', evidenced by licence to Selby priory
dated at Westminster, 12 Oct 1397 [CPR 21 Ric. II (1396-1399), mem.
5, p. 219[17]]
' Peter de la Hay of Spaldyngton ', witness to a grant dated at
Saltmarsh, Saturday, the feast of St. Matthew the Apostle, 22
Richard II. (Sept. 21, 1398):
' Grant by Robert de Bolton, prebendary of the prebend of
Saltmersshe (in Howden Church), Henry del Sandes, chaplain,
William de Lodyngton, William Rosselyn, John de Wylbirfosse,
and William de Waldeby of Portyngton, to Elizabeth, daughter
of Thomas de Saltmersshe, of a yearly rent of four marks for
her life from the manors of Saltmersshe and Eppilleby in
Rychemondshire, and from lands etc., in the vills of Beverley,
South Cave, Blaketoft, Laxton, Skelton by Houedene, and Houeden,
which they had of the grant of Thomas, her father, payable half
yearly at Whitsuntide and Martinmas, on condition that if
Thomas, son of Thomas de Saltmersshe, should die without issue
the annuity was to cease. Power of distraint during the life
of the said Thomas, son of Thomas.
Witnesses, Thomas de Metham, knt., Gerard de Usflete, knt.,
Gerard Salvayn, knt., Peter de la Hay of Spaldyngton, Thomas
Dayville, Thomas de Portyngton, Nicholas de Bernhille. '
[YAS XXXIX:147, no. 408[18]]
' Peter del Hay of Spaldington, guardian of the heirs of Thomas
of Claxton ',
1221 1398-1403:
Hay, Peter del
Styled Peter del Hay of Spaldington, guardian of the heirs of
Thomas of Claxton
Description: Octagonal signet, an escallop shell.
Size: 13 mm.
Inscription: sig petri : d : hay :
5.4.Elemos.6; Misc.Ch. 6541*, 6542[19]
record of a grant to the prioress of Swine of lands in Skirlaw
and Thirkleby, 3 Hen IV (1401/2):
C 143/432/9
Walter, bishop of Durham, Richard Holme, clerk, and Peter del Haye
to grant messuages and land in South Skirlaugh and Thirtleby
(Thurkilby) to the prioress and convent of Swine, retaining
land in Bubwith and elsewhere. York.
3 HENRY IV. '[20]
from the account roll of the chantry of Bishop Walter Skirlaw
at Durham, dated between 1 Nov 1402 and 1 Nov 1403:
' Recept. Et de 40s. 4d. rec. de terris et tenementis in Wolueston
de terminis Martini et Pentecostes infra hunc compotum. Et de 50s.
rec. per manus Petri del Hay apud Aukland. Et de 10s. rec. de
terra in Monketon infra hunc compotum. ' [Surtees Soc. XCIX:lix[21]]
' Peter de la Hay, esquire ', executor [together with Thomas Weston
and Richard Holm, clerks] of the will of W., late bishop of Durham
[grant by the king's Council dated at Westminster, 30 June 1406
- CPR 7 Hen IV (1405-1408), mem. 15, p. 205[22]]
Commission of array to 'Peter de la Hay' [together with "Robert
Hilton,'chivaler', the elder, Peter de Bukton, 'chivaler',
Alexander Lounde, 'chivaler', John de Hothom, 'chivaler', John
de Pygot, 'chivaler', Alexander de Metham, 'chivaler', Peter de
la Hay, John de Neusom, Thomas Seyntquyntyn, Thomas Raventhorpe
and the sheriff] 'in the East Riding in the county of York', for
defence against the Scots, granted at Westminster, 5 July 1410
[CPR 11 Hen. IV (1408-1413[23]), mem. 24d, pp. 223-4]
' Commission de walliis et fossatis to Richard Norton, William
Lodyngton, Peter de la Hay, John Dronsfeld, John Elond, Robert
Barneby, William Shirewode, Thomas Saynpole and Nicholas de
Brayton from Little Smeton to the water of Donne in the county
of York. ' granted at Westminster, 10 July 1413 [CPR 1 Hen. V
(1413-1416), mem. 44d., p. 110[24]]
Commission of array for defence of the realm during the king's
absence in foreign parts to " Robert Hilton, 'chivaler', John
de Aske, Peter de la Hay, Robert Rustane and Guy de Roweclyf,
in the East Riding in the county of York.' dated at Westminster,
14 Oct 1417 [CPR Hen. V (1416-1422[23]), mem. 15d, p. 144]
Commission of array 'for defence of the realm while the king is
in foreign parts for the recovery of the inheritance and rights
of the crown' to " The earl of Northumberland, John Routhe,
'chivaler', John de Ask, Richard de Hayton, Robert de Rudstan,
Peter de la Hay, John Ellerker and the sheriff, in the East
Riding in the county of York. ' , dated at Westminster, 1 Apr
1418 [CPR 6 Hen. V (1416-1422[23]), mem. 31d, p. 196]
' A.D. 1423. - Peter de Hay of Spaldyng v. Richard, Prior of
Hautempryse [Haltemprice], 14 marks debt. ' [YAS XVII:83, No.
11, cites De Banco, East. 1 Hen. VI. m. 142[25]]
record of a power of attorney dated between Sept. 1423 and Sept.
1424 [2 Hen. VI]:
' Power of attorney by Peter de Hay, esq., John Carleton, clk.
and Thos. Sutton, to Robt. del Gare of York, and Wm. Wryght of
Dyke to deliver seisin of a messuage, 3 tofts and 26 acres in
Neweland by Estryngton to Ralf de Medilton, esq. of Lincolnshire
and Hugh de Medilton his son. Neweland, ____, 2 Hen. VI.
[ B. 133.] ' [Ellis, Yorkshire Deeds, p. 246[26]]
escheator in the county of York, 1425 [CPR 5 Hen VI (1422-1429),
mem. 14, p. 417[27]]
founded a chantry at St. Mary's York, 16 Apr 1426:
' 9. The Chaunterye at th'aulter of Seynt Cuthbert in the said
Church of Yorke.
William Garnett, incumbent. The same is of the fundacion
of Walter Skyrlowe, sometyme busshope of Durham, and Peter de
la Haye of Yorke, esquire, being bounde to saye masses and other
suffrages for the soules of the founders and all Crysten soules,
and to be in his habyte all principall and double feestes,
Sondayes and nyne lessons, at mattens, masse, evynsong, and
processions to helpe the mayntenance of the servyce of God,
and to rede lessons, begynne antems and to execute at the high
aulter, as is appoynted to hym by th'officers in the quyer, as
apperyth by fundacion dated the xvjth daye of Aprill, the yere
of our Lord God MCCCCXXVJ.
The same chaunterye is wythyn the metropolitane church of
York. The necessitie thereof is to helpe in executyng divine
servyce in the same churche. And the fundacion is observyd and
kept accordynglye. Ther is no landes solde sithens the iiijth
day of February anno regni Regis Henrici viiij'vi., xxvij'mo. '
[Surtees Soc. XCI:189-190, no. 52[28]]
will of Peter de la Hay, dated 8 Aug 1426 (proved 11 Apr 1431)
[Test. Ebor. II:11-12[29]])
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possible ancestor or relation (?):
' Pg 85 Inrollment of Charter of Sir Thomas Delahay of 38 ac waste
in Lindby, as overleaf ' - A2A, Nottinghamshire Archives: Savile
of Rufford: Deeds and Estate Papers [DD/SR/13 - DD/SR/205],
DD/SR/20/33[11]
Spouse: Joan [1st wife]
Marr: bef 1378
1.1.2.1.1.5.1b Peter de la Hay* (See above)
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Spouse: Elizabeth [2nd wife]
Death: bef 8 Aug 1426[29]
Children: Thomas (->1426)
Peter
Robert (-<1448)
Elizabeth
1.1.2.1.1.5.1b.1 Thomas de la Hay[13]
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Death: aft 1 Jul 1426, d.v.p.[29]
of Spaldington, East Riding, co.Yorks.
a beneficiary of the will of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham,
dated 7 Mar 1403/4:
' Thoma et Petro filiis Petri del Hay,... ' [Test. Ebor. I:313[4]]
in re: the will of his father, the editor of Testamenta Eboracensia
wrote,
' (Sir) Thomas De la Hay, the eldest son of the testator, married
a daughter of Sir William Babthorpe of Babthorpe, by whom he left
five daughters and coheirs, who carried the representation of his
house into the families of Vavasour, Hildyard, Knight, and Thwaites.
From the date of his own will, and the absence of his name in the
present document, he probably had died just before the date of
his father's will. By his will, dated July 1, 1426, in which he
calls himself Thomas del Hay, son of Peter del Hay de Spaldyngton,
he directs his body to be buried in the conventual church of
Ellerton, near Elizabeth his mother. He mentions his brother
Robert del Hay, and Joan his own wife, and his children. '
[Test. Ebor. II:11, note[29]]
evidently d.v.p. before 8 Aug 1426 [Test. Ebor. II:11-12[29]]
GENEALOGICS I00198971[30]
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concerning the family of Thomas de la Hay, Douglas Richardson
provided the following extract:
"Deed whereby Robert Hilyerd knight, son and heir of Katerine one of
the daughters and heirs of Thomas de la Haye, esquire, Elezabeth
Knyght, widow, the third of the daughters and heirs of Thomas, and
Alice Thwaytes widow, fourth daughter and heir of Thomas, release and
quit-claim to John Vavasour junior, serjeant-at-law, and his heirs, all
their right in the manor of Spaldyngton and Willytofte, and 20 acres of
land in Holme. Habendum to releases in fee, with warranty. Last day
of August, 21 Edward IV. (1481)." [The Proceedings of the Society of
Antiquaries 2nd ser. 4 (1869): 79]. [31]
Spouse: Joan Babthorpe
Death: aft 6 Oct 1433[4]
Father: Sir William (or Ralph) Babthorpe
Mother: [possibly] Maud Hildyard
Children: Isabel (-<1481), m. John le Vavasour
Katherine (-<1481), m. Robert Hildyard
Elizabeth, m. John Knyght
Alice (-1485), m. Thomas Thwaites
Dorothy, nun
1.1.2.1.1.5.1b.2 Peter de la Hay
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a beneficiary of the will of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of Durham, dated
7 Mar 1403/4:
' Thoma et Petro filiis Petri del Hay,... ' [Test. Ebor. I:313[4]]'
[Test. Ebor. I:313[4]]
1.1.2.1.1.5.1b.3 Robert de la Hay
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Death: bef 8 Jan 1448[29]
rector of Brantingham, co. Yorks.
'Robertum del Hay filium meum', beneficiary and executor of the
will of his father Peter de la Hay, dated 8 Aug 1426 (proved 11
Apr 1431) [Test. Ebor. II:11-12[29]])
named in the will of his brother Thomas [Test. Ebor. II:11, note[29]]
cf. Test. Ebor.II:11, notes[29]
1.1.2.1.1.5.1b.4 Elizabeth de la Hay
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' Elizabeth (1st wife), daughter of Sir Peter de la Hay, Knt. '
[Foster I: pedigree of Wortley of Wortley[32]]
evidently a beneficiary of the will of Walter Skirlaw, Bishop of
Durham, dated 7 Mar 1403/4:
' Item Elizabethae del Hay unam ollam argenti et unum ciphum
deauratum. ' [Test. Ebor. I:313[4]]
Spouse: John Wortley, of Wortley
Children: Sir Nicholas Wortley, of Wortley
1.1.2.1.1.5.1c Peter de la Hay* (See above)
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Spouse: Elizabeth Woodruff [3rd wife]
Death: bef 3 Aug 1434[29]
Marr: bef 8 Aug 1426[29]
1.1.2.1.1.6 Margaret de la Hay
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Birth: 18 Sep 1310, Spaldington, co. Yorks.[1]
1.1.2.1.2 John de la Hay
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' John son of Peter del Hay ', godfather of John of York who
" was born at Spaldington in the house of Peter del Hay on
25 September 1310 and baptised at Bubwith on the same day,
John son of Peter del Hay lifting him from the font "
[EYC XII:88-89[1]; note (1) cites, ' Cal. Inq. p.m., vii, no. 485.']
1.1.2.1.3 James de la Hay
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clerk
record dated at Avignon, 7 Kal. April [27 March] 1317:
" To James called 'Hay', of Spaldington, of the diocese of
York. Reservation of a benefice in that of Lincoln, value
50 marks. " [Papal Letters II:146[33]]
[see notes in followup post]
* John P. Ravilious
WJho...@aol.com
<< Children: John (-<1393)
Elizabeth
Joan
Katherine
Thomas (->1379)
Margaret (1310-) >>
Also the above John de la Haye should be marked as "Born Before 1304" at
least since in 1310 he "lifted [a baby] from the font" a baptismal font. I have
no idea how old you'd have to be to do this, but at least say .... seven ?
Will Johnson
The...@aol.com
Dear Will,
Actually, the John de la Haye in question ([1.1.2.1.2, the
godfather of John of York) was the son of John, and uncle of
the John (1.1.2.1.1.1, son of Peter who d. 1347 or before) you
mentioned.
For ease (or easier ease) of reference, I have replicated
the (corrected) skeleton pedigree below, and put the reference
numbers from the detailed pedigree in place to illustrate.
Cheers,
John
Ralph de la Haye
of Spaldington (fl. 1182)
I
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I I
Richard Philip
fl. ca. 1185-1200
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I I
Philip = Agnes le Sir Peter
(dvp ?) Constable d. aft 12 May 1254
I
I
John
d. before 1285
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I I I
Peter = Cecilia John James
b. bef 7 May 1271/2 I fl. 1310 clerk
d. bef 31 Oct 1347 I 1.1.2.1.2 fl. 1317
1.1.2.1.1 I 1.1.2.1.3
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I I I I I I
John Elizabeth Joan Katherine I Thomas = Agnes
d. 1393 prioress __________I d. aft I le
1.1.2.1.1.1 of Thickhed I 21 Dec I Botiller
I Margaret 1379 I
Isabel I
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I
1) Joan = Peter = 2) Elizabeth
3) Elizabeth d. bef I
Woodruff 11 Apr I
1431 I
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I I I I
Thomas Peter Robert Elizabeth
dvp aft 1 Jul 1426 = John Wortley
= Joan Babthorpe of Wortley
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WJho...@aol.com
<< Actually, the John de la Haye in question ([1.1.2.1.2, the
godfather of John of York) was the son of John, and uncle of
the John (1.1.2.1.1.1, son of Peter who d. 1347 or before) you
mentioned. >>
If John the godfather, was the "son of John" then why in your quote does it
say "John son of Peter del Hay lifting him from the font;"
John son of Peter lifted him.... not John son of John. Right? or wrong? I'm
quoting what you sent.
Will
The...@aol.com
Chronologically, I like my version better, but if you want to be
particular and stick with the document, well,......
' John son of Peter ' [and no. 1.1.2.1.1.1.] it is. Now, whether 1304
or earlier is the best date to use, I am not certain, but this clearly makes
John rather well aged when he wrote his will [23 June 1391]. The only actual
date we have for a sibling of his is for his sister Margaret, stated by their
father Peter as being born at Spaldington on 18 Sept 1310.
Thanks for the catch.
Cheers,
John