A dumb question about Sex, King Herod, and Settipani

[Curt Nilsen]

Greetings News Group,

Back in June 2002, Kelsey J. Williams posted a theoretical Plantagenet
descent from the Kings of Judea based on Christian Settipani's latest
book.

I had question. Perhaps a dumb question. Is there someone who can
tell me what gender these people are. Some are easy (i.e if they are
labled King, bishop, daughter, etc.). Unfortunately, I don't have any
idea of entries 6-19 (see list below).

Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks

Curt Nilsen

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1. Herod I the Great, King of Judea. b. c73 B.C. d. 4 B.C. m. to
Mariamne, dau. of Alexander (son of Aristobulus, King of Judea) &
Alexandra (dau. of Hyrcanus II, High Priest of the Jews). (George
Wissowa [ed.], Pauly's Realencyclopadie der Classischen
Altertumswissenschaft, Supplementary Vol. 2 [Stuttgart, 1913], chart
bet. pp. 15-16).

2. Aristobulos. d. 7 B.C. m. to Berenike, dau. of Kostobar & Salome
(d. c A.D. 10), dau. of Antipatros & sister of Herod. (ibid.).

3. Herod, King of Chalkis. d. A.D. 48. m. to Berenike (b. A.D. 29),
dau. of Agrippa I, King of Judea (brother of Herod of Chalkis), &
Kypros, dau. of Phasael (nephew of Herod) & Salampsio. (ibid.).

4. (Iulia). b. say A.D. 45. m. to C. Iulius Tigranes (V), King of
Armenia (d. aft. A.D. 62). (ibid.; Christian Settipani, Continuité
gentilice et continuité familiale dans les familles sénatoriales
romaines: mythe et réalité [2000], p. 456).

5. C. Iulius Alexander, King in Cilicia. d. aft. c105. m. to Iotape,
dau. of Antiochos IV, King of Commagne & Iotape. (Pauly-Wissowa;
Settipani, pp. 448, 458).

6. (Iulia). m. to C. Iulius Quadratus Bassus, suf. 105, leg. Dacia
117. d. 117. (Settipani, p. 458).

7. (Iulia Quadratilla). m. to C. Iulius Lupus T. Vibius Varus
Laevillus, quaest As. 132. (ibid., p. 458).

8. (A. Iulis). (ibid., p. 458).

9. (Iulia Qaudratilla). m. to (C. Asinius Nicomachus). (ibid., p.
189).

10. C. Asinius Protimus Quadratus, suf. c.200, procos. Ach. c211. d.
aft. 235. (ibid., p. 189).

11. C. Asinius Nicomachus Iulianus, suf. c215/20, procos. As. c230.
(ibid., p. 189),

12. (Asinia Iuliana). m. to (Anicius Faustus). (ibid., p. 432).

13. Anicius Faustus, consul 298. d. aft. 300. m. to (Amnia)
Demetrias. (ibid.,
p. 432).

14. Amnius Anicius Iulianus, consul 322. d. aft. 329. m. to (Caesonia
Manilia). (ibid., p. 432).

15. Amnius Manius Caesonius Nicomachus Anicius Paulinus, consil 334.
m. to (Auchenia Bassa). (ibid., p. 432).

16. Anicius Auchenius Bassus. d. aft. 385. m. to Turrania Honorata.
(ibid., p. 432).

17. Turrania Anicia Iuliana. m. to Q. Clodius Hermogenianus Olybrius,
consul 379. (ibid., p. 432).

18. (Anicia). m. to Pontius. (Christian Settipani, Les Ancestres de
Charlemagne [Paris: Editions Christian, 1989], p. 172).

19. Adelphius or Hermogenianus. (ibid., p. 172).

20. Ruricius, Bishop of Limoges, c.485-507. A descendant of the
Anicii. (ibid., p. 172).

21. (dau.). m. to Rusticius, Bishop of Lyons, 494-501. (ibid., p.
127).

22. Artemia. m. to Florentinus, Bishop of Geneva, 513. (ibid., p.
111).

23. (dau.). m. to Munderic, pretender to the Austrasian throne, c.532.
(ibid., pp. 95-96).

24. Mummolin, poss. Mayor of the Palace of Neustria, 566. m. to the
sister of Aunulf, Duke of Angouleme. (ibid., pp. 79-80).

25. Bodogisel, ambassador to Byzantium, 589. m. to Chrodoare (St.
Oda), abbess of Amay, aft. 589-bef. 634. (ibid., pp. 63-65).

26. Saint Arnulf, Bishop of Metz, 614-629. m. to Doda. (ibid., pp.
43-48).

27. Ansegisel, fl. 648. m. to Begga, Abbess of Andenne, who d. 693.
(ibid., pp. 31-33).

28. Pepin of Herstal, Mayor of the Palace, 688/90-714. m. to Alpaide.
(ibid., pp. 22-25).

29. Charles Martel, Duke of the Franks, 717-741. m. to Rotrude.
(ibid., pp. 18-20).

30. Pepin the Short, King of the Franks, 751-768. m. to Bertha of
Laon. (ibid., pp. 15-17).

31. Carolus Magnus (Charlemagne), King of the Franks, Emperor of the
West. b. 2 Apr 748. d. 28 Jan 814 at the palace of Aix-la-Chapelle.
m. to bef. 30 Apr 771 to Hildegardis, dau. of Gerold I, Count in
Vinzgau & Imma, dau. of the german Duke Hnabi. (Christian Settipani,
La Prehistoire des Capetiens, 481-987, Premiere Partie [Villeneuve
d'Ascq, 1993], p. 191-204).

[norenxaq]

Curt Nilsen wrote:

> Greetings News Group,
>
> Back in June 2002, Kelsey J. Williams posted a theoretical Plantagenet
> descent from the Kings of Judea based on Christian Settipani's latest
> book.
>
> I had question. Perhaps a dumb question. Is there someone who can
> tell me what gender these people are. Some are easy (i.e if they are
> labled King, bishop, daughter, etc.). Unfortunately, I don't have any
> idea of entries 6-19 (see list below).

people 6-19 are roman. words in latin that end in "a" are feminine, so
6,7, 9, 12, 17, and 18 are women. the others you are asking about are men

[wjho...@aol.com]

Iulia (Julia) is a female
The male for would be Iulius (Julius)

Will Johnson

[wjho...@aol.com]

Quadratilla is a female the male form would be something like Quadratus.
Asinia Juliana is a female
Asinius Julianus is a male
Anicius Faustus is a male
Amnius Anicius is a male
Turania Anicia is a female

basically here we see that anything "a" is a female and anything "us" is a male

Will Johnson

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Subject: A dumb question about Sex, King Herod, and Settipani

[Curt Nilsen]

Greetings Will and norenxaq,

Thanks for your prompt & useful replies!

Curt