Wife of Sir Ralph Hastings.

[John Steele Gordon]

Faris, p. 136, gives Anne Tattershall as the wife of Sir Ralph Hastings
and mother of their daughter Florence, who married Edmund Grey, 9th Lord
Grey of Wilton. His source is Stemmata Chicheleana of 1765, p. 31.

Wedgwood, p. 433, says of Sir Ralph (who served in Parliament as M.P.
from Northamptonshire, 1472-75), that he "M. by 1463 Amy, presumably a
Vaux of Harrowden, N"hants." His source is Geneal. N.S. xxi 71.

Further, he says that his will, dated Sep 17 and probated Dec 1 1495
named "Amy his wife residuary legatee and exix." His source for this is
P.C.C. 27 vox.

Can any one settle this discrepancy? Jane Haviland, whose two sons
immigrated to Massachusetts with her widower in 1640, was a 5th
generation descendant of Florence Hastings and Lord Grey of Wilton. I am
an eleventh generation descendant of Jane Haviland.

John Steele Gordon

[Dcrdcr4]

Amy, wife of Sir Ralph Hastings, was the daughter and co-heiress of John
Tattershall, of Wanstead, Essex, and of Kent, by his wife, Agnes Chichele.
Agnes Chichele is "Founder's Kin."

Proof of Amy's parentage may be found in Early Chancery Proceedings, where you
may find a suit filed by Amy's five daughters and co-heiresses and her sister,
Margery, they being heirs of John Tattershall. Also please see the Victoria
County History of Essex which shows that Amy was heiress of Wanstead, Essex.
If you need the specific page citations for these sources, I can provide them
later if you need them. The Tattershall arms are given in the Visitation of
Kent published by the Harleian Society under the Roper pedigree.

For the new Plantagenet ancestry of Sir Ralph Hastings, please see the 2nd
edition of Plantaganet Ancestry by David Faris scheduled to be published about
April by Genealogical Publishing Company of Baltimore. For Sir Ralph's Magna
Carta Ancestry, see David Faris and my new book, Magna Carta Ancestry, also
scheduled for publication about April by GPC.

I hope this helps. All for now. Douglas Richardson

[DavidBotts]

Hi John:

I just show Jane Haviland died before February 04, 1670/71. Your post makes
her dead by 1640. Is my understanding of your post correct and would you have
the death date?

Thanks,

Dave Botts

[John Steele Gordon]

DavidBotts wrote:

> I just show Jane Haviland died before February 04, 1670/71.

That date come from the fact that her brother, the Reverend Matthew Haviland,
referred in his will, which was proved on Feb 4, 1670/1, to his sister "Jane,
late Wife of William Torry, Gent., of New Ingland." (See Faris, p. 137).

> Your post makes
> her dead by 1640. Is my understanding of your post correct and would you have
> the death date?

She did not come to Massachusetts with him and their two infant sons in 1640, so
she must have been dead at that point. To be sure, many an American immigrant
left behind a living wife in England. My Maryland ancestor Col. Charles Hutchins
did exactly that, and married bigamously once he got here. Wife number one, I'm
happy to say, successfully sued his estate thirty years later. But absconding
husbands would hardly have brought infant children with them.

I have a notation that Jane Haviland died before Apr 27, 1639, but, I'm
embarrassed to say, I haven't the faintest where it might have come from. Perhaps
Frederic Torrey's The Torrey Families in America (1924), which is hard to get hold
of as only 500 copies were printed.

John Steele Gordon