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John Danvers of Waterstoke
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Joema...@aol.com
May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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Hi, Could anyone tell me if John Danvers of Waterstoke (d. 30 Oct. 1508/09),
was the son of William Danvers, (b. abt. 1432) of Cothrop, Oxfordshire, and
his wife, Ann Pury, (b. abt. 1434) of Chamberhouse, Thatcham, Berkshire?
Thank you very much for your help!
was the son of William Danvers, (b. abt. 1432) of Cothrop, Oxfordshire, and
his wife, Ann Pury, (b. abt. 1434) of Chamberhouse, Thatcham, Berkshire?
Thank you very much for your help!
I want to thank everyone in this group that has given me information on my
ancestors and the books that I have requested information on.
Joan
G . EDWARD ALLEN
May 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/26/99
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Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica 1:324 etseq., "Extracts from
Aske's Collections : Pedigree oef Danvers, etc. gives:
Aske's Collections : Pedigree oef Danvers, etc. gives:
1. John = Anne Hampden.
2. Sir William Danvers, King's Justice of Common Pleas.
3. Anne Pury of Chamberhouse by Reading.
4. John Danvers of Cothorpe.
5. Jane Bruley.
6. William Pury.
So the answer is yes.
Kay Allen AG
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Jun 29, 2020, 10:02:18 AM6/29/20
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On Wednesday, May 26, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, G . EDWARD ALLEN wrote:
> Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica 1:324 etseq., "Extracts from
> Aske's Collections : Pedigree oef Danvers, etc. gives:
>
> 1. John = Anne Hampden.
> 2. Sir William Danvers, King's Justice of Common Pleas.
> 3. Anne Pury of Chamberhouse by Reading.
> 4. John Danvers of Cothorpe.
> 5. Jane Bruley.
> 6. William Pury.
>
> So the answer is yes.
>
> Kay Allen AG
I believe Kay Allen was interested in these Pury and Danvers lines because they descend to Langston of Caversfield (mentioned in another post) and thence to Alice (Freeman) (Thomson) Parke of Connecticut.
> Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica 1:324 etseq., "Extracts from
> Aske's Collections : Pedigree oef Danvers, etc. gives:
>
> 1. John = Anne Hampden.
> 2. Sir William Danvers, King's Justice of Common Pleas.
> 3. Anne Pury of Chamberhouse by Reading.
> 4. John Danvers of Cothorpe.
> 5. Jane Bruley.
> 6. William Pury.
>
> So the answer is yes.
>
> Kay Allen AG
An extension to the ancestry of William Pury, no. 6 in Kay's list, is found in the Visitations of Berkshire, where he is called, however, John Pury.
7. (2nd wife of JOHN Pury, mother of Anne Pury Danvers) Isabel Wawne of Beverley
12. Thomas Pury, servant to King Henry IV
13. Maud Atmore
26. Will Atmore of Cookham (? Braye in the Wold)
52. John Atmore
104. Nicholas Atmore of Bray
208. John Atmore of Bray in the Wold
See pp. 53-54 of Rylands, ed., _Four Visitations of Berkshire_, vol. 2 ("Additional Pedigrees and Notes"):
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/C370ehj1TVYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22thomas+denton%22+webb&pg=PA116&printsec=frontcover
Possibly contains some good clues, though seemingly no royal descents.
John Higgins
Jun 29, 2020, 1:32:27 PM6/29/20
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https://books.google.com/books?id=f6wKAAAAYAAJ&q=pury#v=onepage&q=pury%20atmore&f=false
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Jun 29, 2020, 3:31:14 PM6/29/20
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wjhonson
Jun 29, 2020, 10:57:01 PM6/29/20
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This appears the be the same people fighting amongst themselves
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7447850
Reference: C 1/53/254
Description:
Short title: Pury v The abbot of Reading.
Plaintiffs: John Pury, esquire, and Isabel, his wife, William Danvers and Anne, his wife, daughter of the said John and Isabel.
Defendants: John, abbot of Reading.
Subject: Land in Reading, Thatcham, and Crokeham, and assize of novel disseisin concerning the same. Berkshire
Date: 1475-1480, or 1483-1485
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7447850
Reference: C 1/53/254
Description:
Short title: Pury v The abbot of Reading.
Plaintiffs: John Pury, esquire, and Isabel, his wife, William Danvers and Anne, his wife, daughter of the said John and Isabel.
Defendants: John, abbot of Reading.
Subject: Land in Reading, Thatcham, and Crokeham, and assize of novel disseisin concerning the same. Berkshire
Date: 1475-1480, or 1483-1485
wjhonson
Jun 29, 2020, 11:01:05 PM6/29/20
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Reference: E 210/4521
Description:
John Pury, esquire, kinsman and heir of John atte More to Roger Norys and Richard Bulstrode: Grant, indented, of lands etc., in Bray: Berks.
Date: 28 Hen.VI.
Description:
John Pury, esquire, kinsman and heir of John atte More to Roger Norys and Richard Bulstrode: Grant, indented, of lands etc., in Bray: Berks.
Date: 28 Hen.VI.
wjhonson
Jun 29, 2020, 11:02:37 PM6/29/20
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Rather than his great-grandfather, I suggest that this John atte More was likely to be John Pury's maternal uncle
wjhonson
Jun 29, 2020, 11:05:55 PM6/29/20
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Reference: D/EZ 77/2/3
Title: Order by Henry Beauford, Cardinal of England [Henry Beaufort, Cardinal and Bishop of Worcester], Cardinal John Kempe, Archbishop of York, William de la Pole, earl of Suffolk, William, lord Lovell, John Lisle, knight, George Lisle, Thomas Bullok, Thomas Litterford and Robert Bullok, to their attorneys, John Gwardeby, William Vachell, William Bacon, John Bampton, esquire, Thomas Gerveys and John Bacon, to give seisin of the manor of Chambrehouse, lands called Chambrehouse, Walleweyneslond, Crokeleggeslond, Mondielietteslond, Wigmore, Drewescrofte and Kechyncrofte, and a watermill called Thornefordesmylle, in the parishes (sic) of Thatcham and Crookham, cos. Berks and Hants, to John Pury and his wife Isabella.
Description:
Dated on the vigil of the feast of SS Simon and Jude 21 Henry VI [7 October 1442].
Seals of each of the grantors, identified on the tags.
Date: 1442
Title: Order by Henry Beauford, Cardinal of England [Henry Beaufort, Cardinal and Bishop of Worcester], Cardinal John Kempe, Archbishop of York, William de la Pole, earl of Suffolk, William, lord Lovell, John Lisle, knight, George Lisle, Thomas Bullok, Thomas Litterford and Robert Bullok, to their attorneys, John Gwardeby, William Vachell, William Bacon, John Bampton, esquire, Thomas Gerveys and John Bacon, to give seisin of the manor of Chambrehouse, lands called Chambrehouse, Walleweyneslond, Crokeleggeslond, Mondielietteslond, Wigmore, Drewescrofte and Kechyncrofte, and a watermill called Thornefordesmylle, in the parishes (sic) of Thatcham and Crookham, cos. Berks and Hants, to John Pury and his wife Isabella.
Description:
Dated on the vigil of the feast of SS Simon and Jude 21 Henry VI [7 October 1442].
Seals of each of the grantors, identified on the tags.
Date: 1442
wjhonson
Jun 30, 2020, 11:19:39 AM6/30/20
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I just realized how suspicious it is that John Pury's second wife is called "Wawne" and one of the lands to which he was given seisin here is called "Walleweyneslond""
ravinma...@yahoo.com
Jun 30, 2020, 1:07:23 PM6/30/20
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On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 11:19:39 AM UTC-4, wjhonson wrote:
> I just realized how suspicious it is that John Pury's second wife is called "Wawne" and one of the lands to which he was given seisin here is called "Walleweyneslond""
Maybe someone had a mouth full of mush ...
> I just realized how suspicious it is that John Pury's second wife is called "Wawne" and one of the lands to which he was given seisin here is called "Walleweyneslond""
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